Re[3]: Registered user features?

[Jamie Dainton]

Hello Östen Häggmark,
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:22:58 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Saturday, September 16, 2000, 16:22:58 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,

Östen Häggmark wrote:

ÖH> The hackers will hack in any case. The people who is willing to pay
ÖH> should be treated in a honest way

As there are so many updates it's more effort to constantly hack the
exe every time than register. I don't know about key gens though.
Version 2 may implement a rather nice key gen as I saw some rather
free/cheap delphi code for this. Works a bit like RSA key pairs.


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Re[2]: Registered user features?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hello A.,

Friday, September 15, 2000, 1:17:04 AM, you wrote:



ACM> I always thought the unregistered version was fully functional. Hmmm.
ACM> Anyone know of the unregistered version of TB! being crippled in any
ACM> way?

The only difference i can tell is that you get rid of the nag screen
when you start up the program.:-)


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Re: Registered user features?

[tracer]

Hello A. Curtis Martin,
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:17:04 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, September 15, 2000, 6:17:04 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
A. Curtis Martin wrote:


> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:54:37 +0200, Östen Häggmark wrote:

ÖH>> I have been trying the Bat for some weeks, and the decision to
ÖH>> register the Bat was not a hard one to make. I never felt so at home
ÖH>> with an email-client, even if it's going to take some time to learn
ÖH>> to use it properly. The TBUDL-list is a very good way of doing that,
ÖH>> I have found out.

> That's nice to hear. I hope you'll feel even better about this as time
> goes by. TB! is a great client with a lot of personality, ie, it's own
> quirks and unique style in certain respects. :-)

ÖH>> But as I was looking into the "How to register" page I noticed the
ÖH>> line "use features available only for registered users."

> I always thought the unregistered version was fully functional. Hmmm.
> Anyone know of the unregistered version of TB! being crippled in any
> way?

maybe a language problem. Living in Thailand as I do its amazing how
many people speak English and manage to totally confuse each other...
Probably not much better with Moldavia.

Secondly considering that all their docs are way out of date I wouldnt
be surprised if that statement also has survived where it shouldnt...



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Re[2]: Registered user features?

[Östen Häggmark]

> Oh,  I don't think there was ever an intent to deceive here.

No I don't think so either. I overreacted there, I apologize sincerly.

I think that line is just one of those loose ends - some day it will
be tied up, I'm sure.

As earlier said - the one thing TB isn't lacking is features.

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Re: Registered user features?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Östen,

On 16 September 2000 at 17:22:58 GMT +0200 (which was 16:22 where I
live) Östen Häggmark wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Registered user features?":

ÖH> I realize I may appear petty-minded here but...telling people you'll
ÖH> get things if you pay, and then not delivering them, that's
ÖH> called...well you know what it's called. :-)

ÖH> Also, a note that the trial version is fully functional would, at least
ÖH> for me, give a more favorable impression.

Hmm. I always thought that multiple account support was disabled after
the  evaluation  period expired and *that* was the "features available
only for registered users".

ÖH> The hackers will hack in any case. The people who is willing to pay
ÖH> should be treated in a honest way.

Oh,  I don't think there was ever an intent to deceive here. If what I
say about multiple accounts is not true, it certainly used to be. They
may  not  have kept the prompt up to date with reality if that has now
changed.

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Re: Registered user features?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Östen,

On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:22:58 +0200 GMT (16/09/2000, 23:22 +0800 GMT),
Östen Häggmark wrote:

ÖH> I realize I may appear petty-minded here but...telling people you'll
ÖH> get things if you pay, and then not delivering them, that's
ÖH> called...well you know what it's called. :-)

Everything has been delivered - only earlier than you thought. ;-)

ÖH> The hackers will hack in any case. The people who is willing to pay
ÖH> should be treated in a honest way.

You're pretty right. I think they will change the text soon.

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Re[2]: Registered user features?

[Östen Häggmark]

I realize I may appear petty-minded here but...telling people you'll
get things if you pay, and then not delivering them, that's
called...well you know what it's called. :-)

Also, a note that the trial version is fully functional would, at least
for me, give a more favorable impression.

The hackers will hack in any case. The people who is willing to pay
should be treated in a honest way.

