Re: Request for focused testing on containers (LVM, btrfs) in F19 Beta TCs

[Adam Williamson]

On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 21:55 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 05/02/2013 08:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > On May 1, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, folks. I wanted to pass along a special request from the anaconda
> >> team for those of you who are helping to test the Beta TCs (for which,
> >> thanks!)
> >>
> >> There are some substantial changes to the handling of containers in
> >> custom partitioning that landed just prior to the TCs starting up.
> >
> > I think a new anaconda is needed before there's another TC. anaconda 
> > 19.23-1 is totally unusable for me in Manual Partitioning, whether I'm 
> > using LVM, BTRFS, or Standard Partitioning. In just a few hours I've hit 
> > this bug over a dozen times in different ways to the point I'm giving up. 
> > Simple things like adding a partition or modifying it are causing the 
> > problem, nothing even remotely exotic.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958897
> >
> >
> > Chris Murphy
> >
> 
> Ditto

Noted, I've nominated it as a blocker (it looks like one) and asked the
anaconda team if they can come up with a fix quickly. Thanks!
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Update Information:

New sip/PyQt4 releases, see also:
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http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/news/pyqt-4101

ChangeLog:

* Thu May  2 2013 Rex Dieter  4.10.1-3
- ImportError: cannot import name uic (#958736)
* Fri Apr 26 2013 Rex Dieter  4.10.1-2
- filter private shared objects
- %{python_sitelib}/dbus/mainloop/qt.so should be in %python_sitearch (#957260)
- .spec cleanup
- -assistant subpkg
* Mon Apr 22 2013 Rex Dieter  4.10.1-1
- 4.10.1
* Tue Apr  2 2013 Than Ngo  - 4.10-3
- adapt rhel patch
* Fri Mar 22 2013 Rex Dieter  4.10-2
- introduce qscintilla, webkit feature macros

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #923233 - [abrt] ninja-ide-2.1.1-4.fc18: 
highlighter.py:326:realtime_highlight:AttributeError: 'QTextBlockUserData' 
object has no attribute 'clear_data'
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=923233
  [ 2 ] Bug #957260 - PyQt4: %{python_sitelib}/dbus/mainloop/qt.so should be in 
%python_sitearch
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=957260




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 Utilities for making and checking MS-DOS FAT filesystems on Linux

Re: Request for focused testing on containers (LVM, btrfs) in F19 Beta TCs

[Clyde E. Kunkel]

On 05/02/2013 08:43 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:


On May 1, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:


Hi, folks. I wanted to pass along a special request from the anaconda
team for those of you who are helping to test the Beta TCs (for which,
thanks!)

There are some substantial changes to the handling of containers in
custom partitioning that landed just prior to the TCs starting up.


I think a new anaconda is needed before there's another TC. anaconda 19.23-1 is 
totally unusable for me in Manual Partitioning, whether I'm using LVM, BTRFS, 
or Standard Partitioning. In just a few hours I've hit this bug over a dozen 
times in different ways to the point I'm giving up. Simple things like adding a 
partition or modifying it are causing the problem, nothing even remotely exotic.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958897


Chris Murphy



Ditto

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Re: Request for focused testing on containers (LVM, btrfs) in F19 Beta TCs

[Chris Murphy]

On May 1, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:

> Hi, folks. I wanted to pass along a special request from the anaconda
> team for those of you who are helping to test the Beta TCs (for which,
> thanks!)
> 
> There are some substantial changes to the handling of containers in
> custom partitioning that landed just prior to the TCs starting up.

I think a new anaconda is needed before there's another TC. anaconda 19.23-1 is 
totally unusable for me in Manual Partitioning, whether I'm using LVM, BTRFS, 
or Standard Partitioning. In just a few hours I've hit this bug over a dozen 
times in different ways to the point I'm giving up. Simple things like adding a 
partition or modifying it are causing the problem, nothing even remotely exotic.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958897


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Re: libreport not working on alpha?

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 08:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2013-04-27 at 18:05 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >> I'm getting crashes in anaconda, and the "An unknown error has occurred" 
> >> box appears, when I click Report Bug, the box vanishes, then returns. I 
> >> cannot proceed and report the bug. Is anyone else seeing this? I thought 
> >> this was an alpha blocking type of bug?
> > 
> > Just to confirm your follow-up, I filed crashes from both RC3 and RC4
> > testing, so definitely didn't affect Alpha.
> 
> Understood. There's a bug somewhere, however, because we should be able to 
> update anaconda and still have the ability to automatically capture and 
> upload crash data. I've filed a bug against libreport.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=957789

Thanks. I just came across this bug reported by a different path and
nominated it as a beta blocker - bug reporting from anaconda is an Alpha
requirement, so any time a bug like this crops up, it's great if you can
nominate it as a blocker :)

As it's now nominated as a blocker, we'll pull the fix into TC3 and we
can test it, even if it doesn't go stable before then.
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libreport filing duplicate bugs

[Chris Murphy]

I'm finding that libreport is filing duplicate bugs with beta TC1. It says it's 
found a duplicate bug, but lists the new bug ID it's already filed, while also 
asking (too late) if I want to file a new bug anyway.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958961


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Re: Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 20:38:01 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
It looks like there is an issue with yum-3.4.3-88.fc20 not working 
properly, blocking updates. I have filed a but report 
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958531) for this, but it 
hasn't been confirmed yet.


Probably when there is one, some hand holding will be needed to 
update yum or whatever broke it.


