Re: Guided partitioning is fundamentally broken for Btrfs default use

2013-05-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-05-12 at 16:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On May 12, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Just delete the F18 partitions? Who said you had to resize them?
> > 
> > If the identical behavior occurred with existing ext4 installations,
> and the stated work around was to delete the F18 install, people would
> be giving birth to bovines well beyond the plain text password thread.

Okay, I read your mail through about five more times and finally figured
out what you were trying to say. :) I see the point, and it's about
doing an install alongside an existing btrfs install. Sure. That needs
improving. Remember, all the btrfs stuff is still kind of a work in
progress.
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Re: Beta TC4 karma requests

2013-05-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-05-12 at 16:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 4:18 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth"  
> wrote:
> > 
> > Found Windows Boot Manager on Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
> > Windows Boot Manager is not yet supported by grub-mkconfig.
> > done
> > 
> > Is this supposed to work with grub2-mkconfig also, or only from anaconda?
> 
> It's sorta messy to use GRUB2-EFI as a boot manager. Ideally the
> firmware manufacturer would supply a decent GUI boot manager so you
> can choose the OS, rather than rely on GRUB acting as a boot manager.

That is not really happening in practice, though.

TC4 was definitely intended to add Windows to the grub2 bootloader. See
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F19/FEDORA-2013-7487 ,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873207 .

> The better alternative right now on UEFI computers, is rEFInd or
> gummiboot as the substitute boot manager, which then points to the
> native boot manager for Windows and Linux (on Linux that's EFI STUB
> which is built into the kernel). This totally obviates GRUB2, and I
> understand that I'm not actually answering your question.

...and it's much more manual effort to set up, as things stand.
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Re: Beta TC4 karma requests

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy

On May 12, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:

> There's a debug line you can add to the grub.cfg, and possibly you'll get 
> more information after the error but before the hang.

Helps to read the whole bug first. I see the debug info. I can't reproduce this 
on Apple EFI hardware.

T.C. Hollingsworth  wrote:
> Is this supposed to work with grub2-mkconfig also, or only from anaconda?

anaconda calls grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg on UEFI, and it 
calls grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg on BIOS. I don't know why it goes 
on the ESP on UEFI systems. If grub2-install is invoked, replacing the Fedora 
supplied (and signed) grubx64.efi file, it expects to find grub.cfg at 
/boot/grub2 not on the ESP.

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Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-05-12 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 124  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0416/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc18
  57  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3935/puppet-3.1.1-1.fc18
  51  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4243/stunnel-4.55-1.fc18
  43  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4589/tomcat6-6.0.36-2.fc18
  38  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4823/microcode_ctl-2.0-3.fc18
  31  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5472/php-geshi-1.0.8.11-3.fc18
  22  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18
  11  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7135/xmp-3.5.0-3.fc18
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7120/tinc-1.0.21-1.fc18
   9  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7309/gpsd-3.9-1.fc18
   7  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7426/xen-4.2.2-3.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7531/openvpn-2.3.1-2.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7714/mediawiki-1.19.6-1.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7813/curl-7.27.0-10.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7993/tomcat-7.0.40-1.fc18


