Re: [Fedora QA] #301: Translations Testing Day Proposal

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#301: Translations Testing Day Proposal
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  Reporter:  pycrash   |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 18
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
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Comment (by aalam):

 Replying to [comment:2 adamwill]:
 > For several previous releases, the l10n/i18n teams have proposed and run
 a series of l10n/i18n test days which included translations checks along
 with other things. aalam, if you're planning to do that again, perhaps it
 would be the best way to go. Should we make this into the ticket for F18
 l10n/i18n test days?

 yes, for Fedora i18n, we are running 3 test day (l10n, i18n and
 installation). I will update ticket after i18n team meeting.

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Re: [Fedora QA] #301: Translations Testing Day Proposal

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#301: Translations Testing Day Proposal
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  Reporter:  pycrash   |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 18
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
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Comment (by adamwill):

 For several previous releases, the l10n/i18n teams have proposed and run a
 series of l10n/i18n test days which included translations checks along
 with other things. aalam, if you're planning to do that again, perhaps it
 would be the best way to go. Should we make this into the ticket for F18
 l10n/i18n test days?

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Re: [Fedora QA] #302: freeIPA test day request for 9.13.12

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#302: freeIPA test day request for 9.13.12
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 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
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Comment (by adamwill):

 Sounds great, I've added it to the schedule at
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_18_test_days (the date can always
 be changed if you find for any reason you'd prefer a different one). It'd
 be ideal if you could have the page up and prepared the Friday before -
 2012-09-07 - to make it easy to send out announcements and so on. Thanks!
 I 'suggested' the page name of Test_Day:2012-09-13_FreeIPA but you can of
 course change it if desired.

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[Fedora QA] #302: freeIPA test day request for 9.13.12

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#302: freeIPA test day request for 9.13.12
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 Type:  defect|  Status:  new
 Priority:  major |   Milestone:
Component:  Test Day  | Version:
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 IPA team wants to allocate a test day slot on 9.13.12.

 We will be providing details about the features to test and all the
 instructions. This is not the first time we do it so we know the drill.
 The only help we need is announcement of the IPA test day thought the
 Fedora mailing lists.
 We might need some other help but we not sure what it would be for now.

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Re: need firefox 14 to go with xulrunner 14 from rawhide (x86_64)...

[drago01]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:44 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
>> On 07/18/2012 02:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:14 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
>> >> firefox 13 installed won't run with xulrunner 14 from rawhide.When 
>> >> trying to run FF13 with xulrunner 14 I get:
>> >>
>> >> Error: Platform version '14.0.1' is not compatible with
>> >> minVersion >= 13.0.1
>> >> maxVersion <= 13.0.1
>> >> ) = 98
>> >>
>> >> Can somebody please get a version of FF14 into rawhide repository so we 
>> >> can update to it?
>> >
>> > xulrunner-14.0.1-3.fc18 stransky2012-07-17  
>> > 13:49:26
>> > firefox-14.0.1-1.fc18   stransky2012-07-17  
>> > 14:42:23
>> >
>> > Firefox was built less than an hour after xulrunner.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Hmm, strange.  This is what I get:
>>
>> # yum --releasever=rawhide list firefox xulrunner
>> Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, changelog, langpacks, presto, 
>> protectbase, upgrade-helper
>> 0 packages excluded due to repository protections
>> Installed Packages
>> firefox.x86_64 13.0.1-2.fc18 
>>@fedora
>> xulrunner.x86_64   14.0.1-2.fc18 
>>@rawhide
>> Available Packages
>> xulrunner.i686 14.0.1-2.fc18 
>>rawhide
>>
>> And here are my repos.  Am I missing a repo?
>
> No. It's probably just the case that the Rawhide tree compose happened
> to get done between the two builds. It's not unusual for things like
> this to happen in Rawhide, and usually not worth posting about unless it
> goes on for a few days. Especially, don't post about it unless you've
> already checked Koji to see what's happening there. If you're really
> impatient, it's easy enough to pull the Firefox build from koji.

That's clearly a packing bug, firefox should require the specific
xulrunner version it needs and not just fail at runtime. That won't
fix the mirror / timing issues but won't allow you to install a broken
combination.
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Re: need firefox 14 to go with xulrunner 14 from rawhide (x86_64)...

