Re[2]: Unable to read untitled.msg attachments (? from Novell Grpwise)
Hi Alexander, In short: why complain to RIT labs about Novells' bugs? Wouldn't it be more logical to complain to *Novell* instead? Certainly, if I knew it was a Novell bug when I asked. Without the expertise that you have related to these issues, I can only follow the course of action dictated by logic with the information available to me... 1. I've not experienced similar problems with the only other client that I use (Calypso). 2. With TB!, I can't view some attachments from Novell Groupwise. These same attachments, when re-forwarded back to me and viewed with Calypso, are fine. 3. I like The Bat!, so in order to sort out this problem, I asked advice from those of you who know more about this than I do. No complaining going on here...just asking for help. Until your explanation, it appeared to me as a TB! problem. I appreciate your response and accept it. I suspect it will be a challenge to have this addressed now at the level of our computer support people in the hospital (who want me to be like everyone else and have a workstation using only their software), or at the level of Novell. Still, I'll never know unless I try. -- Best regards, Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Unable to read untitled.msg attachments (? from Novell Grpwise)
I don't think the problem is Calypso, I think it is something to do with GroupWise. I know my Dad's secretary forwards him e-mail messages through GroupWise, and more often than not the same problem occurs for him. I much prefer using TB!; I'd like to be able to figure out this attachment issue. AVK This is *not* the problem of TB, it's rather the problem of AVK Novell or whatever, as I have already proved in one of my AVK previous messages... *My* thoughts on being a software developer and developer of user-level utilities, is that regardless of the source of errors or problems, making one's own software able to deal with other peoples bugs is a good thing and only serves to help your users. It doesn't matter if the "problem" comes from GroupWise or The Bat!, what matters is if a user needs something to happen, and it does in a different piece of software, they *will* use that different piece of software, regardless of where the problem originates. In other words, if Calypso fits this person's bill better than The Bat! does, well, I think they may find that The Bat! is not suited to their task. -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Unable to read untitled.msg attachments (? from Novell Grpwise)
Hello Allie Martin, On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:34:40 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, January 17, 2000, 6:34:40 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: Allie On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:17:18 -0800, Tom Plunket wrote: (snip) Allie I remember a problem like that which I had in my OS/2 days. I used to Allie run a shell enhancement app called X-it and PMMail was my e-mail client. Allie Whenever I had X-it running and opened PMMail, PMMail's interface would go Allie berserk. The interesting thing was that this did not occur with earlier Allie versions of PMMail. Well IMHO at the time, the logical move was to write Allie to the PMMail developers who told me that they knew about it and the Allie problem was with X-it and that I should ask the X-it developers about it. Allie I wrote to the X-it developers only to be told that the problem was Allie with PMMail. Needless to say, at this point I was pissed. I ended up being Allie the mediator of a technical exchange on whose fault it was (did I really Allie care at the time? .. NO!). The X-it developers ended up being the Allie one's to fix things. I'll never know if they simply were practicing what Allie you preach Tom, but as the software user, I didn't really care; I was only Allie happy. :-/ .This attitude of different suppliers has always existed from the very first computers. One of the reasons when building mainframes we got as much as possible all the parts from the same place to avoid this shuffle why something doesnt work. However in this case it seems to me that Novel should be told they have a bug or a secret feature. On the other hand, arent programs reading 'field data' which can have bugs/mistakes supposed to ignore obvious mistakes in email formats or compensate for it. Most of my own programs did as otherwise everytime they hit a problem I had to go and fix it manually... It shouldnt be that much work to let the bat ignore this error and then one can advertise the bat as working with Novell... Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Unable to read untitled.msg attachments (? from Novell Grpwise)
Hi Januk, Friday, January 14, 2000, 4:57:29 PM, you wrote: I don't think the problem is Calypso, I think it is something to do with GroupWise. I know my Dad's secretary forwards him e-mail messages through GroupWise, and more often than not the same problem occurs for him. This is my impression as well. This has happened with several messages, and the only common thread is GroupWise. When I receive my forwarded messages with Calypso, there is never a problem with such attachments. I forwarded the same "untitled.msg" back to myself, and re-downloaded it with Calypso. I viewed the attachment without a problem. I much prefer using TB!; I'd like to be able to figure out this attachment issue. -- Best regards, Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Unable to read untitled.msg attachments (? from Novell Grpwise)
Hi Alexander, Okay, can you MIME-attach one of these offending messages and let us see what's the matter with it? Here is one...(attached) Thanks -- Best regards, Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Untitled.msg
