USB drive doesn't mount on start-up

2011-04-28 Thread Per Bothner
If while running Gnome I plug in a USB drive, it gets
automatically mounted on /media/WhatEver.

If the USB drive is plugged in when I boot the computer
and log in, it does not get mounted.

This is mildly annoying, though no big deal.  Known issue?
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Re: USB drive doesn't mount on start-up

2011-04-28 Thread Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula
As far as I understand, the kernel event( that new device is plugged in) is
read through DBus by gnome and  it is mounted automatically.

But when you have it plugged in, the kernel throws the event pretty early in
the boot time and there are no takers for that( like gnome, kde or any other
DEs).

I dont know the solution, but this is the reason I found.



On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Per Bothner p...@bothner.com wrote:

 If while running Gnome I plug in a USB drive, it gets
 automatically mounted on /media/WhatEver.

 If the USB drive is plugged in when I boot the computer
 and log in, it does not get mounted.

 This is mildly annoying, though no big deal.  Known issue?
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Problems (Bugs?) with Gnome 3.

2011-04-28 Thread Erik P. Olsen
I am testing F15 beta fully updated as of today and have noticed the following:

1. Shut Down is missing, only Switch User, Log Out and Suspend is available.

2. According to the manual 
(http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-terminal/stable/gnome-terminal-get-started.html.en)
 
Gnome-terminal is found under Accessories. It is not.

3. Figure 1. of same manual displays an example of the terminal. This is not 
the 
way the terminal of my system looks like. Especially the minimize and 
unmaximize 
icons are missing on my system. Actually only the Close icon is displayed and 
the rest can be found with RMB on the title bar which more looks like the new 
style. So this is probably only a documentation bug.

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New BugZapper Introduction

2011-04-28 Thread arjun
Hi ,
   My name is Arjun and i am computer science engg student living in 
kerala,India. I would like to join the Fedora Bug Zapper Team. I've been using 
Linux for the past five years. Till now i was using ubuntu and now i have 
decided to switch to fedora. My IRC nickname is arjunak01 AT irc.freenode.net


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Re: Problems (Bugs?) with Gnome 3.

2011-04-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/28/2011 01:04 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 I am testing F15 beta fully updated as of today and have noticed the 
 following:

 1. Shut Down is missing, only Switch User, Log Out and Suspend is available.

Press alt key when the menu is visible or install
gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu

 2. According to the manual 
 (http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-terminal/stable/gnome-terminal-get-started.html.en)
  
 Gnome-terminal is found under Accessories. It is not.

Under system tools instead.

 3. Figure 1. of same manual displays an example of the terminal. This is not 
 the 
 way the terminal of my system looks like. Especially the minimize and 
 unmaximize 
 icons are missing on my system. Actually only the Close icon is displayed and 
 the rest can be found with RMB on the title bar which more looks like the new 
 style. So this is probably only a documentation bug.

Right

Rahul

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rawhide report: 20110428 changes

2011-04-28 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Apr 28 08:15:02 UTC 2011

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Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-28 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 04/27/2011 09:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 Debian turned aways from libc, SUSE has always followed KDE, ... Many 
 Fedora packagers do so on the package level, when upstreams die or go 
 nuts.

Ein minute bitte.. that's a touch revisionist, isn't it?

Yes, Debian was not the first distribution to ship glibc (that was RHL) and they
stuck with Linux libc but only for a while but that's hardly news; as a
distribution Debian prides itself on stability and avoiding disruption for its
users and those are fine goals but lets not forget that it was Red Hat Linux
(and the loyal users - I was one of them) that bore much of the pain of that
major transition.

In the end all of the other major distributions* followed along in Red Hat's
wake after the heavy lifting had already been done and the major teething
troubles were out of the way. This is progress, surely?

Regards,
Bryn.

* distros that have a reason for using things like dietlibc/uClibc don't really
count as they have rather specific needs and audiences.
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Re: Problems (Bugs?) with Gnome 3.

2011-04-28 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 28/04/11 10:22, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Press alt key when the menu is visible or install
 gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu

A side question, yum list gnome-shell-extension* reveals 8 such extensions in 
total, where can I read detailed about them?

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Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now (James Catchpole)

2011-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 23:14 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
 On 04/27/2011 11:11 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 ...
 
  You forgot the other old guideline for all mailing lists
 
  3.   Keep ones signature to a minimum. 
 
 
 4) do it in private email instead of blasting the entire group ...
 
:-)

I don't intend to start another thread on this, but in fact I often do
send private email on these things. However it's also useful to say them
publicly once in a while.

poc

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MPX aware window manager?

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
So, the multi pointer X has been in xinput 2 in the stock X servers
for a while now, but searches for window managers that actually
support it come up kind of skimpy on results.

Is does any window manager in the fedora 15 repos support this?
Any plans for fedora 16?

I'm just sorta curious.

I do know that as soon as I run:

xinput create-master NewMaster

the gnome-settings-daemon crashes :-).
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f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread Neal Becker
Trying f15beta in a VM.

