Re: Partition labels containing a slash in their names
Once upon a time, John Wendel said: > But, a partition label isn't a filename, is it? Just curious. No, but the entries in /dev/disk/by-label are. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Partition labels containing a slash in their names
On 10/28/2011 08:14 AM, John Morris wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:22 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, I'm having 2 partions on /dev/sda (sda7 and sda8) labelled as "/F15" and "/F16". I wonder about the names in /dev/disk/by-label: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Oct 27 20:12 \x2fF15 -> ../../sda7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Oct 27 20:12 \x2fF16 -> ../../sda8 I know that \x2f is equivalent to "/", so why this mapping as special char? Because the / character isn't legal in a filename, it is reserved as the path separator. So it must be escaped or you could never access it. How did the filesystems get such a label in the first place? Any automated system that did it should have a bug filed against it since it is going to cause no end of confusion. If you did it, well don't do that anymore. :) But, a partition label isn't a filename, is it? Just curious. John -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Blocker fix karma request
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 16:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, folks! We could really do with karma on these updates: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-15042 (kdepimlibs) > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/qt-4.8.0-0.23.rc1.fc16 > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-15038 (parted) use > my boot.iso from earlier to test > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.21-8.fc16 > > these are all blocker fixes that need karma to be pushed stable and help > clear the blocker list, thanks! Two more for the list: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mesa-7.11-8.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-15040 with these karma'ed up we should be able to spin rc1 at last! thanks all. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
[Test-Announce] Blocker fix karma request
Hey, folks! We could really do with karma on these updates: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-15042 (kdepimlibs) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/qt-4.8.0-0.23.rc1.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-15038 (parted) use my boot.iso from earlier to test https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.21-8.fc16 these are all blocker fixes that need karma to be pushed stable and help clear the blocker list, thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Screen Problem
> Thanks Jonathan! > > I will try that and report back later if I resolve it for > good. > > Regards, > > Antonio > -- Jonathan, That did the job! Thank you very much for your help. I could not find it for two days :( Now it is back to normal. Regards, Antonio -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Screen Problem
--- On Fri, 10/28/11, Jonathan Kamens wrote: From: Jonathan Kamens Subject: Re: Screen Problem To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" Date: Friday, October 28, 2011, 8:50 AM Look in the upper right corner of the screen: jik On 10/27/2011 09:12 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear folks, I have several machines running Fedora 16 fully updated to today's updates. All have been behaving well, except for one. The output on the screen is very big. I have to use the mouse to scroll to see the activities button and to shutdown. A student was using the machine when all of a sudden the screen became big. I try to use another monitor and it does the same thing. How can I reset the picture? The screen capabilities are 1600x900, running Gnome 3.2, it seems that the magnifier is on, if it is how can I turn it off? I appreciate your help/advice/comments. Regards, Antonio -Inline Attachment Follows- Thanks Jonathan! I will try that and report back later if I resolve it for good. Regards, Antonio -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
F16 Final Blocker Bug Review #5 Minutes
= #fedora-bugzappers: f16final-blocker0review-5 = Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-10-28/f16final-blocker-review-5.2011-10-28-17.03.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-10-28/f16final-blocker-review-5.2011-10-28-17.03.