Re: Wishlist: Macros to be run when sending

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Thomas,

On Monday, July 16, 2001 at 8:12:55 AM you wrote (at least in part):

TF> Do you mean characters or bytes? Chinese characters are two bytes
TF> long.

*ahhh* see .. another point I forgot in my reply why it's hard to define the
usuability of the wished functionality, thx ... :-)
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Re: Wishlist: Macros to be run when sending

[Thomas F]

Hi Eduard,

On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:11:41 +0200GMT (16/07/2001, 01:11 +0800GMT),
Eduard Fabra wrote:

EF> Or another one for counting the characters of the message just
EF> sent.

Do you mean characters or bytes? Chinese characters are two bytes
long.

Which, by the way, is something that annoys me about the Connection
Center: the speed is in apparently CPS, but reallly in BPS (bytes per
second). This is a difference for all languages with a DBCS
(double-byte character set), namely CJK (Chinese-Japanese-Korean).

I please for a bit more Asia-awareness. Thanks.

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Re: Wishlist: Macros to be run when sending

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Eduard,

On Sunday, July 15, 2001 at 7:11:41 PM you wrote:

EF> For example, a macro for inserting the time of completion of a message.

*hmmm * What about a QuickTemplate called 'date' with content
"%DATESHORT %TIMELONG"
??? So you'll be able to type in 'date' plus +Spacebar and the current
date / time gets inserted :-)

EF> Or another one for counting the characters of the message just sent.

*hmmm* dunno a way to do this right know, but this idea leads me to a
philosophic question: the number of characters in the message, should that
contain only characters in text part and ignore 'multipart' parts and
attachments? What are 'only text' parts? Theoretically it's possible to have
multiple text-parts in a message. What about text/plain attachments? Count
too?
And the most philosophic question: 'count of characters in the message' WITH
the characters that represent the count or without?

E.g.: Message contains only "Hello" -> char count is: 5
Adding a line "This message contains 5 characters" make the message contain 39
characters (incl. spaces) plus 1 or two invisible characters, the line ends
... This is something recursive, because the '5' would turn to 39 what would
make the message 1 more character, so it must be 40 ... You see my problem?

What could make sense is an additional header "SIZE" or "CONTENT-LENGHT" that
represents the size of the message in bytes ... but as my POP-Toaster
calculates the size of a message by it's own and I can check it in the message
list or while dispatching mail where's no real need of that for me.

Last point that comes to my mind right now is: what about PGP/SMIME signing?
If this content becomes inserted before the sign is done I could do it
manually / by QT, if it should be added automatically after TB! _recognizes_ I
send the message it _must_ be _after_ signing, and that would destroy the
signature ... So all in all I don't think it's agood idea and worse the work
and time to implement such think, but nevertheless: nice idea, it show's
TB!-users _think_ about their product and not just use it as dumb users :-)

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Re: Wishlist: Macros to be run when sending

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Eduard,

Historians believe that Sun, 15 Jul 2001 at 19:11 GMT +0200 was when,
Eduard Fabra [EF] typed the following:

EF> Wouldn't it be nice to have some macros run when
EF> you send or put your message in the outbox?

That could be interesting, but I don't really see how it could be
implemented.  If TB evaluated any macros in your text after sending,
then you wouldn't be sure what it was you were sending.  For example,
suppose we were talking about the %DATE macro.  How would TB know that
I wanted the string "%DATE" and not the actual date inserted?

I suppose there could be a slightly different syntax to the original
template for the delayed ones.  Perhaps %MACRO could refer to macros
that are to be evaluated now, and $MACRO could refer to macros that
are to be evaluated on sending.  But again, how would TB's editor
display the information to be evaluated?

EF> Would that be very difficult to implement?

I think so.  See above.

EF> How would you like it? Any other ideas for useful ones?

It is an interesting idea, but perhaps it would be better to have
outgoing filters that could affect the messages before sending the
message.  You could use such a filter to modify your text as you
suggested.

EF> Before sending this suggestion to RitLabs, I'd like to know I'm
EF> not talking nonsense.

You should send it in.  RITLabs has been known to come up with far
better implementations than any of the list members could expect.

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Wishlist: Macros to be run when sending

[Eduard Fabra]

[18:25 in Palma, Spain, on Sunday, July 15, 2001]

Hi!

Wouldn't it be nice to have some macros run when
you send or put your message in the outbox? For
example, a macro for inserting the time of
completion of a message. Or another one for
counting the characters of the message just sent.
Would that be very difficult to implement? How
would you like it? Any other ideas for useful
ones? Before sending this suggestion to RitLabs,
I'd like to know I'm not talking nonsense.

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