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 Age URL
 210  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-16107/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.1.0-1.fc18
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2192/nautilus-3.6.3-5.fc18
  68  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3458/iproute-3.6.0-7.fc18,iptables-1.4.18-1.fc18
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7131/perl-5.16.3-244.fc18,perl-Digest-1.17-244.fc18,perl-threads-1.86-243.fc18,perl-Version-Requirements-0.101022-243.fc18,perl-Test-Simple-0.98-243.fc18,perl-Carp-1.26-243.fc18,perl-ExtUtils-Manifest-1.61-243.fc18,perl-parent-0.225-243.fc18
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7548/gphoto2-2.5.2-1.fc18,libgphoto2-2.5.2-1.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7720/PackageKit-0.8.8-1.fc18,zif-0.3.6-1.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7743/selinux-policy-3.11.1-94.fc18
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7692/ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-4.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7791/network-manager-applet-0.9.8.1-3.git20130430.fc18
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7810/openldap-2.4.35-4.fc18.1
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7822/dmidecode-2.12-3.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7357/abrt-2.1.4-3.fc18,libreport-2.1.4-4.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7716/soprano-2.9.2-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7742/analitza-4.10.3-1.fc18,ark-4.10.3-1.fc18,audiocd-kio-4.10.3-1.fc18,blinken-4.10.3-1.fc18,bomber-4.10.3-1.fc18,bovo-4.10.3-1.fc18,cantor-4.10.3-1.fc18,dragon-4.10.3-1.fc18,filelight-4.10.3-1.fc18,granatier-4.10.3-1.fc18,gwenview-4.10.3-1.fc18,iris-1.0.0-0.14.20110904svn812.fc18,jovie-4.10.3-1.fc18,juk-4.10.3-1.fc18,kaccessible-4.10.3-1.fc18,kactivities-4.10.3-1.fc18,kajongg-4.10.3-1.fc18,kalgebra-4.10.3-1.fc18,kalzium-4.10.3-1.fc18,kamera-4.10.3-1.fc18,kanagram-4.10.3-1.fc18,kapman-4.10.3-1.fc18,kate-4.10.3-1.fc18,katomic-4.10.3-1.fc18,kblackbox-4.10.3-1.fc18,kblocks-4.10.3-1.fc18,kbounce-4.10.3-1.fc18,kbreakout-4.10.3-1.fc18,kbruch-4.10.3-1.fc18,kcalc-4.10.3-1.fc18,kcharselect-4.10.3-1.fc18,kcolorchooser-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdeaccessibility-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdeadmin-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdeartwork-4.10.3-1.fc18,kde-baseapps-4.10.3-1.fc18,kde-base-artwork-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdebindings-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdeedu-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdegames-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdegraphics-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.10.3-1.fc18,kde-l10n-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdelibs-4.10.3-2.fc18,kdemultimedia-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdenetwork-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdepim-4.10.3-2.fc18,kdepimlibs-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdepim-runtime-4.10.3-2.fc18,kdeplasma-addons-4.10.3-1.fc18,kde-print-manager-4.10.3-1.fc18,kde-runtime-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdesdk-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdetoys-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdeutils-4.10.3-1.fc18,kde-wallpapers-4.10.3-1.fc18,kde-workspace-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdf-4.10.3-1.fc18,kdiamond-4.10.3-1.fc18,kfloppy-4.10.3-1.fc18,kfourinline-4.10.3-1.fc18,kgamma-4.10.3-1.fc18,kgeography-4.10.3-1.fc18,kgoldrunner-4.10.3-1.fc18,kgpg-4.10.3-1.fc18,khangman-4.10.3-1.fc18,kig-4.10.3-1.fc18,kigo-4.10.3-1.fc18,killbots-4.10.3-1.fc18,kimono-4.10.3-1.

Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2013-05-12 Thread updates
The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 311  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10269/revelation-0.4.14-1.fc17
 123  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0455/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc17
  52  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4174/glibc-2.15-59.fc17
  51  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4234/stunnel-4.55-1.fc17
  50  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4296/tomcat6-6.0.36-1.fc17
  46  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4501/libxslt-1.1.28-1.fc17
  43  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4581/libuser-0.57.6-2.fc17
  31  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5440/php-geshi-1.0.8.11-3.fc17
  31  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5349/389-ds-base-1.2.11.21-1.fc17
  24  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-5967/xorg-x11-server-1.12.4-7.fc17
  11  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7144/xmp-3.4.0-11.fc17
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7128/tinc-1.0.21-1.fc17
   9  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7305/gpsd-3.9-1.fc17
   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7361/libtiff-3.9.7-2.fc17
   7  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7432/xen-4.1.5-2.fc17
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7552/openvpn-2.3.1-2.fc17
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7701/mediawiki-1.19.6-1.fc17
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7797/curl-7.24.0-9.fc17
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7999/tomcat-7.0.40-1.fc17