After install, I wanted to configure to start the wired ethernet at boot.  
Tried 
to use NM to do that, but didn't see any option for starting @boot.

Manually edited network-scripts file, setting ONBOOT=true.  That did it.  But
isn't there a more newb-friendly way?

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Re: MPX aware window manager?

2011-04-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 08:17 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 So, the multi pointer X has been in xinput 2 in the stock X servers
 for a while now, but searches for window managers that actually
 support it come up kind of skimpy on results.
 
 Is does any window manager in the fedora 15 repos support this?
 Any plans for fedora 16?

I don't know of anybody trying to bolt that into mutter, but...

 I do know that as soon as I run:
 
 xinput create-master NewMaster
 
 the gnome-settings-daemon crashes :-).

would definitely be a bug.

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f15 install ssd alignment

2011-04-28 Thread Neal Becker
I'm about to try install f15 to a fresh SSD.  How can I make sure anaconda will 
align partitions properly?
Would it be better to avoid LVM to achieve this?

(sounds like lvm is not going to be easy, according to this:
http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/blog-entry/aligning-filesystems-ssd%E2%80%99s-
erase-block-size

I'm going to try anaconda, not messing directly with low-level tools
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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread Neal Becker
Steven Stern wrote:

 On 04/28/2011 08:42 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
 Trying f15beta in a VM.
 
 After install, I wanted to configure to start the wired ethernet at boot. 
 Tried to use NM to do that, but didn't see any option for starting @boot.
 
 Manually edited network-scripts file, setting ONBOOT=true.  That did it.  But
 isn't there a more newb-friendly way?
 
 
 If you checked Available to all users, then it's started when the NM
 daemon is started, before a user logs in.
 

No Available to all users here - this is kde, if that matters.  There is a 
'system connection', but that gave me a strange error message when I checked it 
and tried to apply.

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Re: f15 install ssd alignment

2011-04-28 Thread DG
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm about to try install f15 to a fresh SSD.  How can I make sure anaconda 
 will
 align partitions properly?
 Would it be better to avoid LVM to achieve this?

 (sounds like lvm is not going to be easy, according to this:
 http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/blog-entry/aligning-filesystems-ssd%E2%80%99s-
 erase-block-size

 I'm going to try anaconda, not messing directly with low-level tools
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I'm also curious about this.  Please someone correct me if I am wrong,
but I think that the partitions are aligned on 1MB boundaries, so no
need to worry about 4KB erase-block boundaries.

I also read that article, as well as some other related ones, and have
heard hearsay about LVM being bad on SSDs, but would appreciate
someone in the know weighing in.  It may also be something to add to
the installation article in the wiki as a sidenote.

Thanks,
Danny G
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Re: f15 install ssd alignment

2011-04-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 08:46:30 -0600,
  DG dang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm also curious about this.  Please someone correct me if I am wrong,
 but I think that the partitions are aligned on 1MB boundaries, so no
 need to worry about 4KB erase-block boundaries.

I think erase blocks are normally a lot larger than 4KB.
From http://lwn.net/Articles/428584/
Although it is usually possible to write single pages, the data cannot be 
overwritten without being erased first, and erasing is only possible in much 
larger units, typically between 128KB and 2MB. The controllers group these 
erase blocks into even larger segments, called erase block groups, 
allocation units, or simply segments. The most common size for these 
segments is 4MB for drives in the multi-gigabyte class, and all operations on 
the drive happen in these units; in particular, the drive will never erase any 
unit smaller than a segment.
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Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:22:17PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 19:01 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
  In other words Gnome and Fedora (Both projects dominated by a single 
  enterprise) haved decided to switch their target audience.
 
 I wouldn't say Fedora is dominated by a single enterprise exactly, but I
 can see the characterization. It really doesn't apply to GNOME, though.
 GNOME is way broader than any single company, Novell probably
 contributes as much as we do and many other groups are involved. As a
 trivial example, when looking at the recent change in the GNOME release
 teams, I see 8 names (former, current and future team members) and I
 only recognize one as being an RHer. (I don't preclude the possibility
 I'm wrong, it's a big company. Sorry if I missed someone. :)

We currently have 2 people on the release team who are affiliated with
Red Hat. Recently 2 persons currently affiliated with Novell left the
release team.

Note that affiliation doesn't say much. The 2 persons affiliated with
Novell weren't affiliated with Novell when they were invited to
(joined) the release team.

People are not invited based on their affiliation. Solely on the work
they did (usually over multiple years) and how they'd fit into the team.
E.g. we needed an accessibility person to provide his input, so we
invited API to join.

I always find it funny when people suggest GNOME is one corporation. So
far from reality that I cannot respond in any other way than to laugh :) [1]

Just to avoid these kind of arguments, we've added a maximum to the
number of affiliates from the same organization:
  https://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/Membership

Also note that according to the GNOME census report, 50% are paid to
work on GNOME, 50% is not.