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-10-28/f16final-blocker-review-5.2011-10-28-17.03.log.html Meeting summary --- * roll call (tflink, 17:03:40) * Introduction (tflink, 17:08:09) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:08:15) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:08:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:09:05) * 4 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:09:18) * 12 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:09:18) * 13 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:09:20) * (748747) Gstreamer-based apps don't display video when using software 3D rendering (clutter involved) (tflink, 17:09:51) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748747 (tflink, 17:09:55) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:09:57) * AGREED: - 748747 - We need more information on what the fix would entail before moving forward on this one, will follow and vote in bz (tflink, 17:13:46) * (748920) Setting back time breaks boot (tflink, 17:14:37) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748920 (tflink, 17:14:37) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:14:39) * AGREED: - 748920 - This is looking like not a blocker right now but it would be nice to get dev input before making a decision (tflink, 17:21:49) * (749516) date doesn't set persistent date (tflink, 17:21:55) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749516 (tflink, 17:21:55) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:21:55) * AGREED: - 749516 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the release criteria and can be fixed post-release (tflink, 17:25:50) * (749647) [GD5446_KVM]Â KDE fails to start in side a VM using the cirrus driver and 'raster' Qt renderer (tflink, 17:25:58) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749647 (tflink, 17:26:02) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:26:04) * AGREED: - 749647 - AcceptedBlocker - Following on from the previous criterion, after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention. This includes correctly accessing any encrypted partitions when the correct passphrase (tflink, 17:28:32) * (668282) PackageKit yum backend uses incorrect encoding for dynamic category names, makes them show up with '?' characters in KPackageKit (tflink, 17:29:12) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668282 (tflink, 17:29:15) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:29:17) * AGREED: - 668282 - This appears to be fixed in TC3, move to VERIFIED after checking fix in TC3 (tflink, 17:31:02) * (740062) fcoe.py fails to detect FCoE NIC due to extraneous newline character (tflink, 17:31:09) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740062 (tflink, 17:31:12) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:31:15) * AGREED: - 740062 - This still needs to be verified by someone with the appropriate HW, ask reporter to re-test with TC3 (tflink, 17:33:58) * (748587) Detection of live images / USB keys broken in F16 Final TC2 (tflink, 17:34:04) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748587 (tflink, 17:34:07) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:34:10) * AGREED: - 748587 - Move to VERIFIED after more testing in TC3 - the fix is enough for release. Open a new bug for the remaining concern (tflink, 17:39:33) * (749325) Lenovo Thinkpads should be blacklisted to ms-dos labels (tflink, 17:39:39) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749325 (tflink, 17:39:43) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:39:45) * AGREED: - 749325 - Needs testing with TC3 (tflink, 17:41:17) * (749661) repoclosure failure on 16.TC3 DVD - PackageKit-zif-0.6.19-3.fc16 requires zif >= 0:0.2.5 (tflink, 17:41:24) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749661 (tflink, 17:41:27) * Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:41:30) * AGREED: - 749661 - Sounds like fix is in progress. Fix to DVD compose and push zif-0.2.5-1.fc16 to stable (tflink, 17:44:32) * (736893) New Install of Fedora 16 TC1 on iBFT iSCSI NIC fails on first
RE: New proventester metrics
> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:06:10 -0400 > From: lmac...@redhat.com > To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: New proventester metrics > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:45:58AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 10:52 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > > > > > Out of 23255 total updates, 6375 received feedback (27.41%) > > > Out of 1259 total unique karma submitters, the top 50 are: > > > * autoqa (28787) > > > > This implies that this is really 'top 50 commenters' not 'top 50 karma > > submitters', because autoqa does not currently submit any karma. > > Yup, you're right. I just fixed the name of the stat in git, and also > made it ignore autoqa comments as well. > > Thanks, > luke I'm still in the top 20, and considering that all of mine save a very few are F15... John. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F16: window manager for xfce has disappeared
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 13:28 -0400, sean darcy wrote: > Yes, yum groupinstall kde-desktop works. But I'd never have found it > without your help: > > yum grouplist | grep KDE > KDE Software Compilation > KDE Software Development It's 'KDE Software Compilation' (kde-desktop is the short name for that group). That's the official upstream name for the whole KDE ball o' wax, I believe, though it's obviously a bit confusing if you read it and think 'compiler'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F16: window manager for xfce has disappeared