Bill fixed this and the new yum will be in tonight's rawhide compose. 
You can use 'yum update yum' to update to the new yum and things will 
be all good again.

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Re: Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 13:35:32 -0400,
  Bill Nottingham  wrote:

Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said:

On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:20:59 -0400,
  Bill Nottingham  wrote:
>
>Sorry about that. Patch attached in bz, can build if people want.

I tested the patch and it worked for me. It would be nice if someone
would do a build today so it gets into tomorrow's rawhide.


Done.


Thanks again!
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charset in virtual consoles

[Felix Miata]

MC in at least two F19 3.9.0 systems here in USA English is not using box 
drawing characters like it should. Is this happening to others?

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Re: Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Bill Nottingham]

Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: 
> On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:20:59 -0400,
>   Bill Nottingham  wrote:
> >
> >Sorry about that. Patch attached in bz, can build if people want.
> 
> I tested the patch and it worked for me. It would be nice if someone
> would do a build today so it gets into tomorrow's rawhide.

Done.

Bill
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Re: Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:20:59 -0400,
  Bill Nottingham  wrote:


Sorry about that. Patch attached in bz, can build if people want.


I tested the patch and it worked for me. It would be nice if someone 
would do a build today so it gets into tomorrow's rawhide.


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Re: Super/System/Windows/Whatever key (was: my impressions of F19A...)

[Jay Finger]

The best keyboard website is geekhack.org.  You'll many keyboard
suggestions there, as well as more than you ever wanted to know about
keyboards.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Felix Miata  wrote:

> On 2013-05-01 22:06 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
>
>  On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 15:39 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>>
>
>  Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>
>  > I've never quite got the 'being proud of having a keyboard with no Super
>>> > key' thing. It's a handy key. But anyway, this is a general
>>> introductory
>>> > video to GNOME aimed at very new users; if you're geeky enough to have
>>> > gone out and carefully sourced a keyboard with no Super key, you are
>>> not
>>> > the target audience of the video, so that doesn't really seem to be a
>>> > problem.
>>>
>>
>  Based on the pictures that DJ posted later, it looks like his keyboard
>>> is the same IBM model M that I have, and I sure as heck didn't "care-
>>> fully source" a Super key-less keyboard.  As far as I know, the Windows/
>>> Super key hadn't been invented when my keyboard was manufactured back in
>>> 1996.  (If it had been invented, it certainly wasn't ubiquitous.)
>>>
>>
>  Okay, okay, if you're still using one, you get a pass. But come on,
>> understand that about 99% of existing PC keyboards have a
>> Super/System/Windows/Whatever key, and it seems kind of a waste of
>> effort to hack up the video just to acknowledge those of us who still
>> have prehistoric keyboards. I mean, can we agree it's a bit nitpicky?
>>
>
> I too use a heavy, ancient IBM keyboard, but only for lack of adequate
> quantity of better. My (3) primaries also were acquired last century. I'd
> love to have extra keys if I could find any affordable models made for
> touch typing, with:
>
> CAPSLOCK in typewriter location beside spacebar (via option or otherwise)
> traditional inverted T cursor pad,
> large "L" enter/return key,
> oversized backspace key, AND
> all function keys usable by touch in conjunction with any or all "shift"
> keys using a single, non-giant hand
>
> like these:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**w/index.php?title=File:**
> Omnikey102p3248.jpg
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**w/index.php?title=File:**
> ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg
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Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[piruthiviraj natarajan]

I am using dnf as an alternative.

yum update results in garbage output complaining errors with  yum.noarch
0:3.4.3-88.fc20 and it ultimately doesn't update anything.

Is a fix coming?
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Re: Super/System/Windows/Whatever key

[Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R]

On 05/02/2013 08:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2013-05-01 22:06 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 15:39 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:



Adam Williamson wrote:


> I've never quite got the 'being proud of having a keyboard with no 
Super
> key' thing. It's a handy key. But anyway, this is a general 
introductory
> video to GNOME aimed at very new users; if you're geeky enough to 
have
> gone out and carefully sourced a keyboard with no Super key, you 
are not

> the target audience of the video, so that doesn't really seem to be a
> problem.



Based on the pictures that DJ posted later, it looks like his keyboard
is the same IBM model M that I have, and I sure as heck didn't "care-
fully source" a Super key-less keyboard.  As far as I know, the 
Windows/
Super key hadn't been invented when my keyboard was manufactured 
back in

1996.  (If it had been invented, it certainly wasn't ubiquitous.)



Okay, okay, if you're still using one, you get a pass. But come on,
understand that about 99% of existing PC keyboards have a
Super/System/Windows/Whatever key, and it seems kind of a waste of
effort to hack up the video just to acknowledge those of us who still
have prehistoric keyboards. I mean, can we agree it's a bit nitpicky?


I too use a heavy, ancient IBM keyboard, but only for lack of adequate 
quantity of better. My (3) primaries also were acquired last century. 
I'd love to have extra keys if I could find any affordable models made 
for touch typing, with:


CAPSLOCK in typewriter location beside spacebar (via option or otherwise)
traditional inverted T cursor pad,
large "L" enter/return key,
oversized backspace key, AND
all function keys usable by touch in conjunction with any or all 
"shift" keys using a single, non-giant hand


like these:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Omnikey102p3248.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg 


I have fond memories of the Omnikey keyboards.

