Aug 9 RC2

[Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R]

The Aug 9 RC2 dis not throw an unhandled exception when
"basic storage devices" looked at my main HD with a variety
of Linux and Windows systems on it.

But it did complain that swap areas lacked UUID protection.
(What's wrong with looking at the partition ID?)
So I dutifully told the installer to reformat all swap partitions.
This caused the install process to wedge.

I rebooted and selected "specialized storage devices" and
installed F16 with about 2000 packages.  As usual, the
boot loader installation elicited a complaint.

I fixed the booting problem by running Ubuntu's recovery
grub rebuild option.

F16 booted but wedged after noting no ipv6 routers
present on eth0.

64 bit Fedora 16 RC2, Intel i5 with 8 GB RAM, Gefore 460SE,
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3, basic video install option.


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F16/RC2 x86_64 desktop does not boot completely

[Joachim Backes]

Hi,

Anybody sees this too:

After downloading the F16/TC2 x86_64 desktop ISO and burning it, I
booted from the CD media: No GDM after boot, the last messsage on the
console is "Started D-Bus System Message Bus". The ribbon on the buttom
of the screen is completely white (this took much time!!) . No progress,
no reboot with CtrlAltDel. I have to press the reset button.

1. Seeing the same if using the standard boot (not minimal VGA).
2. Same result if booting F16/RC2 inside of VirtualBox
3. The media check is OK

Kind regards

Joachim Backes 

http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes



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Fedora 14 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/foomatic-4.0.7-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/samba-3.5.11-79.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.4.2-5.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/clamav-0.97.2-1400.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cgit-0.9.0.2-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bugzilla-3.6.6-1.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.8.4-2.git20110622.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-config-firewall-1.2.27-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libsndfile-1.0.25-1.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glpi-0.78.5-2.svn14966.fc14,glpi-data-injection-2.0.2-1.fc14,glpi-mass-ocs-import-1.4.2-1.fc14,glpi-pdf-0.7.2-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libmodplug-0.8.8.4-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcap-2.22-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libvpx-0.9.7-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zabbix-1.8.6-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libsoup-2.32.2-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.4.0-3.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tomcat6-6.0.26-21.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.23-10.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdk-pixbuf2-2.22.0-2.fc14


The following Fedora 14 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glibc-2.13-2
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.6.12-4.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.4.0-3.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libsoup-2.32.2-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libcap-2.22-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pinentry-0.8.1-4.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.4.2-5.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libsndfile-1.0.25-1.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ModemManager-0.4.998-1.git20110706.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/unique-1.1.6-3.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.3.2-3.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mash-0.5.22-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdk-pixbuf2-2.22.0-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-5.12.4-146.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/policycoreutils-2.0.85-30.2.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-8.fc14.2
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.21-3.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-14.20101010git8c8f15c.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libconcord-0.23-5.fc14,udev-161-9.fc14,concordance-0.23-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.23-10.fc14


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 14 updates-testing

389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc14
OpenImageIO-0.10.1-2.fc14
R-2.13.1-4.fc14
blender-2.49b-17.fc14
ecryptfs-utils-87-8.fc14
geeqie-1.0-11.fc14
libvpx-0.9.7-1.fc14
mhddfs-0.1.38-7.fc14
php-pear-Net-Sieve-1.3.2-1.fc14
polyml-5.4.1-1.fc14
unbound-1.4.12-1.fc14
zabbix-1.8.6-1.fc14

Details about builds:



 389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-10609)
 389 Admin Server Management Console

Update Information:

UI bugfix

ChangeLog:

* Tue Aug  9 2011 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.8-1
- Bug 723126 - Configure Admin Server -> Connection Restriction --> Add Screen 
is flicking consistently.




 OpenImageIO-0.10.1-2.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-10613)
 Library for reading and writing images

Update Information:

Fixed private shared library issue with a Python library.
Minor bugfix release.
Minor bugfix release.

ChangeLog:

* Thu Aug  4 2011 Richard Shaw  - 0.10.1-2
- New upstream release.
- Fix private shared object provides with python library.