The following Fedora 17 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 263  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-12509/PackageKit-0.7.6-1.fc17
  92  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2163/policycoreutils-2.1.13-27.3.fc17
  71  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3304/libvpx-1.2.0-1.fc17
  52  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4140/audit-2.2.3-2.fc17
   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7362/abrt-2.1.4-1.fc17,libreport-2.1.4-1.fc17
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   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7361/libtiff-3.9.7-2.fc17
   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7291/dosfstools-3.0.16-3.fc17
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   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7797/curl-7.24.0-9.fc17
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7689/soprano-2.9.2-1.fc17
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-7695/analitza-4.10.3-1.fc17,ark-4.10.3-1.fc17,audiocd-kio-4.10.3-1.fc17,blinken-4.10.3-1.fc17,bomber-4.10.3-1.fc17,bovo-4.10.3-1.fc17,cantor-4.10.3-1.fc17,dragon-4.10.3-1.fc17,filelight-4.10.3-1.fc17,granatier-4.10.3-1.fc17,gwenview-4.10.3-1.fc17,iris-1.0.0-0.14.20110904svn812.fc17,jovie-4.10.3-1.fc17,juk-4.10.3-1.fc17,kaccessible-4.10.3-1.fc17,kactivities-4.10.3-1.fc17,kajongg-4.10.3-1.fc17,kalgebra-4.10.3-1.fc17,kalzium-4.10.3-1.fc17,kamera-4.10.3-1.fc17,kanagram-4.10.3-1.fc17,kapman-4.10.3-1.fc17,kate-4.10.3-1.fc17,katomic-4.10.3-1.fc17,kblackbox-4.10.3-1.fc17,kblocks-4.10.3-1.fc17,kbounce-4.10.3-1.fc17,kbreakout-4.10.3-1.fc17,kbruch-4.10.3-1.fc17,kcalc-4.10.3-1.fc17,kcharselect-4.10.3-1.fc17,kcolorchooser-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdeaccessibility-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdeadmin-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdeartwork-4.10.3-1.fc17,kde-baseapps-4.10.3-1.fc17,kde-base-artwork-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdebindings-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdeedu-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdegames-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdegraphics-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.10.3-1.fc17,kde-l10n-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdelibs-4.10.3-2.fc17,kdemultimedia-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdenetwork-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdepim-4.10.3-2.fc17,kdepimlibs-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdepim-runtime-4.10.3-2.fc17,kdeplasma-addons-4.10.3-1.fc17,kde-print-manager-4.10.3-1.fc17,kde-runtime-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdesdk-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdetoys-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdeutils-4.10.3-1.fc17,kde-wallpapers-4.10.3-1.fc17,kde-workspace-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdf-4.10.3-1.fc17,kdiamond-4.10.3-1.fc17,kfloppy-4.10.3-1.fc17,kfourinline-4.10.3-1.fc17,kgamma-4.10.3-1.fc17,kgeography-4.10.3-1.fc17,kgoldrunner-4.10.3-1.fc17,kgpg-4.10.3-1.fc17,khangman-4.10.3-1.fc17,kig-4.10.3-1.fc17,kigo-4.10.3-1.fc17,killbots-4.10.3-1.fc17,kimono-4.10.3-1.fc17,kiriki-4.10.3-1.fc17,kiten-4.10.3-1.fc17,kjumpingcube-4.10.3-1.fc17,klettres-4.10.3-1.fc17,klickety-4.10.3-1.fc17,klines-4.10.3-1.fc17,kmag-4.10.3-1.fc17,kmahjongg-4.10.3-1.fc17,kmines-4.10.3-1.fc17,kmix-4.10.3-1.fc17,kmousetool-4.10.3-1.fc17,kmouth-4.10.3-1.fc17,kmplot-4.10.3-1.fc17,knavalbattle-4.10.3-1.fc17,knetwalk-4.10.3-1.fc17,kolf-4.10.3-1.fc17,kollision-4.10.3-1.fc17,kolourpaint-4.10.3-1.fc17,konquest-4.10.3-1.fc17,konsole-

