Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy 

On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> So I'd be interested in general opinions about whether we should go down
> the path of requiring quite a bit of reliability from custom
> partitioning at Beta stage, or whether we should perhaps dial that down
> a bit, and only really require extensive functionality from custom
> partitioning at Final stage, as we did for F17 and earlier. I'd
> especially be interested in what the anaconda team thinks, so could you
> folks chip in?

I have no issue with a narrow path of working behaviors for a beta. It's a 
beta. Some things don't work. *shrug* I even tolerate crashes of the installer 
for beta. What I don't like is data loss. So as long as that remains a show 
stopper, I'm pretty compliant.

> the Glorious Future maybe belongs
> to btrfs. 


Take a chance. It's only data. There are too many bytes in the world anyway. 
Just kidding, I haven't lost anything with btrfs, and have in fact committed my 
2nd and 3rd backups to it. (I trust the veracity of these more than the primary 
method, but the primary backup has restore features that are preferred.)

> So I'm not sure we really have a convincing reason
> any more to care especially about LVM.

a.) I'd go farther than this. I personally think for novice, give Fedora a try, 
users; the users who are argued to be confused by LVM and hence one reason why 
it's going away in F18 by default, the same arguments apply to why the default 
requires 3 partitions. I think the default installation should be a single 
partition: /boot on rootfs, and swapfile, on ext4. The exception is btrfs 
because it doesn't (maybe won't) support swapfiles, so two partitions would be 
needed.

b.) Glorious future of btrfs, subvols. Neiether LVM nor partitioning are 
necessary.

c.) Better than LVM, virtualize. Especially when testing.


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Adventures with TC4

2012-10-16 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R 

I have installed TC4 netinst a couple of times.
The problem with the screen going black during the default install remains.

I did another install after changing "quiet" to "nomodeset" in netinst.
This install proceeded properly, albeit at reduced resolution.
(Modulo dealing with a non empty HD)

The resulting system ran smoothly but still at less than full 1920x1080 res.
I successfully installed both the current release and later beta test Nvidia
display drivers.  Both worked properly doing the usual stuff for many hours
(WSPR, Audacity recording, LadyHeather in Wine).

Later I went back to the Noveau based HD to do some stuff and Noveau
spazzed out after about a half hour.

I haven't checked server functions but other than Anaconda it seems
the cow may be able to give milk.

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Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-16 Thread Adam Williamson 
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 22:31 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks. So it became clear over the course of the last few blocker
> reviews that the new partitioning criteria need a bit of refinement.
> Here is my proposal for altering them.

So...aside from the specific discussion of my proposals, I was thinking
some more in general about the design of the partitioning criteria, and
I'm starting to wonder if we're maybe getting too ambitious in terms of
what we require at Beta, especially compared to previous releases.

So if we go back again and look at how things were before, here is what
we required:

At Alpha, the offered autopart mechanisms except for 'shrink' had to
work: this covered wiping entire disks and autoparting into the empty
space, wiping only Linux partitions (preserving Windows ones) and
autoparting into the empty space, and autoparting into existing empty
space. It also covered LVM and non-LVM, and encrypted and non-encrypted,
variations on autopart, as these were offered on the autopart screen. We
did not require anything from custom partitioning.

At Beta, we added a requirement that the installer be able to install to
hardware and BIOS RAID arrays, and create and install to software RAID
arrays (softRAID is a function of custom partitioning; this is the only
thing we required to work in custom partitioning at Beta).

At Final, we basically required any viable partitioning scheme to work
(by implication and policy, custom partitioning issues were all
considered Final blockers, aside from softRAID).

So, we only required softRAID functionality from the custom partitioning
bit at Beta; all other requirements for custom partitioning were Final.

Now with F18 Alpha 'autopart' was very very basic so we kind of got the
idea that we'd have to require more custom part functionality to work at
Alpha and Beta, and we've been working on that basis so far. But taking
a step back and looking at it, the 'guided partitioning' flow in F18
Beta is much more capable and nearly matches what autopart in F17
offered. Without going into custom partitioning, you can autopart into
empty space, or wipe any combination of existing partitions if you do
not have sufficient free space. You can also encrypt the installation,
now. There's only really two things missing:

a) you can't wipe or shrink partitions if you have sufficient free
space, even if you want to (to provide *more* space for the install) -
you have to use custom partitioning if you want to do this

b) you can't do LVM without going into custom partitioning

but that's *all*. Everything else you could do with autopart in F17, you
can do with 'guided partitioning' in F18. So I'm not sure the approach
we're currently working on, of requiring extensive functionality from
the custom partitioning tool at Beta time, is necessarily warranted. We
could still decide we want certain things to work in custom partitioning
at Beta time, but we don't really have to just in order to maintain the
standards from previous releases, it would really constitute *raising*
our standards.

