Re: A question about "Software rendering for gnome-shell"

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 19:40 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:43:22AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:54 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > 
> > > > For comparison:
> > > > 
> > > > 3,2GHz Pentium 4 (HT Disabled) / Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370 / 1680x1050
> > > > 
> > > > Fine.  System Monitor CPU at 19%.
> > > 
> > > That's still way higher than I'd like, but it's at least an r300g bug
> > > not an llvmpipe bug.
> > 
> > Remember that CPU usage is inherently going to be higher than usual when
> > running a debug kernel.
> 
> As I wrote before I tried that also with 3.3.0-0.rc4.git1.4.fc17.x86_64
> (the latest for FC17 at that time) with no real difference.  If this one
> is "debug" then how recognize one which is not?  Remember that it has to
> support llvmpipe.

Almost all FC17 kernels are debug kernels. A quick way to tell if you're
using one is:

grep -i CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG /boot/config-`uname -r`

'not set' = release kernel. 'Y' = debug kernel.

The kernel team is building one kernel per upstream kernel release (I
think that's it) as 'release' not 'debug', but you can quite easily
rebuild a kernel as 'release' instead of 'debug' yourself - just check
out the kernel package from git, do 'make release', then build it
however you like - e.g. 'fedpkg srpm' then 'fedpkg scratch-build'. 
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Re: VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 16:00 -0500, Claude Jones wrote:
> I'm trying to test Fedora 17 RC4 in a Virtual Box environment. I had 
> problems doing this with F16 as well. It is up and running, but 
> tortuously slow. I noticed that it complained when I was installing the 
> guest additions about the 'experimental x' version. Every aspect of what 
> I do is slow; bootup takes many minutes, logging in takes over a couple 
> of minutes, opening windows or programs, everything. I'm running the 
> latest version of VirtualBox from Oracle on a Win7 machine with an i5 
> CPU and 4 GB of ram. I've allocated 2 GB to the Fedora VM. Does anyone 
> else have this problem?

As ajax says, check if you're getting software rendering of GNOME Shell,
which is likely to be slow: if so you can force fallback mode from a VT,
much faster than trying to get through the control center, with this
command:

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session session-name 'gnome-fallback'

run it as user - not root - then log out and back in again.

Aside from that, though, there is a known bug with the kernel in Alpha
which causes slowness on some systems, it's possible it affects
VirtualBox 'machines' too. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=795050 . The latest kernel
build fixes that issue:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-2304/kernel-3.3.0-0.rc4.git1.4.fc17

so grab that and see if it helps.
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Re: RC4 and NFS

2012-02-23 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
 wrote:
>
> Here is the relevant /etc/exports entry in my server:
> /  192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0(rw,async)
>
> Here is the screen capture from RC4 64 bit Xfce session:
> [root@omen3 /]# mount 192.168.1.13:/ /o
> mount.nfs: No such device
> [root@omen3 /]#
>
> FWIW the /etc/exports has not been changed since November,
> and the "mount 192.168.1.13:/ /o" where .o exists has worked
> on client Fedoras for years until now.

"nfs" must not be loaded; run "modprobe nfs".
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Re: A question about "Software rendering for gnome-shell"

2012-02-23 Thread mwesten

On 02/23/2012 09:54 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:

On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 08:44 -0500, mwesten wrote:


Fedora-17-Alpha-i686-Live-Desktop.iso (RC2) on USB

2.13GHz AthlonXP 2600+ / RV200 (Radeon 7500) / 1280x1024

Fallback mode is fine, but once the shell starts, it's a battle just to
get System Monitor open and to the Resources tab.  Once there, the CPU
sits at 100% until I get off that tab.  Very high latency, screen
flickering, artifacts, incomplete rendering...


"Incomplete" is worrisome, I've not seen that.


OK, let me (try to) clarify all that with an example.

Say I have a terminal window open.  I click and drag it somewhere.
A few seconds later, it "jumps" to the new location.
Then it quickly jumps back to where it started.
Sometimes it just leaves a piece behind, and other times the whole 
window reappears at the new location, so there are two. (!)
Switching modes or bouncing out to a VC and back will make it redraw 
correctly.


This is only on the *really* slow one now (RV200).  The others don't do 
any of whatever that is...


There's a bit of a quantum effect here where the act of drawing the CPU
monitor necessarily raises CPU load.  If you ssh into the machine and
run top from there, gnome-shell and Xorg shouldn't be taking any undue
load at idle.  If they are, that means there's rendering happening at
idle, which is a legitimate bug that would affect even accelerated
drivers by keeping the GPU from going to sleep to save power.