Re: Beta TC4 karma requests

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy

On May 12, 2013, at 4:40 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth  
wrote:
> 
> I already use gummiboot, since GRUB2 can't boot Fedora on my system.
> [1]  My main reason for trying this out was to see if GRUB2 could boot
> Windows, as that might be an interesting datapoint to add to that bug.

Not really, it's totally unrelated as the Windows portion is apparently a 
limitation of the grub-mkconfig script, so I'd say it needs to be posted to one 
of the grub lists, either help or devel. Probably help. Maybe support is in 
upstream but not in the Fedora package.

Is this Windows 8?

> 
> -T.C.
> 
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=951761

I think that bug and screen shot need to go upstream for sure. I'd file it in 
the savannha.gnu.org bug reporter, and then cite the bug in help or devel grub 
lists.

What's weird about this is that you're getting a boot failure after successful 
installation, which necessarily uses GRUB2 to boot UEFI hardware, and it's the 
same GRUB2 used to boot the installation.

There's a debug line you can add to the grub.cfg, and possibly you'll get more 
information after the error but before the hang.



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Re: Beta TC4 karma requests

2013-05-12 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> It's sorta messy to use GRUB2-EFI as a boot manager. Ideally the firmware 
> manufacturer would supply a decent GUI boot manager so you can choose the OS, 
> rather than rely on GRUB acting as a boot manager.
>
> The better alternative right now on UEFI computers, is rEFInd or gummiboot as 
> the substitute boot manager, which then points to the native boot manager for 
> Windows and Linux (on Linux that's EFI STUB which is built into the kernel). 
> This totally obviates GRUB2, and I understand that I'm not actually answering 
> your question.

I already use gummiboot, since GRUB2 can't boot Fedora on my system.
[1]  My main reason for trying this out was to see if GRUB2 could boot
Windows, as that might be an interesting datapoint to add to that bug.

-T.C.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=951761
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Re: Beta TC4 karma requests

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy

On May 12, 2013, at 4:18 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth"  
wrote:
> 
> Found Windows Boot Manager on Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
> Windows Boot Manager is not yet supported by grub-mkconfig.
> done
> 
> Is this supposed to work with grub2-mkconfig also, or only from anaconda?

It's sorta messy to use GRUB2-EFI as a boot manager. Ideally the firmware 
manufacturer would supply a decent GUI boot manager so you can choose the OS, 
rather than rely on GRUB acting as a boot manager.

The better alternative right now on UEFI computers, is rEFInd or gummiboot as 
the substitute boot manager, which then points to the native boot manager for 
Windows and Linux (on Linux that's EFI STUB which is built into the kernel). 
This totally obviates GRUB2, and I understand that I'm not actually answering 
your question.


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Re: Guided partitioning is fundamentally broken for Btrfs default use

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy

On May 12, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:

> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
>> 
>> Just delete the F18 partitions? Who said you had to resize them?
> 
> If the identical behavior occurred with existing ext4 installations, and the 
> stated work around was to delete the F18 install, people would be giving 
> birth to bovines well beyond the plain text password thread.

Aside from the ensuing "F19 can't be installed along side F18 on Btrfs unless 
you using Manual partitioning" problem, due to how reasonably large Btrfs 
volumes can be, it's more like "you can't install F19 unless you obliterate 
your 40TB btrfs raid10 array, even though you have 20TB free space on that 
volume".

What the behavior does is relegate everyone, eventually, to using Manual 
partitioning in order to add a new subvolume to do side by side installs. And 
I'll argue that behavior makes Guided partitioning totally incompatible with 
any practical usage of Btrfs as a default file system.



