Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-08 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 5:26:09 AM, you wrote:

 (including sending mails to the wrong recipient -
 let's forbid this too!)

Ten points! I want that - now!

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Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Thomas,

On Monday, May 07, 2001 11:26:09 [ +0800 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Edit received messages':

Thomas I often want to edit the subject line, because I keep getting messages
Thomas from airfreight offices saying new airfreight shipment. Well, if it
Thomas weren't about an airfreight shipment, why would the airfreight office
Thomas send me an email anyway? (It's filtered into the airfreight folder, so
Thomas I know before I open the message, even before I open the folder, that
Thomas there is a message about an airfreight shipment). 10 emails with the
Thomas same subject don't help: so I want to change the subject to shipper
Thomas name / consignee name, and in some cases add the order number or
Thomas shipment number. This is my major reason.

  Without arguing the merits of editing received msgs, I have a
  similar situation  this is how I work around it.

  I have a tech notes folder  I put tech email notes from many
  programs in there. For each entry I add a memo  I insert a
  short description starting with program - problem - solution on
  one line. Then I add memos to folder columns  sort on it so all
  program problems are grouped together.

  I'm sure you've thought of this but I thought I'd mention it
  anyway.

Thomas Also, people tend to fullquote in the business world, and I don't want
Thomas to keep all 14K of the message. So I want to cut off the garbage.

  Obviously I live w this part of the problem.

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Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Sunday, May 06, 2001, 11:25:17 AM, Thomas wrote:

ASH I'm doing some Spring Cleaning in my mailboxes and was
ASH wondering if there is a simple way to edit received messages.

 No; many people think it would be unethical to edit received messages.
 Since a workaround is available (the one you are using), I don't quite
 see the point either. ;-)


I  can't  imagine  what  the fact many people think it is unethical to
edit  received  messages  would  have  to  do  with making this useful
feature  available to the rest of us, who find it useful to be able to
annotate  messages,  or archive less than entire messages or highlight
some  particular  portion of a message (it would be nice to be able to
put part of a message in italics, or in another color, or another type
size  or  another  font,  bu  the  way) or edit for some other reason.
People  who  don't  think  that is ethical don't need to do it, but it
should be possible.



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Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-07 Thread George F Schoelles

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Hello Thomas,

Sunday, May 06, 2001, 9:25:17 AM, you wrote:

T No; many people think it would be unethical to edit received messages.
T Since a workaround is available (the one you are using), I don't quite
T see the point either. ;-)

That is dumb!  Who owns the disk that the saved messages is on?  The
sender or TheBat client owner.

For that matter, TheBat is the only client I have used that doesn't
allow this including Microsoft products.  And when does a
work-around  make it right.  Kind of like pushing the car up hill
when the engine isn't strong enough and then saying it runs like
new.

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Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Monday, May 07, 2001, 12:04:19 PM, Peter Meyns wrote:

 I think that's not the point. Of course everyone can store their
 messages the way they want. The unethical thing IMHO would be, when
 the message would appear as sent this way by the author. So I find
 it absolutely correct, that TB! does offer a way to store edited
 messages as described by Karin and Marck before, including changes
 of the header info. In case you need the original header for
 whatever, you can save it in a text file before editing the msg.


So, who appointed TheBat! watchdog of ethics? If someone wants to
forge messages they can find a way to do it. Software should not be
designed so that all users are hobbled so that some person who wants
to be a bad actor will have to use some other software or also be
inconvenienced.

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Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Monday, May 07, 2001, 12:14:16 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 your formatting needs remind me of another way: Export messages as
 text file and use a word processor.

At least part of the point of doing the editing/annotating in the
original message is to be able to find it in the thread
  ^

this is why the header changing workarounds aren't satisfactory
either.

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Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-07 Thread Anne-Sophie Hombert

Hello Marck,

Monday, May 07, 2001, 20:45:01, you wrote:

MDP Annotating messages is covered by the Memo function of TB. Editing
MDP is a separate issue.

I did not know about the memo function. Useful too ... I'm learning
something new every day with TB!

MDP Where's the problem? TB may not do received message editing it like
MDP you may be used to or have seen elsewhere, but you certainly can't do
MDP it /by mistake/. That's a Good Thing (tm) in my books :-).

I totally agree with you on this. It's fine the way it is. Thanks for
your help. I was getting afraid we were plunging into a controversial
thread.


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Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-07 Thread George Schoelles

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