Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta TC1 Live images now available

[Ricardo Argüello]

Images are called Feora, for instance:
Feora-15-Beta-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> Hi, folks. We're sorry for the delay, the live images for TC1 are now
> up:
>
> http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.TC1/Live/
>
> Now we can get down to the desktop validation testing:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Beta_TC1_Desktop
>
> the table's looking all sad and empty at the moment, so if everyone
> could help fill it out that'd be great! Thanks.
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Busted networking on F15

[Orion Poplawski]

I seem to have ended up with busted networking on my F15 machine after 
updating to latest development/15 (no updates-testing).  dig and host 
can resolve IPs, but nothing else seems to be able to .  Anyone else 
seen this?

-Orion
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Re: running F15 programs on a RHEL 5.6 box

[M A Young]

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Andre Robatino wrote:

> I'm looking into the possibility of generating deltaisos directly on alt.fp.o,
> which runs RHEL 5.6, rather than downloading the ISOs, creating the disos, 
> then
> uploading them. This would make it possible to post the disos much sooner as 
> my
> connection is 3/768 DSL and most of the time involved is in the 
> download/upload.
> In addition, alt.fp.o has 8 cores, so it would be possible to use 2 of them
> simultaneously. (The programs I need, makedeltaiso and applydeltaiso, are
> single-threaded.)
>
> The possibilities I'm aware of are either creating static executables or 
> using a
> chroot environment (the first seems preferable, if possible). Can anyone give
> any pointers? Thanks.

You only need the liblzma bits to be static. I think the following should 
work

1. Install the F15 xz-5 source rpm and prepare it for building (rpmbuild 
-bp)
2. Go into the xz-5 build directory and run make
3. Install the F15 deltarpm source rpm and prepare it for building 
(rpmbuild -bp)
4. Go into the deltarpm build directory and edit the Makefile to use the 
lzma headers and archive you just built - with something like the patch 
below
5. make
6. Test the applydeltaiao and makdeltaiso files to see if they work.

Michael Young

--- Makefile2011-01-21 09:45:12.0 +
+++ Makefile2011-04-01 22:41:03.0 +0100
@@ -5,12 +5,12 @@
  rpmdumpheader=$(bindir)/rpmdumpheader
  zlibdir=zlib-1.2.2.f-rsyncable
  zlibbundled=$(zlibdir)/libz.a
-zlibldflags=$(zlibbundled)
-zlibcppflags=-I$(zlibdir)
+zlibldflags=$(zlibbundled) ../xz-5.0.1/src/liblzma/.libs/liblzma.a
+zlibcppflags=-I$(zlibdir) -I../xz-5.0.1/src/liblzma/api/
  pylibprefix=/
  CFLAGS = -fPIC -O2 -Wall -g
  CPPFLAGS = -fPIC -DDELTARPM_64BIT -DBSDIFF_NO_SUF 
-DRPMDUMPHEADER=\"$(rpmdumpheader)\" $(zlibcppflags)
-LDLIBS = -lbz2 $(zlibldflags) -llzma
+LDLIBS = -lbz2 $(zlibldflags)
  LDFLAGS =

  all: makedeltarpm applydeltarpm rpmdumpheader makedeltaiso applydeltaiso 
combinedeltarpm fragiso
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Re: since last update system does not boot any more

[Chuck Anderson]

On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 09:44:03PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
> It is also useful to know how to rescue a failed X session after
> booting and in the middle of a graphical problem once logged in.
> 
> On the old (current!) days you could switch also to a non-graphical VT
> and enter telinit 3 to go into runlevel 3 during a normal session or
> if X broke, and then reenable runlevel 5 by telinit 5. Is there going
> to remain an equivalent after f15 release - i.e. will switching to say
> VT 3 using the standard shortcut still be possible - and then I guess
> login as root and do systemctl stop prefdm.service and then systemctl
> start prefdm.service to reenable the graphical screen?

This is all documented here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd

systemctl isolate multi-user.target

(or)

systemctl isolate runlevel3.target 
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Re: since last update system does not boot any more

[mike cloaked]

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:

> systemd's native concept is 'targets'; graphical.target is roughly
> equivalent to runlevel 5 and multi-user.target is roughly equivalent to
> runlevel 3. rescue.target is roughly equal to runlevel 1, and there's
> emergency.target that's more or less what it sounds like. IIRC, the
> 'native' kernel parameter you can use to specify a particular target is
> systemd.default , so you could try:
>
> systemd.default=emergency.target
>
> or
>
> systemd.default=rescue.target
>
> as kernel parameters and see if those work.

It is also useful to know how to rescue a failed X session after
booting and in the middle of a graphical problem once logged in.

On the old (current!) days you could switch also to a non-graphical VT
and enter telinit 3 to go into runlevel 3 during a normal session or
if X broke, and then reenable runlevel 5 by telinit 5. Is there going
to remain an equivalent after f15 release - i.e. will switching to say
VT 3 using the standard shortcut still be possible - and then I guess
login as root and do systemctl stop prefdm.service and then systemctl
start prefdm.service to reenable the graphical screen?

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Re: since last update system does not boot any more

[Adam Williamson]

On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 21:40 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote:

> Did you found any way how to force systemd to boot to single-user? So far 
> my installation of F15 with systemd has only one runlevel, I can not 
> switch it - nor with grub option, neither with inittab or init command.

systemd doesn't really use runlevels any more, but it has backward
compatibility with them; inittab doesn't work (and there's a comment in
it to this effect), but grub options and 'init' command are supposed to
(and have done for me when I've used them). If this isn't working for
you, please file a bug against systemd.

systemd's native concept is 'targets'; graphical.target is roughly
equivalent to runlevel 5 and multi-user.target is roughly equivalent to
runlevel 3. rescue.target is roughly equal to runlevel 1, and there's
emergency.target that's more or less what it sounds like. IIRC, the
'native' kernel parameter you can use to specify a particular target is
systemd.default , so you could try:

systemd.default=emergency.target

or

systemd.default=rescue.target

as kernel parameters and see if those work.
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Re: f15-updates or f15-updates-testing?

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 08:50 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> If my objective is to eventually be on F15 release, should I continue
> to use f15-updates-testing or switch to just f15-updates now for yum repo?

