Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC2 Available Now!

2011-04-12 Thread John Keller
On 04/11/2011 05:29 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM, John Keller fed...@johnkeller.com wrote:
 Would it be possible to make full DVD ISO in a similar way to the
 netinst or livecd ISOs, so that it can be booted off a USB key easily? I
 know it's possible to make a bootable USB by cherry-picking files off
 the DVD ISO and running some commands, but it'd be so nice to be able to
 do a simple dd and reboot. The net install works well, but sometimes
 it's better to have all the files local (e.g. to avoid repository sync lag).

 Just wondering about the possibility (technically, time-wise) of a
 hybrid image.
 
 I don't know why you need a hybrid image - for ages I have used
 livecd-iso-to-disc to write the DVD install iso to a usbkey and it
 works fine for me (for several generations of Fedora as released as
 well as the alpha and betas). You do need a reasonably up to date
 Fedora system to run the command but certainly if you have f13 or f14
 it should be fine - (of course you have to have a large enough usbkey
 to hold the full file! and you also need to have it unmounted when you
 run the livecd-iso-to-disc command, and of course need livecd-tools
 installed on the system that will write the usbkey!)

It's not so much a need as a hope, and a convenience. I'm familiar with
the different tools for creating a bootable install USB from a DVD image
(from manual to fully automatic). But the tools that make it simple are
only available (or at least supported) under Fedora, and a relatively
recent version as you point out.

Having switched from another distro, I can vouch that the closer the
tools are to being part of the base system, the easier it is for people
to do it on another distro (or even another OS). Hard to get more basic
than dd :-) (it even exists for Windows).

Besides the simplicity via dd, a hybrid image would also allow testing
the DVD image without having to burn a DVD. Granted, there's got to be a
difference in the initial bootstrap, but I'd expect that the rest
(especially the parts related to Anaconda) would be the same. I don't
know if that's enough reason on its own, but it'd be nice.

Again, it isn't a necessity - I can certainly get along fine with the
netinst image for testing and burning a DVD on final release. And if
it's not a goal for Fedora to make the DVD image a hybrid, instead
relying on external tools for making bootable USB keys, then I'm sure
that's fine for others. It's just my recent experiences that made me
think about the possibilities (and benefits) that a hybrid image could
bring and so I wanted to ask about that.

- John
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[Test-Announce] Recap: ABRT Retrace Server Test Day on Thursday March (2011-03-31)

2011-04-12 Thread Michal Nowak
ABRT  Retrace Server Test day summary:

* 8 individual contributors
* 9 bugs and RFEs in Bugzilla and 8 in Trac, respectively

692803  David Kutálek   RFE: Correct integration with KDE [malfunctions without 
gnome-keyring]
692802  David Kutálek   Missing debuginfo for fedora15/sleep crash on abrt 
retrace server
692574  David Kutálek   Not possible to report to bugzilla without gnome keyring
692516  Vít Ondruch The ABRT icon is almost invisible in panel
692474  Vít Ondruch Exceeded quota is not reported
692465  Vít Ondruch Blacklist doesn't work
692442  Vít Ondruch Hi res image for bug-reporting-window and task 
switcher
692433  David Kutálek   Cannot connect to Gnome keyring daemon dialog becomes 
annoying
692428  David Kutálek   Report button in warning inside KDE info area does not 
work

#186Michal Nowak Problem notification from abrt won't pop-up in 
gnome-shell
#187Michal Nowak exit code == 0 on abrt-dump-oops: 1 errors while 
dumping oopses
#188Michal Nowak Option `-d` should be documented as a root-only, or 
made to work for user
#189Michal Nowak abrtd should reload configuration when some of it's 
config files changes
#190Miroslav Lichvar abrt-cli -i doesn't work on data created by older abrt
#191Michal Nowak When duplicate in Bugzilla is detected, abrt-gui 
should give more valuable information than exit code = 139
#192Michal Nowak @@LOCALSTATEDIR@@ should be populated by automake
#193Michal Nowak `abrt-cli -l` should not show reported cases

Michal

- Original Message -
 Fedora QA holds Test Day regarding ABRT 2 and Retrace Server
 on March 31:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-31_ABRT_Retrace_Server
 
 This test day will focus on Retrace Server feature [1] in
 Fedora 15 as well as ABRT 2.0. Refreshed and bright new
 test cases are prepared for your consumption.
 
