Re: Fedora-Live-LXDE-i686-19-TC5-1.iso 18-Jun-2013 01:55 658M

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 04:14 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
 Hi,
 is it possible. that there is an error in
 Fedora-Live-LXDE-i686-19-TC5-1.iso 18-Jun-2013 01:55 658M ? I have
 downloaded this build twice. The first time tried to burn with Brasero
 twice, second time to burn once. Always the checksum test stopped to
 continue after having completed about 60%.
 My error? Build error?

Did you check the sha256sum?

I've tested the x86_64 LXDE live and it booted and installed fine in a
VM for me, but not the i686 yet.
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screengrabber istanbul in F19

2013-06-18 Thread Joachim Backes

Hi all testers,

I'm running the screen capture program istanbul in F19/gnome3, but I 
don't see any istanbul icon on the screen, so I can't control it.


On the other hand, if using mate or gnome classical, the istanbul icons 
appear in the notification area so I can manage the istanbul program.


What I'm doing wrong?

Kind regards
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Re: screengrabber istanbul in F19

2013-06-18 Thread Ryan Lerch

On Tue 18 Jun 2013 05:48:50 AM EDT, Joachim Backes wrote:

Hi all testers,

I'm running the screen capture program istanbul in F19/gnome3, but I
don't see any istanbul icon on the screen, so I can't control it.

On the other hand, if using mate or gnome classical, the istanbul
icons appear in the notification area so I can manage the istanbul
program.

What I'm doing wrong?

Kind regards


Not sure if this is your issue, but in GNOME 3 all the tray icons are 
placed in the message tray at the bottom on the screen. It can be 
activated by moving the mouse to the bottom edge of the screen.


The instanbul applet should be in there.

regards,
ryanlerch


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Re: screengrabber istanbul in F19

2013-06-18 Thread Joachim Backes

On 06/18/2013 02:30 PM, Ryan Lerch wrote:

On Tue 18 Jun 2013 05:48:50 AM EDT, Joachim Backes wrote:

Hi all testers,

I'm running the screen capture program istanbul in F19/gnome3, but I
don't see any istanbul icon on the screen, so I can't control it.

On the other hand, if using mate or gnome classical, the istanbul
icons appear in the notification area so I can manage the istanbul
program.

What I'm doing wrong?

Kind regards


Not sure if this is your issue, but in GNOME 3 all the tray icons are
placed in the message tray at the bottom on the screen. It can be
activated by moving the mouse to the bottom edge of the screen.

The instanbul applet should be in there.

regards,
ryanlerch




Hi ryanlerch,

I know that the applet should appear at the location you mentioned, but 
nothing appears at the screen's buttom, nor at the screen's button edges 
(if moving the mouse pointer to such a location)! Other notifications 
(for received thunderbird emails for example) appear definitely in the 
notification area.


Kind regards

Joachim Backes

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2013-06-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Jun 18 09:15:03 UTC 2013

Compose finished at Tue Jun 18 12:49:06 UTC 2013

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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 While anaconda is running an installation, gnome-shell is hogging a
 whole core on its own, and X is using about 25% of the other core. Is
 this expected? This is on baremetal, with a nouveau supported GPU:
 NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] [10de:0407]. I wouldn't
 expect gnome-shell to need to fall back to a rendering method that'd
 be this CPU intensive.

I assume you mean the live installer by this, as the normal anaconda
doesn't run gnome-shell at all.  A compositor has some of the same
properties as the X server itself: it _has_ to respond when an app draws
something, otherwise the bits don't show up on the screen.  So it's
possible that what you're seeing there is anaconda updating the screen
often (more than 60fps, at least), and X and the shell struggling to
keep up.

But this is what profilers are for.

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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Kamil Paral
 While anaconda is running an installation, gnome-shell is hogging a whole
 core on its own, and X is using about 25% of the other core. Is this
 expected? This is on baremetal, with a nouveau supported GPU: NVIDIA
 Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] [10de:0407]. I wouldn't expect
 gnome-shell to need to fall back to a rendering method that'd be this CPU
 intensive.