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:44 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> On 07/18/2012 02:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:14 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> >> firefox 13 installed won't run with xulrunner 14 from rawhide.When 
> >> trying to run FF13 with xulrunner 14 I get:
> >>
> >> Error: Platform version '14.0.1' is not compatible with
> >> minVersion >= 13.0.1
> >> maxVersion <= 13.0.1
> >> ) = 98
> >>
> >> Can somebody please get a version of FF14 into rawhide repository so we 
> >> can update to it?
> > 
> > xulrunner-14.0.1-3.fc18 stransky2012-07-17  13:49:26
> > firefox-14.0.1-1.fc18   stransky2012-07-17  14:42:23
> > 
> > Firefox was built less than an hour after xulrunner.
> > 
> 
> 
> Hmm, strange.  This is what I get:
> 
> # yum --releasever=rawhide list firefox xulrunner
> Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, changelog, langpacks, presto, 
> protectbase, upgrade-helper
> 0 packages excluded due to repository protections
> Installed Packages
> firefox.x86_64 13.0.1-2.fc18  
>   @fedora
> xulrunner.x86_64   14.0.1-2.fc18  
>   @rawhide
> Available Packages
> xulrunner.i686 14.0.1-2.fc18  
>   rawhide
> 
> And here are my repos.  Am I missing a repo?

No. It's probably just the case that the Rawhide tree compose happened
to get done between the two builds. It's not unusual for things like
this to happen in Rawhide, and usually not worth posting about unless it
goes on for a few days. Especially, don't post about it unless you've
already checked Koji to see what's happening there. If you're really
impatient, it's easy enough to pull the Firefox build from koji.
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Re: need firefox 14 to go with xulrunner 14 from rawhide (x86_64)...

[Kevin Martin]

On 07/18/2012 02:44 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
> On 07/18/2012 02:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:14 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
>>> firefox 13 installed won't run with xulrunner 14 from rawhide.When 
>>> trying to run FF13 with xulrunner 14 I get:
>>>
>>> Error: Platform version '14.0.1' is not compatible with
>>> minVersion >= 13.0.1
>>> maxVersion <= 13.0.1
>>> ) = 98
>>>
>>> Can somebody please get a version of FF14 into rawhide repository so we can 
>>> update to it?
>>
>> xulrunner-14.0.1-3.fc18  stransky2012-07-17  13:49:26
>> firefox-14.0.1-1.fc18stransky2012-07-17  14:42:23
>>
>> Firefox was built less than an hour after xulrunner.
>>
> 
> 
> Hmm, strange.  This is what I get:
> 
> # yum --releasever=rawhide list firefox xulrunner
> Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, changelog, langpacks, presto, 
> protectbase, upgrade-helper
> 0 packages excluded due to repository protections
> Installed Packages
> firefox.x86_64 13.0.1-2.fc18  
>   @fedora
> xulrunner.x86_64   14.0.1-2.fc18  
>   @rawhide
> Available Packages
> xulrunner.i686 14.0.1-2.fc18  
>   rawhide
> 
> And here are my repos.  Am I missing a repo?
> 
> # yum --releasever=rawhide repolist
> Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, changelog, langpacks, presto, 
> protectbase, upgrade-helper
> 0 packages excluded due to repository protections
> repo id   repo name   
> status
> adobe-linux-i386  Adobe Systems Incorporated  
> 17
> adobe-linux-x86_64Adobe Systems Incorporated  
>  2
> fedoraFedora rawhide - x86_64 
> 27,845
> fedora-debuginfo  Fedora rawhide - x86_64 - Debug 
>  6,079
> fedora-source Fedora rawhide - Source 
>  0
> google-chrome google-chrome   
>  3
> google-earth  google-earth
>  1
> google-talkplugin google-talkplugin   
>  1
> *rawhide  Fedora - Rawhide - 
> Developmental packages for the next Fedora release   27,940
> *rawhide-debuginfoFedora - Rawhide - Debug
>  6,086
> rpmfusion-free-rawhideRPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
> Free   445
> rpmfusion-free-rawhide-debuginfo  RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
> Free - Debug   163
> rpmfusion-free-rawhide-source RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
> Free - Source0
> rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
> Nonfree204
> rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-debuginfo   RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
> Nonfree - Debug 66
> rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-source  RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
> Nonfree - Source 0
> *updates  Fedora rawhide - x86_64 - 
> Updates   27,940
> updates-debuginfo Fedora rawhide - x86_64 - 
> Updates - Debug6,086
> *updates-source   Fedora rawhide - Updates Source 
>  0
> *updates-testing-source   Fedora rawhide - Test Updates 
> Source 0
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kevin Martin
> 


yum clean all to the rescuesigh.

