Re: New BugZapper Introduction
On Sat Sep 8 2012 11:14:48 PM CDT, Chris Hyndman chynd...@zoho.com wrote: Hi Bug Zappers, I'm hoping that you will consider me as a potential new member for the Fedora Bug Zapper team. I started installing, using and embracing Linux distros about four years ago and it would be great for me to be able to return the favor. (Snip) Hi Chris, The best way to give back is to package software. Other ways include QA work or user support. You don't need to apply to a group to start giving back. Just Do It. Regards, Michael -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: More experiences with Spherical Cow
On 09/08/2012 10:10 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 09/08/2012 03:49 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Lately I have been able to install new versions of Spherical Cow using pxeboot with the liveos squashfs. Installing over a gigabit Ethernet is orders of magnitude faster than burning a DVD-RW That's a big problem right there. Install from DVD-RW is very slow for two reasons. The '-' flavor does not have hardware-addressable sectors, so a seek-for-read must perform a software read at the destination to find the right 2KiB sector. The '+' flavor has hardware-addressable sectors which avoids this extra step. The second reason: both -/+RW are slow because the physical properties of the re-writable medium provide relatively low contrast. Neither the signal detector nor the writer can work quickly: 4X is one practical knee. The record-once (non-rewriteable) media provide much higher contrast, and 16X is available inexpensively. and watching it grinding away forever during the install. I enjoy hyperbole once in a while, but let's make some actual measurements. As yet none of the pre-alpha Fedora 18 *.iso have worked for me, so I'll measure Fedora 17 Release (x86_64) on 3GHz CPU, 8GB RAM, SATA II: Duration Activity 12m26s write DVD+RW (3.8GB; 4X) 5m00s write DVD+R (3.8GB; 16X) -=-=-=- 3m48s Boot DVD+R, go until Starting installation process 2m32s Starting installation process 9m32s install 1207 packages (default Gnome Desktop; 4.1GB) 2m56s create yum package database using links in filesystem -- 18m48s installation 5m00s media preparation == 23m48s .iso-to-installed pxeboot + LiveOS squashfs + GigE cannot be even one order of magnitude faster than this, because creating the yum database takes longer than 2.4 minutes and depends only on the final result, not on any install method. Please measure your install, and tell us how long it takes. When TC7 comes out I will try a DVD+R. Currently yum update inb Broken Cow renders X inoperable. In the meantime I have been playing with the new OpenSUSE 12.2. It does a very nice install indeed. I was also able to compile gnuradio and get gnuradio-companion running, something I haven't been able to do with Fedora 18. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc The High Reliability Software 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) is now available for testing. Please note that Live images are mislabeled (contain 'TC5' in their name), but they are TC6 content. ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!
On Sep 9, 2012 12:12 PM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote: As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) is now available for testing. Please note that Live images are mislabeled (contain 'TC5' in their name), but they are TC6 content. ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org . https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test I found the same problem with tc5. Selected xfce4 install from DVD and the city server was not installed. Kevin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New BugZapper Introduction
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 01:16 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On Sat Sep 8 2012 11:14:48 PM CDT, Chris Hyndman chynd...@zoho.com wrote: Hi Bug Zappers, I'm hoping that you will consider me as a potential new member for the Fedora Bug Zapper team. I started installing, using and embracing Linux distros about four years ago and it would be great for me to be able to return the favor. (Snip) Hi Chris, The best way to give back is to package software. Other ways include QA work or user support. You don't need to apply to a group to start giving back. Just Do It. Regards, Michael Okay, I'll look more into those areas, maybe try to get in on test days. Thanks, Chris -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18 Alpha action needed: karma for blocker-fixing updates and votes on proposed blocker/NTH bugs
