Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Petr Schindler
On Čt, 2013-11-21 at 07:57 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:25 PM, James Patterson
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It would be
> > great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a few people.
> >
> > I filed a bug here under wallpapers, but moved it to distro since it's a
> > policy decision:
> >  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030643
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I do see the swastika, but it you I doubt that I would have seen it
> unless I knew what I was looking for.
> In my view, given the fact that the image was never designed to
> resemble the swastika, there's no reason to change it.

Hi,

I'm trying to see swastika there but I haven't been able to do so. There
is nothing what could be interpreted as swastika. Can someone draw it
and send a picture? I think that this thread is totally insane and sad.
But it is probably because people always tend to see things they don't
like everywhere (like conspiracies).

Petr Schindler

> 
> ... Just to be safe, we can always add a small Israeli flag on the
> bottom right :P
> 
> - Gilboa
> (Note: I'm Jewish and Israeli :))


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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:25 PM, James Patterson
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika. It would be
> great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a few people.
>
> I filed a bug here under wallpapers, but moved it to distro since it's a
> policy decision:
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030643
>

Hi,

I do see the swastika, but it you I doubt that I would have seen it
unless I knew what I was looking for.
In my view, given the fact that the image was never designed to
resemble the swastika, there's no reason to change it.

... Just to be safe, we can always add a small Israeli flag on the
bottom right :P

- Gilboa
(Note: I'm Jewish and Israeli :))
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Fedora 20 TC2 AMIs

2013-11-20 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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Hi all,

Final TC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-3392b55a : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-f794b39e : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC2/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-TC2-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC2/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-TC2-AMI

when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-11-20 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 215  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18
  61  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17195/spice-gtk-0.18-3.fc18
  58  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17431/thunderbird-17.0.9-1.fc18
  55  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17635/wireshark-1.10.2-4.fc18
  54  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17853/davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc18
  53  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17912/chicken-4.8.0.4-4.fc18
  23  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-20176/mantis-1.2.15-3.fc18
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21298/drupal6-context-3.3-1.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21415/python3-3.3.0-5.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21354/moodle-2.3.10-1.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-20817/python-djblets-0.7.23-1.fc18,ReviewBoard-1.7.18-1.fc18


The following Fedora 18 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 284  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2192/nautilus-3.6.3-5.fc18
  13  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-20908/libxfce4ui-4.10.0-9.fc18
   9  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21084/perl-5.16.3-245.fc18
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21375/kernel-3.11.8-100.fc18
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21677/openssh-6.1p1-10.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21783/unzip-6.0-11.fc18
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21776/soprano-2.9.4-2.fc18


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 18 updates-testing

bpython-0.12-4.fc18
easystroke-0.6.0-1.fc18
ghc-pureMD5-2.1.2.1-2.fc18
ghc-snap-server-0.9.3.4-1.fc18
hgsvn-0.2.1-0.1.dev.fc18
mate-desktop-1.6.2-0.10.git81c245b.fc18
mate-file-manager-1.6.3-0.10.gitbf47018.fc18
mathomatic-16.0.5-5.fc18
openscap-1.0.0-1.fc18
pam_url-0.3.3-1.fc18
perl-CSS-1.09-1.fc18
php-aws-sdk-2.4.10-1.fc18
qtermwidget-0.4.0-6.fc18
salt-0.17.2-1.fc18
soprano-2.9.4-2.fc18
sugar-kuku-5-0.fc18
unzip-6.0-11.fc18
xrootd-3.3.4-1.fc18

Details about builds:



 bpython-0.12-4.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-21787)
 Fancy curses interface to the Python interactive interpreter

Update Information:

Fixes a crash when resizing terminal window while using bpython.



