Re: [tcpdump-workers] Decoding the unencrypted part(s) of SSL/TLS?

2012-12-13 Thread Wesley Shields
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:38:29PM -0500, Michael Richardson wrote:
 
  Rick == Rick Jones rick.jon...@hp.com writes:
 Rick Is there a version of tcpdump in the works which will decode
 Rick the unecrypted 
 Rick portions of an SSL/TLS session?  Or do I need to look
 Rick elsewhere?

Are you asking if there is a decoder for the SSL/TLS handshakes or are
you asking if there is something that will, given a private key, decrypt
the SSL?

 Yes/no.
 You have, in general, to do TCP reassembly as TLS blocks might span TCP
 segments. 
 
 Fortunately, you can use: http://www.rtfm.com/ssldump/
 to do exactly that.

There are some problems with ssldump when building on newer-ish systems
(at least I think there were last time I tried to use it). If you can
get it to work it is good.

 It takes pcap files.  It even decrypts if you give it the keys.

Another option is to use tshark. I'm not a fan of it but it does work in
a pinch.

-- WXS
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Re: [tcpdump-workers] vlan tagged packets and libpcap breakage

2012-12-13 Thread Daniel Borkmann

On 12/12/2012 10:53 PM, Ani Sinha wrote:

unsigned int netdev_8021q_inskb = 1;

...
{
.ctl_name   = NET_CORE_8021q_INSKB,
.procname   = netdev_8021q_inskb,
.data   = netdev_8021q_inskb,
.maxlen = sizeof(int),
.mode   = 0444,
.proc_handler   = proc_dointvec
},

would seem to do it to me.
Then pcap can fopen(/proc/sys/net/core/netdev_8021q_inskb) and if it
finds it, and it is 0, then do the cmsg thing.



Does this work? This is just an experimental patch and by no means final.
I just want to have an idea what everyone thought about it. Once we debate
and discusss, I can cook up a final patch that would be worth commiting.

Also instead of having this /proc interface, we can perhaps check for a
specific
kernel version that :

(a) has the vlan tag info in the skb metadata (as opposed to in the packet
itself)
(b) has the following patch that adds the capability to generate a filter
based on the tag value :

commit f3335031b9452baebfe49b8b5e55d3fe0c4677d1
Author: Eric Dumazet eduma...@google.com
Date:   Sat Oct 27 02:26:17 2012 +

 net: filter: add vlan tag access

WE need both of the above two things for the userland to generate a filter
code that compares vlan tag values in the skb metadata. For kernels that
has the vlan tag in
the skb metadata but does not have the above commit (b), there is nothing
that can be done. For older kernels that had the vlan tag info in the
packet itself, the filter code can be generated differently to look at
specific offsets within the packet (something that libpcap does
currently).

We have already ruled out the idea of generating a filter and trying to
load and see if that fails (see previous emails on this thread).

Hope this makes sense.


I think it doesn't. Because then you are obviously considering adding one
procfs file into /proc/sys/net/core/ *for each* feature that is added into
the ancillary ops which cannot be the right way ...


diff --git a/include/linux/filter.h b/include/linux/filter.h
index c45eabc..91e2ba3 100644
--- a/include/linux/filter.h
+++ b/include/linux/filter.h
@@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ static inline unsigned int sk_filter_len(const struct 
sk_filter *fp)
return fp-len * sizeof(struct sock_filter) + sizeof(*fp);
  }

+extern bool sysctl_8021q_inskb;
  extern int sk_filter(struct sock *sk, struct sk_buff *skb);
  extern unsigned int sk_run_filter(const struct sk_buff *skb,
  const struct sock_filter *filter);
diff --git a/net/core/filter.c b/net/core/filter.c
index c23543c..4f5a657 100644
--- a/net/core/filter.c
+++ b/net/core/filter.c
@@ -41,6 +41,8 @@
  #include linux/seccomp.h
  #include linux/if_vlan.h

+bool sysctl_8021q_inskb = 1;
+
  /* No hurry in this branch
   *
   * Exported for the bpf jit load helper.
diff --git a/net/core/sysctl_net_core.c b/net/core/sysctl_net_core.c
index d1b0804..f9a3700 100644
--- a/net/core/sysctl_net_core.c
+++ b/net/core/sysctl_net_core.c
@@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
  #include linux/init.h
  #include linux/slab.h
  #include linux/kmemleak.h
+#include linux/filter.h

