Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)
Tomorrow I can take some time to try trace what is the source of this behavior. All suggestions would be appreciated i've once asked a (top) linux developer for assistance on some issues with sound and mc, and generally anything involving i/o and scheduler, in my opinion. he told me to look at /proc/sys/kernel/sched_* for some tweakable numbers. but in his opinion, the problem is the i/o. about i/o issues, there's a thread saying that: Now I think the main problem is having the filesystem block (and do IO) in inode reclaim. The problem is that this doesn't get accounted well and penalizes a random allocator with a big latency spike caused by work generated from elsewhere. I think the best idea would be to avoid this. By design if possible, or by deferring the hard work to an asynchronous context. If the latter, then the fs would probably want to throttle creation of new work with queue size of the deferred work, but let's not get into those details. Anyway, the other obvious thing we looked at is the iprune_mutex which is causing the cascading blocking. We could turn this into an rwsem to improve concurrency. It is unreasonable to totally ban all potentially slow or blocking operations in inode reclaim, so I think this is a cheap way to get a small improvement. This doesn't solve the whole problem of course. The process doing inode reclaim will still take the latency hit, and concurrent processes may end up contending on filesystem locks. So fs developers should keep these problems in mind. http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.32/ChangeLog-2.6.32-rc1 as much as i understand those things, the bigger the filesystem, the bigger the i/o slowdown. and if if you are lucky as i am to have one of those infamous green western digital hard disks on a low end motherboard, the system can crawl very easily. hope this will help, somehow :) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
Trying to install from the nightly compose desktop spin: 1) direct booting fails as gdm goes into a paroxysm of fail/restart and just flashes the screen. 2) booting into mode 3 and doing a startx brings up a useable desktop 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock giving up for the night. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury redwolfe(proventesters) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 04:03 -0500, Gregory Woodbury wrote: Trying to install from the nightly compose desktop spin: 1) direct booting fails as gdm goes into a paroxysm of fail/restart and just flashes the screen. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=670361 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Oooh, bad anaconda, depending on hal. No cookie for you. Fileabug! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
2011/1/19 Gregory Woodbury: 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Run 'yum install /usr/bin/hal-lock'. You will be prompted to install the corresponding package, and liveinst then allows to install the system successfully. ~C -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Compiz 0.9 landing in Rawhide
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 14:20 +, Adam Williamson wrote: So all the gconf schemas are now in -gconf subpackages which you don't have to install unless you really, really want to use the gconf configuration storage system for some reason. If you do, you'll have to make sure whatever method you use for launching compiz sets the 'gconf' parameter instead of 'ccp'. The compiz-gtk script which most people probably wind up using, one way or another, to launch compiz now specifies 'ccp' not 'gconf'. I have tested the 'ccp' configuration method quite carefully and can report that, contrary to how it's been in Fedora for a while, Compiz configuration you set with ccsm actually works now. :) Except it means that you're losing all the keyboard configuration that used to be done in the GNOME Keyboard shortcuts preferences. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Compiz 0.9 landing in Rawhide
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 12:03 +, Adam Williamson wrote: configure compiz!' was one of the most popular bug reports (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229 ). I can't really think of a really good way to set this up, especially given that the compiz user base seems split fairly cleanly between GNOME/compiz and (other-desktop)/compiz users, I don't think there's a clear majority for either. then there's the deprecation of GConf and the lack of any guarantee that compiz is going to get a gsettings port looming over everything. do you have any thoughts? bootnote - it does seem in the early discussion in that bug that Owen and Adel came to a reasonable consensus that it made sense to just drop the efforts at GNOME configuration integration and say 'configure compiz via ccsm, don't expect GNOME settings to apply'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Fedora QA] #159: Network Device Naming Test Day