ChangeLog:

* Mon Nov 18 2013 Terje Rosten  - 0.12-4
- Add patch to fix resize crash (bz #667934)
* Sat Aug  3 2013 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 0.12-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #667934 - [abrt] bpython-0.9.7.1-1.fc14: cli.py:1409:resize:error: 
mvwin() returned ERR
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667934




 easystroke-0.6.0-1.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-21763)
 Gesture-recognition application for X11

Update Information:

Update to 0.6.0

ChangeLog:

* Tue Nov 19 2013 Tom Callaway  - 0.6.0-1
- update to 0.6.0
* Sat Aug  3 2013 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 0.5.5.1-8
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild
* Sat Jul 27 2013 pmach...@redhat.com - 0.5.5.1-7
- Rebuild for boost 1.54.0
* Mon Mar 25 2013 Peter Robinson  0.5.5.1-6
- Drop xorg sdk dependency as it's been provided by devel since F-9
* Sun Feb 10 2013 Denis Arnaud  - 0.5.5.1-5
- Rebuild for Boost-1.53.0
* Sat Feb  9 2013 Denis Arnaud  - 0.5.5.1-4
- Rebuild for Boost-1.53.0

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1031966 - easystroke-0.6.0 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031966




 ghc-pureMD5-2.1.2.1-2.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-21794)
 Pure Haskell MD5 digest implementation

Update Information:

Pure Haskell MD5 digest implementation
- http://hackage.haskell.org/package/pureMD5

References:

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Fedora 19 updates-testing report

2013-11-20 Thread updates
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
  54  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17836/davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc19
  33  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-19262/quassel-0.9.1-1.fc19
  26  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-19963/openstack-glance-2013.1.4-1.fc19
  23  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-20202/mantis-1.2.15-3.fc19
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21231/drupal6-context-3.3-1.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21418/python3-3.3.2-8.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21397/moodle-2.4.7-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21786/krb5-1.11.3-13.fc19


The following Fedora 19 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21053/gdb-7.6.1-46.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21194/libproxy-0.4.11-7.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21422/btrfs-progs-0.20.rc1.20131114git9f0c53f-1.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21412/perl-threads-shared-1.45-1.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21435/gnome-shell-3.8.4-3.fc19
   3  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21576/glib2-2.36.3-4.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21664/pciutils-3.2.1-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21786/krb5-1.11.3-13.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21772/unzip-6.0-11.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21769/libwacom-0.8-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-21779/wpa_supplicant-2.0-8.fc19


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 19 updates-testing

apitrace-4.0-4.fc19
bpython-0.12-4.fc19
bsfilter-1.0.19-1.fc19
cups-filters-1.0.41-4.fc19
datefudge-1.18-2.fc19
easystroke-0.6.0-1.fc19
ghc-pureMD5-2.1.2.1-2.fc19
ghc-snap-server-0.9.3.4-1.fc19
ghc-yaml-0.8.5-3.fc19
glacier-cli-0-7.20131113gite8a2536.fc19
hgsvn-0.2.1-0.1.dev.fc19
krb5-1.11.3-13.fc19
libwacom-0.8-1.fc19
mMass-5.5.0-5.fc19
mate-desktop-1.6.2-0.10.git81c245b.fc19
mate-file-manager-1.6.3-0.10.gitbf47018.fc19
mathomatic-16.0.5-5.fc19
net-tools-2.0-0.15.20131119git.fc19
openscap-1.0.0-1.fc19
openshift-origin-cartridge-mongodb-1.12.0.1-1.fc19
openshift-origin-cartridge-mysql-0.7.0.1-1.fc19
pam_url-0.3.3-1.fc19
perl-CSS-1.09-1.fc19
perl-ExtUtils-Typemap-1.00-1.fc19
perl-ExtUtils-Typemaps-Default-1.04-1.fc19
perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.035-1.fc19
perl-Tk-Pod-0.9942-1.fc19
php-aws-sdk-2.4.10-1.fc19
python-whoosh-2.5.5-1.fc19
qtermwidget-0.4.0-6.fc19
ramond-0.5-1.fc19
rubygem-domain_name-0.5.15-1.fc19
rubygem-rake-compiler-0.9.2-1.fc19
salt-0.17.2-1.fc19
sugar-kuku-5-0.fc19
unzip-6.0-11.fc19
wpa_supplicant-2.0-8.fc19
xrootd-3.3.4-1.fc19

Details about builds:



 apitrace-4.0-4.fc19 (FEDORA-2013-21790)
 Tools for tracing OpenGL

Update Information:

Initial package.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1030107 - Review Request: apitrace - Tools for tracing OpenGL
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030107




 bpython-0.12-4.fc19 (FEDORA-2013-21792)
 Fancy curses interface to the Python interactive interpreter

Update Information:

Fixes a crash when resizing terminal window while using bpython.