I am currently using an SIIG keyboard with mechanical key switches.
The SIIG was flakey until I reseated the cable connector inside the 
keyboard.

The SIIG is sensitive to RF fields.   But it does have a good feel.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

[Adam Williamson]

On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 01:15 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
> Hi,
>  Fedora-Live-LXDE-i686-19-Beta-TC2-1.iso01-May-2013 19:47  707M still no 
> successful boot. Will there be
> 
> development on LXDE in F19 Beta?

Yeah, it's a shame. I'll have to see if I can dig up cwickert from
somewhere, he might be busy with something else.
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Re: Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Christopher Meng]

Yes. It cannot update via "yum update".

But you can specify which one you'd like to update "yum update foo"
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Re: Super/System/Windows/Whatever key (was: my impressions of F19A...)

[Felix Miata]

On 2013-05-01 22:06 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 15:39 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:



Adam Williamson wrote:



> I've never quite got the 'being proud of having a keyboard with no Super
> key' thing. It's a handy key. But anyway, this is a general introductory
> video to GNOME aimed at very new users; if you're geeky enough to have
> gone out and carefully sourced a keyboard with no Super key, you are not
> the target audience of the video, so that doesn't really seem to be a
> problem.



Based on the pictures that DJ posted later, it looks like his keyboard
is the same IBM model M that I have, and I sure as heck didn't "care-
fully source" a Super key-less keyboard.  As far as I know, the Windows/
Super key hadn't been invented when my keyboard was manufactured back in
1996.  (If it had been invented, it certainly wasn't ubiquitous.)



Okay, okay, if you're still using one, you get a pass. But come on,
understand that about 99% of existing PC keyboards have a
Super/System/Windows/Whatever key, and it seems kind of a waste of
effort to hack up the video just to acknowledge those of us who still
have prehistoric keyboards. I mean, can we agree it's a bit nitpicky?


I too use a heavy, ancient IBM keyboard, but only for lack of adequate 
quantity of better. My (3) primaries also were acquired last century. I'd 
love to have extra keys if I could find any affordable models made for touch 
typing, with:


CAPSLOCK in typewriter location beside spacebar (via option or otherwise)
traditional inverted T cursor pad,
large "L" enter/return key,
oversized backspace key, AND
all function keys usable by touch in conjunction with any or all "shift" keys 
using a single, non-giant hand


like these:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Omnikey102p3248.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg
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Re: Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Bill Nottingham]

Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: 
> On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 20:38:01 -0500,
>   Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
> >It looks like there is an issue with yum-3.4.3-88.fc20 not working
> >properly, blocking updates. I have filed a but report
> >(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958531) for this, but
> >it hasn't been confirmed yet.
> >
> >Probably when there is one, some hand holding will be needed to
> >update yum or whatever broke it.
> 
> Downgrading to yum-3.4.3-87.fc20 works around the problem. You can
> download it from koji and use rpm -Uvh --oldpackage
> yum-3.4.3-87.fc20.noarch.rpm to install it.

Sorry about that. Patch attached in bz, can build if people want.

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Re: Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 20:38:01 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
It looks like there is an issue with yum-3.4.3-88.fc20 not working 
properly, blocking updates. I have filed a but report 
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958531) for this, but it 
hasn't been confirmed yet.


Probably when there is one, some hand holding will be needed to 
update yum or whatever broke it.


Downgrading to yum-3.4.3-87.fc20 works around the problem. You can download 
it from koji and use rpm -Uvh --oldpackage yum-3.4.3-87.fc20.noarch.rpm 
to install it.

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Re: Linux 3.10 in Rawhide

[Dave Jones]

On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 01:14:46AM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
 > After the disappointing results with Beta TC1 I decided to play with
 > 64 bit rawhide with the 3.10 kernel.
 > 
 > As usual I used F18 pxeboot to install rawhide.  Gnome had dependency
 > problems so I installed Xfce.  I discovered that pxeboot install was flakely
 > running through a wrt54 hub.  That cleared up when I switched to a
 > direct line to the 16 port gigabit hub in the basement.
 > 
 > Rawhide has now been running for 7 hours on the 2 GB Celeron 430
 > that was crashing with recent Fedora 19 installs.   The Celeron is
 > controlling an HP 3586B selective voltmeter under GPIB control.
 > 
 > The 3.10 kernel seems to running fine on the Intel 3770 as well.
 > 
 > The previously reported machine dependencies with Wine remain.
 > 
 > I tried the 32 bit rawhide on the E6550.  NFS was still broken so
 > no testing.
 > 
 > Other than the stability of 3.10, the only other difference I noted was in a
 > gnuradio-companion script.  hw:0,0 in audio source had to be changed to
 > plughw:0,0 to run.
 > 
 > Will 3.10 be in Fedora 19?

As Bruno said, not until post release.
You can find our rebase plans here 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel#Current_versions

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 i18n Test day - May 02, 2013

[Aman Alam]

Hi
today May 02, 2013, we have Fedora i18n (Localization) Test Day.

wiki: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-02_Localization_%28i18n%29

IRC: #fedora-test-day, #fedora-i18n (freenode)

Please feel free to file bugs or query on irc if you have any issue for 
your language.


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Re: Linux 3.10 in Rawhide

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 01:14:46 -0700,
  Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R  wrote:


Will 3.10 be in Fedora 19?


I believe the plan is to release f19 with a 3.9 kernel. Then it would get 
a 3.10 kernel at some point in updates.