Theoretically, you should switch to just f15 + f15-updates, because
stuff in f15-updates-testing may not make it into the release repos
until after release (or ever). in practice, most stuff in
updates-testing up until three weeks or so before release (final freeze)
is very likely to make it in, and we generally want f15 testers to be
using updates-testing because that's the most useful testing you can do.
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Re: ABRT Retrace Server Test Day on Thursday March (2011-03-31)

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 05:02 -0400, Michal Nowak wrote:
> ABRT & Retrace Server Test day summary:
> 
> * 8 individual contributors
> * 9 bugs and RFEs in Bugzilla and 8 in Trac, respectively

Looks like a good solid result! Great job organizing and running this
event.
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Re: Screensaver

[Adam Williamson]

On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 18:33 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:

> Concluded the same way.  No way gramma could figure lot of this crap out
> if was to install this.

The GNOME team's belief is that it's better to provide a polished,
consistent and streamlined environment, and if you do this well enough,
'gramma' would not need/want to change the screensaver or font. That's a
design issue, though, and not really relevant to the -test list; best to
take it to -desktop or upstream GNOME lists.
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta TC1 Live images now available

[Adam Williamson]

Hi, folks. We're sorry for the delay, the live images for TC1 are now
up:

http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.TC1/Live/

Now we can get down to the desktop validation testing:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Beta_TC1_Desktop

the table's looking all sad and empty at the moment, so if everyone
could help fill it out that'd be great! Thanks.
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2011-04-01 - F-15-Beta blocker bug review #4 Recap

[Robyn Bergeron]

===
#fedora-bugzappers: F-15-Beta Blocker Review #4
===

Meeting started by rbergeron at 17:00:43 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-04-01/f-15-beta-blocker.2011-04-01-17.00.log.html
.

Meeting summary
---
* Roll Call!  (rbergeron, 17:01:05)

* Intro  (rbergeron, 17:02:47)
   * review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to
 accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted
 blocker and n-t-h bugs  (rbergeron, 17:03:24)
   * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
 (rbergeron, 17:03:42)
   * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Beta_Release_Criteria
 (rbergeron, 17:03:52)
   * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers
 (rbergeron, 17:04:06)

* Proposed Blockers  (rbergeron, 17:06:39)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678553  (rbergeron,
   17:06:50)
   * AGREED: 678553 Accepted beta blocker  (rbergeron, 17:10:20)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684246  (rbergeron,
   17:11:03)
   * AGREED: 684246 rejected Blocker  (rbergeron, 17:15:12)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689291  (rbergeron,
   17:15:46)
   * this one was discussed last week, now we have more info.
 (rbergeron, 17:16:48)
   * AGREED: 689291 uncertain, needsinfo - ask reporter for router
 model/firmware info  (rbergeron, 17:23:43)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691139  (rbergeron,
   17:24:05)
   * AGREED: 691139 Accepted Blocker  (rbergeron, 17:27:07)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692231  (rbergeron,
   17:27:16)
   * AGREED: 692231 rejected blocker, only affects people who installed
 during a short time period, only seen by folks using
 development/branched  (rbergeron, 17:29:50)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677800  (rbergeron,
   17:30:10)
   * AGREED: 677800 pending; needinfo as to whether or not it is on the
 dvd, and thus hitting alpha release criteria re: dependencies
 (rbergeron, 17:35:38)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692029  (rbergeron,
   17:37:03)
   * AGREED: 692029 AcceptedBlocker, hitting alpha release criteria of no
 file conflicts  (rbergeron, 17:42:53)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692103  (rbergeron,
   17:42:58)
   * AGREED: 691203 AcceptedBlocker  (rbergeron, 17:45:45)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692135  (rbergeron,
   17:45:52)
   * AGREED: 692135 AcceptedNTH, may want to revisit mediacheck criterion
 possibilities, but we'd definitely to see it fixed, may possibly be
 related to another bug brunowolff has  (rbergeron, 17:53:08)
   * ACTION: brunowolff to link his bug to 692135  (rbergeron, 17:53:19)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684214  (rbergeron,
   17:53:32)
   * AGREED: 684214 Accepted BetaNTH, final blocker; All applications
 listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a
 basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal
 use  (rbergeron, 17:57:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681898  (rbergeron,
   17:57:35)
   * AGREED: 681898 AcceptedNTH  (rbergeron, 18:01:32)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692436  (rbergeron,
   18:01:53)
   * AGREED: 692436 AcceptedBlocker (and the fix is in and works!)
 (rbergeron, 18:03:06)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=297421  (rbergeron,
   18:03:16)
   * AGREED: 297421 -1 NTH, -1 Blocker  (rbergeron, 18:04:57)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681898  (adamw, 18:05:22)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678927  (rbergeron,
   18:07:41)
   * AGREED: close 678927, if anyone still has a case where they
 sometimes can't get partitions unlocked, plz verify with latest
 systemd and report a new bug, propose as blocker if they deem
 appropriate  (rbergeron, 18:13:54)

* Approved Blockers  (rbergeron, 18:14:30)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=676968  (rbergeron,
   18:15:46)
   * AGREED: 676968 remains a blocker, action on anaconda team to
 evaluate and fix  (rbergeron, 18:19:03)
   * ACTION: clumens to to look at 676968  (rbergeron, 18:19:50)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679486  (rbergeron,
   18:21:36)
   * AGREED: 679486 need to do a needinfo w/sandro, retest with latest
 nightly or beta tc1 kde live  (rbergeron, 18:26:36)

* Proposed NTH  (rbergeron, 18:26:46)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691995  (rbergeron,
   18:27:04)
   * AGREED: 691995 Accepted NTH  (rbergeron, 18:28:25)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691461  (rbergeron,
   18:28:50)
   * AGREED: 691461 Accepted NTH, we <3 polish  (rbergeron, 18:30:08)

* Open Floor / Any other business  (rbergeron, 18:31:17)
   * ACTION: tflink to update BZ's this week and refresh w

Fedora 13 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libvirt-0.8.2-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.2.24-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-12.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tor-0.2.1.29-1300.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libxml2-2.7.7-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/loggerhead-1.18.1-1.fc13

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/php-5.3.6-1.fc13,maniadrive-1.2-27.fc13,php-eaccelerator-0.9.6.1-6.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rsync-3.0.8-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-3.12.9-9.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdm-2.30.2-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtiff-3.9.4-4.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/quagga-0.99.18-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dhcp-4.1.2-2.ESV.R1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcgroup-0.35.1-5.fc13