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Re: Beta TC4 karma requests

2013-05-12 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> If anyone has a UEFI install of Windows and can test installing F19 Beta
> TC4 alongside it, please do - the os-prober update should mean that the
> Windows install will now be present in Fedora's grub menu (before it was
> not).

I haven't got a chance to try installing TC4, but this doesn't seem to
work as intended on a fully up-to-date existing F19 install:

% rpm -q grub2 os-prober
grub2-2.00-16.fc19.x86_64
os-prober-1.58-1.fc19.x86_64

# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.1-301.fc19.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.9.1-301.fc19.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.0-301.fc19.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.9.0-301.fc19.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.0-0.rc8.git0.2.fc19.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.9.0-0.rc8.git0.2.fc19.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-9388a5eb453d59f4fd98567b37061720
Found initrd image:
/boot/initramfs-0-rescue-9388a5eb453d59f4fd98567b37061720.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.1-301.fc19.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.9.1-301.fc19.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.0-301.fc19.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.9.0-301.fc19.x86_64.img
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9.0-0.rc8.git0.2.fc19.x86_64
Found initrd image: /boot/initramfs-3.9.0-0.rc8.git0.2.fc19.x86_64.img
Found Windows Boot Manager on Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
Windows Boot Manager is not yet supported by grub-mkconfig.
done

Is this supposed to work with grub2-mkconfig also, or only from anaconda?

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Re: Guided partitioning is fundamentally broken for Btrfs default use

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy

On May 12, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> 
> Just delete the F18 partitions? Who said you had to resize them?

If the identical behavior occurred with existing ext4 installations, and the 
stated work around was to delete the F18 install, people would be giving birth 
to bovines well beyond the plain text password thread.



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Re: Guided partitioning is fundamentally broken for Btrfs default use

2013-05-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-05-12 at 14:08 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Originally I was thinking the installer's assertion that Btrfs is not
> resizable just needed a verbiage change to "Resize unsupported"
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962143
> 
> 
> But there's a consequence that makes this a show stopper for Btrfs
> becoming the eventual default file system.
> 
> 
> Actual behavior:
> 
> 
> 1. F18, use Guided Partitioning, partition scheme set to Btrfs, on a
> blank drive.
> 2. F19, use Guided Partitioning = can't, there isn't enough space and
> the installer won't resize Btrfs volumes. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Expected behavior:
> 
> 
> Either Guided partitioning should enable the shrinking of the Btrfs
> file system to make room for a new 500MB ext4 /boot. 
> 
> 
> OR it needs to support /boot on Btrfs subvolumes. 
> 
> 
> OR it needs to support reusing an existing /boot. 
> 
> 
> Currently none of these are supported in Guided partitioning.
> 
> 
> Work around:

Just delete the F18 partitions? Who said you had to resize them?

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Guided partitioning is fundamentally broken for Btrfs default use

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy
Originally I was thinking the installer's assertion that Btrfs is not resizable 
just needed a verbiage change to "Resize unsupported"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962143

But there's a consequence that makes this a show stopper for Btrfs becoming the 
eventual default file system.

Actual behavior:

1. F18, use Guided Partitioning, partition scheme set to Btrfs, on a blank 
drive.
2. F19, use Guided Partitioning = can't, there isn't enough space and the 
installer won't resize Btrfs volumes. 


Expected behavior:

Either Guided partitioning should enable the shrinking of the Btrfs file system 
to make room for a new 500MB ext4 /boot. 

OR it needs to support /boot on Btrfs subvolumes. 

OR it needs to support reusing an existing /boot. 

Currently none of these are supported in Guided partitioning.

Work around:
Use Manual partitioning, and place /boot on btrfs as a subvolume. This also 
triggers this grubby bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198.


