Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 22:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 04:50 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> 
> > Anaconda is installing the mbr on the usb and with cd it still tries to 
> > install the mbr on the relevant media nor really hard to understand all 
> > blocker results.
> 
> What's hard to understand is that I can't duplicate that result: I've
> done a net install from the disc image and not seen it try to write the
> bootloader to the CD drive. I can't think of anything that would cause
> anaconda to do that. AFAIK it's not possible for it to consider an
> optical drive a valid install target. If this was a general result,
> Alpha would never have gone out...

When you got to the 'where do you want to install the bootloader
screen', what did it say, exactly? (Especially in the CD test case).
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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 05:01 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 09/18/2011 03:41 AM, Red Hat wrote:
> > I'm confused by this result, I don't know of any reason why a
> > straightforward net install from a disc would fail. What did you do
> > exactly?
> 
> Beside the point that anaconda is frelled when it comes to grub2 and 
> mbr, did you frelled up your local mailer install or are you "Red Hat" 
> now =)

Bad config in my webmail, I was typing that on someone else's
tablet...=)
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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 04:50 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:

> Anaconda is installing the mbr on the usb and with cd it still tries to 
> install the mbr on the relevant media nor really hard to understand all 
> blocker results.

What's hard to understand is that I can't duplicate that result: I've
done a net install from the disc image and not seen it try to write the
bootloader to the CD drive. I can't think of anything that would cause
anaconda to do that. AFAIK it's not possible for it to consider an
optical drive a valid install target. If this was a general result,
Alpha would never have gone out...

> What is failing is the mbr record so the question remains here how 
> prepared is anaconda for grub2.

That's a vague question: in some sense, of course it's 'prepared', how
else would any F16 install we've done at all have worked? They all use
grub 2 (except EFI).

Are there bugs? probably.

So, why ask the question? The important bit is, let's work out what the
bugs are.

I'll re-test a net install and see what happens.
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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/18/2011 03:41 AM, Red Hat wrote:
> I'm confused by this result, I don't know of any reason why a
> straightforward net install from a disc would fail. What did you do
> exactly?

Beside the point that anaconda is frelled when it comes to grub2 and 
mbr, did you frelled up your local mailer install or are you "Red Hat" 
now =)

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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/18/2011 03:41 AM, Red Hat wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:08:51 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
>> On 09/17/2011 06:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 07:52 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
 I accidentally sent this through a different address, so I think
 it's
 just going to come back to me.  If it turns out to be a double
 post,
 please forgive me.



 I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a one time fluke.  I don't have
 time
 or hardware to do several test installs, but perhaps someone else
 has
 experienced it.
>>> There is a bug report on a very similar case here:
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964
>>>
>>> it does seem like there may be an issue with the detection of
>>> whether a
>>> BIOS boot partition is necessary when installing from a USB stick.
>>> However, please do verify this with an image written via dd or
>>> livecd-iso-to-disk. We do not support unetbootin, as you said.
>> Just performed two test of an usb key both created livecd-to-iso
>>
>> One network install and another one of an usb key it self ( dvd )
>>
>> In both the installation process itself went but both times it
>> resulted
>> in anaconda installing the mbr on the usb key which leaves the user
>> with
>> unbootable system ( without the key ) and totally unrecovarable (
>> since
>> they need to shrink the primary partition to create a mbr partition
>> on
>> it ) .
>>
>> JBG
> I'm confused by this result, I don't know of any reason why a
> straightforward net install from a disc would fail. What did you do
> exactly?
>

I downloaded the netiso ran livecd to usb, performed a net install ( 
Icelandic keyboard unhased lvm otherwize default next next install ) and 
the mbr ended being installed on the usb containing the net installed 
iso resulting in a non bootable system from harddrive

Then I downloaded the fullblown dvd ran livecd to usb then performend an 
the same install and again the mbr ended up being installed on the usb 
containing the full blown dvd resulting in non bootable system.

Then I burned the net install to a cd and then ran the same install 
again which resulted in a non bootable system ( cd being non writable ).

Not complicated not hard to install all valid scenarios all resulting in 
a non bootable system on hp 620 laptop.

Heck after custom partitioning it still resulting in a non bootable 
system ( which btw all defaulting to wanting to install to the usb )

Basically the installation whent fine and that same installation 
procedure works fine of F15

Anaconda is installing the mbr on the usb and with cd it still tries to 
install the mbr on the relevant media nor really hard to understand all 
blocker results.