So I'd be interested in general opinions about whether we should go down
the path of requiring quite a bit of reliability from custom
partitioning at Beta stage, or whether we should perhaps dial that down
a bit, and only really require extensive functionality from custom
partitioning at Final stage, as we did for F17 and earlier. I'd
especially be interested in what the anaconda team thinks, so could you
folks chip in?

Once there's a clear consensus about which general path to take, I'll go
back to specific proposals, trying to incorporate the feedback to my
last attempt. Thanks!

BTW, on the topic of LVM specifically (whose importance we still haven't
really established): I did some archive-diving last week. We first went
to LVM-by-default all the way back in Fedora Core 3. There were two
reasons for doing this. The 'official' one was to make it easier to
expand the capacity of a system simply by adding another hard disk. The
less official reason was to get more testing of LVM, which was still in
its infancy at the time. Ever since then, we've stuck with the default
really just because it's always been there; until I started poking into
it, no-one really had a story for why LVM was default any more.

Neither reason really applies much any more. LVM is much more mature
now, and in a way is yesterday's news, the Glorious Future maybe belongs
to btrfs. And we've finally hit the point in history where most people
don't run out of space on the hard disk that comes with their system,
and even when they _do_ run out of space, it's usually not with OS data
but with 'user data' that is much easier to spread across multiple disks
without using LVM. So I'm not sure we really have a convincing reason
any more to care especially about LVM.
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16056/haproxy-1.4.22-1.fc16
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16028/mapserver-6.0.3-4.fc16
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16032/cobbler-2.4.0-beta2.fc16
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16055/thunderbird-16.0.1-1.fc16
  27  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14322/pcp-3.6.8-1.fc16
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16274/389-ds-base-1.2.10.15-1.fc16


The following Fedora 16 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16244/kernel-3.4.14-1.fc16
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16249/thunderbird-lightning-1.8-1.fc16,thunderbird-16.0.1-2.fc16
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16243/xulrunner-16.0.1-2.fc16
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16252/curl-7.21.7-8.fc16
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16251/perl-5.14.3-202.fc16
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16099/kde-settings-4.7-15.fc16
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16055/thunderbird-16.0.1-1.fc16
   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15556/nss-util-3.13.6-1.fc16,nss-softokn-3.13.6-1.fc16,nss-3.13.6-1.fc16
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15485/mdadm-3.2.5-10.fc16
The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 16 updates-testing

389-ds-base-1.2.10.15-1.fc16
anyremote-6.1.1-1.fc16
curl-7.21.7-8.fc16
fedora-review-0.3.1-1.fc16
fence-virt-0.3.0-2.fc16
hplip-3.12.10-3.a.fc16
kernel-3.4.14-1.fc16
latex2rtf-2.3.1-1.fc16
perl-5.14.3-202.fc16
qpid-cpp-0.18-4.fc16
seamonkey-2.13.1-1.fc16
thunderbird-16.0.1-2.fc16
thunderbird-lightning-1.8-1.fc16
wget-1.12-6.fc16
xulrunner-16.0.1-2.fc16

Details about builds:



 389-ds-base-1.2.10.15-1.fc16 (FEDORA-2012-16274)
 389 Directory Server (base)

Update Information:

cleanallruv support - Change on SLAPI_MODRDN_NEWSUPERIOR is not evaluated in 
ACL (ACL rules bypass possible)

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 16 2012 Rich Megginson  - 1.2.10.15-1
- Trac Ticket #340 - Change on SLAPI_MODRDN_NEWSUPERIOR is not evaluated in acl
- Ticket #491 - multimaster_extop_cleanruv returns wrong error codes
- 7bbaf35 COVERITY FIXES in replica_execute_cleanall_ruv_task
- 1f356fa CLEANALLRUV - remove calls to agmt_get_enabled because this feature 
is not in 1.2.10
- Ticket 477 - CLEANALLRUV if there are only winsync agmts task will hang
- Ticket 467 - CLEANALLRUV abort task should be able to ignore down replicas
- Ticket 450 - CLEANALLRUV task gets stuck on winsync replication agreement
- 8545947 CLEANALLRUV coverity fixes
- Ticket 403 - fix CLEANALLRUV regression from last commit
- Ticket 403 - CLEANALLRUV revisions
- Ticket 403 - cleanallruv coverity fixes
- Ticket 403 - CLEANALLRUV feature
- 4753f97 Update the slapi-plugin documentation on new slapi functions, and 
added a slapi function for checking on shutdowns
- b3f5a71 Coverity Fix
- Ticket 368 - Make the cleanAllRUV task one step
- Ticket #337 - Improve CLEANRUV task
- Ticket #353 - coverity 12625-12629 - leaks, dead code, unchecked return
- Ticket #337 - RFE - Improve CLEANRUV functionality
---

Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2012-10-16 Thread updates 
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15716/libxslt-1.1.27-2.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15996/cobbler-2.4.0-beta2.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15987/thunderbird-16.0.1-1.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16022/dhcp-4.2.4-18.P2.fc18,bind-dyndb-ldap-2.0-0.3.20121009git6a86b1.fc18,bind-9.9.2-2.fc18,dnsperf-2.0.0.0-3.fc18
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15342/freeradius-2.2.0-0.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16073/ssmtp-2.64-5.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16071/ruby-1.9.3.286-19.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16130/icecast-2.3.3-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16223/dracut-024-1.fc18


The following Fedora 18 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16207/thunderbird-lightning-1.8-1.fc18,thunderbird-16.0.1-2.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16223/dracut-024-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16209/xulrunner-16.0.1-2.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16227/network-manager-applet-0.9.7.0-3.git20121016.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16215/ntfs-3g-2012.1.15-5.fc18
   0  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16198/pam-1.1.6-3.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16194/metacity-2.34.13-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16185/pykickstart-1.99.20-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16193/ncurses-5.9-6.20121013.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16136/ilmbase-1.0.3-4.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16134/pyOpenSSL-0.13-4.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16145/harfbuzz-0.9.5-1.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16119/xorg-x11-drv-ati-7.0.0-0.7.20121015gitbd9e2c064.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16121/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.20.10-1.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16112/iptables-1.4.16.2-3.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16107/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.1.0-1.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16111/glibc-2.16-20.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16061/libosinfo-0.2.1-1.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15987/thunderbird-16.0.1-1.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15993/lorax-18.21-1.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16010/gtkhtml3-4.6.0-1.fc18,evolution-mapi-3.6.0-1.fc18,evolution-ews-3.6.0-1.fc18,evolution-data-server-3.6.0-1.fc18,evolution-3.6.0-1.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15936/cups-1.5.4-10.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15910/openldap-2.4.33-2.fc18
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15785/python-nss-0.13-0.fc18
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15776/kde-workspace-4.9.2-4.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15666/policycoreutils-2.1.13-8.fc18
   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15543/kdelibs-4.9.2-5.fc18
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15303/udisks2-2.0.0-1.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15008/kde-settings-4.9-14.fc18


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 18 updates-testing

SLOF-0.1.git20120731-1.fc18
almanah-0.10.0-1.fc18
apper-0.8.0-0.8.20121002git.fc18
autofs-5.0.7-5.fc18
ctstream-6-2.fc18
dracut-024-1.fc18
fedora-review-0.3.1-1.fc18
finger-0.17-46.fc18
fribidi-0.19.2-6.fc18
gnome-clocks-0.1.4-1.fc18
gnomebaker-0.6.4-15.fc18
hplip-3.12.10-3.a.fc18
httpd-2.4.3-10.fc18
ibus-libpinyin-1.4.93-1.fc18
leiningen-1.7.1-4.fc18
libgee-0.8.1-1.fc18
libpinyin-0.7.92-1.fc18
mapserver-6.0.3-6.fc18
mate-control-center-1.4.0-9.fc18
mate-themes-1.4.0-4.fc18
mate-window-manager-1.4.1-11.fc18
mod_wsgi-3.4-1.fc18
network-manager-applet-0.9.7.0-3.git20121016.fc18
ntfs-3g-2012.1.15-5.fc18
numad-0.5-7.20121015git.fc18
openbios-1.0.svn1063-1.fc18
openvswitch-1.7.1-3.fc18
pyfits-3.1-1.fc18
python-billiard-2.7.3.17-1.fc18
python-celery-3.0.11-1.fc18
python-kombu-2.4.7-1.fc18
python-nose-exclude-0.1.9-1.fc18
samba-4.0.0-157.fc18.rc3
scsi-target-utils-1.0.32-1.fc18
sgabios-0.20110622svn-1.fc18
thunderbird-16.0.1-2.fc18
thunderbird-lightning-1.8-1.fc18
wget-1.14-2.