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Btrfs label set incorrectly

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959727

In the case of creating two btrfs volumes, one of them consistently has a 
default label "fedora" rather than the user specified name. There isn't a 
release criteria that I'm finding which covers this case, but considering the 
UI lets me specify a label, indicates in the summary that it will create a 
volume with that label, and yet doesn't actually do that, I think it should be 
beta or final release blocking because it sets up this volume for being 
mistaken for something else, and increases the risk of data loss during a 
future reinstall.

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Re: Telnet server broken in TC4

2013-05-12 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

On 05/12/2013 09:24 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:

On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 14:13 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:


I gave the systemctl command and rebooted.
Here is the result.  I get the same result on
the target system with "telnet localhost".


Can't you use ssh instead anyway since it's on by default on all
installations now?  I never have to configure when I update/install my
server, it just works.



As others have pointed out, people out there use a lot
of software that supports telnet but not ssh.

It looks like adding ssh to a program is quite non trivial.
In most cases the source code isn't available anyway.

Since the telnet server is no longer part of the default
Fedora, is there any reason other than hubris why
installing telnet-server should not result in a functioning
telnet server?

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Re: Telnet server broken in TC4

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 14:13 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:

> I gave the systemctl command and rebooted.
> Here is the result.  I get the same result on
> the target system with "telnet localhost".
> 

Can't you use ssh instead anyway since it's on by default on all
installations now?  I never have to configure when I update/install my
server, it just works.


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F-19 Branched report: 20130512 changes

2013-05-12 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sun May 12 09:15:02 UTC 2013

Broken deps for x86_64
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[byzanz]
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[deltacloud-core]
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[dragonegg]
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[freeipa]
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0:10.0.1
freeipa-server-strict-3.2.0-0.3.beta1.fc19.x86_64 requires krb5-server 
= 0:1.11.2-1
freeipa-server-strict-3.2.0-0.3.beta1.fc19.x86_64 requires 389-ds-base 
= 0:1.3.0.5
[gooddata-cl]
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[kawa]
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[libkolab]
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php-kolab-0.4.1-3.fc19.x86_64 requires php(api) = 0:20100412-x86-64
[libvirt-qmf]
libvirt-qmf-0.3.0-6.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libmcommon_qmf.so.1.0.0()(64bit)
libvirt-qmf-0.3.0-6.fc19.x86_64 requires libmcommon.so.1.0.0()(64bit)
[matreshka]
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matreshka-amf-0.3.0-3.fc19.x86_64 requires libgnat-4.7.so()(64bit)
matreshka-amf-mofext-0.3.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libgnat-4.7.so
matreshka-amf-mofext-0.3.0-3.fc19.x86_64 requires 
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matreshka-amf-ocl-0.3.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libgnat-4.7.so
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matreshka-fastcgi-0.3.0-3.fc19.i686 requires libgnat-4.7.so
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matreshka-sql-postgresql-0.3.0-3.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libgnat-4.7.so()(64bit)
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matreshka-sql-sqlite-0.3.0-3.fc19.x86_64 requires 
libgnat-4.7.so()(64bit)
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[ooo2gd]
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[openbox]
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gnome-panel-control-3.5.0-11.20121001git782b28.fc19.x86_64 requires 
gnome-panel
[ovirt-engine]
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classpathx-mail
[perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene]
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perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq)
[perl-Bio-SamTools]
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perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite)
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq)
[python-AppTools]
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[python-TraitsBackendQt]
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[python-flask-admin]
python-flask-admin-1.0.5-2.fc19.noarch requires python-flask-mongonegine
[scala]
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[sigrok-cli]
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[byzanz]
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[dragonegg]
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Anyone else seeing this "systemd" deadlock while booting rawhide kernels (3.10.0-0.rc0.git26.1)

2013-05-12 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
Heya,

That's what I see while I boot today's Rawhide Kernel.

If you need more info, just ping me here.