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Re: f15 update conflicts

2011-04-28 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 09:44 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
 Error: Package: 1:control-center-3.0.1-1.fc15.x86_64 (updates-testing)
Requires: libcheese-gtk.so.19()(64bit)
Removing: 1:cheese-libs-2.91.93-3.fc15.x86_64 (@anaconda-
 InstallationRepo-201104082134.x86_64/15-Beta)
libcheese-gtk.so.19()(64bit)
Updated By: 1:cheese-libs-3.0.1-1.fc15.x86_64 (updates-testing)
Not found
Available: 1:cheese-libs-3.0.0-2.fc15.x86_64 (fedora)
libcheese-gtk.so.19()(64bit)
 

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cheese-3.0.1-1.fc15,control-center-3.0.1.1-3.fc15

When the repos are successfully updated, the updated control-center
package linked above will resolve the problem.

Thanks,
James


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Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/28/2011 11:19 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:22:17PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 19:01 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 In other words Gnome and Fedora (Both projects dominated by a single 
 enterprise) haved decided to switch their target audience.
 I wouldn't say Fedora is dominated by a single enterprise exactly, but I
 can see the characterization. It really doesn't apply to GNOME, though.
 GNOME is way broader than any single company, Novell probably
 contributes as much as we do and many other groups are involved. As a
 trivial example, when looking at the recent change in the GNOME release
 teams, I see 8 names (former, current and future team members) and I
 only recognize one as being an RHer. (I don't preclude the possibility
 I'm wrong, it's a big company. Sorry if I missed someone. :)
 We currently have 2 people on the release team who are affiliated with
 Red Hat. Recently 2 persons currently affiliated with Novell left the
 release team.

 Note that affiliation doesn't say much. The 2 persons affiliated with
 Novell weren't affiliated with Novell when they were invited to
 (joined) the release team.

 People are not invited based on their affiliation. Solely on the work
 they did (usually over multiple years) and how they'd fit into the team.
 E.g. we needed an accessibility person to provide his input, so we
 invited API to join.

 I always find it funny when people suggest GNOME is one corporation. So
 far from reality that I cannot respond in any other way than to laugh :) [1]

 Just to avoid these kind of arguments, we've added a maximum to the
 number of affiliates from the same organization:
   https://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/Membership

 Also note that according to the GNOME census report, 50% are paid to
 work on GNOME, 50% is not.


Where is the like button?  :-)

+1
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Re: Nouveau here yesterday, gone today

2011-04-28 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/27/2011 11:30 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
 On 04/27/2011 09:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 snip

 Nothing changed other than the software.  Not working. Yum update.  Hey,
 it's working.  Yum update.  Hey, it's not.


Peruse your yum.log, revert the usual suspects between it's working 
and it's not. When you find the one that caused the failure, bz it (if 
it isn't already).  That's the beauty of the test list and the testing 
phase of a new release.  Fills your days with excitement and (sometimes) 
dread and then a feeling of reward when you can identify a problem for 
the gurus to solve and move the project forward.

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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 10:21 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:

 No Available to all users here - this is kde, if that matters.  There is a 
 'system connection', but that gave me a strange error message when I checked 
 it 
 and tried to apply.

It rather does matter, yeah, as it's a completely different NM
configuration interface. You might want to ask in #fedora-kde on IRC...
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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 10:21 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
 Steven Stern wrote:
 
  On 04/28/2011 08:42 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
  Trying f15beta in a VM.
  
  After install, I wanted to configure to start the wired ethernet at boot. 
  Tried to use NM to do that, but didn't see any option for starting @boot.
  
  Manually edited network-scripts file, setting ONBOOT=true.  That did it.  
  But
  isn't there a more newb-friendly way?
  
  
  If you checked Available to all users, then it's started when the NM
  daemon is started, before a user logs in.
  
 
 No Available to all users here - this is kde, if that matters.  There is a 
 'system connection', but that gave me a strange error message when I checked 
 it 
 and tried to apply.

When performing an installation, you are given the option to setup
networking for the installer.  Those same options also apply for the
installed system.  So if you use networking during the installation, it
should also set it up for the installed system.  If you perform a
non-network install (DVD), and don't actively configure networking
during installation, your installed system will not automatically enable
networking.  You can manually enable networking on the installed system
using the preferred Network utility (nm-connection-editor in GNOME).

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Installation_Guide/sn-Netconfig-x86.html

Thanks,
James


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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:39:39 -0400
James Laska wrote:

 You can manually enable networking on the installed system
 using the preferred Network utility (nm-connection-editor in GNOME).

Unless you have a static IP, in which case you manually edit the
ifcfg file.
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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 12:49 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:39:39 -0400
 James Laska wrote:
 
  You can manually enable networking on the installed system
  using the preferred Network utility (nm-connection-editor in GNOME).
 
 Unless you have a static IP, in which case you manually edit the
 ifcfg file.

nm-connection-editor has support for configuring static IP information.
Is that not working for you?

Thanks,
James


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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:55:50 -0400
James Laska wrote:

 nm-connection-editor has support for configuring static IP information.
 Is that not working for you?