What is failing is the mbr record so the question remains here how 
prepared is anaconda for grub2.

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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Red Hat
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:08:51 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 09/17/2011 06:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 07:52 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
>>> I accidentally sent this through a different address, so I think 
>>> it's
>>> just going to come back to me.  If it turns out to be a double 
>>> post,
>>> please forgive me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a one time fluke.  I don't have 
>>> time
>>> or hardware to do several test installs, but perhaps someone else 
>>> has
>>> experienced it.
>> There is a bug report on a very similar case here:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964
>>
>> it does seem like there may be an issue with the detection of 
>> whether a
>> BIOS boot partition is necessary when installing from a USB stick.
>> However, please do verify this with an image written via dd or
>> livecd-iso-to-disk. We do not support unetbootin, as you said.
>
> Just performed two test of an usb key both created livecd-to-iso
>
> One network install and another one of an usb key it self ( dvd )
>
> In both the installation process itself went but both times it 
> resulted
> in anaconda installing the mbr on the usb key which leaves the user 
> with
> unbootable system ( without the key ) and totally unrecovarable ( 
> since
> they need to shrink the primary partition to create a mbr partition 
> on
> it ) .
>
> JBG
I'm confused by this result, I don't know of any reason why a 
straightforward net install from a disc would fail. What did you do 
exactly?

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Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-09-17 Thread updates
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Update Information:

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* Thu Sep 15 2011 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.1.3-5
- New upstream release 0.1.3
- Fixes a serious issue with libdhash and large initial hash sizes
* Tue Feb  8 2011 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 0.1.2-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild




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ChangeLog:

* Thu Sep 15 2011 Jaroslav Škarvada  - 1.45.05-1
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* Tue Feb  8 2011 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 1.43-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #577941 - volume mixer changes to maximum when running espeak and 
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Fedora 15 updates-testing report

2011-09-17 Thread updates
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 Pound-2.6-0.3.fc15.f (FEDORA-2011-12894)
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Update Information:

New upstream version, fixes a segfault at start.

ChangeLog:

* Sat Sep 17 2011 Ruben Kerkhof  2.6-0.3.f
- Upstream released new version
* Fri Sep 16 2011 Tom Callaway  2.6-0.2.c
- convert to systemd

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #714585 - Pound segfaults
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714585




 ding-libs-0.1.3-5.fc15 (FEDORA-2011-12893)
 "Ding is not GLib" assorted utility libraries

Update Information:

Fixes a serious bug in libdhash with very large (> 1024 slots) initial size

ChangeLog:

* Thu Sep 15 2011 Stephen Gallagher  - 0.1.3-5
- New upstream release 0.1.3
- Fixes a serious issue with libdhash and large initial hash sizes

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #735464 - dhash can corrupt memory if initial table size is large
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735464




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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/17/2011 06:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 07:52 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
>> I accidentally sent this through a different address, so I think it's
>> just going to come back to me.  If it turns out to be a double post,
>> please forgive me.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a one time fluke.  I don't have time
>> or hardware to do several test installs, but perhaps someone else has
>> experienced it.
> There is a bug report on a very similar case here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964
>
> it does seem like there may be an issue with the detection of whether a
> BIOS boot partition is necessary when installing from a USB stick.
> However, please do verify this with an image written via dd or
> livecd-iso-to-disk. We do not support unetbootin, as you said.

Just performed two test of an usb key both created livecd-to-iso

One network install and another one of an usb key it self ( dvd )

In both the installation process itself went but both times it resulted 
in anaconda installing the mbr on the usb key which leaves the user with 
unbootable system ( without the key ) and totally unrecovarable ( since 
they need to shrink the primary partition to create a mbr partition on 
it ) .

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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 07:52 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> I accidentally sent this through a different address, so I think it's
> just going to come back to me.  If it turns out to be a double post,
> please forgive me.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a one time fluke.  I don't have time
> or hardware to do several test installs, but perhaps someone else has
> experienced it.  