 Please, join us on IRC [2] on Thursday. You're also welcomed
 to do the testing later. Use Bugzilla for bugs and upstream
 Trac [3] for missing features.
 
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F15 blocker? lvm-monitor of snapshot hangs at reboot/shutdown

2011-04-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681582

This hangs a system with just one LV snapshot for about 5 minutes at 
shutdown.  Disabling lvm2-monitor.service fixes the shutdown problem, 
but, obviously, defeats the purpose of monitoring.

I think this should be a blocker.

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Re: F15 blocker? lvm-monitor of snapshot hangs at reboot/shutdown

2011-04-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 11:02 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681582
 
 This hangs a system with just one LV snapshot for about 5 minutes at 
 shutdown.  Disabling lvm2-monitor.service fixes the shutdown problem, 
 but, obviously, defeats the purpose of monitoring.
 
 I think this should be a blocker.

On the surface, it seems like it could be a beta blocker since when
configured for LVM snapshots, it may impact the beta criteria [1] The
desktop's offered mechanisms (if any) for shutting down, logging out and
rebooting must work.  However, LVM snapshots are not included in any
criteria.  Also, if I understand correctly, it sounds like the system
does indeed shutdown ... but after a significant delay (5min).

This seems like a candidate for a NTH for F-15-Final, but from what I
can tell doesn't meet any beta (or Final) blocker release criteria.
Unless of course, I'm misunderstanding the failure scenario.

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Beta_Release_Criteria


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Gnome group install is broken!

2011-04-12 Thread Angel
Gnome group install (yum install @gnome-desktop) does not install Empathy,
Evolution, Rhythmbox, default gnome screensaver and gnome wallpaper in
Fedora 15 latest KDE, which is updated yesterday before installing
gnome-desktop. And as a result, Gnome Shell does not start, after login it
returns me to KDM again.

However, installed separately those packages, and it works now. I think, it
need to be fix?

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Re: Gnome group install is broken!

2011-04-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 21:57 +0600, Angel wrote:
 Gnome group install (yum install @gnome-desktop) does not install Empathy,
 Evolution, Rhythmbox, default gnome screensaver and gnome wallpaper in
 Fedora 15 latest KDE, which is updated yesterday before installing
 gnome-desktop. And as a result, Gnome Shell does not start, after login it
 returns me to KDM again.

How does the gnome shell not start?  Do you get failures listed in
$HOME/.xsession-errors?

Thanks,
James




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Re: [Fedora QA] #169: Proposed Test Day - Cloud

2011-04-12 Thread Fedora QA
#169: Proposed Test Day - Cloud
---+
  Reporter:  rbergero  |   Owner:   
  Type:  task  |  Status:  new  
  Priority:  major |   Milestone:  Fedora 15
 Component:  Test Day  | Version:   
Resolution:|Keywords:   
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Comment (by tflink):

 Just a reminder that the test day is coming up on 2011-04-28.

 More information on managing a test day is available
 [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management on the wiki]

 [http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2011-April/000595.html
 Email reminder has been sent to Cloud SIG]

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Re: GNOME Shell extensions

2011-04-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 03:40 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 04/11/2011 08:59 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
  Nice job.  They are very useful.  My personal preference is not to have 
  the dock extension however. I find it distracting in its current 
  incarnation.
 
 I think it sorts of serves a temporary clutch till you get used to the
 new workflow in GNOME Shell.  The reason that every extension is its own
 sub package is precisely because I don't expect anyone to install all of
 them. 

I guess I should leave this here:

nils@gibraltar:~ gsettings get org.gnome.shell disabled-extensions
['d...@gnome-shell-extensions.gnome.org',
'alternate-...@gnome-shell-extensions.gnome.org']

Hope that helps. One thing that'd be nice if experimental extensions
could be disabled by default and would only be enabled if added to a
hypothetical org.gnome.shell enabled-extensions key.

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Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-12 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 3:21:09 PM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:49 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
   Indeed ... there is something simplistically elegant about:
 
 3
 vs
 multi-user.target

Or, you could look upon it as 'utterly cryptic'. At least
multi-user.target takes a shot at explaining itself. 3...3, well, not so
much.
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 One can reasonably argue for either scheme, though Adam might be acused
 of a desire to destroy venerable historic traditions of mystic Unix
 incantations...