If I try to do this in KVM (2x CPU), I see gnome-shell taking 5%, X not even 
displayed in top, and all CPU power going to rsync (2x 10%) and loop3 (80%).

I guess the high X+gnome-shell usage is caused by the nouveau driver.
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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

On 06/18/2013 06:25 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:

On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:

While anaconda is running an installation, gnome-shell is hogging a
whole core on its own, and X is using about 25% of the other core. Is
this expected? This is on baremetal, with a nouveau supported GPU:
NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] [10de:0407]. I wouldn't
expect gnome-shell to need to fall back to a rendering method that'd
be this CPU intensive.

I assume you mean the live installer by this, as the normal anaconda
doesn't run gnome-shell at all.  A compositor has some of the same
properties as the X server itself: it _has_ to respond when an app draws
something, otherwise the bits don't show up on the screen.  So it's
possible that what you're seeing there is anaconda updating the screen
often (more than 60fps, at least), and X and the shell struggling to
keep up.

But this is what profilers are for.

- ajax


I did a pxeboot install of today's rsync using the anaconda from TC5.
I ran top(1) during the install and did not notice any unusual CPU 
utilization.

This is on a 32 GB 3770K.

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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread John Reiser
 If I try to do this in KVM (2x CPU), I see gnome-shell taking 5%, X not even 
 displayed in top, and all CPU power going to rsync (2x 10%) and loop3 (80%).

Please tell us how much virtual RAM was allocated to the KVM instance.
loop3 at 80% CPU for long periods is page thrashing: re-decompressing
parts of the .exe over and over because the resulting pages
are discarded too quickly.

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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread John Reiser
 I did a pxeboot install of today's rsync using the anaconda from TC5.
 I ran top(1) during the install and did not notice any unusual CPU 
 utilization.
 This is on a 32 GB 3770K.

Which video graphics card, and which driver?

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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 While anaconda is running an installation, gnome-shell is hogging a
 whole core on its own, and X is using about 25% of the other core. Is
 this expected? This is on baremetal, with a nouveau supported GPU:
 NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] [10de:0407]. I wouldn't
 expect gnome-shell to need to fall back to a rendering method that'd
 be this CPU intensive.
 
 I assume you mean the live installer by this,

Yes this is occurring with Fedora-Live-Desktop-x86_64-19-TC3-1.iso

  So it's
 possible that what you're seeing there is anaconda updating the screen
 often (more than 60fps, at least), and X and the shell struggling to
 keep up.

With the system installed, dragging e.g. a Firefox window, around the screen 
approximates the same behavior. gnome-shell is pegged. This doesn't seem right.


 But this is what profilers are for.

OK?


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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote:

 If I try to do this in KVM (2x CPU), I see gnome-shell taking 5%, X not even 
 displayed in top, and all CPU power going to rsync (2x 10%) and loop3 (80%).
 
 Please tell us how much virtual RAM was allocated to the KVM instance.
 loop3 at 80% CPU for long periods is page thrashing: re-decompressing
 parts of the .exe over and over because the resulting pages
 are discarded too quickly.

I have the same issue with loop3 on baremetal, it's variable between 45-80% 
CPU. 4GB RAM on that computer.

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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 06/18/2013 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
 With the system installed, dragging e.g. a Firefox window, around the screen 
 approximates the same behavior. gnome-shell is pegged. This doesn't seem 
 right.

The system I am typing from has the NVIDIA binary driver and experiences
the same pegged behavior. Gnome Shell has always worked this way.

  But this is what profilers are for.
 OK?

You are free to profile gnome-shell and see exactly why so much CPU is
used to move a window around. Maybe you could provide a patch to Gnome
to reduce it.

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failure to remove old efi boot entry

2013-06-18 Thread Chris Murphy

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975537


I'm not understanding what's happening in this bug. Comment 15 is the result of 
efibootmgr while booted from a USB stick made via dd of 
Fedora-Live-Desktop-x86_64-19-TC5-1.iso.