Certainly could not find anything on the network config dialog
available on the live CD image. Maybe it is there now after updates,
but I needed to config the static IP to get updates :-).
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Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-28 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 21:48 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:

 I am sure that  list could be compiled

I want the following features:

1). The ability to control what is on the panels. I want a
clock/calendar applet that I can place in the top-right corner of the
screen. I want a session switcher in the top-right. I want a
notification area for running applications, in the top-right. I also
want iconic launchers for popular applications, such as Firefox, and
Evolution. I require the ability to add multiple weather applets.
2). The ability to have two or more panels. I require a second panel at
the bottom of the screen, containing a task switcher and a workspace
manager. I don't give a damn about netbook displays on my desktop, and
I've plenty of screen real estate that this is a non-issue.
3). I want sorted menus with an ability to organize applications. I want
dedicated menus for system management features.
4). I require a file manager that works, with desktop icons. I want a
choice about automounting with no assumptions that I will always be
always running a desktop session to automount, etc.

In short, I want GNOME 2.x back. It was absolutely perfect for my needs
and I had very few non-trivial bug related complaints :) XFCE can be
made to do almost all of this, fortunately, and it is a much cleaner and
more consistent upgrade path in terms of desktop experience.

Jon.


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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 13:06 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:55:50 -0400
 James Laska wrote:
 
  nm-connection-editor has support for configuring static IP information.
  Is that not working for you?
 
 Certainly could not find anything on the network config dialog
 available on the live CD image. Maybe it is there now after updates,
 but I needed to config the static IP to get updates :-).

Try again if you have a moment.  nm-connection-editor (provided by
NetworkManager-gnome) is available on the live image, and should allow
you to configure a static IP connection.  If that's failing, that would
be good to know.

Thanks,
James


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Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-28 Thread JB
Jon Masters jonathan at jonmasters.org writes:

 ... 
 I want the following features:
 ... 
 In short, I want GNOME 2.x back. It was absolutely perfect for my needs
 and I had very few non-trivial bug related complaints :)
 ...

Amen, Sir !
It begs the question, you have had a good day today.

JB


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New BugZapper Introduction

2011-04-28 Thread Benjamin Becker
Hi,

My name is Benjamin Becker. I've been using Fedora since FC6 and its about
time to start giving back to the community. I look forward to helping out
with the BugZappers group and the project as a whole.

I'm currently a student at The Ohio State University studying Computer
Science and Engineering as well as Linguistics. I have fairly extensive
experience with C/C++ and Java development, with some Perl and Python thrown
in.

I can be reached via the methods in my sig as well as on IRC as bbecker.

-- 
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Digital Media Consultant
Center for the Study and Teaching of Writing
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614.547.2362
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Re: Karma needed for anaconda-15.29-1.fc15

2011-04-28 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 12:26 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:16 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 13:33 -0400, James Laska wrote:
   Greetings testers,
   http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/updates/anaconda-15.29-1/
 
 
 Downloading now.

Thanks all, anaconda-15.29-1 has been moved into stable
James


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Re: Problems (Bugs?) with Gnome 3.

2011-04-28 Thread Michael Knepher
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 28/04/11 10:22, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Press alt key when the menu is visible or install
 gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu

 A side question, yum list gnome-shell-extension* reveals 8 such extensions in
 total, where can I read detailed about them?

This is about as detailed as I've found:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/gnome-shell-extensions-additional.html
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Update from 20110424 caused bad udp cksum

2011-04-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
I upgrade my desktop (Acer ASE380) from Fedora 14  to F15. Unfortunately, the network has issue with bad udp cksum using tcpdump. -vv command. How to resolve that problem?NetworkManager caused a lot of trouble since I moved to F15 on Toshiba Satelitte C650D (Fusion version).Thanks for help.Luya-- 
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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
   nm-connection-editor has support for configuring static IP information.
   Is that not working for you?
  
  Certainly could not find anything on the network config dialog
  available on the live CD image. Maybe it is there now after updates,
  but I needed to config the static IP to get updates :-).
 
 Try again if you have a moment.  nm-connection-editor (provided by
 NetworkManager-gnome) is available on the live image, and should allow
 you to configure a static IP connection.  If that's failing, that would
 be good to know.

So here's what appears to be happening:

Using the livecd on a usb stick, there was no ifcfg-em1 file
created.

The only app that appears in the control panel is not nm-connection-editor
but something that calls itself Network Settings (or something like
that anyway).

That app has an Options... button which is, apparently, always
disabled if there is no matching ifcfg-whatever file.

If I make an ifcfg-em1 file, the Options... button becomes enabled,
and when I press it, it does appear to bring up an app that
looks a great deal like nm-connection-editor, but there is no
GUI way to get there given the default configuration you get with
the live CD.

If I manually run nm-connection-editor from a terminal, I can create
the ifcfg file, so there doesn't appear to be any reason to have
the Options... button disabled.

A separate issue is that nm-connection-editor has one of the most
screwy interfaces I've ever tried to use to fill out fields in a
form. If I type the IP in the first field then hit TAB (the most natural
button in the world to hit to get to the next field), it erases
the IP address I just typed while moving to the next field.
Apparently I have to hit return rather than tab (but I'd expect
hitting return to be like hitting OK or Apply).