On 10/28/2011 11:25 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:55:42 -0400 > sean darcy wrote: > >> Running XFCE. yum upgrade'd yesterday, now there's no window manager. >> Stuck using gnome. >> >> What is the xfce wm? And where is it turned on? > > It's xfwm4, and it should run by default. > > In the event your session had it crash and you then logged out it may > have saved the session without it. Login and use a terminal to run > 'xfwm4&' or remove your old session file. Once I logged in, I couldn't type in a terminal. CTL-ALT-BACKSPACE, deleted ~/.cache/sessions/xfce* (which took me forever to find!). That worked, thanks. > >> BTW: >> >> switchdesk kde >> Red Hat Linux switchdesk 4.0 >> Copyright (C) 1999-2010 Red Hat, Inc >> Redistributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License >> ERROR: KDE is not installed on your machine! to install KDE, please >> type yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" >> >> yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" >> Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit >> Setting up Group Process >> Warning: Group KDE (K Desktop Environment) does not exist. >> No packages in any requested group available to install or update > > It's not called that anymore. > >> and yum groupinstall kde fails with broken deps! > > I'd suggest 'yum groupinstall kde-desktop' > > kevin > Yes, yum groupinstall kde-desktop works. But I'd never have found it without your help: yum grouplist | grep KDE KDE Software Compilation KDE Software Development sean -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Fedora 14 updates-testing report
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/moodle-1.9.14-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/hardlink-1.0-12.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.4.2-6.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xmlrpc3-3.0-6.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ocsinventory-1.3.3-5.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdeutils-4.6.5-3.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/phpldapadmin-1.2.1.1-2.20111006= git.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-5.12.4-147.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/puppet-2.6.12-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cherokee-1.2.101-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/krb5-1.8.4-3.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/arora-0.11.0-3.fc14 The following Fedora 14 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.8.5.93-1.fc14,= NetworkManager-vpnc-0.8.5.93-1.fc14,NetworkManager-openvpn-0.8.5.93-1.fc14,= NetworkManager-pptp-0.8.5.93-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/qt-4.7.4-4.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libdrm-2.4.22-2.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdelibs-4.6.5-7.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.4.2-6.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-slip-0.2.18-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/orc-0.4.16-3.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cryptopp-5.6.1-5.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/parted-2.3-5.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-softokn-3.12.10-5.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-config-date-1.9.67-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-14.5-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lldpad-0.9.41-4.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ModemManager-0.4.998-1.git20110= 706.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mash-0.5.22-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/policycoreutils-2.0.85-30.3.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904= -8.fc14.2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-14.= 20101010git8c8f15c.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libconcord-0.23-5.fc14,udev-161= -9.fc14,concordance-0.23-2.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cairomm-1.9.8-2.fc14.2,libsigc+= +20-2.2.8-1.fc14.1,gstreamermm-0.10.8-2.fc14.1,goocanvasmm-0.15.4-2.fc14,gt= kmm24-2.22.0-2.fc14.2,atkmm-2.22.2-2.fc14.1,glibmm24-2.24.2-2.fc14.1 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 14 updates-testing NetworkManager-0.8.5.93-1.fc14 NetworkManager-openvpn-0.8.5.93-1.fc14 NetworkManager-pptp-0.8.5.93-1.fc14 NetworkManager-vpnc-0.8.5.93-1.fc14 bodhi-0.8.3-1.fc14 geany-plugins-0.21-2.fc14 ghc-cryptohash-0.7.4-1.fc14 ghc-wai-extra-0.3.2.1-1.fc14 hplip-3.11.10-5.fc14 kdeutils-4.6.5-3.fc14 libuninum-2.7-9.fc14 ocsinventory-1.3.3-5.fc14 olpc-utils-1.3.7-1.fc14 openscap-0.8.0-1.fc14 perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.41-1.fc14 phpldapadmin-1.2.1.1-2.20111006git.fc14 puppet-2.6.12-1.fc14 qt-4.7.4-4.fc14 recoll-1.16.1-2.fc14 rmol-0.25.0-1.fc14 samtools-0.1.18-2.fc14 scap-workbench-0.5.1-1.fc14 ssldump-0.9-0.4.b3.fc14 system-config-printer-1.2.9-1.fc14 thai-scalable-fonts-0.4.16-1.fc14 vacation-1.2.7.1-0.4.beta2.fc14 Details about builds: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D NetworkManager-0.8.5.93-1.