The Boot entry is valid, that's a successful, working Fedora 19 
installation with /boot on partition 4. But it's not clear to me why anaconda 
reports:

15:31:42,471 INFO program: Running... efibootmgr -b  -B
15:31:42,516 DEBUG program: Return code: 1

When I do it manually *before* anaconda has a chance to, it works. But for some 
reason the same command issued by anaconda (when the entry exists), returns a 
code of 1.

Weird.


Chris Murphy

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Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 15:02 -0500, John Morris wrote:
 On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 12:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 
  No, that's not the point at all. The point is that there is only so much
  space for text in the UI. Have you tried running anaconda in Japanese or
  German at 800x600? When there's too much text on a spoke (those are both
  languages which use a lot of characters to say the same thing compared
  to English), the display of the spoke becomes entirely corrupted.
 
 So lemme recap what you have been saying in this and other posts The
 current design breaks both internationalization and accessability and
 you recognize that reality.  Fixing these problems isn't an option
 though because well because.
 
 Tearing Anaconda apart and rebuilding it from the ground up was an
 imperative, complaints be damned, because the Anaconda devs had a
 hankering to do that; they had a fever and the only cure was some more
 cowbell.  But making it useable while they already had it tore apart?
 Nobody was interested in that.
 
 Or am I just being a Negative Nancy?
 
 I don't think so.  Specifying UI in pixels is an outdated 20th Century
 concept that was justified in a day of 16bit computers with pitiful
 resources and bitmapped fonts.  We have surrendered to the notion of
 wasting cycles on darned near everything else, why not blow some on
 something actually useful?  Yet Anaconda has went through more than one
 major rework/rewrite/retool since the turn of the Century and the entry
 into the era of computing 'plenty' and is still bound to an 800x600 SVGA
 display that hasn't even been seen on the surplus market in a decade.
 Ok, it does help install on a netbook, but it really is time to make it
 variable and give every install screen a vertical scrollbar to eliminate
 the possibility of dialogs that won't fit.

What I'm saying is that there isn't a quick fix to this, which is what
Felix always suggests; his suggestions always boil down to make the
fonts bigger! now!

anaconda's a complex application operating under a lot of different
constraints: work at low resolutions (people ALWAYS bitch and moan when
it doesn't, all those millions of Eee 701s that were sold are still out
there somewhere and apparently all their owners want to run Fedora),
provide as much information as possible to the user, look good, keep the
code simple so it can be maintained, provide lots of complex
functionality.

Given all of that, it's almost never the case that there's a 'quick fix'
for anything when it comes to the UI. If we're going to make anaconda
more accessible we need to take an overview of how to do it without
compromising its other design goals, not just start throwing out quick
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Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:

 On 06/18/2013 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
 With the system installed, dragging e.g. a Firefox window, around the screen 
 approximates the same behavior. gnome-shell is pegged. This doesn't seem 
 right.
 
 The system I am typing from has the NVIDIA binary driver and experiences
 the same pegged behavior. Gnome Shell has always worked this way.

Not for me. On a 2011 Macbook Pro I don't get either the anaconda or Firefox 
induced gnome-shell pegging behavior. It uses at most 7% CPU on that system, 
which has both MD Radeon HD 6750M and Intel HD Graphics 3000. I'm not sure 
which one is being used.

On the older hardware with NVIDIA card, OS X's compositor doesn't have this 
issue with the NVIDIA produced native driver. During gnome 3's life, testing on 
this hardware, I intermittantly get messages of Gnome starting in fall back 
mode, even though it shouldn't have to do that on this hardware. So I wonder if 
effectively I'm getting whatever the new fallback mode CPU based compositor is.


 But this is what profilers are for.
 OK?
 
 You are free to profile gnome-shell and see exactly why so much CPU is
 used to move a window around. Maybe you could provide a patch to Gnome
 to reduce it.

Maybe when I have the interest level and spare time to gain the prerequisite of 
knowing how to write code, and then specifically for gnome, yes maybe I can 
provide a patch … by which time I won't care much at all about the hardware in 
question.

Chris Murphy

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F-19 Branched report: 20130618 changes

2013-06-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Jun 18 17:12:36 UTC 2013

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Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-18 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-06-18 13:51 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 15:02 -0500, John Morris wrote:



though because well because.