All in all, just editing the ifcfg file is simpler :-).
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Re: f15 start wired on boot?

2011-04-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 18:41 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 
 The only app that appears in the control panel is not nm-connection-editor
 but something that calls itself Network Settings (or something like
 that anyway).
 
 That app has an Options... button which is, apparently, always
 disabled if there is no matching ifcfg-whatever file.
 
 If I make an ifcfg-em1 file, the Options... button becomes enabled,
 and when I press it, it does appear to bring up an app that
 looks a great deal like nm-connection-editor, but there is no
 GUI way to get there given the default configuration you get with
 the live CD.

It's called 'Network Connections'. If you go to overview and type that,
or 'nm-conn', you'll find it. Yeah, not super easy to find.
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Two more GNOME 3 observations

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
I've been fiddling with my f15 beta partition again, trying to
use gnome-shell some more and have some additional observations:

There is a category of apps in the Applications menu called
other. Virtually everything in there is something I'd put
in system tools. Network connections, Users, System services,
etc. They are all called other, which is not where anyone
would look for thing like that. It probably explains why
I couldn't find the nm-connection-editor anywhere to define
a static IP.

I previously mentioned that on my 46 HDTV the giant bloated
icons don't look like much of anything till you back off
from the display a bit, but now that I've been trying to find
things, I notice the text for the descriptions under each
icon has the opposite problem: You have to get up right next
to the screen with a magnifying glass to read the spindly little
font.
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Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-28 Thread sean darcy
On 04/26/2011 11:51 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 08:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

 Sorry, the partially-quoted mail came out hopelessly garbled as I
 somehow managed to trigger a 'send this email now!' key combo while
 editing it. Here's a fixed-up version.

 So, knowing that my new universe starts with systemd, I followed my 
 instincts:

 $ systemd --help
 $ systemd --test

m Your instincts need tweaking. When you absolutely know a given 'thing'
 is made up of a single command, this is a good way to go. systemd is not
 such a case. You don't use the systemd executable to manage systemd, in
 most cases, so looking at the help for the systemd executable isn't
 going to tell you much.

 A better entry point in this case is:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd

 which lists all the most common operations you'll need. Further reading
 at http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd : the Tips and
 Tricks and FAQ pages especially.

 I humbly submit to you that a possible explanation for why there hasn't
 been a lot of heat around systemd lately is that it's working very well.

Well as a brand new F15 user, it was certainly confusing to me. I'd 
installed an F15 vm. systemd was confusing enough that I just deleted 
it, expecting to try it again once the dust had settled.

Maybe there really are sites that effectively describe systemd (I didn't 
check the ones you mention),  but how in the world would a user know 
about them when the user has a problem with systemd. I certainly didn't.

As an earlier poster said, man systemd (or systemd --help) is the first 
obvious step. It's not google systemd fedora.  (Especially if you're 
having connection problems).

sean
sean

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Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/29/2011 09:50 AM, sean darcy wrote:
 Maybe there really are sites that effectively describe systemd (I didn't 
 check the ones you mention),  but how in the world would a user know 
 about them when the user has a problem with systemd. I certainly didn't.

FYI

I too had issues/questions with systemd.

I typed systemd fedora into a google search and the 2 first results
gave me all the info I needed. 
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Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-28 Thread sean darcy
On 04/28/2011 10:01 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 04/29/2011 09:50 AM, sean darcy wrote:
 Maybe there really are sites that effectively describe systemd (I didn't
 check the ones you mention),  but how in the world would a user know
 about them when the user has a problem with systemd. I certainly didn't.

 FYI

 I too had issues/questions with systemd.

 I typed systemd fedora into a google search and the 2 first results
 gave me all the info I needed.

Yes, it seems it would. But, FWIW, it never occurred to me that google 
(bing, ...)  was required to configure fedora. Especially when my 
problem was an ethernet connection :-(

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Re: Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:15:25 -0400
sean darcy wrote:

  I typed systemd fedora into a google search and the 2 first results
  gave me all the info I needed.  
 
 Yes, it seems it would. But, FWIW, it never occurred to me that google 
 (bing, ...)  was required to configure fedora. Especially when my 
 problem was an ethernet connection :-(

You don't understand: Without google linux itself would be impossible :-).
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Re: Update from 20110424 caused bad udp cksum

2011-04-28 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I don't know exactly how this works in Linux, but in many other OS's
(FreeBSD, etc.) this may not be a problem so long as your network traffic
(DNS, etc.) works properly.

If the driver for your network card supports transmit and/or receive
checksum offloading, Linux may not be calculating or verifying these
values.  The hardware internal to your network card will do that work
instead.

You should be able to use ethtool to toggle this behavior on and off.
Someone other than me may also be able to tell you if that behavior changed
by default for your network card between F14 and F15 given the model of the
network card and driver used.

It might also be useful if you could explain to the list the exact nature of
the problems you are having with Network Manager.


