Re[2]: Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split
hi, Thursday, March 9, 2006, 6:19:40 PM, you wrote: yeah. points UP. and the list ascends DOWNWARDS. :) Small things at the top. Big things at the bottom. Same way The Bat's arrows work... arrows. as i said, that's different from the triangles... Now I'm really confused. The triangles in The Bat! seem to work in the exact same way as they do in Windows Explorer (no arrows anywhere)... it was just an example of Microsoft's UI thinkers (roll up the thread) who forgot about the meaning and have drawn that triangle's height too low, just to look nicer. so much 'nicer' that it resembles more of an arrow. -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split
hi, Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 4:40:37 PM, you wrote: Not _everything_ MS does is bad, they do have a fairly large usability department. sure. and they render useless quite many things that were useful before. for example, the sort indicator triangle in a field's grid header: it points upwards when the sorting is downwards and vice-versa. originally, that triangle's height should be at least 3 times its width. and, when represented as such, it indicates what it has to: 'small' items on top and 'big' items at bottom (or vice-versa). just as does the triangle near the volume slider on almost every home appliance that has one. but, with their arrow-like (improved!!!(tm)) look it makes only mess in the user's head. -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split
vitalie vrabie @ 3/09/2006 5:30:33 AM Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for example, the sort indicator triangle in a field's grid header: it points upwards when the sorting is downwards and vice-versa. Because it points up when it is sorting ascending... Small things at the top. Big things at the bottom. Same way The Bat's arrows work... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Almost exactly pgpOzG64FL4ay.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split
hi, Thursday, March 9, 2006, 3:28:25 PM, you wrote: for example, the sort indicator triangle in a field's grid header: it points upwards when the sorting is downwards and vice-versa. Because it points up when it is sorting ascending... yeah. points UP. and the list ascends DOWNWARDS. :) Small things at the top. Big things at the bottom. Same way The Bat's arrows work... arrows. as i said, that's different from the triangles... -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split
vitalie vrabie @ 3/09/2006 10:04:23 AM Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for example, the sort indicator triangle in a field's grid header: it points upwards when the sorting is downwards and vice-versa. Because it points up when it is sorting ascending... yeah. points UP. and the list ascends DOWNWARDS. :) Small things at the top. Big things at the bottom. Same way The Bat's arrows work... arrows. as i said, that's different from the triangles... Now I'm really confused. The triangles in The Bat! seem to work in the exact same way as they do in Windows Explorer (no arrows anywhere)... The tip of the triangle always points to the smallest item in the list. Personally, I just click a couple of times until things are in the right order. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. I wrote a program in Lisp once... it wrote back to me. pgphFWjmUfEKH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split
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~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 6 Mar 2006,
@ @ at 23:57:34 +, when MFPA wrote:
Peter Fjelsten wrote:
To me, vertical means top to bottom.
And to me, meaning that as you move from the top to the bottom the
screen is split into 3.
The splits are vertical when there are 3 columns.
That to me is a horizontal split: as you move from left to right
the screen is split.
I suspect neither of us will convince the other...
But if the wish is implemented, you could have a very high
preview pane doing away with scrolling is most instances.
You mean a full-height one? (!)
If we have a pizza nailed on a wall, when we cut it vertically we get
columns, and when we cut it horizontally we get rows.
A matter of science, graphical/descriptive/projective geometry, when we
are on Earth, in our usual position, standing on our legs, which end
with our feet.
If we though alter this standard referential point, then from the point
of say spider(wo)man, hanging from the ceiling with his/her head down
and legs up, we get inverse orientation, in terms of up-down and
left-right, although vertical-horizontal remains identical. When the
spider(wo)man stands though on a wall instead on the ceiling, and is
cutting the pizza nailed on the next wall, then we get what you
describe.
So, basically it depends on how computer and/or User are positioned in
the space, although Manuals/Mańuelas/Manuelit{a|o}s/Crusals/Gambals,
menus etc. are written from the standpoint of the standard position,
where the horizontal is the plane of trajectory of a moving plankton on
a still water surface, and the vertical is trajectory of a falling
brick, flowerpot or a grand piano, on a windless day/night.
The horizontal has value 0° and the vertical has value 90°, where the
referential point is the center of a nearest planet, or of a local body
influenced not by the field of gravitation of an other one.
***
I am in addition immensely enchanted that all the more are the requests,
and even given ear to, of a type like in MS Outlook regarding TB
development. It opens a new vision of another copy of Elvis happily
murmuring in a subtle shiver Mail me tender, mail me sweet..., leaving
the building of the former TB's integrity and originality.
It resembles irresistibly the efforts of creat{ion|ure} named
Evolution in the Linux world, although I lean, under handsomely
lurching angle, to believe that it's rather a matter of a godfather's
typo meaning Involution actually.
Anyway, it's interesting to watch now and then what happens in the
search of Oscar for Confusion. (-: :pop(ular)corns:
Yours in Muffet Show,
Statford
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Re: Wish: Two-rows for messages in Message List Pane like in MSOutlook useful in Horizontal split
Mica, On 07-03-2006 15:12, you [MM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MM I am in addition immensely enchanted that all the more are the MM requests, and even given ear to, of a type like in MS Outlook MM regarding TB development. It opens a new vision of another copy of MM Elvis happily murmuring in a subtle shiver Mail me tender, mail me MM sweet..., leaving the building of the former TB's integrity and MM originality. Hmm. What the wish is for is an _additional_ way of doing it, an a pretty good one at it, too. Not _everything_ MS does is bad, they do have a fairly large usability department. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.71.04 Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