Right now the kernels aren't very tied to the releases, so running f20 
(including the rawhide nodebug kernels) on otherwise f19 systems works 
fine.

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F-19 Branched report: 20130502 changes

[Fedora Branched Report]

Compose started at Thu May  2 09:15:02 UTC 2013

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Re: [Fedora QA] #344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day

[Fedora QA]

#344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day
---+---
  Reporter:  aalam |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---

Comment (by aalam):

 Replying to [comment:8 kparal]:
 > I contacted aalam several days ago about this, but he didn't respond.
 You really should use a special Test Day images, they are many benefits.
 But it's too late now.
 I think we worked on https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/345
 (Translation test day) and we used Image created by you (20 days before),
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ghc-show-0.4.1.2-4.fc19.x86_64 requires 
ghc(smallcheck-0.6.1-909159f2996454c279da80ced02cfe48)
ghc-show-devel-0.4.1.2-4.fc19.x86_64 requires 
ghc-devel(smallcheck-0.6.1-909159f2996454c279da80ced02cfe48)
[glabels]
glabels-3.0.1-7.fc20.x86_64 requires libedata-book-1.2.so.17()(64bit)
[gnome-applet-sensors]
gnome-applet-sensors-3.0.0-4.fc18.i686 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0
gnome-applet-sensors-3.0.0-4.fc18.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit)
[gnome-contacts]
gnome-contacts-3.8.1-1.fc20.x86_64 requires 
libedata-book-1.2.so.17()(64bit)
[gooddata-cl]
gooddata-cl-1.2.56-2.fc19.noarch requires gdata-java
[kawa]
1:kawa-1.11-5.fc19.x86_64 requires servlet25
[kdevelop-custom-buildsystem]
kdevelop-custom-buildsystem-1.2.2-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libkdevplatformutil.so.6()(64bit)
kdevelop-custom-buildsystem-1.2.2-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libkdevplatformproject.so.6()(64bit)
kdevelop-custom-buildsystem-1.2.2-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libkdevplatformoutputview.so.6()(64bit)
kdevelop-custom-buildsystem-1.2.2-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libkdevplatformlanguage.so.6()(64bit)
kdevelop-custom-buildsystem-1.2.2-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libkdevplatforminterfaces.so.6()(64bit)
[lancet]
lancet-1.0.1-6.fc19.noarch requires ant-nodeps >= 0:1.7.1
[libkolab]
php-kolab-0.4.1-3.fc19.x86_64 requires php(zend-abi) = 0:20100525-x86-64
php-kolab-0.4.1-3.fc19.x86_64 requires php(api) = 0:20100412-x86-64
[libvirt-qmf]
libvirt-qmf-0.3.0-6.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libmcommon_qmf.so.1.0.0()(64bit)
libvirt-qmf-0.3.0-6.fc19.x86_64 requires libmcommon.so.1.0.0()(64bit)
[mapserver]
php-mapserver-6.0.3-9.fc19.x86_64 requires php(zend-abi) = 
0:20100525-x86-64
   

Re: Linux 3.10 in Rawhide

[Christopher Meng]

I just found that oops happened.
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Re: [Fedora QA] #352: F-19 Fedora test day focusing on new SSSD features and AD integration

[Fedora QA]

#352: F-19 Fedora test day focusing on new SSSD features and AD integration
---+---
  Reporter:  jhrozek   |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---

Comment (by jhrozek):

 We're reviewing one last patchset on the SSSD devel list, then we'll
 release the beta upstream and put the build into Fedora.

 It's likely we'll end up refreshing the build before the test day to
 include additional fixes, though.

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Re: my impressions of F19A, from Radeon testing day

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 15:39 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 04/25/2013 10:52 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I've never quite got the 'being proud of having a keyboard with no Super
> > key' thing. It's a handy key. But anyway, this is a general introductory
> > video to GNOME aimed at very new users; if you're geeky enough to have
> > gone out and carefully sourced a keyboard with no Super key, you are not
> > the target audience of the video, so that doesn't really seem to be a
> > problem.
> 
> Based on the pictures that DJ posted later, it looks like his keyboard
> is the same IBM model M that I have, and I sure as heck didn't "care-
> fully source" a Super key-less keyboard.  As far as I know, the Windows/
> Super key hadn't been invented when my keyboard was manufactured back in
> 1996.  (If it had been invented, it certainly wasn't ubiquitous.)

Okay, okay, if you're still using one, you get a pass. But come on,
understand that about 99% of existing PC keyboards have a
Super/System/Windows/Whatever key, and it seems kind of a waste of
effort to hack up the video just to acknowledge those of us who still
have prehistoric keyboards. I mean, can we agree it's a bit nitpicky?
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Re: [Fedora QA] #344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day

[Fedora QA]

#344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day
---+---
  Reporter:  aalam |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---

Comment (by adamwill):

 Hi tagoh! I've moved the pages to the new name - sorry to be late. If
 you're worried about the schedule we can move to 9th, or go ahead
 tomorrow.

 We built Beta TC2 today:

 https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Beta-TC2/Live/

 it seems pretty workable. I'll test it a bit more and if it seems okay,
 I'll link it as the live image for the Test Day.

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Re: RFC: Multipath testing as a (optional?) criteria for RC?