On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga
l...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:

 I upgrade my desktop (Acer ASE380) from Fedora 14  to F15. Unfortunately,
 the network has issue with bad udp cksum using tcpdump. -vv command. How
 to resolve that problem?
 NetworkManager caused a lot of trouble since I moved to F15 on Toshiba
 Satelitte C650D (Fusion version).

 Thanks for help.


 Luya

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Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-04-28 Thread updates
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tomcat6-6.0.26-20.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mingw32-openssl-1.0.0a-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/couchdb-1.0.2-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tor-0.2.1.29-1400.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdenetwork-4.6.2-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/avahi-0.6.27-6.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mingw32-libtiff-3.9.5-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/polkit-0.98-5.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/widelands-0-0.24.build16.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/SimGear-2.0.0-5.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mediawiki-1.16.4-58.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-3.6.17-1.fc14,mozvoikko-1.0-21.fc14.1,gnome-web-photo-0.9-20.fc14.1,perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc14.26,gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-30.fc14.1,galeon-2.0.7-40.fc14.1,thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14,xulrunner-1.9.2.17-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.23-10.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/asterisk-1.6.2.18-1.fc14


The following Fedora 14 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tar-1.23-9.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.21-3.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/evolution-exchange-2.32.3-1.fc14,evolution-data-server-2.32.3-1.fc14,evolution-2.32.3-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pygtk2-2.17.0-9.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-14.20101010git8c8f15c.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dosfstools-3.0.9-6.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libimobiledevice-1.0.6-1.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libconcord-0.23-5.fc14,udev-161-9.fc14,concordance-0.23-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/usbmuxd-1.0.7-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.23-10.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/avahi-0.6.27-6.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.11-4.fc14


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 14 updates-testing

Zim-0.52-1.fc14
agedu-0-2.r9153.fc14
akonadi-1.5.2-1.fc14
amanda-3.1.3-3.fc14
asterisk-1.6.2.18-1.fc14
audacity-1.3.13-0.3.beta.fc14
bzr-2.2.4-1.fc14
coot-0.6.2-7.20110421svn3461.fc14
detex-2.8-2.fc14
eiciel-0.9.8-1.fc14
firefox-3.6.17-1.fc14
galeon-2.0.7-40.fc14.1
gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-30.fc14.1
gnome-web-photo-0.9-20.fc14.1
hivex-1.2.5-2.fc14
jmol-12.0.41-1.fc14
mozvoikko-1.0-21.fc14.1
nginx-0.8.54-2.fc14
openobex-1.5-2.fc14
parrot-3.3.0-1.fc14
perl-Convert-Color-0.08-1.fc14
perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc14.26
postgresql-plparrot-0.04-6.fc14
python-ZODB3-3.10.3-1.fc14
python-kitchen-1.0.0-1.fc14
python-zc-buildout-1.5.2-1.fc14
rakudo-star-0.0.2011.04_3.3.0-1.fc14
rcssserver3d-0.6.5-1.fc14
simspark-0.2.2-2.fc14
syncevolution-1.1.1-6.fc14
thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc14
xulrunner-1.9.2.17-2.fc14

Details about builds:



 Zim-0.52-1.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-6203)
 Desktop wiki  notekeeper

Update Information:

Upstream urgent bug-fix
New upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 29 2011 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.52-1
- Update to 0.52 (#71)
* Wed Apr 20 2011 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.51-1
- Update to 0.51 (#683469)

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #71 - [abrt] Zim-0.51-1.fc14: 
notebook.py:260:genexpr:AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'uri'
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=71
  [ 2 ] Bug #683469 - [abrt] Zim-0.50-1.fc14: 
widgets.py:1762:lambda:AttributeError: 'CustomToolManagerDialog' object has 
no attribute 'show_help'
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683469




 agedu-0-2.r9153.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-6223)
 An utility for tracking down wasted disk space

Update Information:

Update to newest upstream release.

ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 28 2011 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org - 0-2.r9153
- Update to upstream r9153.
* Mon Feb  7 2011 Fedora 

Fedora 13 updates-testing report

2011-04-28 Thread updates
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tor-0.2.1.29-1300.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/SimGear-2.0.0-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libmodplug-0.8.7-3.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-12.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mingw32-libtiff-3.9.5-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcgroup-0.35.1-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtiff-3.9.5-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/polkit-0.96-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mingw32-openssl-1.0.0-0.7.beta4.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/widelands-0-0.24.build16.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-17.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mediawiki-1.16.4-58.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/asterisk-1.6.2.18-1.fc13

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-3.6.17-1.fc13,mozvoikko-1.0-21.fc13,gnome-web-photo-0.9-19.fc13,perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc13.24,gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-29.fc13,galeon-2.0.7-40.fc13,thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc13,xulrunner-1.9.2.17-2.fc13


The following Fedora 13 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/polkit-0.96-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.4.1-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-ethtool-0.7-2.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtiff-3.9.5-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pygtk2-2.17.0-9.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dosfstools-3.0.9-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libimobiledevice-1.0.6-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/usbmuxd-1.0.7-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-2.8.5-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcgroup-0.35.1-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.21-12.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-13.2-1.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lua-5.1.4-7.fc13

