Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Carsten, Maybe this one helps you. Its actual purpose is to add list names to the To-address when replying. The first %IF checks for the existence of characters in From-name that make quoting neccessary. Thanks a lot, it certainly does the trick :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
* Miguel A. Urech writes: Hello Marck, There's your problem. Do this instead. Hello %OFROMFNAME,%- %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%- %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='Some Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]' The %OFROMNAME macro excludes the double quotes (and should). I've tried that, but then every Name in the To field will appear in between quotes. I know that is no problem, but I thought I could avoid it. Maybe this one helps you. Its actual purpose is to add list names to the To-address when replying. The first %IF checks for the existence of characters in From-name that make quoting neccessary. , | %IF:%- | %SETPATTREGEXP='[\.\@,;;\\\(\)\[\]]'%REGEXPMATCH='%OFromName'=%- | :#%- | %TO=''%- | %TO=_%CAPITAL='%OFROMNAME' on %- | %ABoreplyHANDLE='%ABoreplyNAME'%- | %OREPLYADDR_#%- | :#%- | %TO=''%- | %TO=_%CAPITAL='%OFROMNAME' on %- | %ABoreplyHANDLE='%ABoreplyNAME'%- | %OREPLYADDR_%- | #%- ` (listname is stored in handle field of the address book) -- HTH + best regards, Carsten Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Miguel, ,- [ ] | I receive a message with: | From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] | When I reply to it, TB includes this address in the To field but | without the quotes: | To: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Well, that was the generic case. It actually is: I receive a message from the list with: From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I reply to it using my template, TB includes this _name_ in the To field but without the quotes: To: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] I said I'm a bit thick this week %-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @1-Mar-2003, 11:36 +0100 (10:36 UK time) Miguel A. Urech [MAU] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Generally, TB does what it is told to in the templates. MAU Yeap, I know. And that is my problem with the reply template I have ... snip MAU If I reply, I always want to do so to the list but with the name of MAU the sender. So, in my Reply template I included: MAU Hello %OFROMFNAME,%- MAU %TO=%TO=%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- MAU %REPLYTO=%REPLYTO=Some Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's your problem. Do this instead. Hello %OFROMFNAME,%- %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%- %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='Some Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]' The %OFROMNAME macro excludes the double quotes (and should). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+YJMqOeQkq5KdzaARArIKAKCBUwF4iXYYV1gZRbHSO4pvUeNeogCfYCpI ALjMILSfNlavv9QvTIop414= =rDWj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Marck, There's your problem. Do this instead. Hello %OFROMFNAME,%- %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%- %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='Some Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]' The %OFROMNAME macro excludes the double quotes (and should). I've tried that, but then every Name in the To field will appear in between quotes. I know that is no problem, but I thought I could avoid it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @1-Mar-2003, 12:16 +0100 (11:16 UK time) Miguel A. Urech [MAU] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello %OFROMFNAME,%- %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%- %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='Some Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]' The %OFROMNAME macro excludes the double quotes (and should). MAU I've tried that, but then every Name in the To field will MAU appear in between quotes. I know that is no problem, but I MAU thought I could avoid it. Well, the only way to avoid that is to use a RegEx to decide whether the name contains any special characters and deal with it accordingly. I'd say this is a TBTECH issue though, since double quoting a name every time is no problem and is what I do anyway. It's a cake and eat it thing. Either you let TB default the TO field content and carry the original quote formatting over or you want to extract name parts and reconstruct the addressing yourself, in which case it's up to you to program it as required. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+YKb9OeQkq5KdzaARAtz1AJ9q3y1Dk5mcy1eJ9346+brpa6HouwCgnyeP yFrX7vjJ3KilmcrTYppDU90= =rB1J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Marck, Well, the only way to avoid that is to use a RegEx to decide whether the name contains any special characters and deal with it accordingly. I'd say this is a TBTECH issue though, since double quoting a name every time is no problem and is what I do anyway. You are right, TBTECH would be the place to go. But no, I'll take the easy path and use the template quoting every name. Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Good evening Marck, It was foretold that on 28-2-2003 @ 23:22:26 GMT+ (which was 0:22:26 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone would mumble: snipped a bit MDP %REM=+ MDP Name Plucker by Marck I'm not familiar with Regex but am i correct in assuming this one only works with entries from the AB? -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. The years that a woman can shed are not lost. They are added to the age of others. