Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Saturday, January 22, 2000 at 13:02:07 GMT +0800 (which was 22/01/2000 12:02 GMT + 0700 my Local Time) you told to the list: Do I have to configure the ticker somewhere? SL No, turn on message list in the view folder (remember, it isn't SL view message) window. TF Latest on this (and closing statement): I've found this virutal TF folder, I *love* it, and have no idea how I ever lived without out TF it. Bye-bye preview pane. :-) Actually I do both since beginning using The Bat!. Preview pane to view *not priority* folder (or in thread mode if I want to see related message) and Ticker with "message List view" for *priority" message. -- - Syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Created : Saturday, January 22, 2000, 16:17:57 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hello Fred Weissman, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:09:18 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Friday, January 21, 2000, 9:09:18 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Fred Weissman wrote: Fred Has any thought been given to a feature (option?) whereby a message becomes Fred automatically marked as read once it has been replied to? Since mail that Fred has been replied to is (usually) read, having the system mark it as such Fred would save a keystroke or two. To me it seems to be a bug if replying to a msg DOESNT reset the incoming msg as read.,.. Fred I will often read through incoming mail quickly, and reply later. Fred Therefore, I have the account property 'time of reading to mark message as Fred read' set to a very high number (999). Basically, this prevents anything Fred from being marked if all I'm doing is reading it now with the intent of Fred replying later. If it's a low number, the message gets marked upon my Fred reading, and I have to unmark it. Fred Comments? Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hi Thomas, On 21 January 2000 at 18:06:18 GMT +0800 (which was 10:06 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: MDP (I think that's what you meant). TF Yes, it is. But I save the "drafts" (really only quotes) only if I TF think it will take a long time (having a lunch break in between, TF for exmaple); otherwise, I leave the messages open and click the TF Edit Mail Message things whneever I have a moment. I work from my laptop and never know when I may be distracted for long enough for the thing to want to go on standby and never come out of it :-((( (love that M$ coding - not), so my reflex is Ctrl-R, Alt-F2. Also, I'm currently getting at least 400 mails daily and often I sit down to wade through 100 new messages at one shot, so I always park my replies in case what I wanted to say has already been said further down the list. When I've finished reading, I can go to the OutBox and say the things that might still need saying. I couldn't survive without the ticker's virtual folder mechanism to group all that new email in created order and neatly threading across accounts / folders. I really find it hard to understand why so many folks here "hate that ticker" then bemoan the lack of virtual folders. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.39 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hallo Marck, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:51:34 + GMT (21.01.2000, 18:51 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP I couldn't survive without the ticker's virtual folder mechanism to MDP group all that new email in created order and neatly threading across MDP accounts / folders. I really find it hard to understand why so many MDP folks here "hate that ticker" then bemoan the lack of virtual folders. There is a difference between then ticker and the virtual folder: the latter gives you an overview of the messages rather than showing sequentially each header one at a time (or two, depending on how wide you have set the margins). You can also navigate around and decide which message you want to read first. You can park messages on the fly, you can do everything in a virutal folder that you can do in a real folder. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hi tracer, On 21 January 2000 at 18:15:07 GMT +0700 (which was 11:15 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: t So what about making it a box instead of a scrolling bar? I dislike t the scroll as I want to see more then one thing at the same time. t If essentially its a virtua; folder then lets get a FOLDER, not t tickerbar Okay, fair enough, you don't like it for what it is, but it *can* be resized to a negligible width, its' main purpose aside, and simply used as an indicator that there *is* unread mail. (Yeah, I know The Bat flies and that, but I can't see that on my laptop when the TaskBar is set for auto-hide). As for the ticker as a ticker - IMHO it's irrelevant. As would be a boxed list of messages. I find it impossible to use it for pinpointing a start place for message reading or, with 100+ messages per sitting, as an overview of what message are there - I merely use it as a route to the indispensable virtual folder that is its' underlying technology. My point is that a double-click on it then takes you straight into the very virtual folder that so many people say they want. That folder contains all current unread messages in a format such that you can go to the top of the list of them and keep pressing space bar to read your way to the bottom. No folder hopping. No weird Ctrl key-presses for navigating (apart from, perhaps, Ctrl-* to open all threads to start with). -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.39 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hi Thomas, On 21 January 2000 at 21:40:58 GMT +0800 (which was 13:40 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: MDP I couldn't survive without the ticker's virtual folder mechanism MDP to group all that new email in created order and neatly MDP threading across accounts / folders. I really find it hard to MDP understand why so many folks here "hate that ticker" then bemoan MDP the lack of virtual folders. TF There is a difference between then ticker and the virtual folder: TF the latter gives you an overview of the messages rather than TF showing sequentially each header one at a time (or two, depending TF on how wide you have set the margins). You can also navigate TF around and decide which message you want to read first. You can TF park messages on the fly, you can do everything in a virutal TF folder that you can do in a real folder. See my reply to tracer. The ticker is just a "silly window" (no offence Max/Stef) which provides an access point to the actual virtual folder you describe. Why request a feature that already exists? Don't let the ticker put you off - check out the virtual folder behind it. Use it. Enjoy. It is a true wonder. I kid ye not -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.39 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Fwd: Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