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-7.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lldpad-0.9.26-2.fc13


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 13 updates-testing

agedu-0-2.r9153.fc13
asterisk-1.6.2.18-1.fc13
firefox-3.6.17-1.fc13
galeon-2.0.7-40.fc13
gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-29.fc13
gnome-web-photo-0.9-19.fc13
jmol-12.0.41-1.fc13
mozvoikko-1.0-21.fc13
nginx-0.8.54-1.fc13
openobex-1.4-6.fc13
perl-Convert-Color-0.08-1.fc13
perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc13.24
python-kitchen-1.0.0-1.fc13
rcssserver3d-0.6.5-1.fc13
simspark-0.2.2-2.fc13
thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc13
xulrunner-1.9.2.17-2.fc13

Details about builds:



 agedu-0-2.r9153.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-6228)
 An utility for tracking down wasted disk space

Update Information:

Update to newest upstream release.

ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 28 2011 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org - 0-2.r9153
- Update to upstream r9153.
* Mon Feb  7 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0-2.r8928
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Jul  7 2010 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org - 0-1.r8928
- Update to upstream r8928.




 asterisk-1.6.2.18-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2011-6208)
 The Open Source PBX

Update Information:

The Asterisk Development Team has announced the release of Asterisk 1.6.2.18.
This release is available for immediate download at
http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/

The release of Asterisk 1.6.2.18 resolves several issues reported by the
community and would have not been possible without your participation.
Thank you!

The following is a sample of the issues resolved in this release:

 * Only offer codecs both sides support for directmedia.
  (Closes issue #17403. Reported, patched by one47)

 * Resolution of several DTMF based attended transfer issues.
  (Closes issue #17999, #17096, #18395, #17273. Reported by iskatel, gelo,
  shihchuan, grecco. Patched by rmudgett)
  NOTE: Be sure to read the ChangeLog for more information about these changes.

 * Resolve deadlocks related to device states in chan_sip
  (Closes issue #18310. Reported, patched by one47. Patched by jpeeler)

 * Fix channel 

Fedora 15 updates-testing report

2011-04-28 Thread updates
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/widelands-0-0.24.build16.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mingw32-libtiff-3.9.5-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc15


The following Fedora 15 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.38.4-20.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/control-center-3.0.1.1-4.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.8.998-4.git20110427.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ModemManager-0.4-8.git20110427.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/chkconfig-1.3.52-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/plymouth-0.8.4-0.20110427.1.fc15,initscripts-9.30-2.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.14.0-6.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-menus-3.0.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-session-3.0.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libsoup-2.34.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-terminal-3.0.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gvfs-1.8.1-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0.1-1.fc15,control-center-3.0.1.1-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openchange-0.9-16.fc15,evolution-mapi-3.0.1-1.fc15,evolution-exchange-3.0.1-1.fc15,evolution-3.0.1-1.fc15,evolution-data-server-3.0.1-1.fc15,gtkhtml3-4.0.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nautilus-3.0.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-keyring-3.0.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgnome-keyring-3.0.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-panel-3.0.0.1-3.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gobject-introspection-0.10.8-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.9.16-18.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lldpad-0.9.41-2.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fcoe-utils-1.0.18-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.3.2-8.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mtools-4.0.16-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-wacom-0.11.0-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libfprint-0.4.0-1.fc15,fprintd-0.4.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-ethtool-0.7-2.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcgroup-0.37.1-2.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-nss-0.11-2.fc15


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 15 updates-testing

Zim-0.52-1.fc15
control-center-3.0.1.1-4.fc15
jmol-12.0.41-1.fc15
kernel-2.6.38.4-20.fc15
mingw32-atkmm-2.22.5-1.fc15
mingw32-glib-networking-2.28.6.1-2.fc15
mingw32-glib2-2.28.6-3.fc15
mingw32-glibmm24-2.28.0-1.fc15
mingw32-gnutls-2.10.5-1.fc15
mingw32-libsigc++20-2.2.9-1.fc15
mingw32-pangomm-2.28.2-1.fc15
mingw32-webkitgtk-1.4.0-3.fc15
mutter-3.0.1-2.fc15
openCOLLADA-0-5.svn838.fc15
python-ZODB3-3.10.3-1.fc15
skychart-3.2-4.fc15
texmaker-3.0.2-1.fc15
the-board-0.1.3-2.fc15
thunderbird-3.1.10-1.fc15

Details about builds:



 Zim-0.52-1.fc15 (FEDORA-2011-6236)
 Desktop wiki  notekeeper

Update Information:

Upstream urgent bug-fix

New upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Fri Apr 29 2011 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.52-1
- Update to 0.52 (#71)
* Wed Apr 20 2011 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.51-1
- Update to 0.51 (#683469)




 control-center-3.0.1.1-4.fc15 (FEDORA-2011-6232)
 Utilities to configure the GNOME desktop

Update Information:

This update adds a metacity dependency, since some control-center panels use 
metacity configuration. In practice this should not change anything, since both 
metacity and control-center are core desktop components.

ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 28 2011 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 3.0.1.1-4
- Add a metacity dep (#698877)

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #698877 - universal access depends on metacity
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698877




Re: Two more GNOME 3 observations

2011-04-28 Thread Manilal K M
On 29 April 2011 06:48, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been fiddling with my f15 beta partition again, trying to
 use gnome-shell some more and have some additional observations:

 There is a category of apps in the Applications menu called
 other. Virtually everything in there is something I'd put
 in system tools. Network connections, Users, System services,
 etc. They are all called other, which is not where anyone
 would look for thing like that. It probably explains why
 I couldn't find the nm-connection-editor anywhere to define
 a static IP.

It would be nice to call it as *Preferences* or *Settings* rather than
*Other*. *Other* sounds like an alien application which doesn't fit
into GNOME or Fedora system.

regards
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[Test-Announce] 2011-04-29 @ 17:00 UTC - F-15 blocker bug review #3

2011-04-28 Thread James Laska
# F15 Blocker Review meeting #2
# Date: 2011-04-29
# Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST)
# Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

The third (of four) F15 Final blocker review meetings will be this
Friday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers.  We'll review proposed and
accepted F-15 blocker bugs.  

As usual, an updated list of blocker bugs is available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers.  The list of
bugs is also attached to this mail.  We'll be reviewing the bugs to
determine ...
 1. whether they meet the Final release criteria [2] and should stay
on the list
 2. are getting the attention they need

For guidance on Blocker and Nice-to-have (NTH) bugs, checkout ...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_nth_bug_process

== Suggested Meeting Preparation ==

Maintainers ...
  * If your bug is *not* MODIFIED ... this issue is at risk of
slipping the F15 Beta release date
  * If your bug is in MODIFIED ... please make sure a build with the
fix exists, and is available as a bodhi update.

Testers ...
  * If you REPORT a bug ... please be responsive to any requests for
additional information.
  * If a bug is in ON_QA ... please take a moment to apply the
update, and post karma feedback

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria

Thanks,
James
== Approved Blockers ==
The following list of bugs are approved blockers that must be resolved.  There
are 8 bugs affecting 7 components.

=== anaconda ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695389 (ON_QA) - Traceback when 
writing a kickstart for an unused lvm-on-raid (TypeError: 'NoneType' object is 
not subscriptable)
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699383 (VERIFIED) - Anaconda 
should not try to get no major:minor numbers for LVM Volume Groups

=== firstboot ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696320 (NEW) - After text-mode 
iSCSI install and boot, firstboot-text and getty are both running - unable to 
login on console

=== gnome-keyring ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684846 (NEW) - selinux denial 
prevents dbus activation of gnome-keyring-daemon

=== gnome-menus ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697834 (NEW) - Other menu appears 
in default installation

=== imsettings ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693809 (ON_QA) - Error message 
about missing input methods should be removed

=== kdebase-workspace ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683629 (NEW) - KWin doesn't start 
up in firstboot, error message: Configuration file 
/root/.kde/share/config/kdedrc not writable

=== system-config-services ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682001 (ASSIGNED) - s-c-services  
- all read and disabled, needs to cope with systemd


== Proposed Blockers ==
The following list of bugs are not yet approved to block the release.  There
are 9 bugs affecting 9 components.  For guidance on reviewing the following
bugs, refer to [[QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process]].

=== NetworkManager ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696278 (NEW) - The system network 
services are not compatible with this version.

=== gdm ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678236 (MODIFIED) - User list 
sometimes not visible on greeter

=== gnome-session ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698184 (NEW) - Enabling session 
saving with Gnome shell makes GUI login unusable

=== ibus-chewing ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696864 (MODIFIED) - [abrt] 
ibus-chewing-1.3.9.2-2.fc15: Process /usr/libexec/ibus-engine-chewing was 
killed by signal 6 (SIGABRT)

=== iscsi-initiator-utils ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692230 (VERIFIED) - 
/etc/init.d/iscsi check for network presence needs to be systemd aware

=== llvm ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699896 (ON_QA) - AVX code 
generation is broken in LLVM 2.8

=== mesa ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699905 (NEW) - Mesa rebuild for 
fixed LLVM 2.8

=== mutter ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=700276 (NEW) - Enabling session 
saving with Gnome shell makes GUI login unusable

=== xorg-x11-drv-ati ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679579 (ASSIGNED) - [R2XX] GNOME 
Shell graphics corruption


== Approved NICE-TO-HAVE ==
The following list of of bugs are approved nice-to-have.  Fixes for
nice-to-have bugs will be accepted during the freeze.  There are 14 bugs
affecting 13 components.

=== LiveCD ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695492 (NEW) - can't tell whether 
Verify and Boot on 15 Beta Live image boot menu actually does a verify

=== anaconda ===
* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693302 (ON_QA) - static network 
kickstart configuration having