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 17:01 +0200, Phil Knirsch wrote:
> Hi guys.
> 
> I'd like to open up the discussion about getting multipath testing as a 
> (optional) criteria for RC.
> 
> I understand that the typical Fedora user most likely will never 
> encounter or use multipath, but as we do have server users for Fedora 
> there might be some merit to it.
> 
> We've ran into this on the ppc64 side the last few releases where we did 
> test this during our alpha, beta and rc checks and worked with the 
> respective maintainers to fix the issues we found.
> 
> So if there is an interest to make this a general test case we'd 
> certainly be able to provide a QE template with all the necessary steps.
> 
> And as mentioned, even if it's not going to be a blocking criteria maybe 
> having it as included as an optional test case might still be worth it.
> 
> Let me know what you guys think.

So a couple of things: there's the test cases and the criteria. The test
cases enforce the criteria, the criteria back the test cases.

So there's no such thing as 'optional criteria' - the criteria are
always mandatory =) We do have 'optional test cases', though: these are
test cases that don't enforce any particular criterion and hence don't
have to pass, but that it seems like a good idea to test. Those are the
things listed as 'Optional' at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_19_Install_Results_Template .

I don't think there'd be any objections at all to adding an optional
test case for multipath, certainly. So that would be the first thing to
do, and if you want to go ahead and contribute one, that would be
awesome. Really, all you need to do is go ahead and write the test case,
edit it into
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_19_Install_Results_Template in
the appropriate spot (probably with the other 'optional' tests, at the
bottom), and let the list know you've done it - we can review it.

Adding a release criterion is a more significant action and that
requires discussion / consensus for sure. I'm not sure if we want to
block a Fedora release on multipath functionality, but I don't really
have a lot of data for that, it's just a feeling. Does anyone have good
arguments for/against covering multipath in the criteria? Johann has a
good point about hardware availability; it should usually be the case
that the QA folks who work for Red Hat should be able to get access to
multipath hardware for testing one way or another, but that may not be
enough for us to feel comfortable.

If we did decide to cover multipath functionality in the criteria, all
we'd have to do to the test case is change it from 'Optional' to 'Final'
in the template at that point. No problem at all. So definitely the
first step is just to write the test case and add that in.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

[Joerg Lechner]

Hi,

 Fedora-Live-LXDE-i686-19-Beta-TC2-1.iso01-May-2013 19:47  707M still no 
successful boot. Will there be
development on LXDE in F19 Beta?
 Kind Regards Joerg 


 

 

 

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Von: Andre Robatino 
An: test-announce 
Verschickt: Mi, 1 Mai 2013 10:15 pm
Betreff: [Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!


NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602 . Please
see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and
testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the
fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a
mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it,
just replace "dl" with "download-ib01" in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

Note that due to a bug, the above link currently redirects to 19 Alpha
bugs. Click on "Fedora 19 Beta" at the top of the page to see the Beta bugs.

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


 
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

[Andre Robatino]

NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:2 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace "dl" with "download-ib01" in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

Note that due to a bug, the above link currently redirects to 19 Alpha
bugs. Click on "Fedora 19 Beta" at the top of the page to see the Beta bugs.

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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Fedora 18 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 113  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0416/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc18
  82  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2131/rubygem-rdoc-3.12-6.fc18
  78  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2306/rubygem-rack-1.4.0-5.fc18
  47  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3935/puppet-3.1.1-1.fc18
  40  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4243/stunnel-4.55-1.fc18
  32  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4589/tomcat6-6.0.36-2.fc18
  27  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4823/microcode_ctl-2.0-3.fc18
  20  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5472/php-geshi-1.0.8.11-3.fc18
  19  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5548/plexus-archiver-2.3-1.fc18
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6417/owncloud-4.5.10-1.fc18
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6534/telepathy-idle-0.1.15-1.fc18
   6  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6656/gogoc-1.2-24.fc18
   6  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6641/xen-4.2.2-1.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6721/openstack-keystone-2012.2.4-2.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6762/python-pip-1.3.1-1.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6766/curl-7.27.0-9.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6977/phpMyAdmin-3.5.8.1-1.fc18
   1  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7135/xmp-3.5.0-3.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7120/tinc-1.0.21-1.fc18


The following Fedora 18 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 199  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16107/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.1.0-1.fc18
 197  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16207/thunderbird-lightning-1.8-1.fc18,thunderbird-16.0.1-2.fc18
  81  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2192/nautilus-3.6.3-5.fc18
  57  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3458/iproute-3.6.0-7.fc18,iptables-1.4.18-1.fc18
  20  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5350/abrt-2.1.3-2.fc18,libreport-2.1.3-1.fc18
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6016/krb5-1.10.3-16.fc18
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6207/sendmail-8.14.7-1.fc18
   9  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6297/gcr-3.6.2-4.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6742/dmidecode-2.12-2.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6761/xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.6.3-3.fc18
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6850/gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.0.7-1.fc18,gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.0.7-1.fc18,gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.0.7-1.fc18,gstreamer1-1.0.7-1.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7131/perl-threads-1.86-243.fc18,perl-Version-Requirements-0.101022-243.fc18,perl-Test-Simple-0.98-243.fc18,perl-Carp-1.26-243.fc18,perl-ExtUtils-Manifest-1.61-243.fc18,perl-parent-0.225-243.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7223/glibc-2.16-31.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7235/colord-0.1.34-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7211/libwacom-0.7.1-2.fc18
   0  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6209/ibus-1.5.2-3.fc18
The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 18 updates-testing