The following Fedora 13 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tzdata-2011d-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/policycoreutils-2.0.83-33.8.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdm-2.30.2-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-3.12.9-9.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libimobiledevice-1.0.6-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.6.6-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.8.3.998-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/usbmuxd-1.0.7-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtiff-3.9.4-4.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libnl-1.1-14.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.7.19-101.fc13

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-ExtUtils-XSpp-0.15-2.fc13,perl-5.10.1-122.fc13,perl-Wx-0.98-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libxml2-2.7.7-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-2.8.5-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcgroup-0.35.1-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-12.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-13.2-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lua-5.1.4-7.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/librsvg2-2.26.3-3.fc13

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20110218-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dosfstools-3.0.9-4.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/file-5.04-7.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-config-users-1.2.107-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-ethtool-0.6-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libical-0.46-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mash-0.5.20-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libfprint-0.3.0-1.fc13

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-7.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lldpad-0.9.26-2.fc13


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 13 updates-testing

etckeeper-0.53-1.fc13
hplip-3.11.3a-1.fc13
perl-Monotone-AutomateStdio-0.12-1.fc13
python-virtinst-0.500.4-2.fc13
sdlhack-1.2-1.fc13

Details about builds:



 etckeeper-0.53-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-4556)
 Store /etc in a SCM system (git, mercurial, bzr or darcs)

Update Information:

Update to 0.53, a bugfix version.

>From the upstream changelog:

* Install bzr hook lazily, clean up some compatibility code.
* Only set environment variables for commit authorship (EMAIL, GIT_AUTHOR_NAME, 
GIT_AUTHOR_EMAIL, GIT_COMMITTER_EMAIL) if they don't already exist.
* Add .pyc and .pyo files to ignore.
* Add lvm/backup and lvm/cache to ignore.
* Avoid warning about special or hard linked files that are ignored by hg. 
Thanks Sjoerd Mullender for patch.

Furthermore we run update-ignore on package upgrade now.

ChangeLog:

* Mon Mar 28 2011 Thomas Moschny  - 0.53-1
- Update to 0.53.
- Run update-ignore on package upgrade (bz 680632).

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #688991 - etckeeper should not report on hard linked files in 
ignore list when using HG
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688991
  [ 2 ] Bug #680632 - etckeeper should ignore compiled Python objects in /etc/
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680632



===

Fedora 14 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libvirt-0.8.3-6.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/php-doctrine-Doctrine-1.2.4-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/loggerhead-1.18.1-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/couchdb-1.0.2-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rsync-3.0.8-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-3.12.9-9.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tor-0.2.1.29-1400.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.23-10.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/php-5.3.6-1.fc14,php-eaccelerator-0.9.6.1-6.fc14,maniadrive-1.2-27.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/logrotate-3.7.9-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/exim-4.72-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/avahi-0.6.27-6.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtiff-3.9.4-4.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/quagga-0.99.18-1.fc14


The following Fedora 14 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tzdata-2011d-3.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/audit-2.1-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/policycoreutils-2.0.85-28.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.2-51.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-3.12.9-9.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libimobiledevice-1.0.6-1.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libconcord-0.23-5.fc14,udev-161-9.fc14,concordance-0.23-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/usbmuxd-1.0.7-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libnl-1.1-14.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/logrotate-3.7.9-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.23-10.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-ExtUtils-XSpp-0.15-2.fc14,perl-5.12.3-142.fc14,perl-Wx-0.98-5.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/avahi-0.6.27-6.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20110218-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.11-4.fc14


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 14 updates-testing

clementine-0.7.1-1.fc14
cmake-2.8.4-1.fc14
etckeeper-0.53-1.fc14
hplip-3.11.3a-1.fc14
nhn-nanum-fonts-3.010-1.fc14
nhn-nanum-gothic-coding-fonts-1.500-1.fc14
perl-Monotone-AutomateStdio-0.12-1.fc14
python-virtinst-0.500.6-1.fc14
sdlhack-1.2-1.fc14
thai-arundina-fonts-0.1.2-2.fc14
virt-manager-0.8.7-1.fc14

Details about builds:



 clementine-0.7.1-1.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-4545)
 A music player and library organizer

Update Information:

In this release Clementine gains a brand new edit tag dialog with 
autocompletion and the ability to automatically identify music and fetch 
missing tags from MusicBrainz. CUE sheets are now supported - they are detected 
automatically when scanning your library and each track will show up 
separately. We've made a load of smaller improvements as well such as showing 
album covers in the Library tab, greying out deleted songs, a "Show in file 
browser" option, support for network proxies, a "Full library rescan" option, 
and a new tooltip for the track slider that helps you seek more accurately to a 
specific place in a song. See the full changelog for more information:

http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/source/browse/trunk/Changelog

ChangeLog:

* Thu Mar 31 2011 Orcan Ogetbil  - 0.7.1-1
- New upstream release
- Drop upstreamed patch
* Thu Mar 31 2011 Orcan Ogetbil  - 0.7-2
- gcc-4.6 fix
* Wed Mar 30 2011 Orcan Ogetbil  - 0.7-1
- New upstream version
- Drop all upstreamed patches
* Tue Feb  8 2011 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 0.6-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Dec 27 2010 Orcan Ogetbil  - 0.6-2
- Rebuilt against new libimobiledevice on F-15




 cmake-2.8.4-1.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-4551)
 Cross-platform make system

ChangeLog:

* Thu Feb 17 2011 Orion Poplawski  - 2.8.4-1
- Update to 2.8.4 final
* Wed Feb  2 2011 Orion Poplawski  - 2.8.4-0.2.rc2
- Update to 2.8.4 RC 2
* Tue Jan 18 2011 Orion Poplawski  - 2.8.4-0.1.rc1
- Update to 2.8.4 RC 1
- Drop qt4 patch
* Thu Dec 16 2010 Orion Poplawski  - 2.8.3-2
- Add patch from upstream git to fix bug 652886 (qt3/qt4 detection)
* Thu Nov  4 2010 Orion Poplawsk

caribou

[Petrus de Calguarium]

Caribou crashed after this morning's update.

ABRT says:

main.py:55__init__:Exception:AT-SPI
1 or 2 needs to be enabled.

.