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Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:06:09 +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: As for the ticker as a ticker - IMHO it's irrelevant. As would be a boxed list of messages. I find it impossible to use it for pinpointing a start place for message reading or, with 100+ messages per sitting, as an overview of what message are there - I merely use it as a route to the indispensable virtual folder that is its' underlying technology. My point is that a double-click on it then takes you straight into the very virtual folder that so many people say they want. Cripes! I didn't realize this since I keep (view message list) for the 'view folder' windows disabled. Thanks much. I'll certainly be using it. -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- [ Software Independent: Won't work with ANY software. ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hallo Marck, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:20:14 + GMT (21.01.2000, 22:20 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP See my reply to tracer. The ticker is just a "silly window" (no MDP offence Max/Stef) which provides an access point to the actual virtual MDP folder you describe. Why request a feature that already exists? Don't MDP let the ticker put you off - check out the virtual folder behind it. MDP Use it. Enjoy. It is a true wonder. I kid ye not I jsut tried it by randomly sending 7 messages to myself *and by mistake to the list as well, my apologies to all!, but my ticker is just a ticker. I don't have a virtual folder behind it. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hi Thomas, On 21 January 2000 at 22:23:46 GMT +0800 (which was 14:23 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: TF I jsut tried it by randomly sending 7 messages to myself *and TF by mistake to the list as well, my apologies to all!, but TF my ticker is just a ticker. I don't have a virtual folder behind TF it. :-( If you double click on the ticker, the virtual folder opens in all its' glory. Allie found it. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.39 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:23:46 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I jsut tried it by randomly sending 7 messages to myself *and by mistake to the list as well, my apologies to all!, but my ticker is just a ticker. I don't have a virtual folder behind it. :-( :))) Instead of sending yourself messages and tying up your mail server among other mishaps, you may generate some unread messages by going through a few folders, selecting a couple messages, and marking them as unread. Your ticker should come to life now, showing the various messages in their various folders. Now double click on any of the messages displayed in the ticker. A view folder window will popup. Go the View|Message list and you'll see that this View Folder window is actually a virtual folder view, listing all messages being displayed by the ticker. -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- [ Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hallo Allie, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:17:50 -0500 GMT (22.01.2000, 00:17 +0800 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM Instead of sending yourself messages and tying up your mail server AM among other mishaps, you may generate some unread messages by going AM through a few folders, selecting a couple messages, and marking them as AM unread. Stupid me. And I thought unread message are messages that I hadn't read. Thanks for brining me back to earth. ;-) AM Your ticker should come to life now, showing the various messages AM in their various folders. AM Now double click on any of the messages displayed in the ticker. A AM view folder window will popup. Go the View|Message list Aha! That's it! Works! :-))) (I stopped at "a view folder will pop up", didn't think of the next step). AM and you'll see that this View Folder window is actually a virtual AM folder view, listing all messages being displayed by the ticker. Beautiful. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hi Thomas,
On 21 January 2000 at 23:56:50 GMT +0800 (which was 15:56 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
TF I tried again and failed. :-(. When I double-click on the ticker,
TF one message will be shown as View Folder (full screen). With all
TF headers ("kludges") even though I do not have it enabled. No
TF message-list style summary. I tried it with both Message Autoview
TF ON and OFF. No difference.
TF Do I have to configure the ticker somewhere?
No, but you do have to have View / Message List enabled. It is a
virtual folder with its' own configuration memory, so you can toggle
Kludges off and turn message list on, etc. to configure it to your
taste. Without the message list, it doesn't make much sense.
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Re[2]: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:23:46 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, January 21, 2000, 9:23:46 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thomas I jsut tried it by randomly sending 7 messages to myself *and by Thomas mistake to the list as well, my apologies to all!, but my Thomas ticker is just a ticker. I don't have a virtual folder behind it. :-( I donot see it either Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Friday, January 21, 2000, 7:56:50 AM, Thomas wrote: Do I have to configure the ticker somewhere? No, turn on message list in the view folder (remember, it isn't view message) window. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Thursday, January 20, 2000, 7:51:44 PM, Thomas wrote: There was also a discussion about an adiitional flag, "seen" (as opposed ot new or read), with which messages could be marked that need relpies. I haven't heard whether this will be available in v2, but think not. This is done somewhat in elm and, IIRC, mutt as well where messages are "old" when left unread between different sessions. *shrug* -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hallo Steve et al, On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:26:34 -0800 GMT (22.01.2000, 01:26 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: Do I have to configure the ticker somewhere? SL No, turn on message list in the view folder (remember, it isn't view SL message) window. Latest on this (and closing statement): I've found this virutal folder, I *love* it, and have no idea how I ever lived without out it. Bye-bye preview pane. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:02:07 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: [..snip..] SL No, turn on message list in the view folder (remember, it isn't view SL message) window. Latest on this (and closing statement): I've found this virutal folder, I *love* it, and have no idea how I ever lived without out it. Bye-bye preview pane. :-) Welcome Thomas. Believe me, you'll find more joy in using the View Folder method of going through mail. The preview pane seems to cause more problems than good. :) -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.39 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- [ (A)bort, (R)etry, (S)elf-destruct? ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Wish List - Marked Read Feature
Hi Fred, On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:09:18 -0500GMT (21/01/2000, 10:09 +0800GMT), Fred Weissman wrote: FW I will often read through incoming mail quickly, and reply later. FW Therefore, I have the account property 'time of reading to mark message as FW read' set to a very high number (999). Basically, this prevents anything FW from being marked if all I'm doing is reading it now with the intent of FW replying later. You have basically disabled the function of marking messages as "read" when you "read" them. While I also scan (or even read) all messages before starting to actually reply, I hit "reply" on each message that I want to reply to later. Meanwhile, time to mark message as read is at 0 (zero). There was also a discussion about an adiitional flag, "seen" (as opposed ot new or read), with which messages could be marked that need relpies. I haven't heard whether this will be available in v2, but think not. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