boinc-client-7.0.65-1.git79b00ef.fc18
colord-0.1.34-1.fc18
colorhug-client-0.2.0-1.fc18
czmq-1.4.1-1.fc18
drupal6-votingapi-2.3-8.fc18
glibc-2.16-31.fc18
ibus-1.5.2-3.fc18
ibus-kkc-1.5.11-1.fc18
libkkc-0.2.1-1.fc18
libsidplayfp-1.0.1-4.fc18
libwacom-0.7.1-2.fc18
mksh-45-1.fc18
mozilla-https-everywhere-3.2-1.fc18
nagstamon-0.9.9-8.fc18
pki-ra-10.0.2-2.fc18
pki-tps-10.0.2-2.fc18
pynag-0.4.9-1.fc18
python-Traits-4.3.0-1.fc18
python-cliapp-1.20130424-1.fc18
python-genshi-0.7-3.fc18
rubygem-sequel-3.46.0-2.fc18
scim-array-1.0.1-9.fc18
tegrarcm-1.2-1.fc18
trac-0.12.3-5.fc18

Details about builds:



 boinc-client-7.0.65-1.git79b00ef.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-7212)
 The BOINC client core

Update Information:

-Update to 7.0.65, see 
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/VersionHistory#Version7.0.29-7.0.65 for 
changes.

ChangeLog:

* Sun Apr 28 2013 Miloš Jakubíček  - 7.0.65-1.git79b00ef
- Update to 7.0.65
- Fix /var/lib/boinc user and group (typ

Re: fedup testing

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 05:46 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:

> > fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog /root/fed1.log --instrepo 
> > http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/19-Alpha/Fedora/x86_64/os/
> > 
> > But, I suppose, we're not yet to the point where this kind of testing is 
> > expected to work.
> 
> Adam Williamson wrote "it's not required to work till Beta"

Well, 'expected' and 'required' are somewhat different :) We're still
shaking out the fedup process, I think, but of course it'd be ideal if
it was testable/working as much of the time as possible.

Several people have reported that it works with the latest fedup from
f18 updates-testing (though I've seen one report that the latest fedup
in f*17* updates-testing breaks upgrading to f18, so it seems we lost on
the swings what we gained on the roundabouts...)
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Re: Fedora-19-Alpha-x86_64-DVD.iso will not boot on VMWare Fusion

[Adam Williamson]

On Sat, 2013-04-27 at 15:15 -0700, Jay Finger wrote:
> 1) 2GB RAM, 60GB drive, 2 cores.
> 2) the latter: problem when booting the LiveCD to install

I've seen a few other reports that it fails on VMware, it seems like it
may be the case that Alpha just doesn't fly on VMware. We do most of our
virt testing on KVM, and then probably VirtualBox gets more testing than
VMware.

Can you check Beta TC2 (released earlier today, check the archives on
this list for details)? If that doesn't fly, we'll probably want to
check into this. We don't formally require Fedora releases to work on
VMware, but it'd suck if Beta didn't. Thanks!
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Re: Question regarding bug filing on gnome components

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 10:27 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote:
> I'm running Fedora 19 alpha, and have a question on the most appropriate
> place to file bugs on gnome components like epiphany and gedit. Should I
> file in the Fedora bugzilla or directly to the Gnome bugzilla?

Hi Michael!

If you can tell that the bug is to do with the Fedora package and not
the upstream source, then definitely file it downstream.

If you're pretty sure the bug is present in the upstream source, you can
file it downstream or upstream. Johann strongly believes that we
'should' be able to file it downstream and the maintainers should handle
it from there, but from a practical perspective, I find that filing
upstream usually works best, if you don't mind the inconvenience.
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Re: Fedora-19-Alpha-x86_64-DVD.iso will not boot on VMWare Fusion

[Adam Williamson]

On Sat, 2013-04-27 at 15:15 -0700, Jay Finger wrote:
> 1) 2GB RAM, 60GB drive, 2 cores.
> 2) the latter: problem when booting the LiveCD to install
> 
> 
> Forgot to mention, I did verify the sha256 hash on the downloaded ISO.

After some further research today, it looks like
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7181/xorg-x11-drv-vmware-13.0.1-1.fc19
 may fix this. I'll try and get it pulled into TC3 when we roll that. If anyone 
can test without a TC image, please do, and karma up the update!
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Re: [Fedora QA] #364: Abrt test day request for 2013-05-07

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#364: Abrt test day request for 2013-05-07
---+---
  Reporter:  dkutalek  |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---

Comment (by kparal):

 Guys, provide me with a list of builds you want to have present on the
 LiveCD, or even some scripts to adjust the default system configuration if
 you need to, and I'll build you a custom Test Day LiveCD for you.

 Or you can do that yourselves, if you want:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Live_Image

 Let us know.

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Request for focused testing on containers (LVM, btrfs) in F19 Beta TCs

[Adam Williamson]

Hi, folks. I wanted to pass along a special request from the anaconda
team for those of you who are helping to test the Beta TCs (for which,
thanks!)

There are some substantial changes to the handling of containers in
custom partitioning that landed just prior to the TCs starting up.
Containers are LVM volume groups and btrfs volumes, basically. We don't
really need to go into much detail on the changes, but here's what would
really help:

Please, just exercise the code, and file bugs if you hit crashes or
failures. UI feedback is nice but we're mostly after bugs, here. Of
course, the usual advice not to install on production systems goes
double here, but if you have test systems or VMs, use 'em! We need to
try stuff like containers that span multiple disks, resizing containers,
changing various properties of them, trying to set up LVM-on-RAID (which
now ought to be possible, I believe). It'd be ideal if people can focus
on 'plausible' cases - it is useful to get bugs like 'if I go back and
forward 20 times then try to create a 500 petabyte container on my 40GB
SSD, it crashes', but the best bugs are ones that people are reasonably
likely to hit when trying to do something practical.

