Using a S/Mime certificate with no specific email adress included

2005-04-29 Thread Stephane Bouvard [ML]
Hi,

In Belgium, we have now an electronic identity card...  this card include a 
certificate allowing us to digitaly sign a document/email...

The problem is : this certificate is used to authenticate our name, not a 
temporary or a specific email address...  it means that this certificate does 
not mention any email address...

Consequence, when i try to sign a mail with The Bat! Pro, it tell me that there 
isn't any certificate for my email address (i think that The Bat only try to 
find a certificate with my email address, and refuse to use a certificate not 
mentionning it )...  but i do not find how i can ask it to use my 
address-less certificate...

With Microsoft Outlook, i need to manualy change a registry key to allow it : 
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\11.0\Outlook\Security\SupressNameChecks

Is it possible with The Bat ! ?  Or did i need to forget TB and use Outlook ?

Thanks for your help.

Best regards...
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Re: Using a S/Mime certificate with no specific email adress included

2005-04-29 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   @  @  at 14:19:53 +0200, when Stephane Bouvard [ML] wrote:

 In Belgium, we have now an electronic identity card...  this card
 include a certificate allowing us to digitaly sign a document/email...

 The problem is : this certificate is used to authenticate our name,
 not a temporary or a specific email address...  it means that this
 certificate does not mention any email address...

 Consequence, when i try to sign a mail with The Bat! Pro, it tell
 me that there isn't any certificate for my email address (i think that
 The Bat only try to find a certificate with my email address, and
 refuse to use a certificate not mentionning it )...  but i do not find
 how i can ask it to use my address-less certificate...

 With Microsoft Outlook, i need to manualy change a registry key to
 allow it :
 HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\11.0\Outlook\Security\SupressNameChecks

 Is it possible with The Bat ! ?  Or did i need to forget TB and use Outlook ?

Hmm...that's problem with The Bat (btw, you can't change anything in
this regard in TB's registry entry), and as I know it's not solved in
any way. You might cheat though TB by associating a fake/blank address
to your nick/name (like giving the address in a form -- literally --
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ), but again it will be, via TB, associated only
with the corresponding account, which hence must be tied to the fake
address, and a fake address you cannot use for any correspondency.

There are some other limitations as to PGP keys used in TB, for
instance, when you want to sign a message, you'll be offered *only*
those keys with the address corresponding to the actual account (while
in some earlier versions you could freely use *any* key with any address
associated). Etc. There are some other...peculiarities too, but let's
them put aside in the moment, it's already pretty messy situation with
some *really* important and essential features, being consistently
neglected, in the strange favour of definitely nonessential ones.

A bearable workaround would be perhaps that authors get these,
actually nonsensical, and absolutely unnecessary, limitations --
unblocked, allowing this way the user to choose *any* PGP
key/certificate s/he wants to use (with or without address!), since TB
does not have and rights actually to think and decide instead the
user which key will be used and in a what way: it is entirely and
strictly the matter of the user him/herself, and of the external program
(PGP/GPG/etc) s/he uses, in the way s/he wants to use it. TB is here
just an intermediary and shouldn't in any way interfere with something
it's not allowed or even appropriate to interfere with.

That is, I should be able, for instance, to sign a message with key 1,
then to encrypt it with a key 2 and to send it using account with
address corresponding to a key 3. (-:

That's my *right* to do with my keys what *I* want and what *I* find
appropriate. Not what some software tells me what is good for me.
It is nonsensical. (-:

These associations of keys/certificates with accounts/addresses etc.
should be dismissed. So, when a User wants to sign/encrypt a message,
then *all* keys/certificates on disposal should be offered, in *any*
account.

Isn't that obvious? (-:

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