I'm just using the monitor as an easy way of loading and comparing the 
systems.  I did check and the idle load is very low, so no issue there.


In the non-steady-state, though, the current implementation is known to
be incredibly memcpy-heavy.  Fixes coming soon, beta should be much
better I hope.  If you want to collect some data about where CPU time is
being spent, 'perf record' against the X server or gnome-shell (with
debuginfo installed) and then 'perf report' should be enlightening.  I
suspect you'll find the vast majority of the time spent in memcpy in one
form or another (pixman or fb blit, copying data into and out of the
kernel across the unix socket, etc).


I'll see what I can do.

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Re: A question about "Software rendering for gnome-shell"

2012-02-23 Thread mwesten

On 02/23/2012 02:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:54 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:


For comparison:

3,2GHz Pentium 4 (HT Disabled) / Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370 / 1680x1050

Fine.  System Monitor CPU at 19%.


That's still way higher than I'd like, but it's at least an r300g bug
not an llvmpipe bug.


Remember that CPU usage is inherently going to be higher than usual when
running a debug kernel. I usually find any kind of mouse movement in X
on a debug kernel runs my CPU to 10-20%, and that's an overclocked core
i7-2600k (!). On a release kernel, no such effect.


Understood.  I wasn't complaining about it.  It's there as something of 
baseline for the the others.  Same code, same test, comparable hardware 
(to an extent), but no soft3D.


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Re: A question about "Software rendering for gnome-shell"

2012-02-23 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:43:22AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:54 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
> 
> > > For comparison:
> > > 
> > > 3,2GHz Pentium 4 (HT Disabled) / Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370 / 1680x1050
> > > 
> > > Fine.  System Monitor CPU at 19%.
> > 
> > That's still way higher than I'd like, but it's at least an r300g bug
> > not an llvmpipe bug.
> 
> Remember that CPU usage is inherently going to be higher than usual when
> running a debug kernel.

As I wrote before I tried that also with 3.3.0-0.rc4.git1.4.fc17.x86_64
(the latest for FC17 at that time) with no real difference.  If this one
is "debug" then how recognize one which is not?  Remember that it has to
support llvmpipe.

> I usually find any kind of mouse movement in X
> on a debug kernel runs my CPU to 10-20%,

In any case dropping CPU usage by 10-20% would not be really significant
in the context.

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Re: VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Claude Jones

On 2/23/2012 5:21 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:

Claude Jones  tehogeeservices.com>  writes:


Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure I understand it. Are you saying that
I should open a terminal and issue that 'export' command, then run the
installation of guest additions again?

Yes. If you're building Guest Additions in F17 or Rawhide and don't issue that
command first, you'll probably get an OpenGL-associated error - see

http://freeoracletrainings.com/index.php/blogs/item/15-install-guest-additions-building-the-opengl-support-module-failed

If you issue the command beforehand, it should prevent it. I don't know where
the fault for this is (Fedora or Oracle).




OK  -  I'll give that a shot tomorrow - machine is at work and I'm going 
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VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Claude Jones  tehogeeservices.com> writes:

> Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure I understand it. Are you saying that 
> I should open a terminal and issue that 'export' command, then run the 
> installation of guest additions again?

Yes. If you're building Guest Additions in F17 or Rawhide and don't issue that
command first, you'll probably get an OpenGL-associated error - see

http://freeoracletrainings.com/index.php/blogs/item/15-install-guest-additions-building-the-opengl-support-module-failed

If you issue the command beforehand, it should prevent it. I don't know where
the fault for this is (Fedora or Oracle).




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Re: VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 16:00 -0500, Claude Jones wrote:
> I'm trying to test Fedora 17 RC4 in a Virtual Box environment. I had 
> problems doing this with F16 as well. It is up and running, but 
> tortuously slow. I noticed that it complained when I was installing the 
> guest additions about the 'experimental x' version.

VirtualBox insists that they can't possibly have stable upstreamable X
drivers, because they don't want to have internal ABI compatibility
between their virtual GPU and their drivers, because waa
that's so hard.

Therefore you're probably falling onto the (still very unoptimized)
llvmpipe path for software gnome-shell.