#159: Network Device Naming Test Day +--- Reporter: shyamiyerdell | Owner: narendr...@dell.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15 Component: Test Day | Version: Resolution: |Keywords: +--- Comment (by narendrak): Thanks Adam, i will explore it. I booted into the Rawhide Live Image - http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly- composes/desktop/desktop-x86_64-20110117.16.iso. It failed to show the desktop after doing an autologin. The desktop screen flickers continuously without completing autologin. But i could switch to the text terminal and could see biosdevname, system- config-network-tui and ethtool available. -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/159#comment:15 Fedora QA http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa Fedora Quality Assurance -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Compiz 0.9 landing in Rawhide
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 12:03 +, Adam Williamson wrote: for now I'm going to at least see if I can get a 'pure-gconf' setup to work with ccsm. well, I think I have this going now. the question now is whether to force gconf on all compiz users...I think I'll update the bug report with the issues to consider. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 10:34 +, Adam Williamson wrote: 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Oooh, bad anaconda, depending on hal. No cookie for you. Fileabug! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=670312 Thanks, James signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Oooh, bad anaconda, depending on hal. No cookie for you. Fileabug! What would be even more useful would be suggesting what we should be doing to replace the usage of /usr/bin/hal-lock. - Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Christoph Frieben christoph.frie...@googlemail.com wrote: 2011/1/19 Gregory Woodbury: 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Run 'yum install /usr/bin/hal-lock'. You will be prompted to install the corresponding package, and liveinst then allows to install the system successfully. ~C That does indeed let the system install successfully. 1) Firstboot does not get run properly after reeboot 2) gdm still goes into paralasis of fail/restart so one can't log in graphically 3) login on a text console works and using mode3 and startx brings up a useable desktop 4) NFS is not part of the default system (personal nitpick) 5) vim is not on the default system (personal preference) -- G.Wolfe Woodbury redwolfe(proventesters) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Gregory Woodbury redwo...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Christoph Frieben christoph.frie...@googlemail.com wrote: 2011/1/19 Gregory Woodbury: 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Run 'yum install /usr/bin/hal-lock'. You will be prompted to install the corresponding package, and liveinst then allows to install the system successfully. ~C That does indeed let the system install successfully. 1) Firstboot does not get run properly after reeboot 2) gdm still goes into paralasis of fail/restart so one can't log in graphically 3) login on a text console works and using mode3 and startx brings up a useable desktop Additionally, plymouthd throws an error durring bootup: cannot log bootup, address already in use. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury redwolfe(proventesters) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 10:02 -0500, Chris Lumens wrote: 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock Oooh, bad anaconda, depending on hal. No cookie for you. Fileabug! What would be even more useful would be suggesting what we should be doing to replace the usage of /usr/bin/hal-lock. The replacement for hal-lock is udisks --inhibit. See udisks(1). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)
2011/1/19 cornel panceac cpanc...@gmail.com: Tomorrow I can take some time to try trace what is the source of this behavior. All suggestions would be appreciated i've once asked a (top) linux developer for assistance on some issues with sound and mc, and generally anything involving i/o and scheduler, in my opinion. he told me to look at /proc/sys/kernel/sched_* for some tweakable numbers. but in his opinion, the problem is the i/o. about i/o issues, there's a thread saying that: Now I think the main problem is having the filesystem block (and do IO) in inode reclaim. The problem is that this doesn't get accounted well and penalizes a random allocator with a big latency spike caused by work generated from elsewhere. I think the best idea would be to avoid this. By design if possible, or by deferring the hard work to an asynchronous context. If the latter, then the fs would probably want to throttle creation of new work with queue size of the deferred work, but let's not get into those details. Anyway, the other obvious thing we looked at is the iprune_mutex which is causing the cascading blocking. We could turn this into an rwsem to improve concurrency. It is unreasonable to totally ban all potentially slow or blocking operations in inode reclaim, so I think this is a cheap way to get a small improvement. This doesn't solve the whole problem of course. The process doing inode reclaim will still take the latency hit, and concurrent processes may end up contending on filesystem locks. So fs developers should keep these problems in mind. http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.32/ChangeLog-2.6.32-rc1 And where the famous 2.6.37 