 I should think 3 presents very little problem for internationalization,
 whereas multi-user.target demands translation before it explains
 itself to non-English-speaking users.  Because these are descriptive
 file names, not just message text, and they are used fairly early in the
 boot process, I doubt translation is easy.  Feasible, certainly, but
 messy and therefore unlikely to happen.

I  think  these should be viewed more as keywords, or reserved phrases
and not subject to translation.

This is similar to a C program, where one has 3 cases:
- Comments and literal string can have nearly any value.
- Variable names are only restricted in the character set that can be
  used.
- Language keywords must conform exactly.

Having  them  be  NLS-sensitive  in a global subsystem in a multi-user
environment  (where  each  user  (or  even  process)  is able to use a
different locale) seems to me a recipe for disaster.

Al

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New BugZapper Introduction

2011-04-12 Thread Wolnei
Hi folks,

I'm very happy to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I have working a lot
with Fedora and others Linux since some 4 years ago. So, let's time to
grow my contribute in the project.

I have some experience like system and network administrator, and I'm
studying a C++ language.

So, let me introduce myself.

My name is Wolnei, my first contact with Linux was approximately 5 years ago and
since 2008 I have been working like a Ambassador and Free Media
distributor in my country.

So, thanks a lot for some people who accepted me at Fedora Project.

At my signature I'm sending my contacts fell free if anyone want to contact me.

I like some help getting started with triaging, i test and report some bugs
yet earlier, but i don't know if do that right.

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Re: F15 blocker? lvm-monitor of snapshot hangs at reboot/shutdown

2011-04-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/12/2011 11:22 AM, James Laska wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 11:02 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
snip
 This seems like a candidate for a NTH for F-15-Final, but from what I
 can tell doesn't meet any beta (or Final) blocker release criteria.
 Unless of course, I'm misunderstanding the failure scenario.

 Thanks,
 James

 [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Beta_Release_Criteria


Yes, you understand correctly.  When this first happened, I nearly went 
insane trying to understand why reboot or shutdown was hanging with no 
change to systemd units until I realized I had added an LV snapshot for 
my /home directory.  A note to the LVM list didn't get any responses 
until I pinged them to death and got a reply to take the discussion to 
the bz I created.  There it looks like a standoff between systemd and LVM.

I find it hard to believe I am the only person using LV snapshots with F15.

All this said, I can live without the monitoring, but just wonder if 
serious use of F15 with snapshots and monitoring exists?  When the F16 
cycle starts I am going to experiment with btrfs and snapshots.  Should 
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F15 beta rc2 gnome and keyboard issues

2011-04-12 Thread mike cloaked
I just tried the rc2 live image on a laptop as a test this evening.

It boots, and Gnome 3 loads up - and I can connect to wireless. I yum
updated the main gnome* and xorg* packages as well as the libgnome*
package set - and then set about seeing gnome 3 behaviour.

However I have a UK keyboard - when I went to settings, and selected
keyboard I get a crash on control-center - so I can't change keyboard
to UK.

If I go into system-settings and try to change region I can select
English(UK) - and when I logout and back in that sticks - but whatever
I do I cannot get a UK keyboard!

I also looked for settings in gdm ahead of login to see if a UK
keyboard option exists - and I can't find any -

Does anyone know of a workaround at this stage?  Without a UK keyboard
it is difficult to progress since many passwords use have other
characters than A-Z/0-9 

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Re: F15 beta rc2 gnome and keyboard issues

2011-04-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 19:49 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
 I just tried the rc2 live image on a laptop as a test this evening.
 
 It boots, and Gnome 3 loads up - and I can connect to wireless. I yum
 updated the main gnome* and xorg* packages as well as the libgnome*
 package set - and then set about seeing gnome 3 behaviour.
 
 However I have a UK keyboard - when I went to settings, and selected
 keyboard I get a crash on control-center - so I can't change keyboard
 to UK.
 
 If I go into system-settings and try to change region I can select
 English(UK) - and when I logout and back in that sticks - but whatever
 I do I cannot get a UK keyboard!
 
 I also looked for settings in gdm ahead of login to see if a UK
 keyboard option exists - and I can't find any -
 
 Does anyone know of a workaround at this stage?  Without a UK keyboard
 it is difficult to progress since many passwords use have other
 characters than A-Z/0-9 

What is present in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard ?

Thanks,
James



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Re: F15 beta rc2 gnome and keyboard issues

2011-04-12 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:05 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote:

 If I go into system-settings and try to change region I can select
 English(UK) - and when I logout and back in that sticks - but whatever
 I do I cannot get a UK keyboard!

