Re: Release criterion proposal: betanag removal

2011-11-30 Thread Kamil Paral
 A straightforward release criterion proposal: we should have a
 criterion
 just to specify that the anaconda betanag screen (and any others we
 put
 in) should be removed for final. Right now this is one of those
 things
 that's just obvious but that we ought to write down somewhere. How
 about, in the Final criteria, simply:
 
 * No notices or alerts about pre-release status should be present
 
 Comments, suggestions, etc? Thanks!

I thought we had it, but we don't! ACKed
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Re: proposal for naming blocker and NTH bugs

2011-11-30 Thread Kamil Paral
 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 02:51, Andre Robatino
 robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  17Alpha
  17AlphaNTH
  17Beta
  17BetaNTH
  17Final (or alternatively 17)
  17FinalNTH (or alternatively 17NTH)
 
 Why not:
 17AlphaBlocker
 17AlphaNTH
 17BetaBlocker
 17BetaNTH
 17FinalBlocker
 17FinalNTH
 ... verbosity can be such a great thing! ;) Maybe even consider
 expanding NTH, i.e. 17FinalNiceToHave. The more people understand
 without looking things up, the better.
 
 Personally, I'd stick with F17 instead of 17, but can't find any very
 good reason (either way) :)

They field is called Blocks:, so there doesn't need to be Blocker suffix. I 
think this is pretty self-explanatory:

Blocks: F17Beta

I would also add F-prefix, it just looks better.

Whether to use Andre's or Sandro's proposal, I don't care. But I agree they are 
more obvious than current naming scheme. The -accepted word makes you think 
those blockers were accepted, and it's not the case. They are just NTH.
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Re: Release criterion proposal: betanag removal

2011-11-30 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 18:21 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
 A straightforward release criterion proposal: we should have a criterion
 just to specify that the anaconda betanag screen (and any others we put
 in) should be removed for final. Right now this is one of those things
 that's just obvious but that we ought to write down somewhere. How
 about, in the Final criteria, simply:
 
 * No notices or alerts about pre-release status should be present

Yea that might be one of those last step things that needs to be on the
list before going final or at least the final spins are created.  Hell,
just to give it a little more time, could do it before the RC's are
created since they are pretty much final.  


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Todays yum dependency update issues....

2011-11-30 Thread Kevin Martin
Skipped (dependency problems):
 boost-serializationx86_64 1.48.0-2.fc17

rawhide   158 k
 gvfs   x86_64 1.11.0-4.fc17

fedora991 k
 gvfs-afp   x86_64 1.11.0-4.fc17

fedora107 k
 kernel-debuginfo   x86_64 
3.2.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc17  
rawhide-debuginfo 280 M
 kernel-debuginfo-common-x86_64 x86_64 
3.2.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc17  
rawhide-debuginfo  39 M
 kernel-tools-debuginfo x86_64 
3.2.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc17  
rawhide-debuginfo  83 k
 libcddbx86_64 1.3.2-6.fc17 

fedora 66 k
 libcdiox86_64 0.83-1.fc17  

fedora252 k
 startup-notification   x86_64 0.12-2.fc17  

rawhide36 k
 xcb-util   x86_64 0.3.8-1.fc17 

rawhide13 k
 xorg-x11-drv-apm   x86_64 1.2.3-10.fc17

fedora 56 k
 xorg-x11-drv-ast   x86_64 0.93.9-2.fc17

fedora 36 k
 xorg-x11-drv-ati   x86_64 
6.14.3-3.2025git534fb6e41.fc17   
rawhide   393 k
 xorg-x11-drv-cirrusx86_64 1.3.2-13.fc17

rawhide36 k
 xorg-x11-drv-dummy x86_64 0.3.4-9.fc17 

fedora 12 k
 xorg-x11-drv-evdev x86_64 
2.6.99-4.2010gita9cdb6590.fc17   
fedora 35 k
 xorg-x11-drv-fbdev x86_64 0.4.2-4.fc17 

fedora 16 k
 xorg-x11-drv-glint x86_64 1.2.6-3.fc17 

fedora 78 k
 xorg-x11-drv-i128  x86_64 1.3.4-12.fc17

fedora 28 k
 xorg-x11-drv-i740  x86_64 1.3.2-11.fc17

fedora 26 k
 xorg-x11-drv-intel x86_64 2.17.0-3.fc17

rawhide   198 k
 xorg-x11-drv-keyboard  x86_64 1.6.0-4.fc17 

fedora 16 k
 xorg-x11-drv-mach64x86_64 6.9.0-4.fc17 

fedora 86 k
 xorg-x11-drv-mga   x86_64 1.4.13-11.fc17   

fedora 81 k
 xorg-x11-drv-mouse x86_64 1.7.1-4.fc17 

fedora 31 k
 xorg-x11-drv-nouveau   x86_64 
1:0.0.16-29.20110720gitb806e3f.fc17  
fedora 96 k
 xorg-x11-drv-openchromex86_64 0.2.904-18.fc17  

fedora149 k
 xorg-x11-drv-qxl   x86_64 0.0.21-11.fc17   

fedora 93 k
 xorg-x11-drv-r128  x86_64 6.8.1-13.fc17

fedora 50 k
 xorg-x11-drv-rendition x86_64 4.2.4-9.fc17 

fedora 25 k
 xorg-x11-drv-s3virge   x86_64 1.10.4-10.fc17   

fedora 39 k
 xorg-x11-drv-savagex86_64 2.3.3-3.fc17 

fedora 68 k
 xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion x86_64 1.7.5-4.fc17 

fedora 54 k
 xorg-x11-drv-sis 

Re: Todays yum dependency update issues....