 R-2.13.1-4.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-10610)
 A language for data analysis and graphics

Update Inf

Fedora 15 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/foomatic-4.0.7-3.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/samba-3.5.11-71.fc15.1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.4.4-5.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/clamav-0.97.2-1500.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bugzilla-3.6.6-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libmodplug-0.8.8.4-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cgit-0.9.0.2-2.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libvpx-0.9.7-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zabbix-1.8.6-1.fc15


The following Fedora 15 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.9.16-37.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Compress-Raw-Lzma-2.036-2.fc15,xz-5.0.3-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-18.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pinentry-0.8.1-4.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sendmail-8.14.5-3.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nspr-4.8.8-4.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-softokn-3.12.10-4.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-wacom-0.11.1-3.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mash-0.5.22-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-14.fc15.1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lldpad-0.9.41-3.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libfprint-0.4.0-1.fc15,fprintd-0.4.1-1.fc15


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 15 updates-testing

389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc15
OpenImageIO-0.10.1-2.fc15
R-2.13.1-4.fc15
blender-2.49b-17.fc15
choqok-1.1-4.fc15
ecryptfs-utils-87-9.fc15
geeqie-1.0-11.fc15
libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15
libvpx-0.9.7-1.fc15
php-pear-Net-Sieve-1.3.2-1.fc15
polyml-5.4.1-1.fc15
rubygem-foreigner-1.1.1-1.fc15
thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.47.b5rc3.fc15
transfig-3.2.5d-3.fc15
unbound-1.4.12-1.fc15
worker-2.18.0-7.fc15
xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2-1.fc15
zabbix-1.8.6-1.fc15

Details about builds:



 389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc15 (FEDORA-2011-10619)
 389 Admin Server Management Console

Update Information:

UI bugfix

ChangeLog:

* Tue Aug  9 2011 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.8-1
- Bug 723126 - Configure Admin Server -> Connection Restriction --> Add Screen 
is flicking consistently.




 OpenImageIO-0.10.1-2.fc15 (FEDORA-2011-10597)
 Library for reading and writing images

Update Information:

Fixed private shared library issue with a Python library.
Minor bugfix release.
Minor bugfix release.

ChangeLog:

* Thu Aug  4 2011 Richard Shaw  - 0.10.1-2
- New upstream release.
- Fix private shared object provides with python library.




 R-2.13.1-4.fc15 (FEDORA-2011-10614)
 A language for data analysis and graphics

Update Information:

- use 'less' as the default pager
- Symlink LaTeX files, and rehash on package change when possible (so 
\usepackage{Sweave} works out of the box)

ChangeLog:

* Tue Aug  9 2011 Tom Callaway  - 2.13.1-4
- fix salimma's scriptlets to be on -core instead of the metapackage
* Tue Aug  9 2011 Michel Salim  - 2.13.1-3
- Symlink LaTeX files, and rehash on package change when possible (# 630835)
* Mon Aug  8 2011 Tom Callaway  - 2.13.1-2
- add BuildRequires: less

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #630835 - Sweave style not at the good place
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630835




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Re: [Fedora QA] #222: L10N Test Day

[Fedora QA]

#222: L10N Test Day
---+
  Reporter:  noriko|   Owner:   
  Type:  task  |  Status:  new  
  Priority:  major |   Milestone:  Fedora 16
 Component:  Test Day  | Version:   
Resolution:|Keywords:   
---+
Comment (by igor):

 I created the 2011-09-22 test day page draft:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-09-22_I18n_Desktop

 I kept the input method tests cases from the previous test day and added
 the new ones. Please, take a look and make further editions, if necessary.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 15:39 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:

> I don't see how it can be a "go" if Live doesn't work without
> enforcing=0:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863
> 
> I'm surprised RC3 was rushed so quickly with no resoution to this.  I
> expect an RC4 will be necessary.

We're working on that. The reason RC3 was spun was because we thought it
was solved with an selinux-policy update that was included in RC3. This
is all documented in the bug.
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Fedora 16 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bugzilla-4.0.2-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/drupal7-7.6-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libmodplug-0.8.8.4-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zabbix-1.8.6-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libvpx-0.9.7-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openarena-0.8.5-4.fc16,quake3-1.36-11.svn2102.fc16


The following Fedora 16 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdm-3.1.2-5.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glibc-2.14.90-4.1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.3.50.20110722-4.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/filesystem-2.4.44-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libjpeg-turbo-1.1.1-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-3.0.1-3.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/redhat-rpm-config-9.1.0-15.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rpm-4.9.1-3.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/iso-codes-3.27.1-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.15.901-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.14.2-1.20110727git8c9266ed2.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mdadm-3.2.2-7.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gcc-4.6.1-7.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/wpa_supplicant-0.7.3-9.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/binutils-2.21.53.0.1-2.fc16