It would be helpful if you could put 'newui-container' in the 'Devel
Whiteboard' field in Bugzilla when filing your bugs - that way the devs
can identify them as related to this testing effort. If you have the
relevant powers, you can also assign them to dlehman AT redhat,
otherwise we'll go through and do them periodically.

Thanks a lot, folks!
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Rawhide heads up - Expect yum problems

[Bruno Wolff III]

It looks like there is an issue with yum-3.4.3-88.fc20 not working properly, 
blocking updates. I have filed a but report 
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958531) for this, but it hasn't 
been confirmed yet.


Probably when there is one, some hand holding will be needed to update 
yum or whatever broke it.

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Re: F18, F19 webalizer problem?

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 16:42 +0300, Cristian Sava wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 08:30 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Jonathan Kamens  said:
> > > This, however, is fine:
> > > 
> > > [ "$WEBALIZER_CRON" != yes ]
> > > 
> > > because the quotes ensure that the statement will be evaluated with an 
> > > expression to the left of the != even if the expression is just an empty 
> > > string.
> > > 
> > > This is fine too:
> > > 
> > > [ z$WEBALIZER_CRON != zyes ]
> > > 
> > > because if the variable is empty, the expression to the left will be "z" 
> > > rather than an empty string.
> > 
> > The reason some use a combination of quotes and a leading character is
> > for testing user-provided input.  It shouldn't matter in this case, but
> > it is just a little bit more defensive programming.
> > 
> > The problem if you are testing a user-provided variable is that they
> > could give input that starts with a dash, a close bracket, etc., and
> > that would screw up the test.  Putting a character at the start protects
> > against that.
> > 
> > Also, always quoting the variable is good programming practice; it could
> > have whitespace in it, in which case the non-quoted version would expand
> > to multiple tokens (and again break).
> > 
> > So, still today, the best defensive way is:
> > 
> >[ "z$WEBALIZER_CRON" != zyes ]
> > 
> > -- 
> > Chris Adams 
> > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
> > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

> Good to know. Thank you very much,

I think we *all* learned something here today :)

(actually I finally figured out the reason for this independently, just
last month or so. Only took me thirteen years of Linux use...)
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Fedora 17 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 300  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10269/revelation-0.4.14-1.fc17
 112  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0455/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc17
  82  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2143/rubygem-rdoc-3.12-5.fc17
  78  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2315/rubygem-rack-1.4.0-4.fc17
  41  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4174/glibc-2.15-59.fc17
  40  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4234/stunnel-4.55-1.fc17
  39  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4296/tomcat6-6.0.36-1.fc17
  35  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4501/libxslt-1.1.28-1.fc17
  32  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4581/libuser-0.57.6-2.fc17
  20  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5440/php-geshi-1.0.8.11-3.fc17
  20  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5349/389-ds-base-1.2.11.21-1.fc17
  19  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5546/plexus-archiver-2.3-1.fc17
  14  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5967/xorg-x11-server-1.12.4-7.fc17
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6557/telepathy-idle-0.1.15-1.fc17
   5  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6723/xen-4.1.5-1.fc17
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6727/python-pip-1.3.1-1.fc17
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6720/curl-7.24.0-8.fc17
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7000/phpMyAdmin-3.5.8.1-1.fc17
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6999/kernel-3.8.10-100.fc17
   1  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7144/xmp-3.4.0-11.fc17
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7128/tinc-1.0.21-1.fc17


The following Fedora 17 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 252  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-12509/PackageKit-0.7.6-1.fc17
  81  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2163/policycoreutils-2.1.13-27.3.fc17
  60  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3304/libvpx-1.2.0-1.fc17
  41  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4140/audit-2.2.3-2.fc17
   9  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6278/nss-3.14.3-2.fc17
   6  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6636/kde-settings-4.8-25.fc17
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6720/curl-7.24.0-8.fc17
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6750/xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-1.6.3-3.fc17
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6999/kernel-3.8.10-100.fc17
The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 17 updates-testing

czmq-1.4.1-1.fc17
drupal6-votingapi-2.3-8.fc17
ibus-1.5.2-3.fc17
mksh-45-1.fc17
mozilla-https-everywhere-3.2-1.fc17
pynag-0.4.9-1.fc17
python-cliapp-1.20130424-1.fc17
scim-array-1.0.1-9.fc17
tegrarcm-1.2-1.fc17

Details about builds:



 czmq-1.4.1-1.fc17 (FEDORA-2013-7218)
 High-level C binding for 0MQ (ZeroMQ)

Update Information:

Update to 1.4.1

ChangeLog:

* Wed May  1 2013 Jose Pedro Oliveira  - 1.4.1-1
- Update to 1.4.1.
* Tue Apr 30 2013 Jose Pedro Oliveira  - 1.4.0-1
- Update to 1.4.0.
* Wed Feb 13 2013 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 1.3.2-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass_Rebuild




 drupal6-votingapi-2.3-8.fc17 (FEDORA-2013-7226)
 Voting API module for Drupal6

Update Information:

RPM-only update.  Added "drupal6(votingapi)" virtual provide.

