Re[2]: How reliable is 'kill dupes'?
Hi Thomas, Wednesday, February 5, 2003, 2:58:47 PM, you wrote: TF On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:05:03 +0530 GMT (05/02/03, 14:35 +0700 GMT), TF chinchi wrote: How reliable is the 'kill dupes' command in TB? I have seen it delete messages that weren't really dupes at all, even tho TB says that it deletes messages with the same ID and it's not usual for two messages to have same message ID. But at times I do need to use this command. How much can we trust it? TF It is unusual for messages to have the same mid, but even if two TF messages with the same mid are encountered, they will only be TF declared dupes if they also carry the same time stamp. TF I have found the kill dupes function very reliable over the the years. Many a time I had to us th kill dupes for hundreds of messages ( not mailing list ones) and I noticed that at times, it did mess up. It deleted messages with differeeent From and Subject headers .I wondered how can those have the same ID. So I'm just paranoid using it again now wanting to lose some important message due to this and think I should do it manually but it takes too long, checking every message. The need for kill dupes arises because I use IMAP and there's nothing in TB that would sync all the messages back and forth. May be I should use POP with it till ver 2.0 comes out... -- Best regards, chinchi Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How reliable is 'kill dupes'?
Hi Miguel, Wednesday, February 5, 2003, 6:34:59 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Gerard, Do they remove dupes without asking or is TB! the cause of the dupes? MAU No, TB is not the cause of dupes, at least of the ones I have verified. I just did a test. I marked all 81 messages in my inbox as unread using the message dispatcher and then downloaded them in to an empty local inbox. I did this once again. The total was 81 + 81 = 162 fine. But when i used the kill dupes command on inbox, it deleted just 80 messages, leaving one dupe even having the same mssage ID. The size was a little bit different tho it was the exact same message. Is TB doing this difference in size or the server? In the past I have seen TB deleting messages with same size but which are different in From/subject headers. -- Best regards, chinchi Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How reliable is 'kill dupes'?
Hi Wolffe, Thursday, February 6, 2003, 3:14:07 AM, you wrote: W On Wednesday, February 05, 2003 chinchi stated: c Hi Miguel, c Wednesday, February 5, 2003, 6:34:59 PM, you wrote: c I just did a test. I marked all 81 messages in my inbox as unread c using the message dispatcher and then downloaded them in to an c empty local inbox. I did this once again. The total was 81 + 81 = c 162 fine. But when i used the kill dupes command on inbox, it c deleted just 80 messages, leaving one dupe even having the same c mssage ID. The size was a little bit different tho it was the exact c same message. W How far off was the size difference? It could be a matter of an W extra digit in the time log for download. 9:59:01 vs 10:00:02 W I'd be curious to know what the exact difference is that precluded W it from being identified as a duplicate. This information could then W be used in future updates to more accurately tweak the deduper. One of them is 4,156 bytes and the other is 4,040 bytes though there's no difference in the actual messages. -- Best regards, chinchi Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