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 16 updates-testing

389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc16
R-2.13.1-4.fc16
abiword-2.8.6-14.fc16
alure-1.2-1.fc16
blender-2.58a-5.fc16
bzr-explorer-1.2.0-1.fc16
eclipse-gcov-0.6.0-0.1.20110718gitc011a2c7a0.fc16
eclipse-gprof-0.7.0-0.1.20110718gitc011a2c7a0.fc16
ecryptfs-utils-87-9.fc16
filesystem-2.4.44-1.fc16
gdb-7.3.50.20110722-4.fc16
gdm-3.1.2-5.fc16
geeqie-1.0-11.fc16
git-1.7.6-5.fc16
glibc-2.14.90-4.1
ibus-m17n-1.3.2-10.fc16
iwl6000g2a-firmware-17.168.5.3-1.fc16
jpanoramamaker-5-5.fc16
libepc-0.4.0-1.fc16
libev-4.04-1.fc16
libjpeg-turbo-1.1.1-1.fc16
libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc16
libvpx-0.9.7-1.fc16
link-grammar-4.7.4-1.fc16
net-snmp-5.7-5.fc16
perl-Package-Stash-0.31-1.fc16
perl-Package-Stash-XS-0.23-1.fc16
perl-Test-AutoBuild-1.2.3-1.fc16
perl-Tie-Simple-1.03-1.fc16
php-pear-Net-Sieve-1.3.2-1.fc16
polyml-5.4.1-1.fc16
qwt-5.2.2-1.fc16
rednotebook-1.1.8-1.fc16
rubygem-foreigner-1.1.1-1.fc16
thunderbird-lightning-1.0-0.47.b5rc3.fc16
tomcat-native-1.1.22-1.fc16
transfig-3.2.5d-3.fc16
unbound-1.4.12-3.fc16
xfce4-notifyd-0.2.2-1.fc16
xqilla-2.2.4-2.fc16
zabbix-1.8.6-1.fc16

Details about builds:



 389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.fc16 (FEDORA-2011-10574)
 389 Admin Server Management Console

Update Information:

UI bugfix

ChangeLog:

* Tue Aug  9 2011 Rich Megginson  - 1.1.8-1
- Bug 723126 - Configure Admin Server -> Connection Restriction --> Add Screen 
is flicking consistently.




 R-2.13.1-4.fc16 (FEDORA-2011-10562)
 A language for data analysis and graphics

Update Information:

- use 'less' as the default pager
- Symlink LaTeX files, and rehash on package change when possible (so 
\usepackage{Sweave} works out of the box)

ChangeLog:

* Tue Aug  9 2011 Tom Callaway  - 2.13.1-4
- fix salimma's scriptlets to be on -core instead of the metapackage
* Tue Aug  9 2011 Michel Salim  - 2.13.1-3
- Symlink LaTeX files, and rehash on package change when possible (# 630835)
* Mon Aug  8 2011 Tom Callaway  - 2.13.1-2
- add BuildRequires: less

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #630835 - Sweave style not at the good place
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630835




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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Clyde E. Kunkel]

On 08/09/2011 10:40 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> 
>
> if its failing please file a bug.  we cant fix the issue if we do not know 
> about
> it.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>

bz 729457 filed.

723047 filed previously.

There are a lot of other anaconda issues (bzs filed) and when I finally 
got an install done, won't boot even after following the instructions on 
the grub2 feature page.

Maybe prudence says there should be an escape method other than no 
bootloader.

I'll keep plugging away comforted with the knowledge that all of this 
will be sorted out when heavier testing by a larger group gets underway.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

[Chuck Anderson]

On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 10:05:54AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> > As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3
> > (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
> > download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
> > images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
> > for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
> > as that for install images, except with the trailing "/Fedora/" replaced
> > by "/Live/".
> 
> The only difference between RC2 and RC3 is that RC3 includes the
> libreport update which fixes
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692433 - reporting anaconda
> failures. Given the tight time before go/no-go tomorrow, I suggest we
> combine RC2 and RC3 test results: for RC3, please focus on testing
> things that haven't yet been filled in in the RC2 matrices, so between
> RC2 and RC3 we have all Alpha tests covered. And, of course, re-do the
> tests which hit 692433 in RC2 - most importantly,
> QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_bugzilla . Thanks everyone!