My questions are:

Where do I choose either 1 or 2 and what are they?

I realize that I will not likely use caribou, as it is for gnome, but I still 
want to know what 1 and 2 are and how to enable them.

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Re: run command at boot time

[Joachim Backes]

On 04/01/2011 04:24 PM, cornel panceac wrote:

what is the recommended way to run commands (like modprobe, service) at boot
time in f15? i understand that rc.local is ignored.


Cornel,

why should it be ignored? I have a command in rc.local

echo boot time `date` >> /tmp/boottime

and this works wonderfully.

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running F15 programs on a RHEL 5.6 box

[Andre Robatino]

Dennis Gilmore  ausil.us> writes:

> On Friday, April 01, 2011 07:25:09 AM Andre Robatino wrote:
> > I'm looking into the possibility of generating deltaisos directly on
> > alt.fp.o, which runs RHEL 5.6, rather than downloading the ISOs, creating
> > the disos, then uploading them. This would make it possible to post the
> > disos much sooner as my connection is 3/768 DSL and most of the time
> > involved is in the download/upload. In addition, alt.fp.o has 8 cores, so
> > it would be possible to use 2 of them simultaneously. (The programs I
> > need, makedeltaiso and applydeltaiso, are single-threaded.)
> > 
> > The possibilities I'm aware of are either creating static executables or
> > using a chroot environment (the first seems preferable, if possible). Can
> > anyone give any pointers? Thanks.
> 
> Its not at all possible, glibc in f15 requires that the host be running 
> 2.6.32 
> or newer kernel, and its running 2.6.18.

I've found by just attempting to run the F14 and F15 {make,apply}deltaiso
executables that the F14 version of makedeltaiso seems to work normally, though
F14's applydeltaiso complains:

applydeltaiso_f14: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by
applydeltaiso_f14)

The F15 versions both fail due to the missing liblzma.so.5, as expected. Would
the difference between F14's 
glibc-2.13-1 and F15's glibc-2.13.90-8 make F15's makedeltaiso fail even if
liblzma.so.5 was installed? Just getting that to work would save quite a bit of
time. Ideally, I'd like to find a way to make this work without any such outside
support, though.

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run command at boot time

[cornel panceac]

what is the recommended way to run commands (like modprobe, service) at boot
time in f15? i understand that rc.local is ignored.

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Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

[cornel panceac]

2011/4/1 Scott Robbins 

> On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:26:07AM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > >
> > >Matej, are you sure, the enforcing=0 works around this? I tried that,
> and
> > >my system still does not boot. Maybe just a bad luck, but selinux=0
> > >worked. I'm not sure about the root cause of the problem, but maybe the
> > >complete selinux engine needs to be disable to work around it, which is
> > >not what enforcing does.
> >
> > I can confirm this: No booting with enforcing=0, but booting with
> selinux=0
> >
>
> enforcing=0 worked for me.
>
> Not sure how things go with people who have selinux turned off.  That
> may change matters.
>
>
> worked for me too. i have selinux enabled in .conf
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Re: running F15 programs on a RHEL 5.6 box

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Friday, April 01, 2011 07:25:09 AM Andre Robatino wrote:
> I'm looking into the possibility of generating deltaisos directly on
> alt.fp.o, which runs RHEL 5.6, rather than downloading the ISOs, creating
> the disos, then uploading them. This would make it possible to post the
> disos much sooner as my connection is 3/768 DSL and most of the time
> involved is in the download/upload. In addition, alt.fp.o has 8 cores, so
> it would be possible to use 2 of them simultaneously. (The programs I
> need, makedeltaiso and applydeltaiso, are single-threaded.)
> 
> The possibilities I'm aware of are either creating static executables or
> using a chroot environment (the first seems preferable, if possible). Can
> anyone give any pointers? Thanks.

Its not at all possible, glibc in f15 requires that the host be running 2.6.32 
or newer kernel, and its running 2.6.18.

Dennis


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Re: f15-updates or f15-updates-testing?

[David]

On 4/1/2011 8:50 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
> If my objective is to eventually be on F15 release, should I continue
> to use f15-updates-testing or switch to just f15-updates now for yum repo?
> 


Just keep updating. Don't change anything. When Fedora 15 is officially
released, 'goes gold', the updates will configure everything for you.

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running F15 programs on a RHEL 5.6 box

[Andre Robatino]

Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane  navy.mil> 
writes:

> If EPEL[1] is installed,  then a yum install deltaiso should get them
> for the admin.
> 
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

The machine only has the old xz compression library (liblzma.so.0). The F15
versions of {make,apply}deltaiso require the new library (liblzma.so.5) to
rebuild F15 ISOs, so I can't use the EPEL version. It would have worked for
disos for F14 and below.




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RE: running F15 programs on a RHEL 5.6 box

[Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane]

> -Original Message-
> From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:test-
> boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Andre Robatino
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:25
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: running F15 programs on a RHEL 5.6 box
> 
> I'm looking into the possibility of generating deltaisos directly on
> alt.fp.o,
> which runs RHEL 5.6, rather than downloading the ISOs, creating the
> disos, then
> uploading them. This would make it possible to post the disos much
> sooner as my
> connection is 3/768 DSL and most of the time involved is in the
> download/upload.
> In addition, alt.fp.o has 8 cores, so it would be possible to use 2 of
> them
> simultaneously. (The programs I need, makedeltaiso and applydeltaiso,
> are
> single-threaded.)
> 
> The possibilities I'm aware of are either creating static executables
> or using a
> chroot environment (the first seems preferable, if possible). Can
> anyone give
> any pointers? Thanks.
> 

If EPEL[1] is installed,  then a yum install deltaiso should get them
for the admin.

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

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Re: ABRT problems

[Jiri Moskovcak]

On 04/01/2011 03:33 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
> Nautilus crashed and abrt popped up.
>
> First, I selected the option to do send the report to the remote analyzer.
>
> That hung with
>
> Certificate is signed by an untrusted issuer:
> 'E=mto...@redhat.com,CN=retrace01.fedoraproject.org,OU=BaseOS,O=Red
> Hat,L=Brno,C=CZ'.
> PENDING
>

- it doesn't hung, it just takes really long, it depends on the size of 
application and it's dependencies..