What I'm saying is that there isn't a quick fix to this, which is what
Felix always suggests; his suggestions always boil down to make the
fonts bigger! now!


The urgency is because it's inanely long overdue. Whenever it was that F17 
was forked from Rawhide it had long been known current device densities were 
wider in range, averaging higher than the past, and accelerating upward 
further. The reason they aren't already averaging higher than they are is 
lack of software capability holding back their utility, causing manufacturer 
caution to hold back tooling investment unlikely to be recouped through sales.


I'm not saying make text bigger unconditionally. I'm saying text needs to be 
sized in a reasonable (aka fully rational) relationship to both device 
density and user characteristics, not stuffing gray 9px or 10px text down the 
throats of all regardless of their hardware or visual acuity.


I'm also saying that those who need text bigger than average need an 
accessible way to have it.


Everyone not legally blind ought to be able to use a normally equipped 
generic PC if he wants or needs to. The stumbling blocks to a state that it 
were so are a shameful paradox, considering the power of computers and 
related technology. The way it is now is like it was for coloreds before 
Martin Luther King's legacy, unable to go places and do things because of the 
misfortune of being born with the wrong skin color, only now it's the 
misfortune of eyesight not as good as naive and/or inconsiderate software 
creators.


The only solace for today's visually challenged is that today's young 
software creators lucky enough to reach old age and accumulate the wisdom 
that should accompany it will in fact survive to old age, where likely good 
eyesight will exist only in what's left of their cranial memories.

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Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 18:26 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

 I'm not saying make text bigger unconditionally. I'm saying text needs to be 
 sized in a reasonable (aka fully rational) relationship to both device 
 density and user characteristics, not stuffing gray 9px or 10px text down the 
 throats of all regardless of their hardware or visual acuity.

And the other point I'm making is that that's a) not anaconda's problem
to solve and b) not an easy problem for *anyone* to solve. You can't
just assume the DPI given for a display is correct or appropriate; the
situation is far more complex. That's what all those links I pasted in
your bug report are about. 'Let's size everything physically!' seems
like a neat idea when you first read about it, but it never works out
quite that well in practice.

 The only solace for today's visually challenged is that today's young 
 software creators lucky enough to reach old age and accumulate the wisdom 
 that should accompany it will in fact survive to old age, where likely good 
 eyesight will exist only in what's left of their cranial memories.

The anaconda team is hardly a bunch of 20-somethings...
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Re: consider people with poor vision

2013-06-18 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-06-18 16:26 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:


You can't
just assume the DPI given for a display is correct or appropriate; the
situation is far more complex.


I agree unconditionally.


'Let's size everything physically!' seems
like a neat idea when you first read about it, but it never works out
quite that well in practice.


It is most certainly not a neat idea. It can work well only in limited 
circumstances. Even if controlling physical size was more workable 
conceptually, simply the idea of control begets the bigger problem of 
choosing size. A11Y means the people doing the reading should be the only 
ones with real control over physical size.



The anaconda team is hardly a bunch of 20-somethings...


70-somethings non-zero? 60? 50? Are more than a pittance over 40?

Any with visual acuity below 33rd percentile?

Do more than zero primarily use a desktop display that is smaller than average?
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Fedora 19 Final status, testing/karma requests and needed fixes

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Williamson
It feels like time for a status summary mail again!

Fedora 19 Final TC5 is the current compose: it contains most of the
final churn for F19, change should be fairly restricted from here on
out. So this is a good time to take stock of where we are and get all
testing done.

tl;dr summary
-

Desktop team: please look at reducing size of desktop live (958426)
Installer team: please fix 924162
Selinux team: please roll a new selinux-policy ASAP (964006)
Releng team: when a new selinux-policy is available, roll some new cloud
test images (964006)

Karma required for:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-initial-setup-0.12-1.fc19
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-packagekit-3.8.2-2.fc19
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-19.5-1.fc19
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-meh-0.25-1.fc19
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.1.1-0.9.20130514git77a1594.fc19

Blocker status
--

https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/final/buglist is
the current list of proposed and accepted blockers and freeze exception
bugs.