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-14990) Network connection manager and user applications ---= - Update Information: This update fixes stability issues and provides various enhancements, inclu= ding larger dnsmasq cache size, IPv6 addressing fixes, fixed handling of ho= stnames from DHCP servers, and auto-unlocking of GSM modems. It also bring= s various enhancements to the VPN plugins. ---= - ChangeLog: * Tue Oct 25 2011 Dan Williams - 0.8.5.93-1 - Update to 0.8.5.93 (0.8.6-rc2) - core: fix crash when a client requests the "Uuid" property of an active V= PN connection - core: bump dnsmasq cache size - core: make sure IPv6 routes are flushed for manual configurations - core: fix possible crash when starting ModemManager - core: accept IPv6 RAs when forwarding is on - core: fix setting hostname from DHCP options (rh #719100) - core: fix changing WPA connections to WEP - applet: show active VPN connections in the Connection Information dialog - applet: auto-unlock GSM modems when requested -
Fedora 15 updates-testing report
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/moodle-1.9.14-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.4.4-6.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/hardlink-1.0-12.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tomcat6-6.0.32-10.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ocsinventory-1.3.3-5.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdeutils-4.6.5-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/phpldapadmin-1.2.1.1-2.20111006= git.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/krb5-1.9.1-14.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/asterisk-1.8.7.1-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/puppet-2.6.12-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cherokee-1.2.101-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/arora-0.11.0-3.fc15 The following Fedora 15 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.3.1-45.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/qt-4.7.4-4.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/accountsservice-0.6.14-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sendmail-8.14.5-2.fc15.2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mdadm-3.2.2-12.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libdrm-2.4.26-2.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/soprano-2.6.0-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kdelibs-4.6.5-7.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/freetype-2.4.4-6.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.9.16-44.fc15,f= reeipa-2.1.3-2.fc15,389-ds-base-1.2.10-0.4.a4.fc15,sssd-1.5.14-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-slip-0.2.18-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tzdata-2011l-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cronie-1.4.8-4.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/orc-0.4.16-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/cryptopp-5.6.1-5.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/parted-2.3-11.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nss-softokn-3.12.10-5.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initscripts-9.30.1-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libXi-1.4.3-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-setup-keyboard-0.8.8-1.f= c15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glibc-2.14.1-1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/abrt-2.0.3-5.fc15,libreport-2.0= .4-4.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-config-date-1.9.67-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.14.2-1.20110= 921gitd78860ba5.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-15.10-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.5.90= -2.fc15,phonon-4.5.57-1.20110914.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/evolution-data-server-3.0.3.1-1= .fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.0.21-5.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openldap-2.4.24-5.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/evolution-mapi-3.0.3-2.fc15,evo= lution-exchange-3.0.3-1.fc15,evolution-3.0.3-1.fc15,evolution-data-server-3= .0.3-1.fc15,gtkhtml3-4.0.2-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/nspr-4.8.8-4.