  #include net/ip.h
  #include net/sock.h
@@ -189,6 +190,13 @@ static struct ctl_table net_core_table[] = {
.mode   = 0644,
.proc_handler   = proc_dointvec
},
+   {
+   .procname   = 8021q_inskb,
+   .data   = sysctl_8021q_inskb,
+   .maxlen = sizeof(bool),
+   .mode   = 0444,
+   .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec
+   },
{ }
  };

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Re: [tcpdump-workers] vlan tagged packets and libpcap breakage

2012-12-13 Thread Daniel Borkmann
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Ani Sinha a...@aristanetworks.com wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Daniel Borkmann dbork...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 12/12/2012 10:53 PM, Ani Sinha wrote:

 unsigned int netdev_8021q_inskb = 1;

 ...
 {
 .ctl_name   = NET_CORE_8021q_INSKB,
 .procname   = netdev_8021q_inskb,
 .data   = netdev_8021q_inskb,
 .maxlen = sizeof(int),
 .mode   = 0444,
 .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec
 },

 would seem to do it to me.
 Then pcap can fopen(/proc/sys/net/core/netdev_8021q_inskb) and if it
 finds it, and it is 0, then do the cmsg thing.


 I think it doesn't. Because then you are obviously considering adding one
 procfs file into /proc/sys/net/core/ *for each* feature that is added into
 the ancillary ops which cannot be the right way ...

 We had already brought up this topic previously in the same thread. A
 suggestion was made to add that proc entry and no one from netdev
 responded to it saying that it did not make any sense. Therefore
 before I went ahead and made the fixes in libpcap, I wanted to run
 this by your guys again to make sure we are still on the same page.

Well, not everyone on netdev might be following this thread (resp.
following fully). The best way to get responses for a patch is to go
through the normal patch submission process on netdev, and if you like
to request for comments, then mark it as RFC in the subject. This way,
people will know and likely comment on it if it makes sense or not.

 I do agree that instead of a /proc entry, we should check for a kenrel
 version = X where X is the upstream version that first started
 supporting all the features needed by libpcap for vlan filtering. This
 is not a compile time check but a run time one. Does anyone see any
 issues with this? Is there any long term implications of this, like if
 you backport patches to an older long term supported kernel? Are there
 other better ways to do this, like may be returning feature bits from
 an ioctl call? This is something we need to deal with on a continuous
 basis as we keep supporting newer AUX fields and libpcap and other
 user land code needs to make use of it. At the same time, they need to
 handle backward compatibility issues with older kernels.

As Eric mentioned earlier, for now there seems not to be a reliable
way to get to know which ops are present and which not. It's not
really nice, but if you want to make use of those new (ANC*) features,
probably checking kernel version might be the only way if I'm not
missing something. Now net-next is closed, but if it reopens, I'll
submit a version 2 of my patch where you've been CC'd to. If it gets
in, then at least it's for sure that since kernel xyz this kind of
feature test is present.
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Re: [tcpdump-workers] vlan tagged packets and libpcap breakage

2012-12-13 Thread Ani Sinha
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Daniel Borkmann
danborkm...@iogearbox.net wrote:

 Well, not everyone on netdev might be following this thread (resp.
 following fully). The best way to get responses for a patch is to go
 through the normal patch submission process on netdev, and if you like
 to request for comments, then mark it as RFC in the subject. This way,
 people will know and likely comment on it if it makes sense or not.

OK good to know.

 As Eric mentioned earlier, for now there seems not to be a reliable
 way to get to know which ops are present and which not. It's not
 really nice, but if you want to make use of those new (ANC*) features,
 probably checking kernel version might be the only way if I'm not
 missing something. Now net-next is closed, but if it reopens, I'll
 submit a version 2 of my patch where you've been CC'd to. If it gets
 in, then at least it's for sure that since kernel xyz this kind of
 feature test is present.

thanks, yes, I believe we do need some sort of validation on the
ancilliary features.
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