I don't see how it can be a "go" if Live doesn't work without
enforcing=0:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863

I'm surprised RC3 was rushed so quickly with no resoution to this.  I
expect an RC4 will be necessary.
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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 08/09/2011 11:46 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> Keywords: pattern after, might.

Can fit these words into pretty much anything really.   

>
> I suspect the actual *buntu problem may be in parted, not debian-installer. 

Ubiquity is the default Ubuntu installer,  Not d-i

> Does Anaconda not used parted?

Sure.  IIRC parted upstream is developed with good Red Hat involvement.   

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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Felix Miata]

On 2011/08/09 23:36 (GMT+0530) Rahul Sundaram composed:

> Felix Miata wrote

>>  The reason I brought this up is my assumption that Fedora's Grub2
>>  installation might pattern itself after *buntu's, which destroys OS/2 LVM
>>  information situated in the sector preceding

> Don't assume that.  The implementation of the installer is entirely
> different.  If you find issues during testing, do file them.  Needless
> to say, this can be treated as a blocker

Keywords: pattern after, might.

I suspect the actual *buntu problem may be in parted, not debian-installer. 
Does Anaconda not used parted?
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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 08/09/2011 11:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> The reason I brought this up is my assumption that Fedora's Grub2 
> installation might pattern itself after *buntu's, which destroys OS/2 LVM 
> information situated in the sector preceding

Don't assume that.  The implementation of the installer is entirely
different.  If you find issues during testing, do file them.  Needless
to say, this can be treated as a blocker

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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Felix Miata]

On 2011/08/09 13:34 (GMT-0400) James Laska composed:

> On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 11:44 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

>>  Then there needs to be an option to install no bootloader. There's no excuse
>>  for making anything so poorly documented the default anything, much less an
>>  only anything.

> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Installation_Guide/s1-x86-bootloader.html

The reason I brought this up is my assumption that Fedora's Grub2 
installation might pattern itself after *buntu's, which destroys OS/2 LVM 
information situated in the sector preceding  the EBR for /dev/XdX5 even when 
all partitioning has taken place prior to system installation, and thus 
nothing should be written regarding such base EBR sector in the MBR table. 
IOW, the *buntu process advances the first sector of the extended partition 
by one from the standard location.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/message/13672
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/message/13796
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/message/13855
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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[James Laska]

On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 11:44 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2011/08/09 10:01 (GMT-0400) James Laska composed:
> 
> > I checked in with the kind folks in #anaconda ... for fresh Fedora 16
> > installations, only grub2 will be used.
> 
> Then there needs to be an option to install no bootloader. There's no excuse 
> for making anything so poorly documented the default anything, much less an 
> only anything.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Installation_Guide/s1-x86-bootloader.html

Thanks,
James


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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3
> (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
> download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
> images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
> for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
> as that for install images, except with the trailing "/Fedora/" replaced
> by "/Live/".

The only difference between RC2 and RC3 is that RC3 includes the
libreport update which fixes
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692433 - reporting anaconda
failures. Given the tight time before go/no-go tomorrow, I suggest we
combine RC2 and RC3 test results: for RC3, please focus on testing
things that haven't yet been filled in in the RC2 matrices, so between
RC2 and RC3 we have all Alpha tests covered. And, of course, re-do the
tests which hit 692433 in RC2 - most importantly,
QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_bugzilla . Thanks everyone!
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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 09:08 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 08/09/2011 02:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 23:59 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> >> Can grub be passed to the installer to prevent grub2 being used as the
> >> bootloader?
> >
> > no. but you could do package customization, de-select grub2, and select
> > grub. (haven't tested this, but it sounds like it might work!)
> 
> Actually, I was looking for a way to *not* use grub2 during F16 install 
> as it is failing with an unknown error and you can't boot an F16 
> installation without jumping thru a bunch a hoops with a recovery cd.
> 
> Would you do package customization during the package selection phase of 
> installation?

Yes, that's what I was referring to.
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

[Andre Robatino]

As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
as that for install images, except with the trailing "/Fedora/" replaced
by "/Live/".

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Security Lab:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

task#23: Create Fedora 16 Alpha release candidate (RC) - live and
traditional
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4859

F16 Alpha Blocker tracker bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=713560

F16 Alpha Nice-To-Have tracker bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=713563

[1] http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Chris Lumens]

> > I checked in with the kind folks in #anaconda ... for fresh Fedora 16
> > installations, only grub2 will be used.
> 
> Then there needs to be an option to install no bootloader. There's no excuse 
> for making anything so poorly documented the default anything, much less an 
> only anything.