Feel free to ask VirtualBox when they're going to learn how ABI
compatibility works.  Until then I can't possibly recommend using
VirtualBox to run experimental guests OSes.  (Even then I still wouldn't
recommend running VirtualBox, but that's just me preferring to run code
that doesn't make me vomit to read.)

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Re: VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Claude Jones

On 2/23/2012 4:12 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:

Claude Jones  tehogeeservices.com>  writes:


I'm trying to test Fedora 17 RC4 in a Virtual Box environment. I had
problems doing this with F16 as well. It is up and running, but
tortuously slow. I noticed that it complained when I was installing the
guest additions about the 'experimental x' version. Every aspect of what
I do is slow; bootup takes many minutes, logging in takes over a couple
of minutes, opening windows or programs, everything. I'm running the
latest version of VirtualBox from Oracle on a Win7 machine with an i5
CPU and 4 GB of ram. I've allocated 2 GB to the Fedora VM. Does anyone
else have this problem?

Yes, for me with VirtualBox 4.1.8, the F15 and F16 guests are reasonably fast,
but the F17 and Rawhide guests are very slow. I get gnome shell using hardware
passthrough on the F15 and F16 guests, but am unsure whether that's the case on
the F17 and Rawhide guests, or if it's using software rendering. Presumably
hardware passthrough would be faster.

I also found that building the Guest Additions automatically using dkms as
described in

http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp11277648

works in F15 and F16 but not in F17 or Rawhide, so I have to do it manually
there. If you get an error building the OpenGL extensions, you can work around
that by issuing the command

export MAKE='/usr/bin/gmake -i'

before installing the Guest Additions.
Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure I understand it. Are you saying that 
I should open a terminal and issue that 'export' command, then run the 
installation of guest additions again?


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Re: Experiences with F17-Alpha-RC4

2012-02-23 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 02/23/2012 04:03 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 02/23/2012 08:13 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> On 02/23/2012 05:31 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>>> On 02/23/2012 08:32 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I made a fresh F17 desktop (gnome3) installation on my box
 to a real partition with F17/Alpha/RC4: No problems during 
 install, the system runs immediately. Applying all available 
 updates.
 
 But there are some flaws:
 
 
 3. One ugly problem after quitting a gnome3 session: logging 
 in again (via gdm login window) shows in most cases the well 
 know "Oh nO! something has gone wrong, logout!" dialog. 
 Searching a little bit in /var/log/messages, I saw that
 there are some (unspecified) problems with /run/user/
 and/or dot files in /tmp. I could get rid from these login
 problems by removing some files as
 
 /tmp/.ICE-unix /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.X0-lock /run/user/
 
 and then login again
> 
>>> I could get rid from the problems in 3. by setting 
>>> "SELINUX=permissive" in /etc/selinux/config
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Are you seeing avc messages?
> 
> I'm sorry, nothing.
> 
> 
>> ausearch -m avc -ts recent
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Turn off dontaudit rules with

# semodule -DB
And try to login again.
Collect AVC's and send them to me.
# semodule -B
To turn back on dontaudit rules.
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VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Claude Jones  tehogeeservices.com> writes:

> I'm trying to test Fedora 17 RC4 in a Virtual Box environment. I had 
> problems doing this with F16 as well. It is up and running, but 
> tortuously slow. I noticed that it complained when I was installing the 
> guest additions about the 'experimental x' version. Every aspect of what 
> I do is slow; bootup takes many minutes, logging in takes over a couple 
> of minutes, opening windows or programs, everything. I'm running the 
> latest version of VirtualBox from Oracle on a Win7 machine with an i5 
> CPU and 4 GB of ram. I've allocated 2 GB to the Fedora VM. Does anyone 
> else have this problem?

Yes, for me with VirtualBox 4.1.8, the F15 and F16 guests are reasonably fast,
but the F17 and Rawhide guests are very slow. I get gnome shell using hardware
passthrough on the F15 and F16 guests, but am unsure whether that's the case on
the F17 and Rawhide guests, or if it's using software rendering. Presumably
hardware passthrough would be faster.

I also found that building the Guest Additions automatically using dkms as
described in

http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp11277648

works in F15 and F16 but not in F17 or Rawhide, so I have to do it manually
there. If you get an error building the OpenGL extensions, you can work around
that by issuing the command

export MAKE='/usr/bin/gmake -i'

before installing the Guest Additions.




