Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-13 Thread Martinek, Carla
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Mike Starr wrote: 
I've embraced stagnation since I love being a technical writer and
really have no desire to do anything else for a living. I'm always
learning new things, get to play with stuff, I've had the privilege of
working with some absolutely amazing people (many of whom I've stayed
friends with years after we left the company we both worked for) and
have the luxury of being able to see tangible results of my work. I've
found my niche.
-


Hooray for you, Mike!  I'm in the same boat.  I love what I do, and
currently, I have no immediate plans to do anything else.  Maybe,
someday, I might want to manage.  Maybe.  It's not a driving urge.  I'm
more likely to go independent if anything.

Too many companies are mired in the advance or die mentality (like
academia is publish or die).  Some managers/companies just can't get
their head around someone saying, I like what I do.  I see myself still
doing this 10 years down the road.  I don't want to be the CEO of the
company.  They completely zone out on the I want to learn new skills,
etc. that will increase my knowledge and help me do this job even
better.

Fortunately, I'm in a position now where the I'm happy doing what I'm
doing attitude doesn't seem to be a hindrance.  I recently got promoted
(they had to create a senior version of my job to do it), and my
manager encourages me to learn and try new things, and share with the
rest of the department what I find to be useful and helpful.  This is
about as close to a perfect job as I've ever had.  If I didn't have a
45-60 minute commute each way, it would be perfect.  :-)

-Carla
 
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Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-13 Thread Mike Starr
I just left a contract assignment that was my ideal position... it was just 
me and three programmers. That was the whole company. However, the company 
itself is owned by a larger company that controls its sales efforts and 
mother company thoughtfully doubled prices for this year so sales bottomed 
out. No sales--no technical writer. I was there for a year and doing great 
work. I had a wonderful time and they love me. If they were actually making 
new sales, they'd have kept me on and probably offered me a staff position. 
I'm pretty sure when things pick up they'll want me back. It was 20 minutes 
from home, they listened to my ideas and for the most part accepted them.

I've been with companies where clawing your way up the corporate ladder was 
de rigueur and that's not my thing. Corporate life isn't for me... give me a 
tiny company with a cool product and I'll thrive there.

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Subject: Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

 -Original Message-
 Mike Starr wrote:
 I've embraced stagnation since I love being a technical writer and
 really have no desire to do anything else for a living. I'm always
 learning new things, get to play with stuff, I've had the privilege of
 working with some absolutely amazing people (many of whom I've stayed
 friends with years after we left the company we both worked for) and
 have the luxury of being able to see tangible results of my work. I've
 found my niche.
 -


 Hooray for you, Mike!  I'm in the same boat.  I love what I do, and
 currently, I have no immediate plans to do anything else.  Maybe,
 someday, I might want to manage.  Maybe.  It's not a driving urge.  I'm
 more likely to go independent if anything.

 Too many companies are mired in the advance or die mentality (like
 academia is publish or die).  Some managers/companies just can't get
 their head around someone saying, I like what I do.  I see myself still
 doing this 10 years down the road.  I don't want to be the CEO of the
 company.  They completely zone out on the I want to learn new skills,
 etc. that will increase my knowledge and help me do this job even
 better.

 Fortunately, I'm in a position now where the I'm happy doing what I'm
 doing attitude doesn't seem to be a hindrance.  I recently got promoted
 (they had to create a senior version of my job to do it), and my
 manager encourages me to learn and try new things, and share with the
 rest of the department what I find to be useful and helpful.  This is
 about as close to a perfect job as I've ever had.  If I didn't have a
 45-60 minute commute each way, it would be perfect.  :-)

 -Carla 


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Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-13 Thread Brierley, Sean
A good manager trains their replacement; it's the right thing to do for
the company.

A bad manager does everything in secret.

So, good thoughts, yeah!

Cheers,

Sean 

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From: Bill Swallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I put down career path info that makes my boss fearful for his/her job.
;-)

Seriously, I'm not on a technical track these days. I know where I want
to be and what I need to get there, and I put those next-level learning
opportunities in my objectives. It makes some managers sweat but others
truly embrace it. Usually the ones who embrace thee objectives do so
because they're doing the same thing to their boss.
;-)

Growth vs. stagnation... any good manager knows there's more value in
the former than the latter, and any good manager is NOT fearful for
their job. They have no reason to be.