There is a bug report on a very similar case here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964

it does seem like there may be an issue with the detection of whether a
BIOS boot partition is necessary when installing from a USB stick.
However, please do verify this with an image written via dd or
livecd-iso-to-disk. We do not support unetbootin, as you said.
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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 04:57:44PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
> >
> >
> > What I think might have happened:
> >
> > When I got to partitioning, the USB stick was shown as /dev/sdb.  It had
> > the EFI partition on it, put there, I imagine, when Unetbootin installed
> > the netinstall.iso that I used.  Therefore, Anaconda saw that there was
> > a BIOS partition and didn't give a warning.
> >
> 
> One thing worth checking is that when you did the install running from
> a usb stick - there has been a long standing issue that the bootloader
> may get installed on the key instead of your hard drive unless you
> check and change the bootloader section when you get to that screen in
> the install process?  That has bitten me many times - and I don't know
> if that bug has been fully squashed yet?
> 

Hi Mike, thanks for the response. 

I think that's been fixed.  I do remember previously having to change
the boot order, and make sure that it wasn't installing grub on the USB
drive, so I'm pretty sure that's not relevant in this case.  


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Re: Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
>
> I accidentally sent this through a different address, so I think it's
> just going to come back to me.  If it turns out to be a double post,
> please forgive me.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a one time fluke.  I don't have time
> or hardware to do several test installs, but perhaps someone else has
> experienced it.
>
> What happened:  I used unetbootin (yes, I know it's not supported, but I
> believe dd-ing an image to USB is supported, and might have the same
> result.)
>
> I installed.  I was not notified of a problem with not having a small
> BIOS partition and thought the machine might have EFI support.
>
> After installation, I was unable to boot.  (This was at work, while
> doing several things, and didn't write down the error.)  Having seen
> some bugs having to do with SELinux, also tried to boot with enforce=0
> but no luck.
>
> I then reinstalled, this time making a 1 or 2 MB BIOS partition,  It
> installed with problem.
>
> What I think might have happened:
>
> When I got to partitioning, the USB stick was shown as /dev/sdb.  It had
> the EFI partition on it, put there, I imagine, when Unetbootin installed
> the netinstall.iso that I used.  Therefore, Anaconda saw that there was
> a BIOS partition and didn't give a warning.
>
> If this is the case, IMHO, it should just be pointed out in the release
> notes.  Ideally, Anaconda would figure it out and point it out, but I
> imagine that would be a lot of work, and it's late, and certainly not,
> again IMHO, a blocker.
>
> I reiterate, I don't know if that is what happened, it's just what I
> think happened, and perhaps there was some other thing that I missed
> that caused the first install to not boot.  Perhaps someone could test
> this--install, from a USB onto a drive with no BIOS boot partition (and
> no builtin EFI support), see if such a partition is shown on the USB
> stick and see if, after installation, it boots.
> --

One thing worth checking is that when you did the install running from
a usb stick - there has been a long standing issue that the bootloader
may get installed on the key instead of your hard drive unless you
check and change the bootloader section when you get to that screen in
the install process?  That has bitten me many times - and I don't know
if that bug has been fully squashed yet?

This may not apply in your case but is certainly worth checking.
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Re: test Digest, Vol 91, Issue 70 (dd of netinstall.iso to USB)

2011-09-17 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

>
>1. Another issue with install and GPT (Scott Robbins)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:52:55 -0400
> From: Scott Robbins 
> Subject: Another issue with install and GPT
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
>   
> Message-ID: <20110917115255.ga7...@scott1.scottro.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
> I accidentally sent this through a different address, so I think it's
> just going to come back to me.  If it turns out to be a double post,
> please forgive me.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a one time fluke.  I don't have time
> or hardware to do several test installs, but perhaps someone else has
> experienced it.  
>
> What happened:  I used unetbootin (yes, I know it's not supported, but I
> believe dd-ing an image to USB is supported, and might have the same
> result.)
>
> I installed.  I was not notified of a problem with not having a small
> BIOS partition and thought the machine might have EFI support.  
>
> After installation, I was unable to boot.  (This was at work, while
> doing several things, and didn't write down the error.)  Having seen
> some bugs having to do with SELinux, also tried to boot with enforce=0
> but no luck.
>
>   
A-) Try using dd directly:
> # dd if=Fedora-16-Beta-RC1-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=2M
> 132+0 records in
> 132+0 records out
> 276824064 bytes (277 MB) copied, 28.6564 s, 9.7 MB/s
The resulting USB Boots anaconda fine (just tested it on ACER ASPIRE ONE 
N450) used it to write to /dev/sdb (2nd target USB)
graphical desktop/customize now /sugar-desktop only
installing now