On 2012-09-08 5:09, John Reiser wrote: ... as things stand, we're one bug away from an RC compose. Please give an explicit list of the literal package names which would go into the RC compose, at least the ones that are not in fedora + fedora-updates. About 8 hours ago pungi aborted when I tried to compose a DVD from fedora + fedora-updates + fedora-updates-testing (all using Fedora 18), complaining that grub/splash* did not exist. TC/RC composes do not use updates-testing - that would negate the whole point of the release freeze. Pungi succeeded with fedora + fedora-updates + anaconda-18.6.6-1 [4 packages], but the full DVD.iso fails to boot. Dracut aborts with /dev/root does not exist. The netinst.iso gets the same dracut abort. That's the correct package set, more or less. I don't know what problem you're hitting, but tflink, clumens or dgilmore may be able to advise (they've all done DVD/netinst composes with the F18 package set). Packages that we pull into composes to fix blocker/NTH bugs go to this repo until they are pushed stable: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/bleed/ So if you add that repo - use 'fedora' plus that repo, you don't really need to use 'updates' as it is never populated for pre-releases - you should get something pretty close to TC6. Updates that will likely be pulled for TC7/RC1 but which aren't yet stable are: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-13611/anaconda-18.6.6-1.fc18 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.8.3-2.fc18 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-13592/osmo-0.2.12-0.2.svn924.fc18 you may also want to make sure you use the latest lorax and pungi in the build environment: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-13600/lorax-18.18-1.fc18 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-13063/pungi-2.12-1.fc18 Hope that helps, good luck... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: More experiences with Spherical Cow
On 2012-09-09 3:48, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: When TC7 comes out I will try a DVD+R. Currently yum update inb Broken Cow renders X inoperable. In the meantime I have been playing with the new OpenSUSE 12.2. It does a very nice install indeed. I was also able to compile gnuradio and get gnuradio-companion running, something I haven't been able to do with Fedora 18. You're comparing a release which has not yet released Alpha release candidate state (with testing updates!) to a stable release. This is entirely without value. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: More experiences with Spherical Cow
so I'll measure Fedora 17 Release (x86_64) on 3GHz CPU, 8GB RAM, SATA II: Duration Activity 12m26s write DVD+RW (3.8GB; 4X) 5m00s write DVD+R (3.8GB; 16X) -=-=-=- 3m48s Boot DVD+R, go until Starting installation process 2m32s Starting installation process 9m32s install 1207 packages (default Gnome Desktop; 4.1GB) 2m56s create yum package database using links in filesystem -- 18m48s installation 5m00s media preparation == 23m48s .iso-to-installed Doing the same thing on the same hardware, except with the installation source on a USB2.0 flash memory device with vfat filesystem: 38m58s livecd-iso-to-disk -=-=-=- 3m22s Boot DVD+R, go until Starting installation process 0m12s Starting installation process 8m10s install 1207 packages (default Gnome Desktop; 4.1GB) 3m09s create yum package database using links in filesystem -- 14m53s installation 38m58s media preparation == 53m51s .iso-to-installed Note the factor of 12.7 speedup for Starting install process: 12s instead of 2m32s. This shows how much faster seeking is on the flash device instead of on the DVD+R. The installation is almost 4 minutes faster (21%) using the flash device, but media preparation takes about 34 minutes longer (a factor of 7.6) livecd-iso-to-disk spends nearly all its time transferring the Packages directory using rsync. I wonder how much might be saved if vfat supported the fallocate() system call (and rsync used it.) The flash memory device might be considered slow: dd if=/dev/flash bs=32k count=1 of=/dev/null transfers 328MB in 19.3 seconds, which is an average of 17.0 MB/s. -- -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
[Test-Announce] 2012-09-10 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting?
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2012-09-10 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's meeting time again! We're finally getting somewhere with Alpha, so we'll probably be focusing on that. We also have a lot of criteria discussion lately, so I thought I'd throw that in the list. This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting. Please add any topic suggestions to the meeting wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120910 The current proposed agenda is included below. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Fedora 18 general status check / mini blocker review 2. Release criteria revision 3. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