Thanks.

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Re: need firefox 14 to go with xulrunner 14 from rawhide (x86_64)...

[Kevin Martin]

On 07/18/2012 02:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:14 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
>> firefox 13 installed won't run with xulrunner 14 from rawhide.When 
>> trying to run FF13 with xulrunner 14 I get:
>>
>> Error: Platform version '14.0.1' is not compatible with
>> minVersion >= 13.0.1
>> maxVersion <= 13.0.1
>> ) = 98
>>
>> Can somebody please get a version of FF14 into rawhide repository so we can 
>> update to it?
> 
> xulrunner-14.0.1-3.fc18   stransky2012-07-17  13:49:26
> firefox-14.0.1-1.fc18 stransky2012-07-17  14:42:23
> 
> Firefox was built less than an hour after xulrunner.
> 


Hmm, strange.  This is what I get:

# yum --releasever=rawhide list firefox xulrunner
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, changelog, langpacks, presto, 
protectbase, upgrade-helper
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
Installed Packages
firefox.x86_64 13.0.1-2.fc18
@fedora
xulrunner.x86_64   14.0.1-2.fc18
@rawhide
Available Packages
xulrunner.i686 14.0.1-2.fc18
rawhide

And here are my repos.  Am I missing a repo?

# yum --releasever=rawhide repolist
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, changelog, langpacks, presto, 
protectbase, upgrade-helper
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
repo id   repo name 
  status
adobe-linux-i386  Adobe Systems Incorporated
  17
adobe-linux-x86_64Adobe Systems Incorporated
   2
fedoraFedora rawhide - x86_64   
  27,845
fedora-debuginfo  Fedora rawhide - x86_64 - Debug   
   6,079
fedora-source Fedora rawhide - Source   
   0
google-chrome google-chrome 
   3
google-earth  google-earth  
   1
google-talkplugin google-talkplugin 
   1
*rawhide  Fedora - Rawhide - Developmental 
packages for the next Fedora release   27,940
*rawhide-debuginfoFedora - Rawhide - Debug  
   6,086
rpmfusion-free-rawhideRPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
Free   445
rpmfusion-free-rawhide-debuginfo  RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
Free - Debug   163
rpmfusion-free-rawhide-source RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
Free - Source0
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
Nonfree204
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-debuginfo   RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
Nonfree - Debug 66
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide-source  RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - 
Nonfree - Source 0
*updates  Fedora rawhide - x86_64 - Updates 
  27,940
updates-debuginfo Fedora rawhide - x86_64 - Updates 
- Debug6,086
*updates-source   Fedora rawhide - Updates Source   
   0
*updates-testing-source   Fedora rawhide - Test Updates 
Source 0

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Re: need firefox 14 to go with xulrunner 14 from rawhide (x86_64)...

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 14:14 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> firefox 13 installed won't run with xulrunner 14 from rawhide.When trying 
> to run FF13 with xulrunner 14 I get:
> 
> Error: Platform version '14.0.1' is not compatible with
> minVersion >= 13.0.1
> maxVersion <= 13.0.1
> ) = 98
> 
> Can somebody please get a version of FF14 into rawhide repository so we can 
> update to it?

xulrunner-14.0.1-3.fc18 stransky2012-07-17  13:49:26
firefox-14.0.1-1.fc18   stransky2012-07-17  14:42:23

Firefox was built less than an hour after xulrunner.
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need firefox 14 to go with xulrunner 14 from rawhide (x86_64)...