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luc, @28-Feb-2003, 21:04 +0100 (20:04 UK time) Luc [L] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: L snipped a bit MDP %REM=+ MDP Name Plucker by Marck L I'm not familiar with Regex but am i correct in assuming this one L only works with entries from the AB? No. It is enhanced by entries in the AB but works using the current TO field contents. The actual version is: %REM=+ Name Plucker by Marck +%- %IF:%ABToLastName=list:%TOFNAME:%- %ABToNamePrefix='%ABToFirstName=#%ABofromFIRSTNAME=.%TOFNAME.#'%- %TO=%TO='%ABofromCompany=_%ABofromNAME=/%OFROMNAME/_ %TOADDR' This is called in my reply template just after the Hi bit and supplies the correct first name for the recipient as well as sorting out the to field content. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+X9OpOeQkq5KdzaARAjPbAJwK4rjcEJXq4+43gkA+UB+D282i2ACfTeEr /2Dzir1rnTYw/lxzRg7MvAo= =mIES -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Marck, It was foretold that on 28-2-2003 @ 21:24:56 GMT+ (which was 22:24:56 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone would mumble: snipped a bit MDP No. It is enhanced by entries in the AB but works using the current MDP TO field contents. The actual version is: :-) Thank you Marck. Have to try that one. -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. He who is always his own counsellor will often have a fool for his client. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello all, I receive a message with: From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I reply to it, TB includes this address in the To field but without the quotes: To: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] And if I click send I get the following error: --- Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid RFC821 mailbox specification. --- Obviously, if I manually include the quotes, the message is sent just fine. Does anybody know why TB strips the quotes when replying. Does this happen in higher TB versions? I'm still on 1.61. TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Good evening Miguel, It was foretold that on 27-2-2003 @ 21:53:44 GMT+0100 (which was 21:53:44 where I live) Miguel A. Urech would mumble: snipped a bit MAU Obviously, if I manually include the quotes, the message is sent MAU just fine. Does anybody know why TB strips the quotes when MAU replying. Does this happen in higher TB versions? I'm still on MAU 1.61. I don't know if this is of any assistance for you Miguel, but i don't receive From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I receive From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] without quotes. However on replying, TB! inserts the quotes and doesn't give any errors. I never had that problem in 1.61 either. -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. Inside every older person, there's a younger person wondering what happened. Gloria Swanson (1897-1983). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Miguel A. Urech typed: MAU I receive a message with: MAU From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU When I reply to it, TB includes this address in the To field but MAU without the quotes: MAU To: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the problem with comma after Blow and when you put the name in quotation marks the program recognizes prefix Jr as a part of name. Otherwise prefix Jr seems like a part of the e-mail address. My thoughts. Regards, -- Sergey E. Kalabekov Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Miguel, Correction to my last message: Jr is suffix. Regards, -- Sergey E. Kalabekov Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Sergey, I think the problem with comma after Blow and when you put the name in quotation marks the program recognizes prefix Jr as a part of name. Otherwise prefix Jr seems like a part of the e-mail address. My thoughts. Yes, I know the problem comes because of the comma, but still I don't understand why TB strips the quotation marks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Luc, I don't know if this is of any assistance for you Miguel, but i don't receive From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I receive From: Joe Blow, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] without quotes. However on replying, TB! inserts the quotes and doesn't give any errors. I never had that problem in 1.61 either. I guess TB does the right thing in your case to compensate what it does wrong in mine :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Miguel A. Urech typed: MAU Yes, I know the problem comes because of the comma, but still I don't MAU understand why TB strips the quotation marks. Might be your Reply template that strips quotes, not the program. Sincerely, -- Sergey E. Kalabekov Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
Hello Sergey, Might be your Reply template that strips quotes, not the program. Hmmm, I didn't think of that. I will check it. Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stupid problem with quoted names
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @27-Feb-2003, 23:13 +0100 (22:13 UK time) Miguel A. Urech [MAU] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MAU I guess TB does the right thing in your case to compensate what it MAU does wrong in mine :) Generally, TB does what it is told to in the templates. You can compensate by using template macros. It's a long time since I relied on the default behaviour anyway ;-). Here's the one I use. %REM=+ Name Plucker by Marck +%- %IF:%ABToLastName=list:%qinclude='listto':%- %ABToNamePrefix='%ABToFirstName=#%ABofromFIRSTNAME=.%TOFNAME.#'%- %TO=%TO='%ABofromCompany=_%ABofromNAME=/%OFROMNAME/_ %TOADDR' Not only does it put the double quotes in, it also calls people by name the name by which I usually refer to them, whatever they may have called themselves in the original message (if I know them well enough - i.e. they're in my address book). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD4DBQE+Xp21OeQkq5KdzaARAmFNAJdS6TnGcBaUyQ/cfdXsrbG2Y5GOAKCYk19R vSc5alpROOzDpJRphGdtRQ== =fI3c -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
