Re: [TCP] [stclwrsig-l] Justifying STC

2008-03-21 Thread John Posada
Then let's look at it from a different perspective...it is in your chapter's
best interest that you join. Aside from the rebate, every chapter officer
takes pride in their chapter and is proud when it grows. If you aren't doing
it for yourself, do it for your chapter, which, as you say,is giving you
everything you need from the association.

If everyone felt the way you do, your chapter would be dissolved.


On 3/20/08, Sue Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can still receive almost all benefits that a chapter provides without
 having to belong to the organization. There is a huge difference between
 joining STC, the org, and attending local chapter events.

 BTW, when I was active in my local chapter, we had almost everything
 you've mentioned except for the second meeting of the month. And when I was
 VP of membership, I did contact those who were late to renew to remind them
 (and to find out why, if they weren't). I'd bet the reasons then (several
 years ago) and the reasons now are still much the same... not enough value
 for the money. While $175 isn't a lot of money, it IS a lot of money if you
 don't get anything for it.Or perceive you don't. Which is much the same
 thing.

 ...sue


 John Posada
 Senior Technical Writer
 NYMetro STC President and Program Chair

 - Said the Zen master to the hot dog vendor Make me one with everything.


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Re: [TCP] [stclwrsig-l] Justifying STC

2008-03-21 Thread Sue Heim
Therein lies the problem... I've seen far too many chapter presidents do it
for yourself. The local chapter here has lost members. Several years ago we
had over 300 members and used to get something like 60-70 members at dinner
meetings. Now, there is about half that number in membership and
considerably less than half the number attend meetings.

If you could joni locally withoiut having to join the national organization,
I'd reconsider. But I don't have a local chapter that I'd want to join
anyways, so I guess it's a moot point.

...sue



On 3/21/08, John Posada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Then let's look at it from a different perspective...it is in your
 chapter's best interest that you join. Aside from the rebate, every chapter
 officer takes pride in their chapter and is proud when it grows. If you
 aren't doing it for yourself, do it for your chapter, which, as you say,is
 giving you everything you need from the association.

 If everyone felt the way you do, your chapter would be dissolved.


 On 3/20/08, Sue Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You can still receive almost all benefits that a chapter provides
  without having to belong to the organization. There is a huge difference
  between joining STC, the org, and attending local chapter events.
 
  BTW, when I was active in my local chapter, we had almost everything
  you've mentioned except for the second meeting of the month. And when I was
  VP of membership, I did contact those who were late to renew to remind them
  (and to find out why, if they weren't). I'd bet the reasons then (several
  years ago) and the reasons now are still much the same... not enough value
  for the money. While $175 isn't a lot of money, it IS a lot of money if you
  don't get anything for it.Or perceive you don't. Which is much the
  same thing.
 
  ...sue
 
 
 
  John Posada
  Senior Technical Writer
  NYMetro STC President and Program Chair
 
  - Said the Zen master to the hot dog vendor Make me one with
  everything.


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Re: [TCP] [stclwrsig-l] Justifying STC

2008-03-21 Thread John Posada
On 3/21/08, Sue Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Therein lies the problem... I've seen far too many chapter presidents do
 it for yourself. The local chapter here has lost members. Several years
 ago we had over 300 members and used to get something like 60-70 members at
 dinner meetings. Now, there is about half that number in membership and
 considerably less than half the number attend meetings.


There's nothing wrong with the chapter board wanting to be proud of their
chapter. In addition, the larger a chapter, the more they have the ability
to weather random goofs. Sometimes you pick a program that dispite all good
intentions, falls flat. Size also gives you the ability to take chances. If
you are small, with a small checking account, a loss can be damaging. The
larger you are, the better you are able to recover.

I've been trying alot of things...some are success and some failure.
However, in EVERY effort, my mantra has been that anything we do is in the
members best interest. For instance. The society is offering four free
conference registrations for the chapter in each category who can get the
highest percentage of renewals. We happen to be in second place in the
second to largest category. If we win? The four packages get raffled to the
membership, and most don't even knowit yet, even though I had to get my
company to allow me to expense part of the trip, the chaptrer part, and me
part (BTW, our chapter last year paid the whole thing for the Pres, but if I
can take part of the load off the chaprter, more left over for the
membership). We could have applied it to the board, but I thought my
membership woulod appreciate it.

However, a chapter is handcuffed from trying new things when they don't see
the support from the people they are trying to serve, and the best indicaror
is membership.

  If you could join locally withoiut having to join the national
organization, I'd reconsider.

BTW...there is nothing from stopping a chapter from doing that and we are
considering it starting next Sept.

John Posada
NYMetroSTC President
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