[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Change Deadline pushed back by one week

2012-10-16 Thread Jaroslav Reznik 
FESCo, in cooperation with Fedora QA and Fedora Program Manager, 
decided to push back Fedora 18 Beta Change Deadline by one week due to
unfinished/non testable functionality required for the Beta release.

For more information (and voting results) see FESCo ticket #946,
"Fedora 18 Beta freeze readiness: is major functionality in place?" [1].

Beta Change Deadline/Features 100% Complete is now 2012-10-23.

There are still a few unfinished features [2], please update/postpone 
(to F19) your features before reaching the deadline.  

As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks,
will be pushed out by one week [3].

Jaroslav

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/946
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/FeatureList
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule

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Re: [Fedora QA] #306: Blockers that move to 'CLOSED' are not removed from the tracker page

2012-10-16 Thread Fedora QA 
#306: Blockers that move to 'CLOSED' are not removed from the tracker page
---+---
  Reporter:  tflink|  Owner:  tflink
  Type:  defect| Status:  closed
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 18
 Component:  Blocker bug tracker page  |Version:
Resolution:  fixed |   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---
Changes (by tflink):

 * resolution:   => fixed
 * status:  new => closed


Comment:

 A new version of the app has been released and I'm pretty sure that this
 was fixed a while ago - closing.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Blockerbugs 0.2 Released

2012-10-16 Thread Kamil Paral 
> The next version of QA's blocker tracking app was pushed to
> production
> today. New features include:
>  - Blocker/NTH Fix Tracking
>  - Test spin tracking
>  - Interface re-design
>* With help from the design team and Máirín Duffy in particular
>  - Basic stats on blocker/nth bugs
>  - Lots of minor fixes
> 
> http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/

Looks amazing. Great job.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Blockerbugs 0.2 Released

2012-10-16 Thread Jaroslav Reznik 
- Original Message -
> The next version of QA's blocker tracking app was pushed to
> production
> today. New features include:
>  - Blocker/NTH Fix Tracking
>  - Test spin tracking
>  - Interface re-design
>* With help from the design team and Máirín Duffy in particular
>  - Basic stats on blocker/nth bugs
>  - Lots of minor fixes
> 
> http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/
> 
> For testers:
>  - There is always an up-to-date list (synced every 30 minutes)
>of blocker and nth fixing updates that need to be tested
> 
> For developers:
>  - Since blocker and nth fixes are now being tracked like the bugs
>  are,
>updates with blocker/nth fixes should get more attention
>  - If you do have a blocker/nth fix, please mark it as such in bodhi
>  or
>it won't be noticed by the new app.
> 
> If you notice bugs or have suggestions on how the app could be
> improved, please file an issue in the qa trac:
>  - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/
> 
> Thanks,

Good job Tim! I like it!

Jaroslav

> Tim
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[Fedora QA] #318: track blockers closed as duplicates to non-blockers

2012-10-16 Thread Fedora QA 
#318: track blockers closed as duplicates to non-blockers
--+-
 Reporter:  kparal|   Owner:  tflink
 Type:  enhancement   |  Status:  new
 Priority:  major |   Milestone:
Component:  Blocker bug tracker page  | Version:
 Keywords:|  Blocked By:
 Blocking:|
--+-
 When bug A (proposed/accepted blocker) is closed as a duplicate of bug B
 (not proposed as a blocker), it disappears from the list. Unfortunately a
 lot of developers won't transfer the Blocks: and Whiteboard: fields, so we
 might lose track of some important bugs this way.

 Displaying A or B in the list even when this happens would be nice.
 Displaying B is probably the preferable way. There could be a special icon
 indicating that B is displayed because of recursive dependencies and
 tooltip would specify it is because of bug A.

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[Test-Announce] Blockerbugs 0.2 Released

2012-10-16 Thread Tim Flink 
The next version of QA's blocker tracking app was pushed to production
today. New features include:
 - Blocker/NTH Fix Tracking
 - Test spin tracking
 - Interface re-design
   * With help from the design team and Máirín Duffy in particular
 - Basic stats on blocker/nth bugs
 - Lots of minor fixes

http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/

For testers:
 - There is always an up-to-date list (synced every 30 minutes)
   of blocker and nth fixing updates that need to be tested

For developers:
 - Since blocker and nth fixes are now being tracked like the bugs are,
   updates with blocker/nth fixes should get more attention
 - If you do have a blocker/nth fix, please mark it as such in bodhi or
   it won't be noticed by the new app.