vfs scalability fixes? :) as much as i understand those things, the bigger the filesystem, My /home on laptop has 8 or 16GB (it's only a test system) - I've got larger file systems the bigger the i/o slowdown. and if if you are lucky as i am to have one of those infamous green western digital hard disks I'm lucky and I've got two infamous [1.585384] ata3.00: ATA-8: WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1, 01.01A01, max UDMA/133 [..] [1.602188] ata4.00: ATA-8: WDC WD15EADS-00P8B0, 01.00A01, max UDMA/133 I also have one famous [2.907613] ata6.00: ATA-8: WDC WD1001FALS-00E8B0, 05.00K05, max UDMA/133 on a low end motherboard, on atom 330 board. No problems so far :) the system can crawl very easily. hope this will help, somehow :) Thanks for the pointer. I doubt that this problem is related to kernel space issue. I'll try to track down it this week. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Medium-sized project for anyone looking for one
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 23:14 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: It would also be really nice if smolt could include the numeric pci device/vendor ids along with the string, I've had a couple bugs where being able to see that information would be very helpful. (Since the string can be the same for several versions of a chip as you describe.) I swear it used to, or can be made to. Though it displays them in decimal, which is extremely disorienting. now you've said that, it's ringing bells. I think I figured out that it does show an ID for each device but I didn't twig it was actually the PCI ID in decimal...how bizarre. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)
On 01/19/2011 11:14 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: And where the famous 2.6.37 vfs scalability fixes? :) Some were merged in 2.6.36 and the rest will be in 2.6.38 and not 2.6.37 Rahul -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)
2011/1/19 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com: On 01/19/2011 11:14 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: And where the famous 2.6.37 vfs scalability fixes? :) Some were merged in 2.6.36 and the rest will be in 2.6.38 and not 2.6.37 git log --format=oneline --abbrev-commit v2.6.36..v2.6.37 fs/ | grep fs: shows some stuff the entire list may also reveal some patches git log --format=oneline --abbrev-commit v2.6.36..v2.6.37 fs/ Rahul -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Fedora QA] #159: Network Device Naming Test Day
#159: Network Device Naming Test Day +--- Reporter: shyamiyerdell | Owner: narendr...@dell.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15 Component: Test Day | Version: Resolution: |Keywords: +--- Comment (by adamwill): are any of the test cases critpath? i.e., if they were to fail, would networking fail to work on affected machines? -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/159#comment:17 Fedora QA http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa Fedora Quality Assurance -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Call for reviewing TCMS use cases and comparison!
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 19:36 +0800, He Rui wrote: Greetings! Wiki workflow/use cases are reorganized and grouped by general and main test events(runs) use cases. The general cases cover the basic uses of wiki, and the events cases covers the detailed certain steps for organizing the events. Please review it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rhe/tcms_use_cases Meanwhile, Wiki and Nitrate comparison is also listed and grouped by above use cases. I've listed as many features as I can think out for comparison. Please have a look and see if any features are missed. You can review it by the use case you're familiar with if reviewing all of them is tough, but be aware that features compared in former use cases are not listed in later cases again to avoid overlaps: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rhe/tcms_Comparison Ticket#152[1] is currently set up for tracking this event. Feel free to add comments or discuss it here. Note: the feedback deadline is Jan 21, the end of this week. After that date, I'll move forward to the next phase. Waiting for your feedback! Woah, I like the fancy table layout used for comparing use cases between the wiki and nitrate! Thank you for taking the time to identify our current test workflows and offer a comparison between nitrate and the wiki. You've got a really comprehensive list of use cases that will certainly help us evaluate nitrate. While looking through the comparison wiki, I've noted a few comments/questions below. Hope this helps! I'm unclear what the use case 'Creating A Common Page' is, can you elaborate? Is that when we create a category page to group all test results for a milestone (e.g. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Pre-Alpha_Test_Results)? Under 'creating a common page', the row titled 'Submitting format'. Would that be better named as 'Supports data entry using a form'? Under 'creating a common page', there is a row titled 'Subpage using'. I don't think I understand that use case, can you explain? Under section 'Creating A Test Case', there are some red cells for the wiki for (these are also under 'Creating a Test Plan'). What does the 'red' mean. Does it mean that they are not possible, or that the solution provided is not optimal? * Renaming a case - move to another page * Case draft status - manually add draft category/note * Case review status - approved in ticket or somewhere else Also under section 'Creating A Test Case', the row titled 'Test case re-use (write once, link anywhere)' talks about nitrate support for cloning tests. Does this create a new copy of the original, or does it re-use the existing test? If any changes are made to one, are the propagated to the other clone? Under 'Creating A Test Result Page Template', the row titled 'Group cases (by media)', I imagine nitrate supports other methods of grouping/organizing tests in a test run? Oh wait ... this is grouping, not sorting. How would this be done with nitrate, would a test run be created for each media type? Or would we sort tests of different media types differently? Under 'Creating A Test Result Page', the row titled 'Redirecting links' ... is this when a test run has expired, or been replaced by a newer test run? Like if we get RC2, we'll go and adjust RC1 so people know it's no longer active? Not sure what to call this feature, retire a test run? Under 'Posting Test Results', the row titled 'Opening current links' ... I'm trying to think of a more generic name for that feature. Maybe 'Quick access to active test runs' instead? Under 'Generating A Test Summary', the row titled 'Result summary/report generation'. Haha, you list that as *RED* ... very accurate! :) Under 'Administering', the row titled 'License', is this the license for nitrate and mediawiki, or the license for the content in the cases, plans and results? Under 'Release Validation Test Event', the row titled 'Roadmap for each run' ... can you explain, or link to, what is meant by this? Thanks again! James signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Fedora 13 updates-testing report
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.2.24-2.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/subversion-1.6.15-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/php-5.3.5-1.fc13,maniadrive-1.2-26.fc13.1,php-eaccelerator-0.9.6.1-4.fc13,maniadrive-data-1.2-5.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libuser-0.56.16-1.fc13.2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/wordpress-mu-2.9.2-3.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dpkg-1.15.5.6-6.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sssd-1.3.0-40.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mod_auth_mysql-3.0.0-12.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/chm2pdf-0.9.1-8.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/wireshark-1.2.14-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sudo-1.7.4p5-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/hplip-3.10.9-14.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/myproxy-5.3-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-CGI-Simple-1.112-2.fc13 The following Fedora 13 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/procps-3.2.8-8.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sudo-1.7.4p5-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/elfutils-0.151-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/util-linux-ng-2.17.2-10.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libuser-0.56.16-1.fc13.2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/attr-2.4.44-4.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-13.1-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.7.19-80.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libical-0.46-2.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pm-utils-1.2.6.1-4.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mash-0.5.20-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-11.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-3.12.7-4.fc13,nss-util-3.12.7-2.fc13,nss-softokn-3.12.7-3.fc13,nspr-4.8.6-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-7.fc13 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 13 updates-testing dfu-programmer-0.5.4-1.fc13 ghc-enumerator-0.4.3.1-1.fc13.1 ghc-text-0.10.0.0-1.fc13 html-xml-utils-5.8-1.fc13 libssh-0.4.8-1.fc13 memtest86+-4.10-3.fc13 mock-1.1.8-1.fc13 mysql-connector-java-5.1.14-1.fc13 perl-Bencode-1.4-1.fc13 perl-Convert-Bencode-1.03-1.fc13 perl-Convert-Bencode_XS-0.06-1.fc13 pokerth-0.8.3-1.fc13 pootle-2.1.5-1.fc13 qbittorrent-2.6.3-1.fc13 rubygem-boxgrinder-build-ebs-delivery-plugin-0.0.4-1.fc13 rubygem-boxgrinder-build-s3-delivery-plugin-0.0.5-2.fc13 simulavr-0.1.2.6-8.fc13 wordpress-plugin-defaults-2.1-1.fc13 zabbix-1.8.4-2.fc13 Details about builds: dfu-programmer-0.5.4-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-0580) A Device Firmware Update based USB programmer for Atmel chips ChangeLog: * Sun Jan 16 2011 Weston Schmidt weston_schmidt at alumni.purdue.edu - 0.5.4-1 - added atmega8u2 support * Sun Jan 16 2011 Weston Schmidt weston_schmidt at alumni.purdue.edu - 0.5.3-1 - added at32uc3c* support - fixed a number of defects * Sat Aug 22 2009 Weston Schmidt weston_schmidt at alumni.purdue.edu - 0.5.2-1 - added ability to read from STDIN - added ability to configure AVR32 fuses - Applied a number of bug fixes - Fixed AVR device support ghc-enumerator-0.4.3.1-1.fc13.1 (FEDORA-2011-0459) Implementation of Oleg Kiselyov's left-fold enumerators Update Information: Update to the Haskell text library to 0.10.0.0. ChangeLog: * Tue Dec 21 2010 Ben Boeckel maths...@gmail.com - 0.4.3.1-1.1 - Rebuild against ghc-text ghc-text-0.10.0.0-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-0459) Haskell text library Update Information: Update to the Haskell text library to 0.10.0.0. ChangeLog: * Mon Nov 1 2010 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com - 0.10.0.0-1 - update to 0.10.0.0 - README renamed to README.markdown