==
...
[176092.303585]   lock(&dev->device_lock);
[176092.307947]
[176092.307947]  *** DEADLOCK ***
[176092.307947]
[176092.314943] 2 locks held by systemd/1:
[176092.319283]  #0:  (misc_mtx){+.+.+.}, at: [] 
misc_open+0x28/0x1d0
[176092.328104]  #1:  (&wdd->lock){+.+...}, at: [] 
watchdog_start+0x22/0x80
[176092.337532]
[176092.337532] stack backtrace:
[176092.342661] CPU: 1 PID: 1 Comm: systemd Not tainted 
3.10.0-0.rc0.git23.1.fc20.x86_64 #1
[176092.351823] Hardware name: Intel Corporation Shark Bay Client 
platform/Flathead Creek
Crb, BIOS HSWLPTU1.86C.0109.R03.1301282055 01/28/2013
[176092.366101]  8257d070 880241b1b9c0 81719128 
880241b1ba00
[176092.374617]  81714d75 880241b1ba50 880241b80960 
880241b8
[176092.383130]  0002 0002 880241b80960 
880241b1bac0
[176092.391647] Call Trace:
[176092.394514]  [] dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
2m  OK  ] Re[176092.400430]  [] print_circular_bug+0x201/0x210
[176092.408898]  [] __lock_acquire+0x17c4/0x1b30
ached target Shu[176092.415602]  [] ? 
_raw_spin_unlock_irq+0x2c/0x50
[176092.424276]  [] lock_acquire+0xa2/0x1f0
tdown.
[176092.430489]  [] ? mei_wd_ops_start+0x2d/0xf0
[176092.438070]  [] mutex_lock_nested+0x80/0x400
[176092.444772]  [] ? mei_wd_ops_start+0x2d/0xf0
[176092.451471]  [] ? mei_wd_ops_start+0x2d/0xf0
[176092.458172]  [] ? watchdog_start+0x22/0x80
[176092.464678]  [] ? watchdog_start+0x22/0x80
[176092.471182]  [] mei_wd_ops_start+0x2d/0xf0
[176092.477687]  [] watchdog_start+0x5d/0x80
[176092.483994]  [] watchdog_open+0x88/0xf0
[176092.490214]  [] misc_open+0xb7/0x1d0
[176092.496128]  [] chrdev_open+0x92/0x1d0
[176092.502240]  [] do_dentry_open+0x24b/0x300
[176092.508745]  [] ? security_inode_permission+0x1c/0x30
[176092.516330]  [] ? cdev_put+0x30/0x30
[176092.522243]  [] finish_open+0x40/0x50
[176092.528256]  [] do_last+0x4d9/0xe40
[176092.534071]  [] path_openat+0xb3/0x530
[176092.540193]  [] ? local_clock+0x5f/0x70
[176092.546403]  [] ? native_sched_clock+0x15/0x80
[176092.553301]  [] ? trace_hardirqs_off+0xd/0x10
[176092.560099]  [] do_filp_open+0x38/0x80
[176092.566211]  [] ? _raw_spin_unlock+0x27/0x40
[176092.572913]  [] ? __alloc_fd+0xaf/0x200
[176092.579123]  [] do_sys_open+0xe9/0x1c0
[176092.585235]  [] SyS_open+0x1e/0x20
[176092.590953]  [] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
Sending SIGTERM to remaining processes...
[176092.622745] systemd-journald[338]: Received SIGTERM
Sending SIGKILL to remaining processes...
Hardware watchdog 'INTCAMT', version 0
Unmounting file systems.
Unmounting /sys/kernel/config.
Unmounting /dev/mqueue.
Unmounting /dev/hugepages.
Unmounting /sys/kernel/debug.
[176094.363845] EXT4-fs (dm-1): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
[176094.548631] EXT4-fs (dm-1): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
[176094.554450] EXT4-fs (dm-1): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
All filesystems unmounted.
Deactivating swaps.
All swaps deactivated.
Detaching loop devices.
All loop devices detached.
Detaching DM devices.
Detaching DM 253:2.
Detaching DM 253:0.
Not all DM devices detached, 1 left.
Detaching DM devices.
Not all DM devices detached, 1 left.
Cannot finalize remaining file systems and devices, giving up.
Storage is finalized.
Successfully changed into root pivot.
Returning to initrd...
[176094.675812] dracut Warning: Killing all remaining processes
...
==

