Re: Plain Text Windows - Clickable URLs (Was Re[2]: Error message from Help screen)
Hello Urban and y'all, Sorry to follow on myself, but... M> The issue seemed to be my typing in or cutpasting a link where M> moving the cursor over it did not show it as a live link, M> For this email I have changed to the Plain Text editor (Windows M> proportional). M> Here is a typed-in address: M> http://www.swan.ac.uk/classics/staff/ter/grst/big.htm M> Here is a copy and pasted address: M> http://anzwers.org/free/universe/ M> On my screen these links do not show as live/clickable. As I M> mentioned, the Message Format is Plain Text Windows. I can see when reading my own message sent to the list that the links are indeed clickable. So, go figure. I received email from a correspondent that said the links were not clickable, I cannot see that they are clickable when I am creating the message, and yet they show perfectly normal when reading the list... Doo-dah--doo-dah-doo-dah --- twilight zone. -- Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Plain Text Windows - Clickable URLs (Was Re[2]: Error message from Help screen)
Hello Urban, I've tried to rename the subject to reflect the evolution of the thread. :) Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 1:44:08 PM, Urban wrote: U> In a plain text message the links just "are", there's no need U> to indicate that it's a link. In HTML, on the other hand, you have to U> say that what you mean to be a link really is a link. >> That's where my unclickable links were showing. I 'spoke' to Allie >> about this and he was not seeing the same thing I was reporting about >> this. U> Your link showed fine here, and the only way I could manage to make it U> unshowable was to use the HTML-editor and send a non-linked URL. So I am U> as baffled as anyone else as to the reason why it acts as it does. I have decided to continue to use the old reliable MicroEd. >> I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the text the >> way I created it, wrapping to the window instead. U> Maybe it's a wrapping thing. Have you tried to shorten it trough U> something like http://www.makeashorterlink.com ? No. I didn't mean needing to shorten the link. The wrapping I meant was that of the lines of text. They are wrapped to the window in html pages so if you resize the window the text fills the available space. Shortening the link was not the problem for me (this time, anyway!) but thank you for that web page. 8-) The issue seemed to be my typing in or cutpasting a link where moving the cursor over it did not show it as a live link, athough it began with the http... nor did it show as blue which color links are in my defaults. For this email I have changed to the Plain Text editor (Windows proportional). I am going to type an address for the first example, then paste a copied address to show you what I mean. Here is a typed-in address: http://www.swan.ac.uk/classics/staff/ter/grst/big.htm Here is a copy and pasted address: http://anzwers.org/free/universe/ On my screen these links do not show as live/clickable. As I mentioned, the Message Format is Plain Text Windows. If I were in the HTML Editor I would have copied the link, then pasted it into the Add Hyperlink button on the toolbar or simply typed it in to the special window Fm_UrlLink (what an interesting name, what could it mean?) There is no button bar in Plain Text Windows. Under the Edit Mail Message window, in the Edit dropdown, they maybe could put in a Paste As Hyperlink... So the unsolved question of how do I make the links clickable, is one reason I'm back to MicroEd. The other reason is the textwrapping Allie told me about. It would be great to see some discussion in The Bat! Help about the 'consequences' (for lack of a better word seniormoment) of using the different settings in the Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer and perhaps even some hints for the untutored about not using the html editor when sending messages to mailing lists. This original thread talked about the Help error message. If RitLabs is still updating the help, now might be a good window of opportunity for them to include this. 8-) -- Warm regards, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Urban, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:59:29 PM, you wrote: >> "Add Hyperlink" is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I >> looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there. U> In the Edit Mail Message Window, there is a row of icons; select font U> and size and such thing. (If you don't see it, make sure you are in the U> HTML-editor, then go to the View menu and check HTML Toolbar.) In this U> row there is an icon that looks like a globe and a paper clip -- that's U> the one. Yes. I see how to accomplish that in the HTML editor, but how to do this in the Plain Text (Windows Proportional)?? That's where my unclickable links were showing. I 'spoke' to Allie about this and he was not seeing the same thing I was reporting about this. Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the window to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells and whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable MicroEd. I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the text the way I created it, wrapping to the window instead. There will be emails where I use the new features (Tables! Italics!) but not many, and not to this List for sure. 8-)) -- Best regards, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Urban, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:05:00 PM, you wrote: U> Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote: A>>> Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? >> This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were >> going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do >> not know. Is there a way to find out? U> Send messages to yourself, using the different editors, then read the U> messages using the different users. U> But to save you the trouble I just did that, Thanks! U> and found that if you send U> using the HTML-editor you must add hyperlinks using the "Add hyperlink" U> icon if the HTML-viewer is to see them as a hyperlink otherwise it U> thinks they are plain text. Thank you! "Add Hyperlink" is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there. 8-( Somewhere else maybe? -- Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Frank, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:57:36 AM, you wrote: F> There was a cut mark in my mail. F> Regards, F> Frank Yes, but as you can see, your signature is _above_ it, not below. The sig needs to be below the cut. -- Cheers, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hi Frank, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:40:47 AM, you wrote: F> There ist no updated help file :(( Ah, I see, but shouldn't there be an old help file and not an error message? Listen, Frank, before they get you with a trout, be sure to put a cut mark in your mails. Before your sig, on a clean line, put dash dash space enter, then your sig under that. This way, when we all reply to you we don't have to trim the sig. Thank you for your help! -- Regards, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Allie, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:34:19 AM, you wrote: A> Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM>> Another user of The Bat! emailed to say the link I had sent them MM>> did not appear as a link. A> Would you send an example of the link you sent? Here it is: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0890055602/104-7347640-0256713?v=glance It shows to me as clickable and also to another friend who is using The Bat! A> Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do not know. Is there a way to find out? MM>> So, I went into that pesky Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer to MM>> see if I had the wrong settings So, I clicked on the Help MM>> button and received an error message stating: MM>> --- Windows Help MM>> --- The topic does not exist. Contact your MM>> application vendor for an updated Help file. (129) MM>> --- OK --- A> I get that too. :/ MM>> Is it necessary for me to reinstall The Bat!? A> Not at all. MM>> If so, can I reinstall over the current installation without MM>> losing data? A> Yes, you can do this. This is the recommended method of upgrading etc. OK, Allie, I'm now not sure why the help file is not working. If I don't have to reinstall to correct the help file, then why would I want to reinstall it? :O If I understand you correctly, I don't have to reinstall, but if I reinstall, I can do it over the other version as I have done in the past to save my breath and life. 8-)) -- Thanks for RR, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
