Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Nick!

On Saturday, July 21, 2001 at 3:31:46 PM you wrote:

NA> Can someone enlighten us on just what is meant by "Bind attachments
NA> only while sending out mail"?

Very easy: If you check this TB! uses the original file and only at
sending will put together the complete mail.

If you uncheck it, TB! creates a copy of the file in your specified
directory.



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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Nick Andriash]

On July 19, 2001, at 11:09:47 PM -0700, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> Beware, beware! I did it like that for months till I noticed that
> deleting the "attachment" from the mail - either by hand or through
> automatic trashing - you *lose the actual file*.

Dierk, I'm not finding that I also lose the message if I just delete
the attachment by right clicking the attachment icon and choose
'delete. The whole problem is that there is nothing in the Help File
on this 'feature', and the syntax is misleading and confusing.

Can someone enlighten us on just what is meant by "Bind attachments
only while sending out mail"?

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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Januk!

On Friday, July 20, 2001 at 9:46:42 PM you wrote:

> What are your settings under:
>  Account -> Properties -> Files and Directories?

There was a mail where I wrote about it.

After testing and finding this problem it is set to:

  Store in separate directory
  Delete when Trash is emptied

Before (and what I'd like to do):

   Delete when Trash is emptied
   Bind attachments only while sending



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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Dierk,

Historians believe that Fri, 20 Jul 2001 at 14:53 GMT +0200 was when,
Dierk Haasis [DH] typed the following:

DH> Well, the best would be if TB! let's us bind attachments only at
DH> sending (as it is now), but would *not* delete the actual file while
DH> deleting the displayed link in the message.

What are your settings under:
 Account -> Properties -> Files and Directories?

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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Dierk!

On Friday, July 20, 2001 at 3:09:28 PM you wrote:

> I just had a look in the Properties. You have the possibility to check
> "Bind attachments while sending" *and* "Delete attachment when message
> is deleted from Trash". They should definitely be mutually exclusive.
> I will test during the afternoon if it changes anything to have the
> last option checked or not.

Faster than I thought.

1. The original file gets deleted when binding while sending is
checked, *and* you want to remove the attachment! Always, regardless
what you set the other option to.

2. If you put the whole message into the Trash and it gets emptied you
will lose the file only, when you check both options.

This makes the bug much more vicious, since you can now lose important
files while you still compose an important message. And you may only
stumble upon the problem by coincidence, as I did.

It could be fixed very easy, I think, just don't allow TB! to delete
the original file when "Bind while sending" is checked - never!

The option to delete the attachment when Trash is emptied should only
apply when you use the special directory option!



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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Gerry!

On Friday, July 20, 2001 at 2:35:20 PM you wrote:

> Now, I did not select just the attachment icon and deleted that. I
> just deleted the whole message.

> Did I perform the same steps as you did to duplicate this bug?

No. The mail I found this bug with was one of the few important ones
to save. But I didn't need the attachment in it as I had it in my
directory concerning movie and TV scripts. So I just deleted the
attachment from the mail.

I just had a look in the Properties. You have the possibility to check
"Bind attachments while sending" *and* "Delete attachment when message
is deleted from Trash". They should definitely be mutually exclusive.
I will test during the afternoon if it changes anything to have the
last option checked or not.



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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Roman!

On Friday, July 20, 2001 at 12:32:39 PM you wrote:

> Isn't that worth a bug report?

I filed it in last week.

> I find TBs habit of accumulating copies of attached files really annoying
> aswell, so I'd appreciate it handling atachments like other mail programs
> (take Eudora for example).

Well, the best would be if TB! let's us bind attachments only at
sending (as it is now), but would *not* delete the actual file while
deleting the displayed link in the message.

Much better than to think for yourself "Oh, I don't have to - and
shouldn't at all costs - delete the file in the message, as it is not
there slowing down performance or grabbing disk space."

>> So, I'm back to TB!'s default and once in a while a little hand job.

> Interesting, but does this belong on this list? ;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist this little joke, especially since TB! had
chosen one of my favourite lines about German humour for the tag line.

Odd, why did you find it interesting?! ;-)




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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Gerry Doyon]

 
Hello Dierk,

Friday, July 20, 2001, 2:09:47 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes. Go to your account properties, under the File &
>> Directories menu, and cross "Bind attachments only while
>> sending out mail". Done!

DH> Beware, beware! I did it like that for months till I noticed that
DH> deleting the "attachment" from the mail - either by hand or through
DH> automatic trashing - you *lose the actual file*.

I have enabled the "Bind attachments" option and have not had any
message deleted.

I tested it on my system this way:

1. Created a new outgoing message and attached a file.
2. Sent the message.
3. I went in to the Sent folder and deleted the message I sent
   previously with the attachment.
4. Went to the directory where I selected my attached file and it was
   still there.

Now, I did not select just the attachment icon and deleted that. I
just deleted the whole message.

Did I perform the same steps as you did to duplicate this bug?

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Re[2]: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Roman]

On Friday, July 20, 2001, 08:09:47, Dierk Haasis wrote:
> Beware, beware! I did it like that for months till I noticed that
> deleting the "attachment" from the mail - either by hand or through
> automatic trashing - you *lose the actual file*.

Isn't that worth a bug report?
I find TBs habit of accumulating copies of attached files really annoying
aswell, so I'd appreciate it handling atachments like other mail programs
(take Eudora for example).

> So, I'm back to TB!'s default and once in a while a little hand job.

Interesting, but does this belong on this list? ;-)

Roman


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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Karin!

On Friday, July 20, 2001 at 3:58:30 AM you wrote:

> Yes. Go to your account properties, under the File &
> Directories menu, and cross "Bind attachments only while
> sending out mail". Done!

Beware, beware! I did it like that for months till I noticed that
deleting the "attachment" from the mail - either by hand or through
automatic trashing - you *lose the actual file*.

It created a very embarrassing situation with a TV studio I sent a
treatment to and have to ask for a copy after realising that TB! had
deleted the original file.

So, I'm back to TB!'s default and once in a while a little hand job.


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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Nick Andriash]

On July 19, 2001, at 6:58:30 PM -0700, Karin Spaink wrote:

> Yes. Go to your account properties, under the File & Directories
> menu, and cross "Bind attachments only while sending out mail".
> Done!

What do you mean by "cross"? Check or uncheck?

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Re: altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Karin Spaink]

On 19-07-2001 at 23:15, Charlie Laidlaw kindly wrote:

> Is it possible to make it not store _any_ copies in the attachments
> directory, but just use the photo in its original location (my photos
> folder)?
> Or  is it possible to just stop this duplication, so if the same photo
> is sent out in several posts, only one copy is stored?

Yes. Go to your account properties, under the File &
Directories menu, and cross "Bind attachments only while
sending out mail". Done!


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altering how the Bat! stores attachments?

[Charlie Laidlaw]

i  looked in my attachments directory, and i see that if i've sent out
the  same photo in several different posts, theBat! is storing another
copy each time, adding 1/2/3...

Is it possible to make it not store _any_ copies in the attachments
directory, but just use the photo in its original location (my photos
folder)?

Or  is it possible to just stop this duplication, so if the same photo
is sent out in several posts, only one copy is stored?

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