> Then I tried to process it locally, with no good results.  (Selinux is
> in permissive mode.)
>

- and this is probably rhbz#692064

> Analyzing coredump
> '/home/sdstern/.abrt/spool/ccpp-2011-04-01-08:10:08-5377/coredump'
> Coredump references 133 debuginfo files, 116 of them are not installed
> Could not parse metalink
> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-debug-f15&arch=i386
> error was
> No repomd file
> Looking for needed packages in repositories
> Packages to download: 75
> Downloading 414.41Mb, installed size: 1937.72Mb
> Downloading (1 of 75) file-roller-debuginfo-2.91.93-1.fc15.i686.rpm: 100%
> Extracting cpio from
> /tmp/abrt-tmp-debuginfo-2011-04-01-08:11:54.5521/file-roller-debuginfo-2.91.93-1.fc15.i686.rpm
> Caching files from unpacked.cpio made from
> file-roller-debuginfo-2.91.93-1.fc15.i686.rpm
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: Operation not
> permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36': Permission
> denied
> cpio: ../../../nautilus/extensions-3.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so: Cannot
> symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36/d6dff843c385f3b67f2bfb01e0e9a61b6483a9':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36': Permission
> denied
> cpio:
> ../../usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so.debug:
> Cannot symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36/d6dff843c385f3b67f2bfb01e0e9a61b6483a9.debug':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b': Permission
> denied
> cpio: ../../../../libexec/file-roller-server: Cannot symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b/e18d6fe01c1ed18ac6fe18a5086955c2fd7368':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b': Permission
> denied
> cpio: ../../usr/libexec/file-roller-server.debug: Cannot symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b/e18d6fe01c1ed18ac6fe18a5086955c2fd7368.debug':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82': Permission
> denied
> cpio: ../../../../libexec/file-roller/rpm2cpio: Cannot symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82/62f62312db833c5e204b200ec7662feb5197c5':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82': Permission
> denied
> cpio: ../../usr/libexec/file-roller/rpm2cpio.debug: Cannot symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82/62f62312db833c5e204b200ec7662feb5197c5.debug':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1': Permission
> denied
> cpio: ../../../../bin/file-roller: Cannot symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1/f5186909a466afbb5a1e9f0c018c8a949fe6e4':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1': Permission
> denied
> cpio: ../../usr/bin/file-roller.debug: Cannot symlink to
> `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1/f5186909a466afbb5a1e9f0c018c8a949fe6e4.debug':
> No such file or directory
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: Operation
> not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/bin: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/bin: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/file-roller.debug: Cannot open: Permission
> denied
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x:
> Operation not permitted
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
> cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus':
> Permission denied
> cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0: Cannot mkdir: No
> such file or directory
> 

Re: f15-updates or f15-updates-testing?

[bsfmig]

Don't now. F15-updates is now EMPTY and only when F15 reaches gold could
proven updates be placed into.
Currently, proven updates are directly pushed into F-15 main repository,
which will be frozen a week to F15's gold release.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 20:50, Neal Becker  wrote:

> If my objective is to eventually be on F15 release, should I continue
> to use f15-updates-testing or switch to just f15-updates now for yum repo?
>
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ABRT problems

[Steven Stern]

Nautilus crashed and abrt popped up.

First, I selected the option to do send the report to the remote analyzer.

That hung with

Certificate is signed by an untrusted issuer: 
'E=mto...@redhat.com,CN=retrace01.fedoraproject.org,OU=BaseOS,O=Red 
Hat,L=Brno,C=CZ'.
PENDING

Then I tried to process it locally, with no good results.  (Selinux is 
in permissive mode.)

Analyzing coredump 
'/home/sdstern/.abrt/spool/ccpp-2011-04-01-08:10:08-5377/coredump'
Coredump references 133 debuginfo files, 116 of them are not installed
Could not parse metalink 
https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-debug-f15&arch=i386
 
error was
No repomd file
Looking for needed packages in repositories
Packages to download: 75
Downloading 414.41Mb, installed size: 1937.72Mb
Downloading (1 of 75) file-roller-debuginfo-2.91.93-1.fc15.i686.rpm: 100%
Extracting cpio from 
/tmp/abrt-tmp-debuginfo-2011-04-01-08:11:54.5521/file-roller-debuginfo-2.91.93-1.fc15.i686.rpm
Caching files from unpacked.cpio made from 
file-roller-debuginfo-2.91.93-1.fc15.i686.rpm
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: Operation not 
permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36': Permission 
denied
cpio: ../../../nautilus/extensions-3.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so: Cannot 
symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36/d6dff843c385f3b67f2bfb01e0e9a61b6483a9': 
No such file or directory
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36': Permission 
denied
cpio: 
../../usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so.debug: 
Cannot symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/36/d6dff843c385f3b67f2bfb01e0e9a61b6483a9.debug': 
No such file or directory
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b': Permission 
denied
cpio: ../../../../libexec/file-roller-server: Cannot symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b/e18d6fe01c1ed18ac6fe18a5086955c2fd7368': 
No such file or directory
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b': Permission 
denied
cpio: ../../usr/libexec/file-roller-server.debug: Cannot symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/5b/e18d6fe01c1ed18ac6fe18a5086955c2fd7368.debug': 
No such file or directory
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82': Permission 
denied
cpio: ../../../../libexec/file-roller/rpm2cpio: Cannot symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82/62f62312db833c5e204b200ec7662feb5197c5': 
No such file or directory
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82': Permission 
denied
cpio: ../../usr/libexec/file-roller/rpm2cpio.debug: Cannot symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/82/62f62312db833c5e204b200ec7662feb5197c5.debug': 
No such file or directory
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1': Permission 
denied
cpio: ../../../../bin/file-roller: Cannot symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1/f5186909a466afbb5a1e9f0c018c8a949fe6e4': 
No such file or directory
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1': Permission 
denied
cpio: ../../usr/bin/file-roller.debug: Cannot symlink to 
`./usr/lib/debug/.build-id/a1/f5186909a466afbb5a1e9f0c018c8a949fe6e4.debug': 
No such file or directory
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: Operation 
not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/bin: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/bin: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/file-roller.debug: Cannot open: Permission 
denied
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib: Cannot change mode to rwxrwxr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus': 
Permission denied
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0: Cannot mkdir: No 
such file or directory
cpio: cannot make directory `./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus': 
Permission denied
cpio: 
./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libnautilus-fileroller.so.debug:
 
Cannot open: No such file or directory
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/libexec: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: 
Operation not permitted
cpio: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/libexec: Cannot ch

Re: Screensaver

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 04/01/2011 06:12 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>
> How I start programs automatically when logging in?
>
> Install gnome-session-properties
>
> When I used yum install gnome-session-properites, I get "no package ...
> avaiable".