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Re: Experiences with F17-Alpha-RC4

2012-02-23 Thread Joachim Backes
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On 02/23/2012 08:13 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> On 02/23/2012 05:31 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 02/23/2012 08:32 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I made a fresh F17 desktop (gnome3) installation on my box to
>>> a real partition with F17/Alpha/RC4: No problems during
>>> install, the system runs immediately. Applying all available
>>> updates.
>>> 
>>> But there are some flaws:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 3. One ugly problem after quitting a gnome3 session: logging
>>> in again (via gdm login window) shows in most cases the well
>>> know "Oh nO! something has gone wrong, logout!" dialog.
>>> Searching a little bit in /var/log/messages, I saw that there
>>> are some (unspecified) problems with /run/user/ and/or
>>> dot files in /tmp. I could get rid from these login problems by
>>> removing some files as
>>> 
>>> /tmp/.ICE-unix /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.X0-lock /run/user/
>>> 
>>> and then login again
> 
>> I could get rid from the problems in 3. by setting 
>> "SELINUX=permissive" in /etc/selinux/config
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Are you seeing avc messages?

I'm sorry, nothing.

> 
> ausearch -m avc -ts recent
> 
> 

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VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Claude Jones
I'm trying to test Fedora 17 RC4 in a Virtual Box environment. I had 
problems doing this with F16 as well. It is up and running, but 
tortuously slow. I noticed that it complained when I was installing the 
guest additions about the 'experimental x' version. Every aspect of what 
I do is slow; bootup takes many minutes, logging in takes over a couple 
of minutes, opening windows or programs, everything. I'm running the 
latest version of VirtualBox from Oracle on a Win7 machine with an i5 
CPU and 4 GB of ram. I've allocated 2 GB to the Fedora VM. Does anyone 
else have this problem?

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Re: Grub2 mkconfig

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 14:14 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Adam Williamson  said:
> > On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:40 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > > That's what I used to do, but it didn't work for me with F16 and GRUB2.
> > > I get a warning that I shouldn't install GRUB2 to a partition and then
> > > an error about there not being enough space.
> > 
> > You can use --force to make grub2 install to a partition.
> 
> If I run "grub2-install /dev/sda6", I get:
> 
> /sbin/grub2-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk 
> or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea..
> /sbin/grub2-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for 
> cross-disk install.
> 
> --force makes no difference.
> 
> /dev/sda6 is actually part of a software RAID1; "grub2-install /dev/md3"
> segfaults.  Somebody else has already put this in BZ as 788830.

Yep, sounds like the RAID thing is your issue, not the
install-to-partition thing. I'm not sure if grub2 is actually capable of
being written to the first sector of a RAID device at all. pjones may
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Re: unable to run tests requiring "updates=http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/updates/traceback.img" option

2012-02-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Kamil Paral  redhat.com> writes:

> Thanks, Andre. Please report it as a bug.
> (and try scp manually whether it works)

I was wrong - it DOES send the file to the remote system. The problem is that if
you don't specify the name of the file on the remote system (which people
wouldn't normally bother doing) instead of using the original name (like
abrt-upload-2012-02-23-19:56:43-583.tar.gz), it just uses "tmp", which is easy
to overlook (especially when you're sending it to the directory /tmp on the
remote system). Reported as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796899 .



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Re: Grub2 mkconfig

2012-02-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson  said:
> On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:40 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > That's what I used to do, but it didn't work for me with F16 and GRUB2.
> > I get a warning that I shouldn't install GRUB2 to a partition and then
> > an error about there not being enough space.
> 
> You can use --force to make grub2 install to a partition.

If I run "grub2-install /dev/sda6", I get:

/sbin/grub2-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or 
to a partition.  This is a BAD idea..
/sbin/grub2-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for 
cross-disk install.

--force makes no difference.

/dev/sda6 is actually part of a software RAID1; "grub2-install /dev/md3"
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Re: Grub2 mkconfig

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:40 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Michael Schwendt  said:
> > Is it a single /boot partition shared by multiple dists?
> > If so, that has always been just an ugly work-around to escape from having
> > to repartition. I prefer individual partitions for each dist plus
> > installing each dist's boot loader in the partition's boot sector and
> > chainloading them from GRUB (which still works with GRUB2).
> 
> That's what I used to do, but it didn't work for me with F16 and GRUB2.
> I get a warning that I shouldn't install GRUB2 to a partition and then
> an error about there not being enough space.