2011-11-30 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 10:37 -0600, Kevin Martin wrote:

 What's with the xserver-abi dependency problem (ie:  
 xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.3.0-11.fc17.x86_64 requires: xserver-abi(ansic-2009) 
 = 0
 -- Processing Dependency: xserver-abi(ansic-2009) = 0 for package: 
 xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.3.0-11.fc17.x86_64
 Searching pkgSack for dep: xserver-abi(ansic-2009)

I suspect I may have gotten some Obsoletes slightly wrong in the X
server.  rpm -qa xorg-x11-drv-\* please?

- ajax


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[Test-Announce] AutoQA Upgrade to 0.7

2011-11-30 Thread Tim Flink
As a heads up, we're updating AutoQA to 0.7 today. I'm not expecting
any issues during the update process but no new jobs will be run while
we're updating the production systems. The update process shouldn't
take much more than an hour, maybe two if we hit problems.

If all goes well, you might notice a delay in results being posted to
bodhi. If all doesn't go well, you'll see another email from me.

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Re: Is there a need for more Xen test cases for Fedora?

2011-11-30 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 04:54:05PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 17:47 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
  On 29 November 2011 17:40, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
   Hey, folks. I'm working through the f16 QA retrospective, and one of the
   suggestions is:
  
   might need improved / more Xen test cases
  
  
  Does this mean various DomU tests or Dom0 tests?
 
 That's sort of the question, I'm asking, really!

It would be nice to expand the tests, and it kind of boils down to:

1) Does it boot
2) Does it work 

The complexity is that there are three modes of this: HVM (so similar
to the KVM test-case), PV (we got that covered now), and the Dom0 (which
is mostly - does it boot and you kind of implicitly need to do this before
you can do the other two).

So I think it makes sense to add the HVM case in the test-matrix - it
is pretty simple and similar to the KVM one.

The dom0 is a bit more complex, but we already have it outlined in the
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0 in the Documentation
part - so it should be fairly easy to lift it out of there. (adn the stuff
about the bridge is not needed anymore).


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[Test-Announce] Very belated 2011-09 Graphics Test Week recap

2011-11-30 Thread Adam Williamson
I know this is horribly late, but I just worked my way around to it!
Sorry for that.

Here's the recap of the Fedora 16 Graphics Test Week. The overall
numbers of tests done and bugs filed are down significantly, because I
was very busy and did not do a great job of arranging and promoting the
events this cycle. I hope we'll be able to do a better job for the
Fedora 17 graphics test week.

Here's the numbers on tests conducted and bugs filed. I counted each
non-example line in the main results matrix as a 'test conducted'. I
didn't count the runs in the 'bonus' 3D matrix, in order to provide a
more fair comparison with previous releases. This might affect the
bugs-to-tests ratio somewhat.

f11 nouveau: 104 tests, 42 bugs - ratio 0.40
f12 nouveau: 53 tests, 34 bugs - ratio 0.64
f13 nouveau: 78 tests, 26 bugs - ratio 0.33
f14 nouveau: 39 tests, 8 bugs - ratio 0.21
f15 nouveau: 83 tests, 55 bugs - ratio 0.66
f16 nouveau: 16 tests, 8 bugs - ratio 0.50

f11 radeon: 55 tests, 46 bugs - ratio 0.84
f12 radeon: 61 tests, 81 bugs - ratio 1.33
f13 radeon: 48 tests, 33 bugs - ratio 0.69
f14 radeon: 32 tests, 18 bugs - ratio 0.56
f15 radeon: 66 tests, 38 bugs - ratio 0.58
f16 radeon: 12 tests, 8 bugs - ratio 0.67

f11 intel: 23 tests, 21 bugs - ratio 0.91
f12 intel: 29 tests, 31 bugs - ratio 1.07
f13 intel: 38 tests, 38 bugs - ratio 1.00
f14 intel: 33 tests, 28 bugs - ratio 0.84
f15 intel: 37 tests, 25 bugs - ratio 0.68
f16 intel: 10 tests, 7 bugs - ratio 0.70

It's hard to draw any conclusions from such small numbers, but really,
none of them are far out of line with previous events.