It is part of gnome-session and should be installed by default.  Fixed
the wiki.

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f15-updates or f15-updates-testing?

[Neal Becker]

If my objective is to eventually be on F15 release, should I continue
to use f15-updates-testing or switch to just f15-updates now for yum repo?

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Re: Screensaver

[Steven Stern]

On 04/01/2011 04:53 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 04/01/2011 03:21 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>>> It seems that there is a sub-culture building up for knowledge to
>>> those facilities that many of us would like to know about for
>>> "tweaking" gnome 3 - is there a single place where all these hints and
>>> tips are available for consultation, and be kept up to date?
>>>
>>> When I eventually do an install of f15 in earnest rather than as a
>>> test system, it will be very useful to avoid frustration to know a
>>> "one-stop-knowledge-shop" place where I can quickly find the necessary
>>> information to tweak icons/fonts/settings/custom app launchers/ to get
>>> the desktop into a working state for day-to-day usage.
>>>
>>> I bet there are others who would like this too!
> 
> I already posted a link here to
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat#GNOME
> 
> I am keeping it updated. 
> 
> Rahul
> 
Thanks!

On this page, it says

How I start programs automatically when logging in?

Install gnome-session-properties

When I used yum install gnome-session-properites, I get "no package ...
avaiable".

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running F15 programs on a RHEL 5.6 box

[Andre Robatino]

I'm looking into the possibility of generating deltaisos directly on alt.fp.o,
which runs RHEL 5.6, rather than downloading the ISOs, creating the disos, then
uploading them. This would make it possible to post the disos much sooner as my
connection is 3/768 DSL and most of the time involved is in the download/upload.
In addition, alt.fp.o has 8 cores, so it would be possible to use 2 of them
simultaneously. (The programs I need, makedeltaiso and applydeltaiso, are
single-threaded.)

The possibilities I'm aware of are either creating static executables or using a
chroot environment (the first seems preferable, if possible). Can anyone give
any pointers? Thanks.

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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Antonio Olivares]

--- On Fri, 4/1/11, mike cloaked  wrote:

> From: mike cloaked 
> Subject: Re: gnome 3 delayed
> To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" 
> 
> Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 4:15 AM
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM,
> Andre Robatino
> 
> wrote:
> > mike cloaked  gmail.com>
> writes:
> >
> >> Great one!  Yes April 1st is a day to be careful
> taking in news
> >> stories!  Any other nice pranks been discovered
> yet?
> >
> > http://skynet.kernel.org
> 
> and possibly http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html
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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[mike cloaked]

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Andre Robatino
 wrote:
> mike cloaked  gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Great one!  Yes April 1st is a day to be careful taking in news
>> stories!  Any other nice pranks been discovered yet?
>
> http://skynet.kernel.org

and possibly http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html
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Re: yum 3.2.29 translation

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 04/01/2011 11:42 AM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
> Running yum update in F15 shows me messages like this:
>
> --->  Package upower.i686 0:0.9.8-3.fc15 will be aktualizaci
> --->  Package upower.i686 0:0.9.9-1.fc15 will be an update
> --->  Package usbmuxd.i686 0:1.0.6-2.fc15 will be aktualizaci
> --->  Package usbmuxd.i686 0:1.0.7-1.fc15 will be an update
> --->  Package vinagre.i686 0:2.91.91-2.fc15 will be aktualizaci
> --->  Package vinagre.i686 0:2.91.93-1.fc15 will be an update
> --->  Package vino.i686 0:2.99.3-1.fc15 will be aktualizaci
> --->  Package vino.i686 0:2.99.5-1.fc15 will be an update
> --->  Package webkitgtk.i686 0:1.3.12-3.fc15 will be aktualizaci
> --->  Package webkitgtk.i686 0:1.3.13-1.fc15 will be an update
>
> Looking into .pot file I can not find a
> message "will be" and "an udpate".
File output.py line 2041:

 _('---> Package %s.%s %s:%s-%s will be %s'), n, a, e, v, r,

> It is not present in transifex, nor in
> yum git. Same for other messages with new "will be" sentences.
The po's are outdated.

Somebody (Upstream?) will want to run "cd po && make update-po"

Afterwards you will see this in cs.po (Presuming this is what you are 
looking into):

#: ../output.py:2041
#, fuzzy, python-format
msgid "---> Package %s.%s %s:%s-%s will be %s"
msgstr "---> Balíček %s.%s %s:%s-%s nastaven k %s"

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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Jan Wildeboer]

On 04/01/2011 12:37 PM, bsfmig wrote:
> Distribution Release: Slackware Linux 1.0
> ！
> *via distrowatch

http://www.geforce.com/#/News/articles/voodoo-revived

Yeah! Voodoo revived!

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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[bsfmig]

Distribution Release: Slackware Linux
1.0
！
*via distrowatch
*
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 18:32, Andre Robatino wrote:

> mike cloaked  gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Great one!  Yes April 1st is a day to be careful taking in news
> > stories!  Any other nice pranks been discovered yet?
>
> http://skynet.kernel.org
>
>
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Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

[Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula]

I tried enforcing=0, it works fine. Probably a better option which doesn't
break things later.

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> Sorry for the presumably wrong advice, i know the difference. As long as
> selinux=0 things changed may go
> with wrong/no labels. I tried /.autorelabel , it did not kick in for
> unknown reasons. Or may be we can wait till the proper
> solution arrives. I did not try enforcing=0  yet.
>
> Thanks
>
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>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Matej Cepl  wrote:
>
>> Dne 31.3.2011 23:36, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula napsal(a):
>> > please add "selinux=0" as kernel parameter while booting. In earlier
>> > cases relabeling worked for me. I haven't tried with the most recent
>> > update yet.
>>
>> Please don't spread bad advice! The correct parameter is enforcing=0. If
>> anybody follow your incorrect advice which damaged his SELinux
>> labelling, please, run before reboot (as root obviously)
>>
>> fixfiles onboot
>>
>> Best,
>>
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gnome 3 delayed

[Andre Robatino]

mike cloaked  gmail.com> writes:

> Great one!  Yes April 1st is a day to be careful taking in news
> stories!  Any other nice pranks been discovered yet?

http://skynet.kernel.org




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Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

[Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula]

Sorry for the presumably wrong advice, i know the difference. As long as
selinux=0 things changed may go
with wrong/no labels. I tried /.autorelabel , it did not kick in for unknown
reasons. Or may be we can wait till the proper
solution arrives. I did not try enforcing=0  yet.

