Re[3]: Replying to your message dated Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 9:54 AM

2000-09-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello ztrader!

Monday, September 18, 2000, 12:59:23 PM, you wrote:

 I thought you were advocating sending a 'hollow' message with only a
 link, then TB AUTOMATICALLY gets the content and opens/executes it
 with no operator intervention. This would make it look to the
 operator as though the link were the message. Convenient and
 transparent, but a hazard.

 As long as the viewer knows that it is a download and can intervene,
 it is essentially the same as what TB does now. Not a problem.

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 As long as it is not opened/executed automatically.

 Probably was not as clear as I could have been on the objection.

Just to clear things up - I hope: Remember how Windows 9x handles
those "links" you can put where ever you want it? It creates a kind of
dummy file, which one can identify as this by a little arrow put on it
standardly. This one is *not* dangerous.

Now, when you open the dummy it refers the action to the original
file. That can be dangerous for obvious reasons.

This concept is not a Windows concept; the first OS I saw using it was
IBM's OS/2 2.1 - and I like it very much and am using it extensively
under Win 95. So much for background.

Outlook and its derivates can handle these "links" as such and not as
files. Like I wrote when you attach a file you get the option "Send
file as link". This is admittedly dangerous since any kind of file can
be send this way. But, it can only work when sender *and* receiver
have access to the used hard drive (so both can open the file) - no
one can bring in a virus this way. And can only come from within the
company's network. If it is a manageable company (spare Dilbert for
this): No problem here.

The advertising agency I work for is about 80/90 people big with
around 60/70 folks who don't have a clue about computers. They really
are not able to use OE efficiently, securely or malappropriate. What
we do with this link feature is easy, sending small to medium Word
documents without macros etc. over the net making as little traffic as
possible. For this limited purpose it is a wonderful tool.

And since I am the only one using TB! - and there are just a handful
of colleagues using Eudora, Calypso and some other clients - I always
have the difficulty to explain to the "illiterate" why I can't send
those easy to open links.

BTW, I really like the feature.


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Re[3]: Replying to your message dated Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 9:54 AM

2000-09-17 Thread ztrader

On Sunday, September 17, 2000, 10:57:57 AM, you wrote:

DH No. Links as in Windows 9x. The company I write for wants us to send
DH just links to documents and not the documents itself to hold net
DH traffic down (good idea).

As with everything, there is the good and the bad.

DH Problem with TB!: It is handled just as another file, if you double
DH click it, it does not do anything

Thank heavens! I, for one, do NOT want TB to download and open/execute
some unknown file from wherever. This looks like a massive security
hole, ala M$ programs. If you want to do these kinds of things, use
OE. Please do NOT put these kinds of capabilities in TB.

Why not send it as a web reference? These are OK in TB, plus, they are
of use to people NOT using M$ products :-). Let's not help M$ tighten
their strangle hold any more by spreading their non-standards.

ztrader

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Re[3]: Replying to your message dated Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 9:54 AM

2000-09-15 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello ztrader!

Friday, September 15, 2000, 12:49:28 AM, you wrote:


 I'd rather the developers concentrate on things relating to CONTENT,
 not 'flash'.

"Flash" reminds me: I just happened to have to read a homepage that
was written totally in Flash. And actually all of it could have been
made in HTML.
I gather that in not too long a time someone wants to have Flash
e-mail. Or whatever multimedia "standard" will come ;-).


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