Here's the chart for how reported bugs are handled, adding the results
from the F15 events (this chart gets updated on a one-cycle delay,
because it's concerned with how the bugs filed are handled after a
reasonable amount of time for the developers to look at them). A full
explanation of what this tracks and how it's calculated in the F13 recap
at
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-April/090271.html .
Some resolutions showed up this time that didn't before. I counted
'WORKSFORME' in with 'closeddupe' - i.e. as part of the set of bugs that
should just be completed discarded from consideration. I handled
'UPSTREAM' bugs on a case-by-case basis, going in and look at whether
they'd actually been fixed upstream or what, and putting them in the
most appropriate group. Also, if you try to reproduce these numbers,
note that you'll want to remove the bugs 123456 and 234567 from the
lists - they're used in the 'example' entries in the results matrix. The
bug totals are slightly different from the above chart because I
copy/pasted the F15 numbers in the above chart from the last recap, but
the numbers in this chart are newly generated, and so a few bugs that
were filed and added to the Wiki pages *after* the last recap went out
have been added to the numbers in this chart.

f11 nouveau: 42 bugs, 4 open, 8 closeddupe, 24 closedfixed, 6 closedunfixed - 
70.59%
f12 nouveau: 34 bugs, 11 open, 8 closeddupe, 14 closedfixed, 1 closedunfixed - 
53.85%
f13 nouveau: 27 bugs, 17 open, 6 closeddupe, 3 closedfixed, 1 closedunfixed - 
14.29%
f14 nouveau: 8 bugs, 5 open, 3 closeddupe - 0% (small sample)
f15 nouveau: 58 bugs, 27 open, 13 closeddupe, 13 closedfixed, 5 closedunfixed - 
28.89%

f11 radeon: 46 bugs, 14 open, 10 closeddupe, 19 closedfixed, 3 closedunfixed - 
52.78%
f12 radeon: 81 bugs, 19 open, 32 closeddupe, 28 closedfixed, 2 closedunfixed - 
57.14%
f13 radeon: 36 bugs, 28 open, 3 closeddupe, 5 closedfixed, 0 closedunfixed - 
15.15%
f14 radeon: 18 bugs, 13 open, 0 closeddupe, 3 closedfixed, 2 closedunfixed - 
16.67%
f15 radeon: 38 bugs, 17 open, 10 closeddupe, 9 closedfixed, 2 closedunfixed - 
32.14%

f11 intel: 21 bugs, 7 open, 1 closeddupe, 12 closedfixed, 1 closedunfixed - 60%
f12 intel: 31 bugs, 7 open, 12 closeddupe, 12 closedfixed, 0 closedunfixed - 
63.16%
f13 intel: 42 bugs, 26 open, 4 closeddupe, 11 closedfixed, 1 closedunfixed - 
28.95%
f14 intel: 28 bugs, 21 open, 4 closeddupe, 1 closedfixed, 2 closedunfixed - 
4.17%
f15 intel: 27 bugs, 8 open, 7 closeddupe, 12 closedfixed, 0 closedunfixed - 60%

There's definitely good news here - as noted in the last recap, we had a
good crop of reports from the F15 event, so there's no reason we
shouldn't be able to get back up to this level with better organization
and promotion for F17. Also, the number of bugs actually getting *fixed*
- which is the ultimate goal of the event - was significantly higher
than F13 and F14, not quite back to F11/F12 levels, but a lot better. So
the trend of fewer bugs getting fixed seems to have been stopped during
F15 cycle. Intel showed a particularly marked improvement here. (It's
worth noting that some of the bugs filed and fixed were actually on
GNOME rather than the X drivers; I didn't compare the level of non-X
bugs in the results in other releases, so that is an untracked variable.
If anyone wants to look into that, please do!)

Many thanks as 

Re: Release criterion proposal: betanag removal

2011-11-30 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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El Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:01:03 -0800
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com escribió:
 On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 10:03 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
  On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 18:21 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
   A straightforward release criterion proposal: we should have a
   criterion just to specify that the anaconda betanag screen (and
   any others we put in) should be removed for final. Right now this
   is one of those things that's just obvious but that we ought to
   write down somewhere. How about, in the Final criteria, simply:
   
   * No notices or alerts about pre-release status should be present
  
  Yea that might be one of those last step things that needs to be on
  the list before going final or at least the final spins are
  created.  Hell, just to give it a little more time, could do it
  before the RC's are created since they are pretty much final.  
 
 It's changed for Final TC1, IIRC.
actually i leave the beatnag on for final TC's as they are never
intended to be final releases, but RC1 on its turned off.

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] AutoQA Upgrade to 0.7

2011-11-30 Thread Tim Flink
As a heads up, we're updating AutoQA to 0.7 today. I'm not expecting
any issues during the update process but no new jobs will be run while
we're updating the production systems. The update process shouldn't
take much more than an hour, maybe two if we hit problems.

If all goes well, you might notice a delay in results being posted to
bodhi. If all doesn't go well, you'll see another email from me.

Tim


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