On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For example, becoming more technically familiar with our products, 
 with the goal of becoming an SME.

 What do you put as objectives for your career for your employer when 
 doing a self evaluation for an annual review?


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[TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
For example, becoming more technically familiar with our products, with
the goal of becoming an SME.

What do you put as objectives for your career for your employer when
doing a self evaluation for an annual review?

Cheers.


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Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-12 Thread Sue Heim
I put things like stay current in the field and explore new technologies
and attend conferences to do those things. I include design and usability
objectives. I do not include getting a degree. :)

...sue


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 For example, becoming more technically familiar with our products, with
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 What do you put as objectives for your career for your employer when
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 Cheers.


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Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-12 Thread Brierley, Sean
Fair enough.
 
Conferences are not an option; there's no measurable ROI, I believe.
 
Why do you not explore new technologies as part of graduate coursework?
Is planning your coursework towards one larger goal, a degree, a bad
thing? Must education be self contained, only worthwhile when considered
in isolation from other education? I wonder  Anyway, I use the new
technologies one, yeah.
 
Stay current in the field is nice. I'm on lists, too. And in the STC.
Etc. Is staying current growing? I use that one.
 
Cheers,
 
Sean



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I put things like stay current in the field and explore new
technologies and attend conferences to do those things. I include
design and usability objectives. I do not include getting a degree. :) 


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Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-12 Thread Bill Swallow
I put down career path info that makes my boss fearful for his/her job. ;-)

Seriously, I'm not on a technical track these days. I know where I
want to be and what I need to get there, and I put those next-level
learning opportunities in my objectives. It makes some managers sweat
but others truly embrace it. Usually the ones who embrace thee
objectives do so because they're doing the same thing to their boss.
;-)

Growth vs. stagnation... any good manager knows there's more value in
the former than the latter, and any good manager is NOT fearful for
their job. They have no reason to be.

On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For example, becoming more technically familiar with our products, with
 the goal of becoming an SME.

 What do you put as objectives for your career for your employer when
 doing a self evaluation for an annual review?

-- 
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Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-12 Thread Wade Courtney
Usually, it doesn't matter what I put. Either I leave the company, the
company folds, or the people who made me put my goals down get laid off or
canned.

W

On 6/12/07, Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I put down career path info that makes my boss fearful for his/her job.
 ;-)

 Seriously, I'm not on a technical track these days. I know where I
 want to be and what I need to get there, and I put those next-level
 learning opportunities in my objectives. It makes some managers sweat
 but others truly embrace it. Usually the ones who embrace thee
 objectives do so because they're doing the same thing to their boss.
 ;-)

 Growth vs. stagnation... any good manager knows there's more value in
 the former than the latter, and any good manager is NOT fearful for
 their job. They have no reason to be.

 On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For example, becoming more technically familiar with our products, with
  the goal of becoming an SME.
 
  What do you put as objectives for your career for your employer when
  doing a self evaluation for an annual review?

 --
 Bill Swallow
 HATT List Owner
 WWP-Users List Owner
 Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
 STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
 http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
 avid homebrewer and proud beer snob
 I see your OOO message and raise you a clue.

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Re: [TCP] self evaluation objectives, what do *you* put?

2007-06-12 Thread John Garison
As the old saying goes, you can't be promoted unless there's someone in 
the wings ready, willing, and able to take your position. I ALWAYS look 
for someone to groom as a successor ... sometimes they succeed inside 
the company, sometimes outside. And I always let me boss know I'm 
available for something else that might open up ... and my department 
will be taken care of if it happens.

My 2ยข,

John G



Bill Swallow wrote:
 I put down career path info that makes my boss fearful for his/her job. ;-)

 Seriously, I'm not on a technical track these days. I know where I
 want to be and what I need to get there, and I put those next-level
 learning opportunities in my objectives. It makes some managers sweat
 but others truly embrace it. Usually the ones who embrace thee
 objectives do so because they're doing the same thing to their boss.
 ;-)
   

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