Re:glyphs.bmp (was Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?)
Hi, you used the ISO-8859-15 encoding for your message. If you do so, you shouldn't (can't) use a ´ in your message because it is not included in the ISO-8859-15 charset. The Bat shows a instead of a ´ if it knows of 8859-15 (like The Bat 1.54 with fixed 8859-15 encoding). Using ' should work better, I think. ;-) configuration isnt complete yet, so it may take a few more days for ^ Im sure you wont have to. :) ^ ^ -- Yours, Patrick -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, February 6, 2002 at 7:29:54 AM you wrote: What is WIR? When It's Ready. I'm having a slight deja vu here ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/37 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who wants to live in an institution? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
glyphs.bmp (was Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?)
On Sunday, February 3, 2002 at 19:43 you wrote about The Bat vs. 1.54?: DC The only things I would personally change are the dodgy looking button DC images and the uncertainty of whether I will have to pay to upgrade DC when a new version does arrive. Hi Dave, now that my computer is running again I might be able to help you with the buttons. It is quite easy to edit your glyphs.bmp file. My configuration isn´t complete yet, so it may take a few more days for me to re-find the other icons I used before my machine went down. ;-) DC Given that I am about to pay for my copies (16 more days!) I don't DC fancy shelling out again in a month or so! I´m sure you won´t have to. :) -- Cheers Peter winamp now playing: Gry with FM Einheit and his Or - Princess Crocodile -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: glyphs.bmp (was Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?)
Hi Peter, Wednesday, February 06, 2002, 8:43:42 PM, Peter wrote: Peter Meyns now that my computer is running again I might be able to help you with Peter Meyns the buttons. It is quite easy to edit your glyphs.bmp file. My Peter Meyns configuration isn´t complete yet, so it may take a few more days for Peter Meyns me to re-find the other icons I used before my machine went down. ;-) Great ... cheers Peter. BTW, is it worth while upgrading to the beta version, or should I just wait? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Personal Life and Business Coaching World-wide Web: www.e-coaching-only.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member International Coach Federation, ID 1006660. PGP Key on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp Instant Messaging on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_im Using The Bat! v1.53d Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 This message was checked by MailScan for WorkgroupMail. www.workgroupmail.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Dierk, Saturday, February 02, 2002, 12:47:17 AM, you wrote: DH WIR. -- What is WIR? r -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Nick! On Sunday, February 3, 2002 at 8:17:15 AM you wrote: Yes, I would agree with you that WIR was a very poor answer, or at least not the one you were looking for. I am not quite sure but the question comes up once in a while and all we *can* say - and WIR, I think, does it quite good - is that at the moment a new version shouldn't be released. May I remind you, it was us - the users - telling RITLabs to not release a Christmas version (thought I've told it just a few days ago) because it would greatly harm TB!'s reputation. Just think of good programmes that have been harmed by too early releases (Netscape's Navigator/Communicator for one). From what I can see in the current beta TB! is nearing a release, but there are still at least two major bugs to straighten out (optimising memory handling for the RTFV under Win9x and some quirks with the CC). Another thing that has to be said, RITLabs has changed the developmental environment during the 1.54 beta series from Delphi 2 to Delphi 6 opening up a new can of worms. That is the long version of WIR. Hope that Chesterfields ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/34 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Give people more than they expect and do it cheerfully. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
On 03 February 2002 at 07:17 Nick wrote: All I can say is that the wait will have been worth while... and shouldn't be too much longer. I have to agree with Dierk on this one point, and that is the importance of not releasing the next version until the major bugs have been resolved. The problem at times seems to be the addition of new features without resolving some of the old bugs, which results in further delays before the next release. Hopefully that cycle is near an end. ... because the authors were flattened by the beta testers ;) There _was_ a problem with new features being added at too great a rate but, following a big fuss over Christmas, there's now good solid bug-fixing going on. Certainly, since about beta 25, I've felt no need to go back to version 1.53. Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) Using Windows XP and The Bat! 1.54 Beta/34 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Dierk Haasis, On Sunday, February 03 2002 at 01:11 AM PDT, you wrote: May I remind you No need Dierk... I already agreed with you that new releases should be 'relatively' bug free and is the reason why RITLabs is waiting. I was just putting myself in the shoes of TBUDL Members who have been patiently waiting, and in all honesty deserve a more detailed answer to their question of when the next release may be ready other than WIR. :o) -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hi Nick, Personally, I also prefer my software more than relatively bug free though I appreciate that most/all software has bugs of one sort or another. I am happy to wait until things are right, as would most people who rely on software to run their business. Meanwhile, I am enjoying the best e-mail client I have yet encountered one that already does more than I need, more reliably and with less fuss than any other. The only things I would personally change are the dodgy looking button images and the uncertainty of whether I will have to pay to upgrade when a new version does arrive. Given that I am about to pay for my copies (16 more days!) I don't fancy shelling out again in a month or so! BTW, anyone know where to find some more classy buttons? With best wishes, Dave -- David Conroy MSW Personal Life and Business Coaching World-wide Web: www.e-coaching-only.