Re: [Fedora QA] #159: Network Device Naming Test Day
#159: Network Device Naming Test Day +--- Reporter: shyamiyerdell | Owner: narendr...@dell.com Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15 Component: Test Day | Version: Resolution: |Keywords: +--- Comment (by adamwill): It failed to show the desktop after doing an autologin. The desktop screen flickers continuously without completing autologin. gdm is crashing in a loop - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=670361 I hope that'll get fixed by the test day date :) -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/159#comment:18 Fedora QA http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa Fedora Quality Assurance -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Gnome 3.0
Greetings: Does anyone know if there is a verbose schedule for the development of Gnome 3.0? I LOVE the gnome-shell, and I would like to see when things are planned in the development schedule? If there is no published schedule, is there someone that I could email? Sincerely, Rob G. Healey -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
F14 and Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P install problem
Tried to install 64 bit F14 on a system with six SATA HDs. Installation proceeded normally but booting abended with the grub rescue prompt. To get a working install, I had to use Mythubuntu as the primary system, then install F14 specifying the boot partition for Grub, finally running grub-mkconfig under Ubuntu to make a bootable entry for Fedora. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc The High Reliability Software 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Call for reviewing TCMS use cases and comparison!
Please ignore the last mail. Hi James, Wow, firstly, many thanks for your careful review of all the items.:) On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:08 -0500, James Laska wrote: On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 19:36 +0800, He Rui wrote: Greetings! Wiki workflow/use cases are reorganized and grouped by general and main test events(runs) use cases. The general cases cover the basic uses of wiki, and the events cases covers the detailed certain steps for organizing the events. Please review it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rhe/tcms_use_cases Meanwhile, Wiki and Nitrate comparison is also listed and grouped by above use cases. I've listed as many features as I can think out for comparison. Please have a look and see if any features are missed. You can review it by the use case you're familiar with if reviewing all of them is tough, but be aware that features compared in former use cases are not listed in later cases again to avoid overlaps: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rhe/tcms_Comparison Ticket#152[1] is currently set up for tracking this event. Feel free to add comments or discuss it here. Note: the feedback deadline is Jan 21, the end of this week. After that date, I'll move forward to the next phase. Waiting for your feedback! Woah, I like the fancy table layout used for comparing use cases between the wiki and nitrate! Thank you for taking the time to identify our current test workflows and offer a comparison between nitrate and the wiki. You've got a really comprehensive list of use cases that will certainly help us evaluate nitrate. While looking through the comparison wiki, I've noted a few comments/questions below. Hope this helps! I'm unclear what the use case 'Creating A Common Page' is, can you elaborate? Is that when we create a category page to group all test results for a milestone (e.g. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_14_Pre-Alpha_Test_Results)? No, it means creating a general new page on wiki, like a documentation page etc, and test cases/plans/categories/results pages are particular cases based on creating a normal page like this. It lists what a user may do when creating a new page. Under 'creating a common page', the row titled 'Submitting format'. Would that be better named as 'Supports data entry using a form'? Ah great, I've changed it. Under 'creating a common page', there is a row titled 'Subpage using'. I don't think I understand that use case, can you explain? Okay, for example on wiki, Test_Days is under the path of QA like: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days So I tried to compare if nitrate can also organize sub-page under its main page. Under section 'Creating A Test Case', there are some red cells for the wiki for (these are also under 'Creating a Test Plan'). What does the 'red' mean. Does it mean that they are not possible, or that the solution provided