There are a half dozen proposed blockers that we will be voting on at
tomorrow's blocker review meeting. Please do come out to the blocker
review meeting and provide your input if you possibly can, especially if
you're a reporter of a proposed blocker or a maintainer of an affected
component.

975159  anacondaMODIFIEDUnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't 
decode byte 0xc4 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128)   
975537  anacondaASSIGNEDBootLoaderError: failed to remove old 
efi boot entry
974711  fedora-logosNEW Drop HAL and beefy install 'ad banners' 
for F19 final(?)
975204  mesaMODIFIEDradeon card lost opengl 3.1 support 
974691  rsyslog NEW Since cleaning up from #974132, nothing 
gets written to /var/log/messages   
679486  xorg-x11-xauth  ASSIGNEDLiveinst doesn't start if hostname 
changes

Here's the status of the accepted blockers:

964586 - Anaconda does not isntall ntfs tools to allow OS-Prober to
find windows partition and therefore creates no grub.cfg entry - this
ought to be fixed in Final TC5 and just needs to be tested. The test is
to do a (BIOS) minimal install of Fedora 19 alongside a (BIOS) install
of Windows and check that a grub entry for the Windows install is
created.

971191 - DVD install option unavailable in TUI - a fix for this
narrowly missed TC5, and will be in the next build. We could test it
with an updates.img in the mean time.

971763 - disable updates-testing - this is mostly a 'reminder' bug to
put a 'final' version of fedora-release into RC1. No action needed yet.

968951 - g-i-s created user's accounts and settings are copied to new
users created after g-i-s completes but before a reboot - the fix for
this is in Final TC5, I have verified it appears to work. Further
verification would be welcome, and the update that fixes it -
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-initial-setup-0.12-1.fc19
- needs karma.

969852 - Software Update fails to update - two people have verified
the fix for this. The update that fixes it -
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-packagekit-3.8.2-2.fc19 -
needs karma.

958426 - 19 Final TC1 x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1
GB) - we need the desktop team to look at fixing this. At this point,
as noted above, repo and spin-kickstarts churn should be mostly done, so
now's the time to take a look at what's in the TC5 image and start
cutting.

974784 - live image composing in koji broken - the fix for this,
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/livecd-tools-19.5-1.fc19 , is
clearly good, or else we wouldn't have TC5 lives. The update has
sufficient karma to go stable, so no action needed here.

974032 - bug reporting doesn't work from LiveCD - the update that
fixes this just barely missed TC5. It may be possible to test it by
booting the TC5 live and doing 'yum update python-meh' before
installing, otherwise it may have to wait for TC6. The update that
should fix it,
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python-meh-0.25-1.fc19 , needs
karma.

964006 - cloud-init hostname service failing on initial boot - we have
initial indication that the planned fix for this works, but we need a
new selinux-policy to be built and new cloud images built with that
selinux-policy to confirm.

974198 - missing letters on various anaconda screens with spice
graphics - the fix for this has been reported to work by one tester,
but it'd be good if other testers could confirm it. The update that
fixes it -
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-qxl-0.1.1-0.9.20130514git77a1594.fc19
 - needs karma.

924162 - A software selection with dependency errors is allowed to
proceed if the dependency check runs twice - we are waiting on a fix
for this one. Looks like progress is being made in that direction,

Final Test Compose - Error

2013-06-18 Thread Ed Greshko
Just tried installing from DVD selecting KDE Desktop + other components and 
custom disk partitions and allowing download of updates.

I hit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975348 even though the 
bugzilla specifies netinstall.


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Re: Final Test Compose - Error

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 09:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Just tried installing from DVD selecting KDE Desktop + other components and 
 custom disk partitions and allowing download of updates.
 
 I hit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975348 even though the 
 bugzilla specifies netinstall.

Well, you 'allowed downloading of updates', so...yeah. The problem is in
the mariadb package somehow.
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Re: Final Test Compose - Error

2013-06-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/19/13 10:00, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 09:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Just tried installing from DVD selecting KDE Desktop + other components and 
 custom disk partitions and allowing download of updates.