ÖH>> "The registration gives you the right to use The Bat! after the 30-day
ÖH>> trial period, receive technical support and use features available
ÖH>> only for registered users."

ÖH>> If there are no such features, maybe that last bit should be removed.

TF> Or maybe not . Makes people think they should pay and not just hack
TF> their way in. :-)

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Re: Registered user features?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Östen,

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:17:23 +0200GMT (16/09/2000, 01:17 +0800GMT),
Östen Häggmark wrote:

ÖH> "The registration gives you the right to use The Bat! after the 30-day
ÖH> trial period, receive technical support and use features available
ÖH> only for registered users."

ÖH> If there are no such features, maybe that last bit should be removed.

Or maybe not . Makes people think they should pay and not just hack
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Re: Registered user features?

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On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:17:23 +0200, Östen Häggmark wrote:

ÖH> That's very good. Still, the first thing that meets your eye in the
ÖH> "How to register" page under the Help menu is the line:

ÖH> "The registration gives you the right to use The Bat! after the 30-day
ÖH> trial period, receive technical support and use features available
ÖH> only for registered users."

ÖH> If there are no such features, maybe that last bit should be removed.

Those pages were written primarily by a Russian and there could easily
be errors in the wording of some statements. This is one example it
would appear. :-)

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Re[2]: Registered user features?

[Östen Häggmark]

> Not  crippled  in any way. Even if some report the opposite... The eval
> version   stops   working  after  the  trial  period  but  offers  full
> functionality until the date of expiration.

That's very good. Still, the first thing that meets your eye in the
"How to register" page under the Help menu is the line:

"The registration gives you the right to use The Bat! after the 30-day
trial period, receive technical support and use features available
only for registered users."

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Re: Registered user features?

[Dieter Hummel]

Hello Listmembers,

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 at 18:17:04 [GMT -0500] A. Curtis Martin wrote:

> I always thought the unregistered version was fully functional. Hmmm.
> Anyone know of the unregistered version of TB! being crippled in any
> way?

Not  crippled  in any way. Even if some report the opposite... The eval
version   stops   working  after  the  trial  period  but  offers  full
functionality until the date of expiration.

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Re: Registered user features?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello,


On  Thursday, September 14, 2000  at  18:17:04 GMT -0500 (which was 4:17 PM
where I live) witnesses say A . Curtis Martin typed:

ÖH>> But as I was looking into the "How to register" page I noticed the
ÖH>> line "use features available only for registered users."

> I always thought the unregistered version was fully functional. Hmmm.
> Anyone know of the unregistered version of TB! being crippled in any
> way?

 That's what I thought too.  Unfortunately, by the time most people
 discover the full power of TB, they've been long registered users.

 I think the only thing that's crippled is the startup screen.  The
 other thing I noticed is that unregistered users have the Serial
 Number displayed in the Mailer header.

 


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Re: Registered user features?

[A . Curtis Martin]

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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:54:37 +0200, Östen Häggmark wrote:

ÖH> I have been trying the Bat for some weeks, and the decision to
ÖH> register the Bat was not a hard one to make. I never felt so at home
ÖH> with an email-client, even if it's going to take some time to learn
ÖH> to use it properly. The TBUDL-list is a very good way of doing that,
ÖH> I have found out.

That's nice to hear. I hope you'll feel even better about this as time
goes by. TB! is a great client with a lot of personality, ie, it's own
quirks and unique style in certain respects. :-)

ÖH> But as I was looking into the "How to register" page I noticed the
ÖH> line "use features available only for registered users."

I always thought the unregistered version was fully functional. Hmmm.
Anyone know of the unregistered version of TB! being crippled in any
way?

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Registered user features?

[Östen Häggmark]

I have been trying the Bat for some weeks, and the decision to
register the Bat was not a hard one to make. I never felt so at home
with an email-client, even if it's going to take some time to learn to
use it properly. The TBUDL-list is a very good way of doing that, I
have found out.

But as I was looking into the "How to register" page I noticed the
line "use features available only for registered users."

I can't find any references to these features. Of course there already
are more features than I can use, but now that I'm registered, at
least it would be fun to know which they are :-)

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