is not optimal? Oh the first two below are not optimal, the last one is not possible on wiki. * Renaming a case - move to another page I think moving to another page is not a good way to rename a case, there will be two link addresses for this case. * Case draft status - manually add draft category/note It's better to have a case status called draft, or proposed like nitrate does. * Case review status - approved in ticket or somewhere else Nitrate will send an email including the proposed case id to reviewer for approval. Then the reviewer can set 'confirmed', or 'need update' status. For wiki, I remember we used to track the cases status in tickets and after approved in tickets or reviewed in test@, the 'draft' note is removed, but no sign indicates the case has been reviewed and approved. Also under section 'Creating A Test Case', the row titled 'Test case re-use (write once, link anywhere)' talks about nitrate support for cloning tests. Does this create a new copy of the original, or does it re-use the existing test? If any changes are made to one, are the propagated to the other clone? Nitrate creates new copies, so if any change is made to one, the other clone won't change. Under 'Creating A Test Result Page Template', the row titled 'Group cases (by media)', I imagine nitrate supports other methods of grouping/organizing tests in a test run? Oh wait ... this is grouping, not sorting. How would this be done with nitrate, would a test run be created for each media type? Or would we sort tests of different media types differently? AFAIK, except the above two methods, adding tags to tests and filtering them by tags is another choice. But it requires testers to filter by themselves. So.. I need think about them and compare these methods. Under 'Creating A Test Result Page', the row titled 'Redirecting links' ... is this when a test run has expired, or been replaced by a newer test run? Like if we get RC2, we'll go and adjust RC1 so people know
Fedora 14 and HDMI audio - silence.
Not too long ago I upgraded my home theater system with a blu-ray player. This no longer worked with the HDMI on my old receiver, so I upgraded that too. I upgraded the video card on my stereo computer to an Nvidia 220 with HDMI output. With this combination I am able to watch NASA HD in Dolby Digital. No analog connections. No ground loop noise! VLC player can pass the Dolby Digital or DTS signal to the receiver for full surround sound. Fedora 14 (updated) with the current Nvidia driver is reported to support HDMI audio output. By installing the XFCE mixer I am able to activate iec958 1 which outputs an audio bit stream over the HDMI connector. Unfortunately, selecting HDMI audio under Sound Preferences does not break the silence. The receiver does not have the option of taking video from the HDMI output with analog audio. No tape monitor. No external processor loop. This problem will become more widespread as HDMI output becomes the norm, not the exception. Is there a reasonably simple way to get Fedora to speak over the display adapter's HDMI output? -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc The High Reliability Software 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Gnome 3.0
On 01/20/2011 09:38 AM, Rob Healey wrote: Greetings: Does anyone know if there is a verbose schedule for the development of Gnome 3.0? I LOVE the gnome-shell, and I would like to see when things are planned in the development schedule? If there is no published schedule, is there someone that I could email? A few minutes of googling would have easily found the answers http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNinetyone http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RoadmapTwoThirtyOne Rahul -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)
On 01/20/2011 01:05 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/1/19 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com: On 01/19/2011 11:14 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: And where the famous 2.6.37 vfs scalability fixes? :) Some were merged in 2.6.36 and the rest will be in 2.6.38 and not 2.6.37 git log --format=oneline --abbrev-commit v2.6.36..v2.6.37 fs/ | grep fs: shows some stuff the entire list may also reveal some patches git log --format=oneline --abbrev-commit v2.6.36..v2.6.37 fs/ The main improvement, RCU based name lookup is in 2.6.38 rc1. I assumed you were talking about that instead of minor fixes. Rahul -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F14 and Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P install problem
2011/1/20 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com Tried to install 64 bit F14 on a system with six SATA HDs. Installation proceeded normally but booting abended with the grub rescue prompt. To get a working install, I had to use Mythubuntu as the primary system, then install F14 specifying the boot partition for Grub, finally running grub-mkconfig under Ubuntu to make a bootable entry for Fedora. you can try to fix grub issues using fedora rescue mode from install dvd. -- Through political strategy they keep us hungry and, when you gonna get some food, your brother got to be your enemy. (Ambush in the Night - Robert Nesta Marley) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
