Re[2]: Bounce Mail

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Simon-

Tuesday, December 3, 2002, 6:53:24 PM, you wrote:

S> There's  no  need  to  be  so sarcastic :-/ If you have an opinion about it,
S> fine,  but I didn't design Mailwasher, I use it, and as far as I know no one

Ah, but you did tout the "feature" and recommend its incorporation
into TB, which renders me properly aghast.

S> has  ever complained about the way it bounces messages, until now. I suspect
S> that  Mailwasher's  apparent  popularity and success would have been quickly
S> arrested if the methods it employs to bounce mail were rejected/frowned upon
S> by  ISPs...I'd  have  expected some noise on the Net by now if that were the
S> case!

Well, I, for one, wasn't aware that Mailwasher could get away with
pulling off this dastardly deed. I wonder what
postmaster@say,for_example,earthlink.net would have to say about it?
Are you suggesting that there is a way to prevent Mailwasher from
doing this?

...besides, if I couldn't be sarcastic here I'd have to find another
list to hang out in...

-Mark Wieder

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Re[2]: Bounce Mail

2002-12-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Simon-

Tuesday, December 3, 2002, 2:35:17 PM, you wrote:

>> How  does  MailWasher  bounce messages? A. MailWasher uses an algorithm to
>> determine the best route to send the bounced message back (from, reply to,
>> return path) and actually sends the bounce back via your ISP's postmaster,
>> so  it  looks  exactly  like it has come from your ISP and not from you at
>> your  address.  If  the  spammer has used a fake address, then your bounce
>> message  will  itself  be  bounced  back  to  the postmaster and you won't
>> receive the bounced bounce email.

S> ...I  suspect  that  the nice folk at RITLABS wouldn't find it too difficult
S> either 

S> In  fact,  I  added  this  as  a  feature  request  to  be added to the Mail
S> 'Dispatcher', among others :)


Great.

So I, as postmaster, would be receiving bounce messages from users who
have been spoofing my return address and routing? That'll get them
kicked off the system as fast as I can dig up my logs.

Obviously you looked up "feature" in a different dictionary from the
one I use.

-Mark Wieder

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Re[2]: Bounce Mail

2002-12-03 Thread Mean Drake

Tuesday, December 3, 2002, 11:41:28 PM, you wrote:

> * Mean Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> One feature I would like is to have TB bounce my mail.

> Why?

It sometimes helps to have your email removed from spam lists. I agree
a lot of addresses from where spam originates are fake but from what
sppam I receive, a majority of the addresses are genuine. I don't to
mail in unsubscribe-me mails and a bounce is usually good enough to
delete you from their database. What is lost anyway. I used to do it
using Mailwasher but it is a pain to open one program, review the
headers and bounce or delete mails and then open the default email
client and receive the rest of it.



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