You can use --force to make grub2 install to a partition.
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Re: A question about "Software rendering for gnome-shell"

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:54 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:

> > For comparison:
> > 
> > 3,2GHz Pentium 4 (HT Disabled) / Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370 / 1680x1050
> > 
> > Fine.  System Monitor CPU at 19%.
> 
> That's still way higher than I'd like, but it's at least an r300g bug
> not an llvmpipe bug.

Remember that CPU usage is inherently going to be higher than usual when
running a debug kernel. I usually find any kind of mouse movement in X
on a debug kernel runs my CPU to 10-20%, and that's an overclocked core
i7-2600k (!). On a release kernel, no such effect.
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Re: RC4 and NFS

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 01:55 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> Here is the relevant /etc/exports entry in my server:
> /  192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0(rw,async)
> 
> Here is the screen capture from RC4 64 bit Xfce session:
> [root@omen3 /]# mount 192.168.1.13:/ /o
> mount.nfs: No such device
> [root@omen3 /]#
> 
> FWIW the /etc/exports has not been changed since November,
> and the "mount 192.168.1.13:/ /o" where .o exists has worked
> on client Fedoras for years until now.

What does 'lsmod | grep nfs' say?
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Re: Experiences with F17-Alpha-RC4

2012-02-23 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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On 02/23/2012 05:31 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 02/23/2012 08:32 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I made a fresh F17 desktop (gnome3) installation on my box to a
>> real partition with F17/Alpha/RC4: No problems during install,
>> the system runs immediately. Applying all available updates.
>> 
>> But there are some flaws:
>> 
>> 
>> 3. One ugly problem after quitting a gnome3 session: logging in
>> again (via gdm login window) shows in most cases the well know
>> "Oh nO! something has gone wrong, logout!" dialog. Searching a
>> little bit in /var/log/messages, I saw that there are some
>> (unspecified) problems with /run/user/ and/or dot files in
>> /tmp. I could get rid from these login problems by removing some
>> files as
>> 
>> /tmp/.ICE-unix /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.X0-lock /run/user/
>> 
>> and then login again
> 
> I could get rid from the problems in 3. by setting
> "SELINUX=permissive" in /etc/selinux/config
> 
> 
> 
> 
Are you seeing avc messages?

ausearch -m avc -ts recent


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[Test-Announce] Announcing 389 Directory Server version 1.2.10.2 Testing

2012-02-23 Thread Rich Megginson
The 389 Project team is pleased to announce the release of 
389-ds-base-1.2.10.2.  No new features were added after alpha 8, just 
many bug fixes.  There are also 389-adminutil, 389-admin, and 389-dsgw 
packages in Testing.


NEW: EL6 support

Beginning with RHEL 6.2, the 389-ds-base package is included in the base 
OS.  Therefore, the 389-ds-base package can no longer be provided via 
EPEL, due to RHEL/EPEL packaging restrictions.


However, the 389 Project will still make the full 389-ds-base package 
available via http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rmeggins/389-ds-base. 
 See http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Download for more information.


NEW: Issue Tracking System

We have moved our ticket tracking system from the Red Hat Bugzilla 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=389 to our Fedora 
Hosted Trac https://fedorahosted.org/389. All of the old 389 bugs have 
been copied to Trac. All new bugs, feature requests, and tasks should be 
entered in Trac


This link shows all of the issues fixed in the 1.2.10 branch - 
https://fedorahosted.org/389/report/12


NEW: Plugin Authors

WARNING: Plugins should be made transaction aware so that they can be 
called from within a backend pre/post transaction plugin. Otherwise,
attempting to perform an internal operation will cause a deadlock. See 
http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Plugins


Installation

 yum install --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds
 # or for EPEL
 yum install --enablerepo=epel-testing 
[--enablerepo=epel-testing-389-ds-base] 389-ds

 setup-ds-admin.pl

Upgrade

 yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds-base 
idm-console-framework 389-admin 389-ds-console 389-admin-console 
389-dsgw 389-adminutil

 # or for EPEL
 yum upgrade --enablerepo=epel-testing 
[--enablerepo=epel-testing-389-ds-base] 389-ds-base 
idm-console-framework 389-admin 389-ds-console 389-admin-console 
389-dsgw 389-adminutil

 setup-ds-admin.pl -u

How to Give Feedback

The best way to provide feedback is via the Fedora Update system.

