Re: threading by ref _and_ subject
17-Jun-2003 07:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The References can't contain ANY references - WL wrote that there was > no References included. Correct. I was just explaining the difference. > As long as the message, with the MID equal to the MID in the I-R-T, > exists in the same folder, it will thread. Correct. And if you have a message created with an email client that strips the "References" (and only leaves the "In-Reply-To" Header) in your Inbox, then reply to that message (reply is stored in Sent Mail folder), and get a (header-crippled) reply on your reply, that new reply will not be threaded with the first message you got, since the message that I-R-T points to is not in the same folder. I believe that can be explained much easier. I sometimes wish english was my native language. :-) -- Best regards, neurowerx (http://www.neurowerx.de) History is a thin garment, easily punctured by a knifeblade called now. -- Graham Swift Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading by ref _and_ subject
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neurowerx, [N] wrote: N> That depends. The "References" header may contain multiple N> references, the "In-Reply-To" header contains only the last N> reference. N> If you use threading by references in your inbox (while the mails you N> wrote are in your outbox), none of the replies you get will be N> threaded If I'm understanding what you're saying then this isn't true. N> (since the mail that is replied to is not in the same folder) TB! uses both the 'In-Reply-To' and 'References' headers for threading. The 'In-Reply-To' header is used to assist with threading one message directly with another in terms of one being a direct reply to another. If the In-Reply-To header doesn't match, then the 'References' header is used. I have folders where the reply messages aren't with the originals and the originals thread by themselves. N> if the mailer of "the other" doesn't set "References" header (which N> is quite logic to me and I don't see what TB! could do about it). If there is no 'References' header, then threading by references would be extremely fragile, in that as soon as you delete a message within the thread, the thread falls apart. This was an issue with the very early TB! versions and was fixed a long time ago by not only including the 'References' header, but also letting that header store up to, I think, the messageid's for the last 6 messages in the thread. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPu7svFfJ62ArBxfiEQILtACePYqmz533k0xl2wi3kUseEvE91t4AoJJs nJLpMR7pAoBCuU5UtDXM/6Lv =7+8+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading by ref _and_ subject
On Tue 17-Jun-03 12:53am -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 16-Jun-2003 23:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Mon 16-Jun-03 5:23pm -0400, WL wrote: >>> In a similar vein, some sofware doesn't use references; >>> instead, they use In-reply-to. Can that be used for >>> threading? >> I believe that's already handled. > That depends. The "References" header may contain multiple references, the > "In-Reply-To" header contains only the last reference. The References can't contain ANY references - WL wrote that there was no References included. As long as the message, with the MID equal to the MID in the I-R-T, exists in the same folder, it will thread. -- Best regards, Bill "The careful student of history will discover that Christianity has been of very little value in advancing civilization, but has done a great deal toward retarding it." [Matilda Joslyn Gage, "Woman, Church and State", 1893] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading by ref _and_ subject
16-Jun-2003 23:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> In a similar vein, some sofware doesn't use references; >> instead, they use In-reply-to. Can that be used for >> threading? > I believe that's already handled. That depends. The "References" header may contain multiple references, the "In-Reply-To" header contains only the last reference. If you use threading by references in your inbox (while the mails you wrote are in your outbox), none of the replies you get will be threaded (since the mail that is replied to is not in the same folder) if the mailer of "the other" doesn't set "References" header (which is quite logic to me and I don't see what TB! could do about it). -- Best regards, neurowerx (http://www.neurowerx.de) How many of our daydreams would darken into nightmares if there seemed any danger of their coming true? -- Logan Pearsall Smith Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading by ref _and_ subject
On Mon 16-Jun-03 5:23pm -0400, WL wrote: > ooh..look at me...I'm using folder templates :) > Anyways, I usually have my email sorted w/ threads. > Unfortunately, some webmail software doesn't use the > references header, so threads break. I can switch > back and forth between references and subject based > threading, but it would be nice if I can have TB use > references (if available), then by subject. Is this > possible? Yes, that's how it should work. Most newsreaders do this or permit this as an option. > In a similar vein, some sofware doesn't use references; > instead, they use In-reply-to. Can that be used for > threading? I believe that's already handled. -- Best regards, Bill Saint: A dead sinner revised and edited. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary, 1911] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: threading by ref _and_ subject
Hello all, Monday, June 16, 2003, WL wrote: > ooh..look at me...I'm using folder templates :) > Anyways, I usually have my email sorted w/ threads. > Unfortunately, some webmail software doesn't use the > references header, so threads break. I can switch > back and forth between references and subject based > threading, but it would be nice if I can have TB use > references (if available), then by subject. Is this > possible? no, but developers plan this feature. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
threading by ref _and_ subject
ooh..look at me...I'm using folder templates :) Anyways, I usually have my email sorted w/ threads. Unfortunately, some webmail software doesn't use the references header, so threads break. I can switch back and forth between references and subject based threading, but it would be nice if I can have TB use references (if available), then by subject. Is this possible? In a similar vein, some sofware doesn't use references; instead, they use In-reply-to. Can that be used for threading? WL Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