If you choose custom partitioning or to review your partition layout,
you will be dumped into the bootloader config screen later.  From there,
you can choose to not install a bootloader.

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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Felix Miata]

On 2011/08/09 10:01 (GMT-0400) James Laska composed:

> I checked in with the kind folks in #anaconda ... for fresh Fedora 16
> installations, only grub2 will be used.

Then there needs to be an option to install no bootloader. There's no excuse 
for making anything so poorly documented the default anything, much less an 
only anything.
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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Clyde E. Kunkel]

On 08/09/2011 10:40 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 08:08:33 AM Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> On 08/09/2011 02:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 23:59 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
 Can grub be passed to the installer to prevent grub2 being used as the
 bootloader?
>>>
>>> no. but you could do package customization, de-select grub2, and select
>>> grub. (haven't tested this, but it sounds like it might work!)
>>
>> Actually, I was looking for a way to *not* use grub2 during F16 install
>> as it is failing with an unknown error and you can't boot an F16
>> installation without jumping thru a bunch a hoops with a recovery cd.
>>
>> Would you do package customization during the package selection phase of
>> installation?
>
> if its failing please file a bug.  we cant fix the issue if we do not know 
> about
> it.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>

Well, I have been trying, filed one bug against grub2 and trying to get 
an install of 16 booted so I can see if there is anything there to look 
at.  Will get one filed somehow.

Suspect that --force has to be used somewhere in the install of the 
bootloader if the boot partition is other that the MBR partition.  I.e., 
F16 boot on /dev/sdf4 vice /dev/sda where the MBR is located.

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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 08:08:33 AM Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 08/09/2011 02:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 23:59 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> >> Can grub be passed to the installer to prevent grub2 being used as the
> >> bootloader?
> > 
> > no. but you could do package customization, de-select grub2, and select
> > grub. (haven't tested this, but it sounds like it might work!)
> 
> Actually, I was looking for a way to *not* use grub2 during F16 install
> as it is failing with an unknown error and you can't boot an F16
> installation without jumping thru a bunch a hoops with a recovery cd.
> 
> Would you do package customization during the package selection phase of
> installation?

if its failing please file a bug.  we cant fix the issue if we do not know 
about 
it.

Dennis


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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[James Laska]

On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 09:08 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 08/09/2011 02:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 23:59 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> >> Can grub be passed to the installer to prevent grub2 being used as the
> >> bootloader?
> >
> > no. but you could do package customization, de-select grub2, and select
> > grub. (haven't tested this, but it sounds like it might work!)
> 
> Actually, I was looking for a way to *not* use grub2 during F16 install 
> as it is failing with an unknown error and you can't boot an F16 
> installation without jumping thru a bunch a hoops with a recovery cd.

I'm not sure if this will be configurable in that manner.  The best
option at this time might be to install Fedora 15, while adding the
Fedora 16 branched repos during install.  That might not be exactly what
you want though.

> Would you do package customization during the package selection phase of 
> installation?

I checked in with the kind folks in #anaconda ... for fresh Fedora 16
installations, only grub2 will be used.

Thanks,
James


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Re: [Fedora QA] #79: Add firstboot release criteria

[Fedora QA]

#79: Add firstboot release criteria
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  Reporter:  jlaska   |   Owner:   
  Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  closed   
  Priority:  major|   Milestone:  Fedora 14
 Component:  Wiki | Version:   
Resolution:  fixed|Keywords:  retrospective
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Changes (by jlaska):

  * status:  new => closed
  * resolution:  => fixed

Comment:

 Replying to [comment:1 adamwill]:
 > Can we close this now? As I read the current criteria:
 > 
 > we specify what firstboot must be capable of: creating a user account.
 everything else can be broken.

 I think that's 'good enough' for the purposes of this ticket.  Thanks!

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Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

[Clyde E. Kunkel]

On 08/09/2011 02:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 23:59 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
>> Can grub be passed to the installer to prevent grub2 being used as the
>> bootloader?
>
> no. but you could do package customization, de-select grub2, and select
> grub. (haven't tested this, but it sounds like it might work!)

Actually, I was looking for a way to *not* use grub2 during F16 install 
as it is failing with an unknown error and you can't boot an F16 
installation without jumping thru a bunch a hoops with a recovery cd.

Would you do package customization during the package selection phase of 
installation?

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