 I also looked for settings in gdm ahead of login to see if a UK
 keyboard option exists - and I can't find any -

 Does anyone know of a workaround at this stage?  Without a UK keyboard
 it is difficult to progress since many passwords use have other
 characters than A-Z/0-9 

 What is present in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard ?

KEYTABLE=us
MODEL=pc105+inet
LAYOUT=us
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Re: F15 beta rc2 gnome and keyboard issues

2011-04-12 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:19 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:05 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote:

 If I go into system-settings and try to change region I can select
 English(UK) - and when I logout and back in that sticks - but whatever
 I do I cannot get a UK keyboard!

 I also looked for settings in gdm ahead of login to see if a UK
 keyboard option exists - and I can't find any -

 Does anyone know of a workaround at this stage?  Without a UK keyboard
 it is difficult to progress since many passwords use have other
 characters than A-Z/0-9 

 What is present in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard ?

 KEYTABLE=us
 MODEL=pc105+inet
 LAYOUT=us

The system crashed so the above was from booting the live image again
- this time I did not update the packages and the only yum change was
to yum install abrt-cli -

This is i686 - and abrt-cli with the keyboard crash is still running
(with a complaint about a certificate from an untrusted user)

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Re: F15 beta rc2 gnome and keyboard issues

2011-04-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 20:19 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:05 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  If I go into system-settings and try to change region I can select
  English(UK) - and when I logout and back in that sticks - but whatever
  I do I cannot get a UK keyboard!
 
  I also looked for settings in gdm ahead of login to see if a UK
  keyboard option exists - and I can't find any -
 
  Does anyone know of a workaround at this stage?  Without a UK keyboard
  it is difficult to progress since many passwords use have other
  characters than A-Z/0-9 
 
  What is present in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard ?
 
 KEYTABLE=us
 MODEL=pc105+inet
 LAYOUT=us

Can you confirm whether the following update resolves this issue?

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/control-center-3.0.0-1.fc15,gnome-settings-daemon-3.0.0.1-1.fc15

Thanks,
James


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more question than problem

2011-04-12 Thread Dokuro
is this the place to ask what happened to the shoot down option on the
user menu, because now i have to log out before i can shoot down...
the process seems longer...
(fedora 15 alpha gnome3 and loving it!)
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Re: more question than problem

2011-04-12 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/12/2011 03:49 PM, Dokuro wrote:
 is this the place to ask what happened to the shoot down option on the
 user menu, because now i have to log out before i can shoot down...
 the process seems longer...
 (fedora 15 alpha gnome3 and loving it!)
 thnx

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Fedora 13 updates-testing report

2011-04-12 Thread updates
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tor-0.2.1.29-1300.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libxml2-2.7.7-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/proftpd-1.3.3e-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdelibs-4.5.5-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-3.12.9-9.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mediawiki-1.16.2-56.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdm-2.30.2-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libmodplug-0.8.7-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-5.10.1-123.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-12.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dhcp-4.1.2-4.ESV.R2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/seamonkey-2.0.13-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdenetwork-4.5.5-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcgroup-0.35.1-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-feedparser-5.0.1-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-17.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libvirt-0.8.2-6.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ikiwiki-3.20100815.7-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tmux-1.4-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fail2ban-0.8.4-27.fc13


The following Fedora 13 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-ethtool-0.7-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/hunspell-1.2.8-19.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-17.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dosfstools-3.0.9-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tzdata-2011d-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/policycoreutils-2.0.83-33.8.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-3.12.9-9.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libimobiledevice-1.0.6-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/usbmuxd-1.0.7-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.7.19-101.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libxml2-2.7.7-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-2.8.5-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcgroup-0.35.1-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-12.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-13.2-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lua-5.1.4-7.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/librsvg2-2.26.3-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-config-users-1.2.107-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mash-0.5.20-1.fc13

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-7.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lldpad-0.9.26-2.fc13


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 13 updates-testing

BEDTools-2.12.0-1.fc13
django-dpaste-0.2.4-3.fc13
django-mptt-0.4.2-2.fc13
fedora-packager-0.5.8.1-1.fc13
gnome-exe-thumbnailer-0.7-3.fc13
kdenetwork-4.5.5-2.fc13
libgcroots-0.2.3-1.fc13
libmodplug-0.8.7-3.fc13
mysql-5.1.56-1.fc13
python-ethtool-0.7-1.fc13
python-fedora-0.3.21-1.fc13
samtools-0.1.15-1.fc13
setroubleshoot-3.0.31-1.fc13

