Re[2]: Replies arrive before originals (was:Re: Strange error message when sending)

2000-08-13 Thread Gerd Ewald 

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Hi Marck,

on Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:21:19 +0100 GMT
your local time, which was 13.08.2000, 13:21:19 (GMT+0200) my local time,
you wrote about "Replies arrive before originals (was:Re: Strange error message when 
sending)":



MDP> IOW: I'd have a word with your ISP.



If this will happen again, I will !

Thank you for explaining the header: it's the first time I really understood
what happened !

Thanks Marck !

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Re[2]: Replies arrive before originals (was:Re: Strange error message when sending)

2000-08-13 Thread Gerd Ewald 

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Hi Mark,

on Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:07:35 +0100 GMT
your local time, which was 13.08.2000, 13:07:35 (GMT+0200) my local time,
you wrote about "Replies arrive before originals (was:Re: Strange error message when 
sending)":



MRH> For interests sake - this message is sent from home (via my server,
MRH> the ISP relay and outwards...) so it'll be interesting to see whether
MRH> there are problems in timing with this message too?




Thanks for your reply. No problems with this message. Although your idea is a
good explanation for the effect, I think it is a problem with my ISP, as Marck
mentioned in his reply.


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Re[2]: Replies arrive before originals (was:Re: Strange error message when sending)

2000-08-13 Thread Mark R Harding 

Marck,

Regarding your message dated: 13 August 2000...

MDP> In truth, time difference in seconds can't be really be relied upon. I
MDP> once  saw someone sneering at PC clock synchronizers on this list but,
MDP> IMHO,  such  things  are a necessity for clarity and to ensure that we
MDP> are  all  talking  the same language. I use one which runs on the main
MDP> comms  machine  here  on  my LAN and knows how to get the current real
MDP> time from a time server. It will do this at one minute intervals while
MDP> I  am  connected  to  an ISP and I dial out at least every 15 minutes.
MDP> This  software  also provides time server services for the LAN and all
MDP> other  machines  here  look  to  it  for an update at around 30 minute
MDP> intervals.  A  PC  clock  will  drift  by a few seconds every day. The
MDP> practices  I  observe here mean that no PC in the house is out by more
MDP> than  a  second  at any time (except in the case of prolonged dial-out
MDP> failure).

I'd agree that a time synchroniser is pretty much essential to allow
accurate clock-times to be maintained... I use "Dimension 4" which is
a marvellous little piece of freeware.  I discovered it when a
colleague's machine lost its ability to maintain the clock-time when
it was switched off (i.e. A CMOS clock problem) and by putting
"Dimension 4" into the startup group the machine re-established its
link with "the real world" on each boot.

In case anyone is interested, "Dimension 4" is available here...

  http://www.accessone.com/~thinkman/dimension4/

Cheers,

Mark


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