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mash-0.5.22-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904= -14.fc15.1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libfprint-0.4.0-1.fc15,fprintd-= 0.4.1-1.fc15 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 15 updates-testing bodhi-0.8.3-1.fc15 clive-2.3.2-1.fc15 cronie-1.4.8-4.fc15 crudminer-0.3.2-2.fc15 gdb-7.3.1-45.fc15 geany-plugins-0.21-2.fc15 ghc-cryptohash-0.7.4-1.fc15 ghc-wai-extra-0.4.3-1.fc15 gnucash-2.4.8-1.fc15 google-perftools-1.8.3-2.fc15 grisbi-0.8.8-1.fc15 hplip-3.11.10-5.fc15 kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.63.beta2.nm09.fc15 kdeutils-4.6.5-3.fc15 libuninum-2.7-9.fc15 monkeystudio-1.9.0.1-1.20111024svn4332.fc15 mpop-1.0.25-1.fc15 nomnom-0.2.0-1.fc15 ocsinventory-1.3.3-5.fc15 perl-DateTime-TimeZone-1.41-1.fc15 perl-HTML-FormHandler-0.35005-1.fc15 phpldapadmin-1.2.1.1-2.20111006git.fc15 puppet-2.6.12-1.fc15 python-postman-0.5.2-3.fc15 qt-4.7.4-4.fc15 recoll-1.16.1-2.fc15 samtools-0.1.18-2.fc15 ssldump-0.9-0.4.b3.fc15 thai-scalable-fonts-0.4.16-1.fc15 tomcat6-6.0.32-10.fc15 usb_modeswitch-1.2.0-1.fc15 usb_modeswitch-data-20111023-1.fc15 vacation-1.2.7.1-0.4.beta2.fc15 yum-langpacks-0.2.4-1.fc15 Details about builds: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D bodhi-0.8.3-1.fc15 (FEDORA-2011-14958) A
Re: New proventester metrics
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:45:58AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 10:52 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > > > Out of 23255 total updates, 6375 received feedback (27.41%) > > Out of 1259 total unique karma submitters, the top 50 are: > > * autoqa (28787) > > This implies that this is really 'top 50 commenters' not 'top 50 karma > submitters', because autoqa does not currently submit any karma. Yup, you're right. I just fixed the name of the stat in git, and also made it ignore autoqa comments as well. Thanks, luke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New proventester metrics
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 10:52 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > Out of 23255 total updates, 6375 received feedback (27.41%) > Out of 1259 total unique karma submitters, the top 50 are: > * autoqa (28787) This implies that this is really 'top 50 commenters' not 'top 50 karma submitters', because autoqa does not currently submit any karma. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New proventester metrics
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 10:52 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > Here are some fresh metrics generated today containing some new proventester > data. > > Eventually these reports will be automatically generated and exposed via the > bodhi web interface. In the mean time, suggestions for new statistics to keep > track of are welcome. Awesome stuff, thanks Luke! All work is on F16 Final ATM but I'll try and remember to come back to this later. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
[Test-Announce] boot.iso testing for parted blocker fix update
We have a parted update to fix a new blocker: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=747497 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/parted-3.0-4.fc16 I've built a boot.iso with the updated parted for testing, it's available here: http://adamwill.fedorapeople.org/20111027_preRC1.x64.boot.iso please give it a shot and upkarma the parted update if it looks okay. You can try to test the fix by installing into free space alongside some existing partitions, and checking the installation doesn't change the flags on the existing partitions. thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
[Test-Announce] Remaining F16 blockers and F16 planning (2011-10-27)
[meant to go out last night but failed thanks to internet connection silliness] Yes, it's episode three of the blockbuster 'Remaining F16 blockers' trilogy - thanks for lining up all week, folks, have a complimentary small popcorn. As mentioned last time, we span a TC3 image for testing while we try to zap the remaining blockers: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16.TC3/ It has the rebuilt glibc and all affected packages rebuilt against that glibc. See the TC3 announce for more details. Onto the main event! 1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749661 "repoclosure failure on 16.TC3 DVD - PackageKit-zif-0.6.19-3.fc16 requires zif >= 0:0.2.5" This is new in TC3, but it's straightforward and should be easy to solve for the next compose. No action really needed. 2. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736893 "New Install of Fedora 16 TC1 on iBFT iSCSI NIC fails on first reboot" We've got more data on this one since last time; given that data it'll likely get dropped from the blocker list, but we'll poke it a bit more first to make sure. 3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731245 "KDE fails to start inside a VM , large amount of memory [@ miCopyRegion]" We've had some progress on this one today but it still needs work; with qxl driver, KDE no longer crashes, but has serious rendering problems. We also determined the issue with the cirrus driver (which is used in older KVM configs, and 32-bit VMs) is separate and needs to be addressed separately. Soren says he hopes to have this fixed early tomorrow. 4. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749618 "Mimetype tree is not a DAG!" errors + crashes when using SMI 0.91" This causes crashes in some KDE apps, it's already fixed, so the only action is to pull in the fixed build for the next compose. 5. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749647 "KDE fails to start in side a VM using the cirrus driver and 'raster' Qt renderer" This is the cirrus KDE bug: we need X developers to fix this if possible. I've tried to contact all who may be able to work on it, including upstream. 6. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748920 "Setting back time breaks boot" We've worked out more stuff about this one since yesterday; we may be able to declare it not a blocker based on the various workarounds available, but we could really do with input from Lennart on why systemd apparently doesn't provide the emergency mode sometimes when systemd-fsck fails. 7. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748747 "Totem doesn't display video when using software 3D rendering" We're still really waiting on ajax (or anyone)... to fix this one. We've confirmed that every test case we've tried with no hardware-accelerated 3D rendering causes broken gstreamer video. 8. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749516 "date doesn't set persistent date" This is newly proposed and could do with more info, but may well not really be serious enough to take as a blocker. We're obviously pushing the F16 schedule quite hard at this point, but we can still stay on track if we manage to get all the blockers addressed tomorrow; we will try to get all validation tests done against TC3 so we can be reasonably sure there are no other blockers lurking, and that should give us a reasonable chance at spinning an RC1 with the extra fixes that passes testing on the first try. Please, help out with any of the above bugs you can. Thanks everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F16: window manager for xfce has disappeared
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:55:42 -0400 sean darcy wrote: > Running XFCE. yum upgrade'd yesterday, now there's no window manager. > Stuck using gnome. > > What is the xfce wm? And where is it turned on? It's xfwm4, and it should run by default. In the event your session had it crash and you then logged out it may have saved the session without it. Login and use a terminal to run 'xfwm4 &' or remove your old session file. > BTW: > > switchdesk kde > Red Hat Linux switchdesk 4.0 > Copyright (C) 1999-2010 Red Hat, Inc > Redistributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License > ERROR: KDE is not installed on your machine! to install KDE, please > type yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" > > yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" > Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit > Setting up Group Process > Warning: Group KDE (K Desktop Environment) does not exist. > No packages in any requested group available to install or update It's not called that anymore. > and yum groupinstall kde fails with broken deps! I'd suggest 'yum groupinstall kde-desktop' kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Partition labels containing a slash in their names
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 09:22 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having 2 partions on /dev/sda (sda7 and sda8) labelled as "/F15" and > "/F16". I wonder about the names in /dev/disk/by-label: > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Oct 27 20:12 \x2fF15 -> ../../sda7 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Oct 27 20:12 \x2fF16 -> ../../sda8 > > I know that \x2f is equivalent to "/", so why this mapping as special char? Because the / character isn't legal in a filename, it is reserved as the path separator. So it must be escaped or you could never access it. How did the filesystems get such a label in the first place? Any automated system that did it should have a bug filed against it since it is going to cause no end of confusion. If you did it, well don't do that anymore. :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
F16: window manager for xfce has disappeared
Running XFCE. yum upgrade'd yesterday, now there's no window manager. Stuck using gnome. What is the xfce wm? And where is it turned on? BTW: switchdesk kde Red Hat Linux switchdesk 4.0 Copyright (C) 1999-2010 Red Hat, Inc Redistributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License ERROR: KDE is not installed on your machine! to install KDE, please type yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Group Process Warning: Group KDE (K Desktop Environment) does not exist. No packages in any requested group available to install or update and yum groupinstall kde fails with broken deps! sean -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
New proventester metrics