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 BEDTools-2.12.0-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-5191)
 A flexible suite of utilities for comparing genomic features

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New upstream release with two new tools

ChangeLog:

* Tue Apr 12 2011 Adam Huffman bl...@verdurin.com - 2.12.0-1
- new upstream release 2.12.0
- new tools cuffToTrans and flankBed




 django-dpaste-0.2.4-3.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-5203)
 Dpaste is a code paste-bin application using Django

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Here is where you
give an explanation of
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 django-mptt-0.4.2-2.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-5190)
 Utilities for implementing Modified Preorder Tree Traversal

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F-15 Branched report: 20110412 changes

2011-04-12 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Apr 12 13:15:34 UTC 2011

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Re: Gnome group install is broken!

2011-04-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 21:57 +0600, Angel wrote:
 Gnome group install (yum install @gnome-desktop) does not install
 Empathy, Evolution, Rhythmbox, default gnome screensaver and gnome
 wallpaper in Fedora 15 latest KDE, which is updated yesterday before
 installing gnome-desktop. And as a result, Gnome Shell does not start,
 after login it returns me to KDM again.

Empathy, evolution and rhythmbox are not part of the gnome-desktop
group. gnome-screensaver and the wallpapers certainly are. We'd need
some more information as to what actually happens (beyond just 'does not
install') to say more. How do you conclude that gnome-shell not starting
is a consequence of your group install problem ? 

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Re: GNOME Shell extensions

2011-04-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/12/2011 09:49 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote:
 Hope that helps. One thing that'd be nice if experimental extensions
 could be disabled by default and would only be enabled if added to a
 hypothetical org.gnome.shell enabled-extensions key.

Every single extension is a sub package that you have to choose to
install.  Doesn't that solve this problem?

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Re: more question than problem

2011-04-12 Thread Dokuro
ALT, that is so strange why is that, i tried it and it was there thank
you, where can i find all of this quirks...

thank you

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Stern
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 On 04/12/2011 03:49 PM, Dokuro wrote:
 is this the place to ask what happened to the shoot down option on the
 user menu, because now i have to log out before i can shoot down...
 the process seems longer...
 (fedora 15 alpha gnome3 and loving it!)
 thnx

 Press ALT while the menu is displayed.

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Re: more question than problem

2011-04-12 Thread Dokuro

 If (like me) your system doesn't support suspend, you can try the
 alternative-status-menu extension, which Rahul Sundaram has packaged
 for F15:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-extensions-3.0.0-4.6d56cfgit.fc15

 This extension adds a Power Off... option right below Suspend

 Install gnome-shell-extensions-common and only the individual
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Re: F15 beta rc2 gnome and keyboard issues

2011-04-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 16:21 -0400, James Laska wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 20:19 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:05 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote:
  
   If I go into system-settings and try to change region I can select
   English(UK) - and when I logout and back in that sticks - but whatever
   I do I cannot get a UK keyboard!
  
   I also looked for settings in gdm ahead of login to see if a UK
   keyboard option exists - and I can't find any -
  
   Does anyone know of a workaround at this stage?  Without a UK keyboard
   it is difficult to progress since many passwords use have other
   characters than A-Z/0-9 
  
   What is present in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard ?
  
  KEYTABLE=us
  MODEL=pc105+inet
  LAYOUT=us
 
 Can you confirm whether the following update resolves this issue?
 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/control-center-3.0.0-1.fc15,gnome-settings-daemon-3.0.0.1-1.fc15

For a workaround, install and use system-config-keyboard .
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Re: more question than problem

2011-04-12 Thread Michael Knepher
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dokuro dario.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 ALT, that is so strange why is that, i tried it and it was there thank
 you, where can i find all of this quirks...

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet has quite a few
user-friendly tips. For more complex plumbing, see
http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html


 thank you

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 subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
 On 04/12/2011 03:49 PM, Dokuro wrote:
 is this the place to ask what happened to the shoot down option on the
 user menu, because now i have to log out before i can shoot down...
 the process seems longer...
 (fedora 15 alpha gnome3 and loving it!)
 thnx

 Press ALT while the menu is displayed.

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