ChangeLog:

* Wed May  1 2013 Shawn Iwinski  - 2.3-8
- Added virtual provide
- Updated description
* Wed Feb 13 2013 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 2.3-7
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Jul 18 2012 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 2.3-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Mass_Rebuild




 ibus-1.5.2-3.fc17 (FEDORA-2013-6220)
 Intelligent Input Bus for Linux OS

Update Information:

IBus 1.5.2 is available now.

Re: [Fedora QA] #344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day

[Fedora QA]

#344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day
---+---
  Reporter:  aalam |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---

Comment (by kparal):

 I contacted aalam several days ago about this, but he didn't respond. You
 really should use a special Test Day images, they are many benefits. But
 it's too late now.

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Linux 3.10 in Rawhide

[Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R]

After the disappointing results with Beta TC1 I decided to play with
64 bit rawhide with the 3.10 kernel.

As usual I used F18 pxeboot to install rawhide.  Gnome had dependency
problems so I installed Xfce.  I discovered that pxeboot install was flakely
running through a wrt54 hub.  That cleared up when I switched to a
direct line to the 16 port gigabit hub in the basement.

Rawhide has now been running for 7 hours on the 2 GB Celeron 430
that was crashing with recent Fedora 19 installs.   The Celeron is
controlling an HP 3586B selective voltmeter under GPIB control.

The 3.10 kernel seems to running fine on the Intel 3770 as well.

The previously reported machine dependencies with Wine remain.

I tried the 32 bit rawhide on the E6550.  NFS was still broken so no 
testing.


Other than the stability of 3.10, the only other difference I noted was in a
gnuradio-companion script.  hw:0,0 in audio source had to be changed to
plughw:0,0 to run.

Will 3.10 be in Fedora 19?


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Re: [Fedora QA] #352: F-19 Fedora test day focusing on new SSSD features and AD integration

[Fedora QA]

#352: F-19 Fedora test day focusing on new SSSD features and AD integration
---+---
  Reporter:  jhrozek   |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---
Changes (by kparal):

 * cc: test@… (added)


Comment:

 Guys, provide me with a list of builds you want to have present on the
 LiveCD, or even some scripts to adjust the default system configuration if
 you need to, and I'll build you a custom Test Day LiveCD for you.

 Or you can do that yourselves, if you want:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Live_Image

 Let us know.

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Re: [Fedora QA] #344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day

[Fedora QA]

#344: Fedora 19 i18n Test Day
---+---
  Reporter:  aalam |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 19
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---

Comment (by tagoh):

 Thanks. yes, Beta TC2 works fine for me too. no concerns about the
 schedule so far. I'm running.

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Re: Revised Beta criteria up

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 08:47 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 04/24/2013 05:23 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>
> >> "but must not do so when running as a live image." <--- makes no sense
> >> and should be removed
> >
> > Er? It makes perfect sense. We don't want to encourage people to run a 
> > system update when booting live; this will just result in RAM 
> > exhaustion. So we disable the update checks in the boot scripts of the 
> > live image kickstarts.
> 
> My concern is with users with live usb and persistent storage I'm pretty 
> sure they would like to get update notifications.

Unfortunately we can't do much about that case (except make
livecd-iso-to-disk reverse the customizations in the kickstart when
writing a persistent storage device, which sounds...eww), and it's the
minority case.

> >> For F20 we should start looking into adding containers ( libvirt lxc )
> >> to the beta criteria along with test cases for it
> >
> > Why do you pick out containers in particular? Is this a particularly 
> > important area of functionality for the future?
> 
> There are several benefits of using containers instead of virtualzation. 
> bare metal performance, less storage space etc. so I would say yes.
> 
> I would think we should be focusing on testing all the connection 
> options in virt-manager and those are xen,qemu/kvm and lxc ( linux 
> containers )

Seems reasonable to test all those, but I gotta admit I haven't seen
much use of LXC in the wild, it doesn't seem like something people are
clamoring for. Any others on the list particularly keen on LXC? Am I
missing the latest hot thing? :)
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Re: f19alpha, hang "booting a command list"

[Adam Williamson]

On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 18:18 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> 
> > It was a kernel regression that affected EFI Macs. It's been fixed.
> 
> … fixed with a newer kernel. For Mac users, some/most/all (?) won't be able 
> to test alpha directly on hardware.

Yeah, we know. It kinda sucks, but we decided "some UEFI Macs" (it
doesn't affect all of them indeed, though quite a lot) wasn't enough
hardware to justify another week's Alpha slip.

The bug was known and discussed as a blocker ahead of release, we didn't
get blindsided.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F19_bugs#uefi-mac-fail
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

[Joerg Lechner]

Hi,
I have also tested F19 LXDE x86_64 Beta:  
Fedora-Live-LXDE-x86_64-19-Beta-TC2-1.iso01-May-2013 19:23  739M
on Samsung X22 Laptop no successful boot, same as LXDE i386 Beta.
Kind Regards Joerg

 

 

 

-Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- 
Von: Andre Robatino 
An: test-announce 
Verschickt: Mi, 1 Mai 2013 10:15 pm
Betreff: [Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!


NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602 . Please
see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and
testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the
fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a
mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it,
just replace "dl" with "download-ib01" in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

Note that due to a bug, the above link currently redirects to 19 Alpha
bugs. Click on "Fedora 19 Beta" at the top of the page to see the Beta bugs.

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


 
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