If you notice bugs or have suggestions on how the app could be
improved, please file an issue in the qa trac:
 - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/

Thanks,

Tim


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Re: excessive kswapd eating all CPU

2012-10-16 Thread John Ellson 

On 10/15/2012 11:13 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:

IIRC somebody recently mentioned really misbehaving kswapd.  In such
case the following would be of a high interest:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/12/206
(and the whole thread with this message).

A quick search through bugzilla did not find any report on the subject.
I possibly missed it but if not then whomever observed such misbehaviour
should add a bug report (with the above reference to lkml).

Michal



I saw this on my rawhide, i686, kvm vhost,  again, this morning.

Generated Bug #866988
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866988
and added a link to this thread.


After rebooting the load went away, so not sure what triggers the problem.

John



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F-18 Branched report: 20121016 changes

2012-10-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report 
Compose started at Tue Oct 16 09:15:33 UTC 2012

Broken deps for x86_64
--
[almanah]
almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit)
almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)
almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libecal-1.2.so.12()(64bit)
almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libebook-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
[dhcp-forwarder]
dhcp-forwarder-upstart-0.10-1801.fc18.noarch requires /sbin/initctl
[dustmite]
dustmite-1-5.20120304gitcde46e0.fc17.x86_64 requires 
libphobos-ldc.so.59()(64bit)
[epiphany-extensions]
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epiphany(abi) = 0:3.5
[evolution-exchange]
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libedata-cal-1.2.so.17()(64bit)
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libedata-book-1.2.so.14()(64bit)
evolution-exchange-3.5.2-1.fc18.x86_64 requires 
libecal-1.2.so.12()(64bit)
evolution-exchange-3.5.2-1.fc18.x86_64 requires 
libebook-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
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libcamel-1.2.so.36()(64bit)
[fedmsg]
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[flush]
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libboost_signals-mt.so.1.48.0()(64bit)
flush-0.9.10-7.fc18.x86_64 requires 
libboost_filesystem-mt.so.1.48.0()(64bit)
[func]
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gcc-python3-debug-plugin-0.9-5.fc18.x86_64 requires gcc = 0:4.7.2-2.fc18
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libboost_python.so.1.48.0()(64bit)
[gnome-pilot]
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libedataserverui-3.0.so.1()(64bit)
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libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)
gnome-pilot-eds-2.91.93-5.fc17.x86_64 requires 
libecal-1.2.so.11()(64bit)
gnome-pilot-eds-2.91.93-5.fc17.x86_64 requires 
libebook-1.2.so.13()(64bit)
[gnome-shell-theme-selene]
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[gwibber]
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Re: kernel: Request for unknown module key

2012-10-16 Thread John . Florian 
> From: Adam Williamson 
> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 08:51 -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> > > From: Carl G  
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > You should consult https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secureboot 
> > 
> > Okay, that page certainly sounds like a good start, but it seems short
> > on some details.  My custom spin uses only Fedora-provided boot
> > components, kernel and modules, yet I still get these messages.  Just
> > before livecd-creator reaches the %post of my kickstart, I see these: 
> > 
> > Missing EFI file (/boot/efi/EFI/*/shim.efi) 
> > Missing EFI file (/boot/efi/EFI/*/gcdx64.efi) 
> > Missing EFI file (/boot/efi/EFI/*/fonts/unicode.pf2) 
> > Failed to copy EFI files, no EFI Support will be included. 
> > Missing shim.efi, skipping efiboot.img creation. 
> > 
> > So maybe I'm just missing some new required things in my kickstart?
> 
> Though Josh cleared up the issue and these messages weren't related, I
> thought I'd cover those too, just in case anyone else is seeing them and
> wondering: you'd need to have grub2-efi in your kickstart to make those
> go away. The only effect of not having it is that the image generated
> will have no UEFI support, it'll work fine in all other respects.
> 
> Note that you also need livecd-creator 18.12 to get viable UEFI live
> images with the current F18 package set, as some files that earlier
> livecd-creator versions looked for were relocated or removed in other
> packages .


Thanks Adam for that additional info.  I'm going to add that to my 
kickstart even though I don't have EFI hardware to support, not so much to 
quiet the noise but more because I have the unenviable job of making a 
spin that will ideally work on hardware we don't own yet or may not even 
be manufactured yet.

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John Florian
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