Re[3]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability

2004-09-24 Thread Jeff Gaines
Hello admin,

On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 7:33:05 PM, you wrote:

>> Hi,

>> Thursday, September 23, 2004, 12:25:51 PM, you wrote:

aacu>>> b) Unspecified instability causing TB to quit and close down without
aacu>>> warning with a 'MS error 'Send Now' message thing.

aacu>>> This seems, so far, not to happen when TB is displayed on the primary
aacu>>> monitor.

aacu>>> Anyone else using dual monitors are you getting similar probs?

> After a day of complete nightmare with TB crashing out and system
> errors popping up everywhere I've uninstalled TB and am using it on my
> Laptop.

> I am very disappointed to discover that this has been a long term
> bug/problem and nothing seems to have been done about it. I can't
> believe this is regarded as trivial.

I am running dual monitors here on a Radeon 9800 Pro. I have just been
moving TB! between monitors and re-sizing column headers without
problems.

Unfortunately most s/w is not dual monitor aware (try Delphi 7 for
some fun) and the older Windows help system produces blank dialogs on
the secondary monitor.

Are your graphics drivers up to date?

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Re[3]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability

2004-10-06 Thread Jeff Gaines
Hello Group

On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 2:17:29 PM,  wrote:

> Hello Steven,

> Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 8:56:57 AM, you wrote:

>> admin,

>>   I also use TB (v2) on a multi-monitor (3) configuration.
>  Do you have a physical 3 screens or virtual ?
>  I tried on 2 physical screens, works fine. Since application have no
> idea that there are more than 1 screen.

>>   And since I use TB2, I doubt it will ever be fixed because
>>   I get a strong impression that v2 has been abandoned.  RIT
>>   wants us to pay for v3 to get features we neither need nor
>>   want in order to get bug fixes to v2 that haven't even been
>>   implemented.

> "Welcome to the real world" (c) A black guy with a blue pills from
> a place that calls Matrix.


I wonder if the key may be whether you use the multi monitors as one
big screen (stretched mode in Matrox speak) or run them independently?

I often have problems when old style help dialogs appear on the
secondary monitor in that the dialog has a caption asking me to select
something but the body is empty.

My Parhelia is having a break at the Matrox hospital in Ireland at the
moment, I'll do some experiments when (?if) it comes back.

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Re[3]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability

2004-10-21 Thread Steven P Valliere
Ivan,

Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 9:17:29 AM, you wrote:

>>   I also use TB (v2) on a multi-monitor (3) configuration.
IL>  Do you have a physical 3 screens or virtual ?

I have three physical monitors attached to three physical
video cards (AGP GeForce 2/MX, PCI Diamond Viper 550, PCI
3Dfx Banshee) and use the multi-monitor capability that is
built in to Windows 2000 (which is also in WinME and WinXP).
I've never seen the point of different virtual screens,
since if I'm able to keep track of that many windows on ONE
physical screen anyway, what's the difference?

IL>  I tried on 2 physical screens, works fine. Since application
IL> have no idea that there are more than 1 screen.

I write Windows software for a living and I can say with
assurance that applications that have no idea there is more
than one screen simply haven't checked.  There are standard
system calls to get the number, size, resolution, color depth,
etc. of every active display.  There is probably a call to
determine the layout of the displays, too, but I haven't needed
that one yet.

>>   And since I use TB2, I doubt it will ever be fixed because
>>   I get a strong impression that v2 has been abandoned.  RIT
>>   wants us to pay for v3 to get features we neither need nor
>>   want in order to get bug fixes to v2 that haven't even been
>>   implemented.

IL> "Welcome to the real world" (c) A black guy with a blue pills
IL> from a place that calls Matrix.

Yup.  But since I have the "privilege" of supporting software
that is sometimes as much as 20 years old (but typically only
about 5-8 yrs old), I've developed a strong belief that all
abandoned (AKA unsupported) software should be either:

 (A) Automatically entered into the public domain, WITH source,
 so that someone else may maintain it.

 (B) Upgraded (for FREE) to the next supported version.

(Sorry I took so long to respond, I was out of town)
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