Apologies for this evening
With vUDS coming up, I'm going to have my fill of evening meetings this week; and furthermore I have some fairly ugly ADSL bandwidth problems at the moment which mean that I can barely load wiki pages while doing anything else at all bandwidth-intensive, like, you know, being on IRC, so checking any references during a meeting is likely to be unconscionably painful. I will check the IRC logs afterwards to see if anything interesting happened ... -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME
Thanks all for the meeting today. One thing we didn't discuss was whether we could use the name 'Ubuntu GNOME Edition'. Jeremy On 22 February 2013 15:29, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: If our request is approved, I'd also like to change our name from 'Ubuntu GNOME Remix' to 'Ubuntu GNOME Edition'. This would match the other Ubuntu flavors that don't use the *buntu naming convention. -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME
On Monday, March 04, 2013 02:41:04 PM Allison Randal wrote: On 03/04/2013 02:14 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Thanks all for the meeting today. One thing we didn't discuss was whether we could use the name 'Ubuntu GNOME Edition'. Historically, the word Edition has a very specific meaning for the Ubuntu project (briefly referenced in the trademark policy: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy), in that it distinguishes domains of use like Ubuntu Server Edition, or the old Ubuntu Netbook Edition. Ubuntu GNOME is a Flavor rather than an Edition. Traditions can change, of course, so it's not an obvious No, but it needs more review to get to an obvious Yes, that's a totally fine name. Is there a reason you want Edition in the name? Rather than just Ubuntu GNOME, similar to Ubuntu Studio? Or, the popular flavor naming pattern Gnubuntu? New *buntu contractions are also frowned on by the trademark policy, so that's probably not ideal, but that's really the trademark holder's call. Scott K -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME
On 03/04/2013 02:41 PM, Allison Randal wrote: On 03/04/2013 02:14 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Thanks all for the meeting today. One thing we didn't discuss was whether we could use the name 'Ubuntu GNOME Edition'. Is there a reason you want Edition in the name? Rather than just Ubuntu GNOME, similar to Ubuntu Studio? Or, the popular flavor naming pattern Gnubuntu? Oh, and it looks like Ubuntu GNOME (with or without Edition) may fall outside the fair use policy for the GNOME Foundation's trademark, so best to politely check with them too, if you haven't already: http://www.gnome.org/foundation/legal-and-trademarks/ https://live.gnome.org/Foundation/LicensingGuidelines I can introduce you to Karen Sandler, if it's helpful. She's not only the current Executive Director of the GNOME Foundation, she's also an amazing free software lawyer who helped a lot of projects back when she worked at the Software Freedom Law Center. Allison -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME
On Monday, March 04, 2013 02:52:35 PM Allison Randal wrote: On 03/04/2013 02:41 PM, Allison Randal wrote: On 03/04/2013 02:14 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Thanks all for the meeting today. One thing we didn't discuss was whether we could use the name 'Ubuntu GNOME Edition'. Is there a reason you want Edition in the name? Rather than just Ubuntu GNOME, similar to Ubuntu Studio? Or, the popular flavor naming pattern Gnubuntu? Oh, and it looks like Ubuntu GNOME (with or without Edition) may fall outside the fair use policy for the GNOME Foundation's trademark, so best to politely check with them too, if you haven't already: http://www.gnome.org/foundation/legal-and-trademarks/ https://live.gnome.org/Foundation/LicensingGuidelines I can introduce you to Karen Sandler, if it's helpful. She's not only the current Executive Director of the GNOME Foundation, she's also an amazing free software lawyer who helped a lot of projects back when she worked at the Software Freedom Law Center. Maybe just call it Ubuntu Three. No one can trademark three (I don't think). Scott K -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME
On 4 March 2013 17:41, Allison Randal alli...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 03/04/2013 02:14 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Thanks all for the meeting today. One thing we didn't discuss was whether we could use the name 'Ubuntu GNOME Edition'. Historically, the word Edition has a very specific meaning for the Ubuntu project (briefly referenced in the trademark policy: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy), in that it distinguishes domains of use like Ubuntu Server Edition, or the old Ubuntu Netbook Edition. Ubuntu GNOME is a Flavor rather than an Edition. Traditions can change, of course, so it's not an obvious No, but it needs more review to get to an obvious Yes, that's a totally fine name. Is there a reason you want Edition in the name? Rather than just Ubuntu GNOME, similar to Ubuntu Studio? Or, the popular flavor naming pattern Gnubuntu? I don't think the GNU Project would be pleased with calling our project Gnubuntu. To my ear, Gubuntu sounds the same as Goobuntu (Google's internal Ubuntu image that was reported on by the media several times last year) and is therefore confusing. Ubuntu GNOME would be fine with me; in casual conversation I have left off the Remix anyway. I did talk with Karen briefly when we started this project six months ago. The GNOME Foundation Board didn't like the name GNOMEbuntu which was our preferred name, but I believe she and the Board are ok with 'Ubuntu GNOME' (assuming I'm not reading this out of context): https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-August/msg00066.html Thanks, Jeremy -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
Re: Flavor Review Request for Ubuntu GNOME
On 03/04/2013 03:04 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Ubuntu GNOME would be fine with me; in casual conversation I have left off the Remix anyway. I actually like the two-word version better anyway. It's easier to say, and fits better on websites, t-shirts, etc. I did talk with Karen briefly when we started this project six months ago. The GNOME Foundation Board didn't like the name GNOMEbuntu which was our preferred name, but I believe she and the Board are ok with 'Ubuntu GNOME' (assuming I'm not reading this out of context): https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-August/msg00066.html Sounds like approval to me. :) So, I'd follow up on that thread to let them know the official status, just for-the-record and all that. Allison -- technical-board mailing list technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