* Go to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
* In the Search box in the upper right hand corner, type in the name of 
the package
* In the list, find the version and release you are using (if you're not 
sure, use rpm -qi  on your system) and click on the release
* On the page for the update, scroll down to "Add a comment" and provide 
your input


Or just send us an email to 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Reporting Issues

https://fedorahosted.org/389

More Information
* Release Notes - http://port389.org/wiki/Release_Notes
* Install_Guide - http://port389.org/wiki/Install_Guide
* Download - http://port389.org/wiki/Download


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Re: NumLock won't turn off in rawhide

2012-02-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel

On 02/21/2012 04:13 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:28:02PM -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:

How do I get the numlock the turn off?  (please don't tell me to
press the NumLock key!!  It doesn't work in rawhide right now. :-) )


Already fixed upstream:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=ebca1ce1287679c5cb470804abfcc8de3c2d740c



Hoorayfixed in rawhide 20120223.  Thanks!

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Re: New testcase proposal: Dualboot with Windows

2012-02-23 Thread Josef Skladanka
Hello gang,

as there were no opposing voices, I'll add the test to the test matrix template.
Once again, kudos to adamw for providing the base test.

Joza

- Original Message -
> From: "Josef Skladanka" 
> To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" 
> 
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:06:24 PM
> Subject: New testcase proposal: Dualboot with Windows
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'd like to propose new Testcase, to cover the Final criterion: "The
> installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
> existing clean single-partition Windows installation and either
> install a bootloader which can boot into the Windows installation,
> or leave the Windows bootloader untouched and working". The testcase
> Draft is available here (kudos to AdamW for providing most of it)
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jskladan/Draft_QA_Testcase_dualboot_alongside_windows
> 
> C&C most welocomed
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Joza
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tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh write to 2GB USB with Fedora-17-Nightly-20120221.07-i686-Live-soas

2012-02-23 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

USB-stick is persistent

Transcript of a successful install:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/tools_livecd-iso-to-disk

Tom Gilliard
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Re: Grub2 mkconfig

2012-02-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Schwendt  said:
> Is it a single /boot partition shared by multiple dists?
> If so, that has always been just an ugly work-around to escape from having
> to repartition. I prefer individual partitions for each dist plus
> installing each dist's boot loader in the partition's boot sector and
> chainloading them from GRUB (which still works with GRUB2).

That's what I used to do, but it didn't work for me with F16 and GRUB2.
I get a warning that I shouldn't install GRUB2 to a partition and then
an error about there not being enough space.
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Re: A question about "Software rendering for gnome-shell"

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 08:44 -0500, mwesten wrote:

> Fedora-17-Alpha-i686-Live-Desktop.iso (RC2) on USB
> 
> 2.13GHz AthlonXP 2600+ / RV200 (Radeon 7500) / 1280x1024
> 
> Fallback mode is fine, but once the shell starts, it's a battle just to 
> get System Monitor open and to the Resources tab.  Once there, the CPU 
> sits at 100% until I get off that tab.  Very high latency, screen 
> flickering, artifacts, incomplete rendering...

"Incomplete" is worrisome, I've not seen that.

There's a bit of a quantum effect here where the act of drawing the CPU
monitor necessarily raises CPU load.  If you ssh into the machine and
run top from there, gnome-shell and Xorg shouldn't be taking any undue
load at idle.  If they are, that means there's rendering happening at
idle, which is a legitimate bug that would affect even accelerated
drivers by keeping the GPU from going to sleep to save power.

In the non-steady-state, though, the current implementation is known to
be incredibly memcpy-heavy.  Fixes coming soon, beta should be much
better I hope.  If you want to collect some data about where CPU time is
being spent, 'perf record' against the X server or gnome-shell (with
debuginfo installed) and then 'perf report' should be enlightening.  I
suspect you'll find the vast majority of the time spent in memcpy in one
form or another (pixman or fb blit, copying data into and out of the
kernel across the unix socket, etc).

> For comparison:
> 
> 3,2GHz Pentium 4 (HT Disabled) / Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370 / 1680x1050
> 
> Fine.  System Monitor CPU at 19%.

That's still way higher than I'd like, but it's at least an r300g bug
not an llvmpipe bug.

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Re: Can't start acroread in F17/Alpha

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:21 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Did somebody try to run acroread in F17? I did it and got as result:
> 
> acroread
> 
> /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading
> shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot enable executable stack as
> shared object requires: Permission denied

Fedora's OpenSSL build does:

# Add -Wa,--noexecstack here so that libcrypto's assembler modules will
be
# marked as not requiring an executable stack.
RPM_OPT_FLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS -Wa,--noexecstack"

Which implies that the executable stack marking is not in fact needed,
and normally only exists because the assembler has to assume the stack
_might_ be executable.