 I hit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975348 even though the 
 bugzilla specifies netinstall.
 Well, you 'allowed downloading of updates', so...yeah. The problem is in
 the mariadb package somehow.

Duh(lack of coffee will be my excuse)

FWIW, I couldn't get VBox to drop into a terminal session to examine the logs. 

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Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2013-06-18 Thread updates
The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 348  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10269/revelation-0.4.14-1.fc17
 160  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0455/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc17
  88  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4234/stunnel-4.55-1.fc17
  83  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4501/libxslt-1.1.28-1.fc17
  80  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4581/libuser-0.57.6-2.fc17
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10128/ssmtp-2.61-20.fc17
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10121/subversion-1.7.10-1.fc17
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10233/php-5.4.16-1.fc17
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10830/fail2ban-0.8.10-1.fc17
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-9123/kernel-3.9.5-101.fc17
   2  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10929/xen-4.1.5-6.fc17
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10940/tomcat6-6.0.37-1.fc17
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10980/clamav-0.97.8-2.fc17
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11234/haproxy-1.4.24-1.fc17


The following Fedora 17 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 300  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-12509/PackageKit-0.7.6-1.fc17
 108  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3304/libvpx-1.2.0-1.fc17
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10172/gnome-bluetooth-3.4.2-2.fc17
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10602/dnsmasq-2.65-6.fc17


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 17 updates-testing

anthy-9100h-23.fc17
augeas-1.0.0-4.fc17
cvs-1.11.23-27.fc17
ddate-0.2.1-1.fc17
drupal6-backup_migrate-2.7-1.fc17
drupal7-7.22-6.fc17
haproxy-1.4.24-1.fc17
ibus-typing-booster-1.0.3-1.fc17
kde-workspace-4.10.4-5.fc17
libmetalink-0.1.2-3.fc17
printrun-0.0-26.20130604git80e313d.fc17
proftpd-1.3.4d-2.fc17
python-itsdangerous-0.21-3.fc17
rubygem-qpid_messaging-0.22.0-1.fc17
sugar-labyrinth-15-1.fc17
sugar-maze-24-1.fc17
wireshark-1.6.16-2.fc17

Details about builds:



 anthy-9100h-23.fc17 (FEDORA-2013-11214)
 Japanese character set input library

Update Information:

Fix a segfault issue

ChangeLog:

* Mon Jun 17 2013 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 9100h-23
- Fix a segfault issue. (#973127)
* Wed Mar 27 2013 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 9100h-22
- Rebuilt for aarch64 support (#925002)
* Fri Mar  8 2013 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 9100h-21
- Apply a patch from Mike FABIAN to get anthy.el working back on Emacs 24.3.1.
* Wed Feb 13 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 9100h-20
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Aug 14 2012 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 9100h-19
- Update License tag.
* Wed Jul 18 2012 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 9100h-18
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #973127 - [abrt] ibus-anthy-1.5.3-1.fc18: anthy_xstrcmp: Process 
/usr/bin/python2.7 was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973127




 augeas-1.0.0-4.fc17 (FEDORA-2013-11222)
 A library for changing configuration files

Update Information:

Fix parsing of /etc/sysconfig/network.

ChangeLog:

* Tue Jun 18 2013 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com - 1.0.0-4
- Fix /etc/sysconfig/network (RHBZ#904222).
* Wed Jun  5 2013 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com - 1.0.0-3
- Don't package lenses in tests/ subdirectory.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #904222 - augeas-libs-1.0.0-1.el5 update prevents  setting 
/etc/sysconfig/network
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=904222




 cvs-1.11.23-27.fc17 (FEDORA-2013-11213)
 Concurrent Versions System

Update Information:


Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-06-18 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 161  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0416/fedora-business-cards-1-0.1.beta1.fc18
  95  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3935/puppet-3.1.1-1.fc18
  88  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4243/stunnel-4.55-1.fc18
  75  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-4823/microcode_ctl-2.0-3.fc18
  60  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18
  33  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-8381/varnish-3.0.3-5.fc18
  19  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-9707/livecd-tools-18.16-2.fc18
  14  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-9962/subversion-1.7.10-1.fc18
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10440/owncloud-4.5.12-1.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10713/openstack-keystone-2012.2.4-4.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10806/fail2ban-0.8.10-1.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10724/qemu-1.2.2-12.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10953/clamav-0.97.8-2.fc18
   2  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10941/xen-4.2.2-7.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10950/nagios-3.5.0-5.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11198/dbus-1.6.12-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11212/haproxy-1.4.24-1.fc18


The following Fedora 18 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 129  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2192/nautilus-3.6.3-5.fc18
  13  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6209/ibus-1.5.2-4.fc18
  11  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10318/system-config-keyboard-1.3.1-14.fc18
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10428/NetworkManager-0.9.8.2-1.fc18,network-manager-applet-0.9.8.2-1.fc18
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10635/emacs-24.2-19.fc18
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10643/dnsmasq-2.65-6.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10832/cups-1.5.4-28.fc18
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-10939/dosfstools-3.0.20-2.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11198/dbus-1.6.12-1.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11221/kernel-3.9.6-200.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11248/kde-workspace-4.10.4-5.fc18


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 18 updates-testing

adevs-2.6-4.fc18
amanda-3.3.2-4.fc18
anthy-9100h-23.fc18
augeas-1.0.0-4.fc18
cas-client-3.2.1-2.fc18
cvs-1.11.23-30.fc18
dbus-1.6.12-1.fc18
ddate-0.2.1-1.fc18
dh-make-0.61-1.fc18
drupal6-backup_migrate-2.7-1.fc18
drupal7-7.22-6.fc18
eruby-1.0.5-23.fc18
haproxy-1.4.24-1.fc18
ibus-typing-booster-1.0.3-1.fc18
kde-plasma-applicationname-1.7g18437d0-2.fc18
kde-workspace-4.10.4-5.fc18
kernel-3.9.6-200.fc18
kryo-2.21-1.fc18
lhapdf-5.8.9-4.fc18
libmetalink-0.1.2-3.fc18
lifeograph-0.11.1-2.fc18
mate-themes-1.6.1-2.fc18
nodejs-collections-0.1.20-2.fc18
nodejs-console-dot-log-0.1.3-2.fc18
nodejs-dep-graph-1.1.0-2.fc18
nodejs-i-0.3.1-1.fc18
nodejs-isodate-0.1.4-2.fc18
nodejs-mimeparse-0.1.4-1.fc18
printrun-0.0-26.20130604git80e313d.fc18
proftpd-1.3.4d-2.fc18
python-doit-0.21.0-2.fc18
python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure-0.1.7-1.fc18
python-itsdangerous-0.21-2.fc18
python-kerberos-1.1-10.fc18
qelectrotech-0.30-0.8.beta.fc18
rubygem-qpid_messaging-0.22.0-1.fc18
screen-4.1.0-0.15.20120314git3c2946.fc18
subethasmtp-3.1.7-1.fc18
sugar-labyrinth-15-1.fc18
sugar-maze-24-1.fc18
targetcli-2.1.fb26-2.fc18
wireshark-1.8.8-2.fc18

Details about builds:



 adevs-2.6-4.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-11238)
 C++ library for constructing discrete event simulation

Update Information:

Adevs (A Discrete EVent System simulator) is a C++ library for constructing 
discrete event simulations based on the Parallel DEVS and Dynamic DEVS 
(dynDEVS) formalism.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #971244 - Review Request: adevs - C++ library for constructing 
discrete event simulation
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971244




 amanda-3.3.2-4.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-11239)
 A network-capable tape backup solution

Fail2ban denied again by selinux

2013-06-18 Thread Cristian Sava
After recent updates fail2ban was broken again.