/kashyap
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rawhide report: 20130512 changes

2013-05-12 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun May 12 08:15:02 UTC 2013

Broken deps for x86_64
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[dragonegg]
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[openbox]
gdm-control-3.5.0-11.20121001git782b28.fc19.x86_64 requires gnome-panel
gnome-panel-control-3.5.0-11.20121001git782b28.fc19.x86_64 requires 
gnome-panel
[ovirt-engine]
ovirt-engine-notification-service-3.1.0-1.fc19.noarch requires 
classpathx-mail
[perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene]
perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene-1.091-17.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(Bio::Index::AbstractSeq)
[perl-Bio-SamTools]
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
perl(Bio::SeqFeature::Lite)
perl-Bio-SamTools-1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(Bio::PrimarySeq)
[python-TraitsBackendQt]
python-TraitsBackendQt-3.5.0-5.fc19.noarch requires python-TraitsGUI
[python-flask-admin]
python-flask-admin-1.0.5-3.fc20.noarch requires python-wtf-peewee
[qpid-cpp]
qpid-cpp-server-xml-0.20-6.fc20.x86_64 requires libxqilla.so.5()(64bit)
[rubygem-fog]
rubygem-fog-1.7.0-3.fc20.noarch requires rubygem(net-scp) < 0:1.1
[scala]
scala-2.9.2-2.fc19.noarch requires osgi(org.scala-ide.scala.library)
[spacewalk-web]
spacewalk-dobby-1.9.22-2.fc19.noarch requires perl(Spacewalk::Setup)
[syncevolution]
1:syncevolution-libs-1.3.99.3-1.fc20.i686 requires 
libedata-book-1.2.so.17
1:syncevolution-libs-1.3.99.3-1.fc20.x86_64 requires 
libedata-book-1.2.so.17()(64bit)
[zarafa]
php-mapi-7.0.13-1.fc19.x86_64 requires php(zend-abi) = 0:20100525-x86-64
php-mapi-7.0.13-1.fc19.x86_64 requires php(api) = 0:20100412-x86-64



Broken deps for i386
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[claws-mail-plugins]
claws-mail-plugins-geolocation-3.9.0-7.fc20.i686 requires 
claws-mail(plugin-api)(x86-32) = 0:3.9.0.122
[dragonegg]
dragonegg-3.1-19.fc19.i686 requires gcc = 0:4.7.2-9.fc19
[ekiga]
ekiga-4.0.1-1.fc19.i686 requires libedata-book-1.2.so.17
[gcc-python-plugin]
gcc-python2-debug-plugin-0.12-2.fc20.i686 requires gcc = 0:4.8.0-4.fc20
gcc-python2-plugin-0.12-2.fc20.i686 requires gcc = 0:4.8.0-4.fc20
gcc-python3-debug-plugin-0.12-2.fc20.i686 requires gcc = 0:4.8.0-4.fc20
gcc-python3-plugin-0.12-2.fc20.i686 requires gcc = 0:4.8.0-4.fc20
[glabels]
glabels-3.0.1-7.fc20.i686 requires libedata-book-1.2.so.17
[gooddata-cl]
gooddata-cl-1.2.56-2.fc19.noarch requires gdata-java
[kawa]
1:kawa-1.11-5.fc19.i686 requires servlet25
[lancet]
lancet-1.0.1-6.fc19.noarch requires ant-nodeps >= 0:1.7.1
[libguestfs]
1:libguestfs-1.21.38-1.fc20.