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member International Coach Federation, ID 1006660. PGP Key on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_pgp Instant Messaging on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_im Using The Bat! v1.53d Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Sunday, February 03, 2002, 6:15:33 PM, Nick wrote: Nick Andriash Hello Dierk Haasis, Nick Andriash On Sunday, February 03 2002 at 01:11 AM PDT, you wrote: May I remind you I was just putting myself in the shoes of TBUDL Members who have been patiently waiting, and in all honesty deserve a more detailed answer to their question of when the next release may be ready other than WIR. :o) This message was checked by MailScan for WorkgroupMail. www.workgroupmail.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Dave, 03. februar 2002, 19:43:38, you wrote: DC The only things I would personally change are the dodgy looking button DC images and the uncertainty of whether I will have to pay to upgrade DC when a new version does arrive. Given that I am about to pay for my DC copies (16 more days!) I don't fancy shelling out again in a month or DC so! You can replace those images. Some alternative sets are here: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/glyphs/ http://www.dreamer.de/projekte/thebat/ So far all upgrades were free. I also heard somewhere that those who licensed 1.5x+ will have free upgrade to 2 (when it arrives). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/34 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. -- Weinberg's Second Law Corollary - An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while sweeping on to the Grand Fallacy. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
On Sunday, February 3, 2002, 12:15:33 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: May I remind you No need Dierk... I already agreed with you that new releases should be 'relatively' bug free and is the reason why RITLabs is waiting. I was just putting myself in the shoes of TBUDL Members who have been patiently waiting, and in all honesty deserve a more detailed answer to their question of when the next release may be ready other than WIR. :o) It seems to me, as someone who has been thru nearly all the betas for 1.54, that some of the people who usually eschew betas but are a little risk accepting, if they are impatient for the next release could come on over the the beta and the beta list, although they should think twice if they are running 9.x. I used it a long time with 9.x and put up with the memory loss crashes, but anyone moving to the beta now should know that is probably the main reason 1.54 remains a beta. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/34 on Windows XP version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Dave Conroy, On Sunday, February 03 2002 at 10:43 AM PDT, you wrote: BTW, anyone know where to find some more classy buttons? Not really, and is one reason we've been clamouring for a GUI change. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Sybrand! On Friday, February 1, 2002 at 11:18:44 PM you wrote: Just curious. When will the new version (1.54?) of The Bat be released? WIR. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/34 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C First Rule for Corners: Slow In, Fast Out -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Dierk, Saturday, February 2, 2002, 9:47:17 AM, you wrote to TBUDL: DH WIR. ??? -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/33 on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, February 2, 2002 at 11:49:31 AM , Sybrand Bekius wrote the following on the The Bat vs. 1.54? thread: SB Just curious. When will the new version (1.54?) of The Bat be SB released? When it's finished :) - -- Orogami (or oh GA mee) - n. The miraculous folding process that allows Kleenexes to methodically emerge from the box one at a time. __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Member of the PGP-Basics, Encryption Help Team iD8DBQE8W7ZL8WBGNj3ut+0RAjgwAKDdA0WBsjAequoi0PjY0/nZEcDdYwCgrgO0 l0S3BufudtFJQBLXUSnu6/M= =+C1a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Ottar! On Saturday, February 2, 2002 at 10:08:11 AM you wrote: DH WIR. ??? When It's Ready. From my experience this is not always the deadline for software, but since RITLabs made clear just before Christmas that they'd like to please their customers I think (hope) they will still wait until the next version - regardless of its release name! - will not consist of major bugs or inconveniences. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/34 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Talk slowly, but think quickly. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Ottar, 02. februar 2002, 10:08:11, you wrote: DH WIR. OG ??? When It's Ready -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/34 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] In dealing with the press do yourself a favor. Stick with one of three responses: (a) I know and I can tell you, (b) I know and I can't tell you, or (c) I don't know. -- Rather's Rule -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The Bat vs. 1.54?
On Saturday, February 02, 2002, at 3:47:17 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: Just curious. When will the new version (1.54?) of The Bat be released? DH WIR. I'd like an estimate for when it is due and a list of the expected features. While The Bat is great software, it's not perfect and it hasn't been updated a single time in the nine months I've been using it. I've found in my own experience that a WIR attitude can often mean expect to wait a long time, or maybe never see the software at all. That may not be the case here, but it's worrisome. -- Steven D. ArnoldNeosynapse [EMAIL PROTECTED]Managing Partner AIM: abraxan MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello Steven D. Arnold, On Saturday, February 02 2002 at 08:39 PM PDT, you wrote: I've found in my own experience that a WIR attitude can often mean expect to wait a long time, or maybe never see the software at all. That may not be the case here, but it's worrisome. Yes, I would agree with you that WIR was a very poor answer, or at least not the one you were looking for. I, along with Dierk who gave you that answer, belong to TBBETA and as such have been privy to all the 1.54 Beta releases so we see first hand the ongoing development of TB. You on the other hand... and many others... have been patiently waiting for the next official release of TB. All I can say is that the wait will have been worth while... and shouldn't be too much longer. I have to agree with Dierk on this one point, and that is the importance of not releasing the next version until the major bugs have been resolved. The problem at times seems to be the addition of new features without resolving some of the old bugs, which results in further delays before the next release. Hopefully that cycle is near an end. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat vs. 1.54?
Hello, Just curious. When will the new version (1.54?) of The Bat be released? -- gr. Sybrand Bekius e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