*  Plugin catchall (100. confidence) suggests
***

If you believe that python2.7 should be allowed write access on the
fail2ban directory by default.
Then you should report this as a bug.
You can generate a local policy module to allow this access.
Do
allow this access for now by executing:
# grep fail2ban-client /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol
# semodule -i mypol.pp

Additional Information:
Source Contextsystem_u:system_r:fail2ban_client_t:s0
Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:fail2ban_var_run_t:s0
Target Objectsfail2ban [ dir ]
Sourcefail2ban-client
Source Path   /usr/bin/python2.7
Port  Unknown
Host  s198.xx.yy.ro
Source RPM Packages   python-2.7.5-1.fc19.x86_64
Target RPM Packages   
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.12.1-52.fc19.noarch
Selinux Enabled   True
Policy Type   targeted
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Host Name s198.xx.yy.ro
Platform  Linux s198.xx.yy.ro 3.9.5-301.fc19.x86_64
#1
  SMP Tue Jun 11 19:39:38 UTC 2013 x86_64
x86_64
Alert Count   35
First Seen2013-06-17 14:04:13 EEST
Last Seen 2013-06-19 08:28:22 EEST
Local ID  9d6fd1b8-250e-4425-b3e3-7590dc3bc1f1

Raw Audit Messages
type=AVC msg=audit(1371619702.236:67): avc:  denied  { write } for
pid=871 comm=fail2ban-client name=fail2ban dev=tmpfs ino=11022
scontext=system_u:system_r:fail2ban_client_t:s0
tcontext=system_u:object_r:fail2ban_var_run_t:s0 tclass=dir


type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1371619702.236:67): arch=x86_64 syscall=access
success=no exit=EACCES a0=1ab48c0 a1=3 a2=32adbbbf88 a3=0 items=0 ppid=1
pid=871 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0
fsgid=0 ses=4294967295 tty=(none) comm=fail2ban-client
exe=/usr/bin/python2.7 subj=system_u:system_r:fail2ban_client_t:s0
key=(null)

Hash: fail2ban-client,fail2ban_client_t,fail2ban_var_run_t,dir,write

** Fixing  **

[cristi@s198 ~]$ systemctl status fail2ban.service
fail2ban.service - Fail2ban Service
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/fail2ban.service; enabled)
   Active: failed (Result: start-limit) since Wed 2013-06-19 08:28:22
EEST; 1min 45s ago
  Process: 871 ExecStart=/usr/bin/fail2ban-client -x start (code=exited,
status=255)

Jun 19 08:28:21 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: fail2ban.service holdoff
tim
Jun 19 08:28:21 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: Stopping Fail2ban Service...
Jun 19 08:28:21 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: Starting Fail2ban Service...
Jun 19 08:28:22 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: fail2ban.service: control
pr...5
Jun 19 08:28:22 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: Failed to start Fail2ban
Ser
Jun 19 08:28:22 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: Unit fail2ban.service
entere
Jun 19 08:28:22 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: fail2ban.service holdoff
tim
Jun 19 08:28:22 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: Stopping Fail2ban Service...
Jun 19 08:28:22 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: Starting Fail2ban Service...
Jun 19 08:28:22 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: fail2ban.service: control
pr...5
[cristi@s198 ~]$ sudo grep fail2ban-client /var/log/audit/audit.log |
audit2allow -M myfail2ban_client
[sudo] password for cristi: 
 IMPORTANT ***
To make this policy package active, execute:

semodule -i myfail2ban_client.pp

[cristi@s198 ~]$ sudo semodule -i myfail2ban_client.pp
[cristi@s198 ~]$ sudo systemctl restart fail2ban.service
[cristi@s198 ~]$ systemctl status fail2ban.servicefail2ban.service -
Fail2ban Service
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/fail2ban.service; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Wed 2013-06-19 08:33:09 EEST; 7s ago
  Process: 2083 ExecStart=/usr/bin/fail2ban-client -x start
(code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
 Main PID: 2086 (fail2ban-server)
   CGroup: name=systemd:/system/fail2ban.service
   └─2086 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fail2ban-server -b
-s /var/run/fai...

Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.server : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.jail   : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.jail   : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.jail   : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.filter : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.filter : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.filter : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban.actions[2086]: INFO   Set
banTim...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro fail2ban-server[2086]:
fail2ban.jail   : ...
Jun 19 08:33:09 s198.xx.yy.ro systemd[1]: Started Fail2ban Service.

Cristian Sava



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