[Kevin Martin]

firefox 13 installed won't run with xulrunner 14 from rawhide.When trying 
to run FF13 with xulrunner 14 I get:

Error: Platform version '14.0.1' is not compatible with
minVersion >= 13.0.1
maxVersion <= 13.0.1
) = 98

Can somebody please get a version of FF14 into rawhide repository so we can 
update to it?

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Re: [Fedora QA] #301: Translations Testing Day Proposal

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#301: Translations Testing Day Proposal
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  Reporter:  pycrash   |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 18
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
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Changes (by aalam):

 * cc: aalam (added)


Comment:

 Replying to [ticket:301 pycrash]:
 > = phenomenon =
 > Translation test Day
 >
 > = background analysis =
 > It is very important to test all the translation before Fedora 18's
 release, so Fedora can became a world wide Distro.
 >
 > = implementation recommendation =
 > I propose the 2012-10-25 as a Translation Test Day. It is close enough
 to the release date so all the Translation will be ready and the
 2012-11-01 is still available for testing last minutes changes.

 Too close means Nothing can be fixed by translators, or build by
 developers for release, but only after release fix possible.

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Re: Anaconda new UI testing: new snapshot available

[David Cantrell]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:18:42AM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:20:01PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 17:42 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > > 
> > > So, now one has to use kickstart, which is not all that simple, and has
> > > to be set up somewhere, to put in some BASIC Unix function.  All to
> > > support the inexperienced user who will probably be more inconvenienced
> > > than endangered by this anyway. 
> > 
> > > It's just more work for the sysadmin.
> > 
> > I'd rather expect any sysadmin worth their salt would be deploying via
> > scripts, not interactively. Which is what kickstart is - it's just the
> > way you do a scripted install.
> 
> Not necessarily.  There are all sorts of reasons one wouldn't, for
> example, small companies with widely varying needs in individual
> servers.

Even still, I hope the small companies are able to reproduce their install
should the system they are using fail.  We write out /root/anaconda-ks.cfg
for this purpose and with some modifications on the part of the admin, you
can have a kickstart file that will reproduce the set up that probably took
you days to arrive at.  But that's just me.  I do this for my systems for my
own disaster recovery purposes.  It's really pretty simple and not weird and
scary complicated like people want to think it is.

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Re: Fedora 18 Rawhide ISO

[Akshay Vyas]

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Frank Murphy  wrote:
> On 18/07/12 13:06, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
>>
>> Dear Fedora testers,
>> Why on EARTH do all your rawhide ISO's failed This is
>> ridiculous! How can I test it?

i never heard about rawhide iso do we really have raw hide iso's
i only used "yum install fedora-release-rawhide"
>>
>>
>
> There is no such thing as a Rawhide iso.
> That's why you cant's test it.
frank :)
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Re: Fedora 18 Rawhide ISO

[Frank Murphy]

On 18/07/12 13:06, Ho Wan Chan wrote:

Dear Fedora testers,
Why on EARTH do all your rawhide ISO's failed This is
ridiculous! How can I test it?




There is no such thing as a Rawhide iso.
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Re: Fedora 18 Rawhide ISO

[Ho Wan Chan]

Dear Fedora testers,

Why on EARTH do all your rawhide ISO's failed This is ridiculous!
How can I test it?
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Re: Anaconda new UI testing: new snapshot available

[Scott Robbins]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:20:01PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:


> On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 17:42 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > 
> > So, now one has to use kickstart, which is not all that simple, and has
> > to be set up somewhere, to put in some BASIC Unix function.  All to
> > support the inexperienced user who will probably be more inconvenienced
> > than endangered by this anyway. 
> 
> > It's just more work for the sysadmin.
> 
> I'd rather expect any sysadmin worth their salt would be deploying via
> scripts, not interactively. Which is what kickstart is - it's just the
> way you do a scripted install.

Not necessarily.  There are all sorts of reasons one wouldn't, for
example, small companies with widely varying needs in individual
servers. 

Regardless, it's all good, and as I said, I'm a hypocrite, only
complaining about catering to the inexperienced when it gets in my way
and reaping the benefits of it.  I do think that RH puts too much Fedora
desktop oriented stuff in, almost without any thought,
but like MS, RH is pretty deeply entrenched in the enterprise, so there 
will be grumbling, but I doubt they'll lose business.



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