B-) Here are 2 methods that work for me on f15-f16 live isos:

1-)Booted CD: use diskutility on live CD or gparted to erase USB 
(/dev/sdb?) then format as ext4
use "liveinst" to USB custom:/ ext4 no swap
(2x time as large USB req - swap is a bad use on a USB)

2_)For fedora liveusb-creator use terminal: "liveusb-creator --reset-mbr"
choose .iso; set persistence size. ( use gparted fat formatted USB here)

Have fun

Tom Gilliard
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> I then reinstalled, this time making a 1 or 2 MB BIOS partition,  It
> installed with problem.
>
> What I think might have happened:
>
> When I got to partitioning, the USB stick was shown as /dev/sdb.  It had
> the EFI partition on it, put there, I imagine, when Unetbootin installed
> the netinstall.iso that I used.  Therefore, Anaconda saw that there was
> a BIOS partition and didn't give a warning. 
>
> If this is the case, IMHO, it should just be pointed out in the release
> notes.  Ideally, Anaconda would figure it out and point it out, but I
> imagine that would be a lot of work, and it's late, and certainly not,
> again IMHO, a blocker.
>
> I reiterate, I don't know if that is what happened, it's just what I
> think happened, and perhaps there was some other thing that I missed
> that caused the first install to not boot.  Perhaps someone could test
> this--install, from a USB onto a drive with no BIOS boot partition (and
> no builtin EFI support), see if such a partition is shown on the USB
> stick and see if, after installation, it boots.   
>   
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Re: Installing Beta RC1 (or trying)

2011-09-17 Thread Frederic Muller
On 08/17/2011 08:53 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
> On 08/11/2011 09:16 AM, Frederic Muller wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Tried to install and failed very quickly after selecting whether it was
>> an upgrade or a new install (I picked new install). It asked me for the
>> network to be able to save a trace but the "Select reporter" screen has
>> no option, and 'configure events' neither. I can only close.
>>
>> Also there is an error message right at the start of the install which
>> is systemd[0] service not started - file or directory not found.
>>
>> So RC3 didn't install at all for me.
>>
>> What should I do now?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Fred
> 
> Same with RC5. The 2 minor issues with Anaconda are still here (no
> navigation button with dual head, and no border when configuration the
> wifi network password) but I was able to file a bug this time (also it
> seemed ticking on Bugzilla, then clicking down and back on bugzilla
> disable the ability to go "forward").
> 
> Well at least I manage to file a bug this time and it said it was a new one:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731356
> 
> Note that I was installing from USB from the DVD image.
> 
> Fred

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739305 which i think is a
duplicate from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731356

I am still unable to install F16 on my T60 and this since Alpha. Could
someone look into this bug?

Fred
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Another issue with install and GPT

2011-09-17 Thread Scott Robbins

I accidentally sent this through a different address, so I think it's
just going to come back to me.  If it turns out to be a double post,
please forgive me.



I'm not sure if this is a bug, or a one time fluke.  I don't have time
or hardware to do several test installs, but perhaps someone else has
experienced it.  

What happened:  I used unetbootin (yes, I know it's not supported, but I
believe dd-ing an image to USB is supported, and might have the same
result.)

I installed.  I was not notified of a problem with not having a small
BIOS partition and thought the machine might have EFI support.  

After installation, I was unable to boot.  (This was at work, while
doing several things, and didn't write down the error.)  Having seen
some bugs having to do with SELinux, also tried to boot with enforce=0
but no luck.

I then reinstalled, this time making a 1 or 2 MB BIOS partition,  It
installed with problem.

What I think might have happened:

When I got to partitioning, the USB stick was shown as /dev/sdb.  It had
the EFI partition on it, put there, I imagine, when Unetbootin installed
the netinstall.iso that I used.  Therefore, Anaconda saw that there was
a BIOS partition and didn't give a warning. 

If this is the case, IMHO, it should just be pointed out in the release
notes.  Ideally, Anaconda would figure it out and point it out, but I
imagine that would be a lot of work, and it's late, and certainly not,
again IMHO, a blocker.

I reiterate, I don't know if that is what happened, it's just what I
think happened, and perhaps there was some other thing that I missed
that caused the first install to not boot.  Perhaps someone could test
this--install, from a USB onto a drive with no BIOS boot partition (and
no builtin EFI support), see if such a partition is shown on the USB
stick and see if, after installation, it boots.   
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