You should be able to clear the executable stack flag for individual
binaries (the bundled libcrypto, in this case) by running 'execstack -c'
on them.  After which you should be able to turn the selinux boolean
back on.

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Re: A question about "Software rendering for gnome-shell"

2012-02-23 Thread mwesten

On 02/22/2012 02:42 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:


I am afraid that I am not qualified to sensibly discuss underlying
mechanisms.  I can only report what I see.  In this thread
mwes...@verizon.net wrote "the processor gets pegged at 100%
continuously and it's not usable".  I am not sure what was the hardware.
I wonder if turning off acceleration changes anything to him.

Michal


Fedora-17-Alpha-i686-Live-Desktop.iso (RC2) on USB

2.13GHz AthlonXP 2600+ / RV200 (Radeon 7500) / 1280x1024

Fallback mode is fine, but once the shell starts, it's a battle just to 
get System Monitor open and to the Resources tab.  Once there, the CPU 
sits at 100% until I get off that tab.  Very high latency, screen 
flickering, artifacts, incomplete rendering...


Turned it down to 1024x768, no help.

I also tried a couple of other oldies...

2.2GHz Pentium 4 / i845G / 1024x768

The shell does come up and work, but requires a lot of patience to do 
anything.  Scrolling and dragging are jerky and painful.  System Monitor 
CPU at 97%+ continuously.


1.6GHz Pentium M / RV250 (FireGL 9000) / 1024x768

Slightly better than i845G.

"NoAccel" had no noticeable effect.

For comparison:

3,2GHz Pentium 4 (HT Disabled) / Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370 / 1680x1050

Fine.  System Monitor CPU at 19%.

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Re: Experiences with F17-Alpha-RC4

2012-02-23 Thread Joachim Backes
On 02/23/2012 12:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> On 02/23/2012 08:32 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I made a fresh F17 desktop (gnome3) installation on my box to a real
>> partition with F17/Alpha/RC4: No problems during install, the system
>> runs immediately. Applying all available updates.
>>
>> But there are some flaws:
>>
>> 1. No sound with "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7
>> Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)." The output
>> device is not shown by the "system settings" menu.
> Fix for this here [1]
> 
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794690

Hi Brendan,

thanks for the hint. Editing /etc/pulse/default.pa as described in BZ
794690 solved my sound problems.

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Re: Experiences with F17-Alpha-RC4

2012-02-23 Thread Brendan Jones

On 02/23/2012 08:32 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:

Hi,

I made a fresh F17 desktop (gnome3) installation on my box to a real
partition with F17/Alpha/RC4: No problems during install, the system
runs immediately. Applying all available updates.

But there are some flaws:

1. No sound with "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7
Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)." The output
device is not shown by the "system settings" menu.

Fix for this here [1]

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794690
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F-17 Branched report: 20120223 changes

2012-02-23 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Feb 23 08:15:09 UTC 2012

Broken deps for x86_64
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[Pound]
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[aeolus-conductor]
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[asterisk]
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[aunit]
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libboost_

Re: Experiences with F17-Alpha-RC4

2012-02-23 Thread Joachim Backes
On 02/23/2012 08:32 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I made a fresh F17 desktop (gnome3) installation on my box to a real
> partition with F17/Alpha/RC4: No problems during install, the system
> runs immediately. Applying all available updates.
> 
> But there are some flaws:
> 
> 
> 3. One ugly problem after quitting a gnome3 session: logging in again
>(via gdm login window) shows in most cases the well know "Oh nO!
>something has gone wrong, logout!" dialog. Searching a little bit in
>/var/log/messages, I saw that there are some (unspecified) problems
>with /run/user/ and/or dot files in /tmp. I could get rid from
>these login problems by removing some files as
> 
> /tmp/.ICE-unix /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.X0-lock /run/user/
> 
> and then login again

I could get rid from the problems in 3. by setting "SELINUX=permissive"
in /etc/selinux/config

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Re: Grub2 mkconfig

2012-02-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:38:16 -0500, TD (Timothy) wrote:

> It's not the recovery mode entry that bothers me, but the fact that for
> all of the kernels in my boot parttion gets assigned to F17 or what
> every the last distro installed. Maybe the mkconfig program isn't samrt
> enought or maybe I should go ahead and write my own. 