Thanks

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On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Matej Cepl  wrote:

> Dne 31.3.2011 23:36, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula napsal(a):
> > please add "selinux=0" as kernel parameter while booting. In earlier
> > cases relabeling worked for me. I haven't tried with the most recent
> > update yet.
>
> Please don't spread bad advice! The correct parameter is enforcing=0. If
> anybody follow your incorrect advice which damaged his SELinux
> labelling, please, run before reboot (as root obviously)
>
> fixfiles onboot
>
> Best,
>
> Matěj
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Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

[Scott Robbins]

On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:26:07AM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
> >
> >Matej, are you sure, the enforcing=0 works around this? I tried that, and
> >my system still does not boot. Maybe just a bad luck, but selinux=0
> >worked. I'm not sure about the root cause of the problem, but maybe the
> >complete selinux engine needs to be disable to work around it, which is
> >not what enforcing does.
> 
> I can confirm this: No booting with enforcing=0, but booting with selinux=0
> 

enforcing=0 worked for me.

Not sure how things go with people who have selinux turned off.  That
may change matters.



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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Jan Wildeboer]

On 04/01/2011 12:07 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> 2011/4/1 mike cloaked:
>> 2011/4/1 Michał Piotrowski:
>>
> Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
> (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)

 The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you
 think? ;-)
>>>
>>> Some users believes that releasing Gnome3 at a scheduled time with
>>> actual functionality is best April Fool's day joke ever :D
>>
>> Great one!  Yes April 1st is a day to be careful taking in news
>> stories!  Any other nice pranks been discovered yet?
>
> I heard that kernel developers wants to take an example from the
> Gnome3 developers - in the next Linux kernel version it will not be
> possible to shutdown or reboot.

Check debian.org, gentoo etc. The Canterbury Distribution ;-)

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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Michał Piotrowski]

2011/4/1 mike cloaked :
> 2011/4/1 Michał Piotrowski :
>
 Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
 (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)
>>>
>>> The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you
>>> think? ;-)
>>
>> Some users believes that releasing Gnome3 at a scheduled time with
>> actual functionality is best April Fool's day joke ever :D
>
> Great one!  Yes April 1st is a day to be careful taking in news
> stories!  Any other nice pranks been discovered yet?

I heard that kernel developers wants to take an example from the
Gnome3 developers - in the next Linux kernel version it will not be
possible to shutdown or reboot.

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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Fabian A. Scherschel]

Check debian.org ;)

Fab
On Apr 1, 2011 12:02 PM, "mike cloaked"  wrote:
> 2011/4/1 Michał Piotrowski :
>
 Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
 (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html
)
>>>
>>> The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you
>>> think? ;-)
>>
>> Some users believes that releasing Gnome3 at a scheduled time with
>> actual functionality is best April Fool's day joke ever :D
>
> Great one! Yes April 1st is a day to be careful taking in news
> stories! Any other nice pranks been discovered yet?
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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[mike cloaked]

2011/4/1 Michał Piotrowski :

>>> Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
>>> (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)
>>
>> The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you
>> think? ;-)
>
> Some users believes that releasing Gnome3 at a scheduled time with
> actual functionality is best April Fool's day joke ever :D

Great one!  Yes April 1st is a day to be careful taking in news
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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Michał Piotrowski]

2011/4/1 Jan Wildeboer :
> On 04/01/2011 11:53 AM, fsos...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
>> (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)
>
> The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you
> think? ;-)

Some users believes that releasing Gnome3 at a scheduled time with
actual functionality is best April Fool's day joke ever :D

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Re: Screensaver

[mike cloaked]

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:

> I already posted a link here to
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat#GNOME
>
> I am keeping it updated.

I must have missed that - and thank you - that is going to be very
useful (it is already!).

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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[fsos...@gmail.com]

maybe a joke... maybe you're right :)

On 1 April 2011 11:54, Jan Wildeboer  wrote:
> On 04/01/2011 11:53 AM, fsos...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
>> (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)
>
> The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you
> think? ;-)
>
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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Kamil Paral]

- Original Message -
> Hi guys
> 
> Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
> (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)
> 
> What about in f 15 ?

I suspect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day
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Re: gnome 3 delayed

[Jan Wildeboer]

On 04/01/2011 11:53 AM, fsos...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
> (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)

The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you 
think? ;-)

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Re: Screensaver

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 04/01/2011 03:21 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>> It seems that there is a sub-culture building up for knowledge to
>> those facilities that many of us would like to know about for
>> "tweaking" gnome 3 - is there a single place where all these hints and
>> tips are available for consultation, and be kept up to date?
>>
>> When I eventually do an install of f15 in earnest rather than as a
>> test system, it will be very useful to avoid frustration to know a
>> "one-stop-knowledge-shop" place where I can quickly find the necessary
>> information to tweak icons/fonts/settings/custom app launchers/ to get
>> the desktop into a working state for day-to-day usage.
>>
>> I bet there are others who would like this too!

I already posted a link here to

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat#GNOME

I am keeping it updated. 

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gnome 3 delayed

[fsos...@gmail.com]

Hi guys

Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011
(http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html)

What about in f 15 ?


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Re: Screensaver

[mike cloaked]

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:

> For changing the font settings,  install gnome-tweak-tool
>

It seems that there is a sub-culture building up for knowledge to
those facilities that many of us would like to know about for
"tweaking" gnome 3 - is there a single place where all these hints and
tips are available for consultation, and be kept up to date?

When I eventually do an install of f15 in earnest rather than as a
test system, it will be very useful to avoid frustration to know a
"one-stop-knowledge-shop" place where I can quickly find the necessary
information to tweak icons/fonts/settings/custom app launchers/ to get
the desktop into a working state for day-to-day usage.

I bet there are others who would like this too!