Here are some fresh metrics generated today containing some new proventester data. Eventually these reports will be automatically generated and exposed via the bodhi web interface. In the mean time, suggestions for new statistics to keep track of are welcome. luke Fedora 16 * 2760 updates * 2241 packages updated * 2138 stable updates * 270 testing updates * 67 pending updates * 285 obsolete updates * 1757 bugfix updates (63.66%) * 648 enhancement updates (23.48%) * 96 security updates (3.48%) * 259 newpackage updates (9.38%) * 1811 bugs resolved * 413 critical path updates (14.96%) * 334 approved critical path updates * 0 unapproved critical path updates * 922 updates received feedback (33.41%) * 8994 +0 comments * 1837 +1 comments * 139 -1 comments * 327 unique authenticated karma submitters * 44 proventesters * 957 +1's from proventesters * 37 -1's from proventesters * 10 critpath updates with conflicting proventesters (2.42% of critpath) * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-logos-16.0.0-1.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/caribou-0.4.1-1.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glibc-2.14.90-12.999 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.6.19-2.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dracut-013-1.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libusb1-1.0.9-0.2.git212ca37c.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dnsmasq-2.58-1.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/grub2-1.99-7.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.6.18-1.fc16 * 7 critpath updates with positive karma and negative proventester feedback (1.69% of critpath) * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-logos-16.0.0-1.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/caribou-0.4.1-1.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glibc-2.14.90-12.999 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.6.19-2.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libusb1-1.0.9-0.2.git212ca37c.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc16 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/grub2-1.99-7.fc16 * 313 critpath updates with positive karma and positive proventester feedback (75.79% of critpath) * 35 anonymous users gave feedback (0.32%) * 464 updates reached the stable karma threshold (21.70%) * 1618 updates reached the minimum time in testing threshold (75.68%) * 1410 went from testing to stable *without* karma (67.59%) * 4 updates were pushed to stable with negative karma (0.19%) * 22 critical path updates pushed to stable *without* karma * Time spent in testing: * mean = 13 days * median = 11 days * mode = 8 days Fedora 15 * 6543 updates * 3847 packages updated * 5759 stable updates * 244 testing updates * 33 pending updates * 507 obsolete updates * 4176 bugfix updates (63.82%) * 1349 enhancement updates (20.62%) * 281 security updates (4.29%) * 737 newpackage updates (11.26%) * 4398 bugs resolved * 926 critical path updates (14.15%) * 799 approved critical path updates * 0 unapproved critical path updates * 2365 updates received feedback (36.15%) * 13839 +0 comments * 4800 +1 comments * 598 -1 comments * 700 unique authenticated karma submitters * 61 proventesters * 2368 +1's from proventesters * 127 -1's from proventesters * 22 critpath updates with conflicting proventesters (2.38% of critpath) * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.9.16-32.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.40-4.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.0.4-2.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-themes-standard-2.91.92.1-3.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.8.9997-6.git20110721.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/anaconda-15.24-1.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/caribou-0.2.00-2.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/accountsservice-0.6.5-1.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/systemd-22-1.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/systemd-21-2.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-panel-3.0.0.1-4.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glibc-2.14-2 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.9.16-18.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.8.999-1.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/file-5.07-1.fc15 * https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.38.5-24.
F-16 Branched report: 20111028 changes
Compose started at Fri Oct 28 08:15:48 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- PackageKit-zif-0.6.19-2.fc16.x86_64 requires zif >= 0:0.2.5 bibletime-2.8.1-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libclucene.so.0()(64bit) cluster-snmp-0.18.7-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libnetsnmp.so.25()(64bit) comoonics-cdsl-py-0.2-18.noarch requires comoonics-base-py comoonics-cluster-py-0.1-24.noarch requires comoonics-base-py contextkit-0.5.15-2.fc15.i686 requires libcdb.so.1 contextkit-0.5.15-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libcdb.so.1()(64bit) dh-make-0.55-3.fc15.noarch requires debhelper dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-tks-theme >= 0:9.0.9 dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-ra-theme >= 0:9.0.9 dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-kra-theme >= 0:9.0.9 dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-tps-theme >= 0:9.0.9 dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-console-theme >= 0:9.0.9 dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-ocsp-theme >= 0:9.0.9 dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-common-theme >= 0:9.0.9 dogtag-pki-9.0.0-7.fc16.noarch requires dogtag-pki-ca-theme >= 0:9.0.9 emacs-spice-mode-1.2.25-5.fc15.noarch requires gwave fawkes-plugin-player-0.4.2-6.fc16.x86_64 requires libgeos-3.3.0.so()(64bit) fldigi-3.21.7-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libfltk_images.so.1.1()(64bit) fldigi-3.21.7-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libfltk.so.1.1()(64bit) freeipa-client-2.1.3-4.fc16.x86_64 requires xmlrpc-c >= 0:1.27.4 gmediaserver-0.13.0-7.fc15.x86_64 requires libthreadutil.so.2()(64bit) gmediaserver-0.13.0-7.fc15.x86_64 requires libupnp.so.3()(64bit) gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libgpilotd.so.5()(64bit) gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libgpilotdcm.so.4()(64bit) gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libgpilotdconduit.so.3()(64bit) gold-2.1.12.2-7.fc16.noarch requires perl(Data::Properties) gphpedit-0.9.95-0.2.20090209snap.fc15.x86_64 requires libgtkhtml-2.so.0()(64bit) gpx-viewer-0.2.0-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libchamplain-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit) gpx-viewer-0.2.0-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libchamplain-0.6.so.0()(64bit) gpx-viewer-0.2.0-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libgdl-1.so.3()(64bit) gscribble-0.1.2-1.fc16.noarch requires gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 gspiceui-0.9.98-3.fc15.x86_64 requires gwave hosts3d-1.13-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libglfw.so.2.6()(64bit) hosts3d-sampler-1.13-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libglfw.so.2.6()(64bit) intellij-idea-9.0.1.94.399-12.fc15.x86_64 requires commons-collections kde-partitionmanager-1.0.3-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libparted.so.0()(64bit) libnatus-V8-0.1.5-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libv8-3.0.0.1.so()(64bit) mediawiki-rss-1.5-4.fc15.noarch requires php-magpierss >= 0:0.72 meego-panel-applications-0.2.5-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libgnome-menu.so.2()(64bit) meego-panel-datetime-0.3.2-8.fc16.x86_64 requires libcogl.so.2()(64bit) meego-panel-status-0.3.2-2.fc15.i686 requires libchamplain-0.8.so.1 meego-panel-status-0.3.2-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libchamplain-0.8.so.1()(64bit) meshlab-1.2.2-5.fc14.1.x86_64 requires libGLEW.so.1.5()(64bit) mumble-1.2.3-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libprotobuf.so.6()(64bit) murmur-1.2.3-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libprotobuf.so.6()(64bit) network-manager-netbook-1.8-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libnm-glib.so.2()(64bit) network-manager-netbook-1.8-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libnm-util.so.1()(64bit) pcp-import-sheet2pcp-3.5.0-1.2.fc16.x86_64 requires perl(Spreadsheet::Read) perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) pida-0.5.1-13.fc15.x86_64 requires gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 pinot-deskbar-0.97-1.fc16.x86_64 requires deskbar-applet player-3.0.2-13.fc16.i686 requires libgeos-3.3.0.so player-3.0.2-13.fc16.x86_64 requires libgeos-3.3.0.so()(64bit) pytrainer-1.7.2-2.fc15.noarch requires gnome-python2-gtkmozembed qtgpsc-0.2.3-6.fc12.x86_64 requires libgps.so.18()(64bit) qtparted-0.4.5-26.fc15.x86_64 requires libparted.so.0()(64bit) rubygem-aeolus-cli-0.1.0-5.fc16.noarch requires rubygem(aeolus-image) >= 0:0.1.0 rubygem-webmock-1.7.6-2.fc16.noarch requires rubygem(addressable) > 0:2.2.5 rubygem-webmock-1.7.6-2.fc16.noarch requires rubygem(addressable) < 0:3 rubygem-webmock-1.7.6-2.fc16.noarch requires rubygem(addressable) >= 0:2.2 spacewalk-backend-tools-1.4.39-1.fc16.noarch requires spacewalk-admin >= 0:0.1.1-0 taoframework-glfw-2.1.0-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libglfw tasque-0.1.9-5.fc15.x86_64 requires mono(evolution-sharp) = 0:5.0.0.0
Epiphany fails to show HTML5 video under LXDE
Anyone else had a similar issue? It seems telling that it appears only under LXDE, and not Gnome. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749223 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Partition labels containing a slash in their names
Hi, I'm having 2 partions on /dev/sda (sda7 and sda8) labelled as "/F15" and "/F16". I wonder about the names in /dev/disk/by-label: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Oct 27 20:12 \x2fF15 -> ../../sda7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Oct 27 20:12 \x2fF16 -> ../../sda8 I know that \x2f is equivalent to "/", so why this mapping as special char? The other labels are OK. Kind regards -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