Is it a single /boot partition shared by multiple dists?
If so, that has always been just an ugly work-around to escape from having
to repartition. I prefer individual partitions for each dist plus
installing each dist's boot loader in the partition's boot sector and
chainloading them from GRUB (which still works with GRUB2).

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Re: RC4 and NFS

2012-02-23 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

Here is the relevant /etc/exports entry in my server:
/  192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0(rw,async)

Here is the screen capture from RC4 64 bit Xfce session:
[root@omen3 /]# mount 192.168.1.13:/ /o
mount.nfs: No such device
[root@omen3 /]#

FWIW the /etc/exports has not been changed since November,
and the "mount 192.168.1.13:/ /o" where .o exists has worked
on client Fedoras for years until now.




On 02/22/2012 09:54 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:

I was able to fool RC4 into installing on my office machine by
telling it to use advances sotrage and selecting a drive
that had no version of Linux on it.

Unfortunately, attempting to mount a nfs share fails
with a message about no such device.

Broken NFS is a real impediment to testing Linux.



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Re: unable to run tests requiring "updates=http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/updates/traceback.img" option

2012-02-23 Thread Kamil Paral
> Kamil Paral  redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > > QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_remote_system
> > > QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_bugzilla (Alpha)
> > > QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_disk (Alpha)
> > > QA:Testcase_Anaconda_traceback_debug_mode
> > 
> > I have tried Alpha RC4 (anaconda 17.11), it's there. I'll update
> > the test
> cases now.
> 
> I hadn't checked past the first anaconda screen (where the traceback
> appeared
> previously). Going through the first few screens as indicated in the
> new test
> cases, I see it now. It might have been in RC3 as well. Anyway, I
> verified that
> the last 3 tests work as advertised.

> QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_remote_system did not work,
> using an URL
> of the form "scp://andre:mypassword@192.168.1.2:/tmp" (which worked
> previously).
> The installer claims it wrote the file successfully, and tells you
> the exact
> name of the file, but it never actually appears on the remote system.

Thanks, Andre. Please report it as a bug.
(and try scp manually whether it works)
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Re: Can't start acroread in F17/Alpha

2012-02-23 Thread Joachim Backes
On 02/23/2012 09:45 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Joachim Backes
>  wrote:
>> Did somebody try to run acroread in F17? I did it and got as result:
>>
>> acroread
>>
>> /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading
>> shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot enable executable stack as
>> shared object requires: Permission denied
>>
> 
> Does
> 
> setsebool allow_execstack=on
> 
> fix it?

Thanks, it fixed it :-)

> 
> You can make it permanent using setsebool -P allow_execstack=on
> 
> (It gets flipped pre release and back on GA).


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Re: Can't start acroread in F17/Alpha

2012-02-23 Thread drago01
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Joachim Backes
 wrote:
> Did somebody try to run acroread in F17? I did it and got as result:
>
> acroread
>
> /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading
> shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot enable executable stack as
> shared object requires: Permission denied
>

Does

setsebool allow_execstack=on

fix it?

You can make it permanent using setsebool -P allow_execstack=on

(It gets flipped pre release and back on GA).
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Can't start acroread in F17/Alpha

2012-02-23 Thread Joachim Backes
Did somebody try to run acroread in F17? I did it and got as result:

acroread

/opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading
shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot enable executable stack as
shared object requires: Permission denied

Anybody can confirm this?

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Re: Grub2 mkconfig

2012-02-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Timothy Davis  wrote:
>
> It's not the recovery mode entry that bothers me, but the fact that for
> all of the kernels in my boot parttion gets assigned to F17 or what
> every the last distro installed. Maybe the mkconfig program isn't samrt
> enought or maybe I should go ahead and write my own.

I don't have an install to look at at the moment but I'm not surprised
that (assuming that F17's the "last distro installed") all your
entries are called "F17..." given that you have the same 4GB "/boot"
for all your distros. I don't have copies of "10_linux",
"grub2-mkconfig", and "grub2-mkconfig_lib" (or maybe it's not renamed
in Fedora and is "grub-mkconfig_lib") but I suspect that it's not only
the "menuentry" titles that are the same in "grub.cfg" but that the
"root=" values on the "linux" lines are all the same too and not
pointing to the slackware "/" for the slackware kernels and the ubuntu
"/" for the ubuntu kernels. Maybe you can combine the logic of
"10_linux" and "30_os=prober" for grub2-mkconfig to do what you'd like
it to do.
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