Thanks

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yum 3.2.29 translation

[Adam Pribyl]

Running yum update in F15 shows me messages like this:

---> Package upower.i686 0:0.9.8-3.fc15 will be aktualizaci
---> Package upower.i686 0:0.9.9-1.fc15 will be an update
---> Package usbmuxd.i686 0:1.0.6-2.fc15 will be aktualizaci
---> Package usbmuxd.i686 0:1.0.7-1.fc15 will be an update
---> Package vinagre.i686 0:2.91.91-2.fc15 will be aktualizaci
---> Package vinagre.i686 0:2.91.93-1.fc15 will be an update
---> Package vino.i686 0:2.99.3-1.fc15 will be aktualizaci
---> Package vino.i686 0:2.99.5-1.fc15 will be an update
---> Package webkitgtk.i686 0:1.3.12-3.fc15 will be aktualizaci
---> Package webkitgtk.i686 0:1.3.13-1.fc15 will be an update

Looking into .pot file I can not find a 
message "will be" and "an udpate". It is not present in transifex, nor in 
yum git. Same for other messages with new "will be" sentences.

Thanx for any hint

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Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

[Andy Lawrence]

As can I, enforcing=0 does not boot, selinux=0 does.
On Apr 1, 2011 5:26 AM, "Joachim Backes" 
wrote:
> On 04/01/2011 10:57 AM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Matej Cepl wrote:
>>
>>> Dne 31.3.2011 23:36, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula napsal(a):
 please add "selinux=0" as kernel parameter while booting. In earlier
 cases relabeling worked for me. I haven't tried with the most recent
 update yet.
>>>
>>> Please don't spread bad advice! The correct parameter is enforcing=0. If
>>> anybody follow your incorrect advice which damaged his SELinux
>>> labelling, please, run before reboot (as root obviously)
>>
>> Matej, are you sure, the enforcing=0 works around this? I tried that, and
>> my system still does not boot. Maybe just a bad luck, but selinux=0
>> worked. I'm not sure about the root cause of the problem, but maybe the
>> complete selinux engine needs to be disable to work around it, which is
>> not what enforcing does.
>
> I can confirm this: No booting with enforcing=0, but booting with
selinux=0
>
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Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

[Joachim Backes]

On 04/01/2011 10:57 AM, Adam Pribyl wrote:

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Matej Cepl wrote:


Dne 31.3.2011 23:36, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula napsal(a):

please add "selinux=0" as kernel parameter while booting. In earlier
cases relabeling worked for me. I haven't tried with the most recent
update yet.


Please don't spread bad advice! The correct parameter is enforcing=0. If
anybody follow your incorrect advice which damaged his SELinux
labelling, please, run before reboot (as root obviously)


Matej, are you sure, the enforcing=0 works around this? I tried that, and
my system still does not boot. Maybe just a bad luck, but selinux=0
worked. I'm not sure about the root cause of the problem, but maybe the
complete selinux engine needs to be disable to work around it, which is
not what enforcing does.


I can confirm this: No booting with enforcing=0, but booting with selinux=0

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Re: ABRT Retrace Server Test Day on Thursday March (2011-03-31)

[Michal Nowak]

ABRT & Retrace Server Test day summary:

* 8 individual contributors
* 9 bugs and RFEs in Bugzilla and 8 in Trac, respectively

692803  David Kutálek   RFE: Correct integration with KDE [malfunctions without 
gnome-keyring]
692802  David Kutálek   Missing debuginfo for fedora15/sleep crash on abrt 
retrace server
692574  David Kutálek   Not possible to report to bugzilla without gnome keyring
692516  Vít Ondruch The ABRT icon is almost invisible in panel
692474  Vít Ondruch Exceeded quota is not reported
692465  Vít Ondruch Blacklist doesn't work
692442  Vít Ondruch Hi res image for "bug-reporting-window" and task 
switcher
692433  David Kutálek   Cannot connect to Gnome keyring daemon dialog becomes 
annoying
692428  David Kutálek   Report button in warning inside KDE info area does not 
work

#186Michal Nowak Problem notification from abrt won't pop-up in 
gnome-shell
#187Michal Nowak exit code == 0 on "abrt-dump-oops: 1 errors while 
dumping oopses"
#188Michal Nowak Option `-d` should be documented as a root-only, or 
made to work for user
#189Michal Nowak abrtd should reload configuration when some of it's 
config files changes
#190Miroslav Lichvar abrt-cli -i doesn't work on data created by older abrt
#191Michal Nowak When duplicate in Bugzilla is detected, abrt-gui 
should give more valuable information than "exit code = 139"
#192Michal Nowak @@LOCALSTATEDIR@@ should be populated by automake
#193Michal Nowak `abrt-cli -l` should not show reported cases

Michal

- Original Message -
> Fedora QA holds Test Day regarding ABRT 2 and Retrace Server
> on March 31:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-31_ABRT_Retrace_Server
> 
> This test day will focus on Retrace Server feature [1] in
> Fedora 15 as well as ABRT 2.0. Refreshed and bright new
> test cases are prepared for your consumption.
> 
> Please, join us on IRC [2] on Thursday. You're also welcomed
> to do the testing later. Use Bugzilla for bugs and upstream
> Trac [3] for missing features.
> 
> Michal
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Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

[Adam Pribyl]

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Matej Cepl wrote:


Dne 31.3.2011 23:36, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula napsal(a):

please add "selinux=0" as kernel parameter while booting. In earlier
cases relabeling worked for me. I haven't tried with the most recent
update yet.


Please don't spread bad advice! The correct parameter is enforcing=0. If 
anybody follow your incorrect advice which damaged his SELinux 
labelling, please, run before reboot (as root obviously)


Matej, are you sure, the enforcing=0 works around this? I tried that, and 
my system still does not boot. Maybe just a bad luck, but selinux=0 
worked. I'm not sure about the root cause of the problem, but maybe the 
complete selinux engine needs to be disable to work around it, which is 
not what enforcing does.



fixfiles onboot

Best,

Matěj


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How to save the contents of the gnome-shell Activities menu?

[Joachim Backes]

By the yesterday's update of gnome-shell, my gnome-shell Activities menu 
was reset to the system defaults (This has been a feature, as I heard).


My question: how to save thes Activities menu of the gnome-shell desktop 
so I can restore it after a later "destructive"  gnome-shell update?


Any advice is welcome.

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