ChangeLog:

* Mon Nov 18 2013 Terje Rosten  - 0.12-4
- Add patch to fix resize crash (bz #667934)
* Sat Aug  3 2013 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 0.12-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #667934 - [abrt] bpython-0.9.7.1-1.fc14: cli.py:1409:resize:error: 
mvwin() returned ERR
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667934




 bsfilter-1.0.19-1.fc19 (FEDORA-2013-21791)
 Bayesian spam filter

Update Information:

New version 1.0.19 is released, including som

Re: F19 -> F20 is supposed to work now?

2013-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 01:09 -0200, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
> I have a recently installed F19 machine and I tried to fedup to F20.
> All went fine until reboot... I choose the Fedup option on GRUB list,
> but my system boots "normally" after that, I get a GDM login screen.
> 
> 
> Are problems like this expected for now? Is it worth reporting as a
> bug?

It ought to work, and several testers reported success at Beta, IIRC.
Have you tried running the upgrade as described at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_upgrade_fedup_cli_previous_desktop ?
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F19 -> F20 is supposed to work now?

2013-11-20 Thread Bruno Medeiros
I have a recently installed F19 machine and I tried to fedup to F20. All
went fine until reboot... I choose the Fedup option on GRUB list, but my
system boots "normally" after that, I get a GDM login screen.

Are problems like this expected for now? Is it worth reporting as a bug?

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2013-11-20 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit LXDE Live is over its size limit.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:6 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace "dl" with "download-ib01" in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Sam Kottler


- Original Message -
> From: "Chris Adams" 
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:49:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Fedora 20 Swastika
> 
> Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski  said:
> > I think that for a sake of everyone who can see a swastika on this
> > wallpaper, just change it to something else.
> 
> I disagree.  There will _always_ be somebody that can find fault with
> anything (especially something as subjective as artwork); you can't just
> throw away somebody's work because somebody sees something they don't
> like.

I've been trying to remain quiet on this thread because it's reached a point of 
being asinine, but I have to take issue with your language. "somebody sees 
something they don't like" is a reference to a swastika; someone raised a 
concern and you were dismissive both toward the concern and toward the symbol. 
The swastika symbolizes a period when *millions* of people who died and tens of 
millions of people who had their lives completely uprooted because of the 
events of that era. It's not "something [a person] didn't like" so don't pin it 
on a single person raising an issue; that's not neither accurate nor 
appropriate.

I am of Jewish descent, and had family members who were in camps during the 
Holocaust. I don't see a swastika in the wallpaper and don't really care as to 
whether the it stays or goes, but I just felt the need to point out the 
dismissive tone when someone had clearly raised an issue.

> 
> I just see a slanted "H", which I presume to be the intent.
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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Richard Vickery
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Chris Adams  wrote:

> Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski  said:
> > I think that for a sake of everyone who can see a swastika on this
> > wallpaper, just change it to something else.
>
> I disagree.  There will _always_ be somebody that can find fault with
> anything (especially something as subjective as artwork); you can't just
> throw away somebody's work because somebody sees something they don't
> like.
>
> I just see a slanted "H", which I presume to be the intent.
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Self-introduction: Ramilton

2013-11-20 Thread Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior

Hi guys,

I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I have working a lot
with Fedora since some years ago. So, let's time to
contribute with the project.

I have some experience like translation, Ambassador and i like  
contribute with team the testing.


So, let me introduce myself.

My name is Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior, I'm 37 years old and live at Serra
Brazil. My first contact with Linux was approximately 10 years ago and
since that year I have been working only with Linux.

At my signature I'm sending my contacts fell free if anyone want to  
contact me.

I ask to approve the request I made through my account fas.

Thanks,

Wiki:  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ramilton
Fas: Ramilton
email: ramil...@fedoraproject.org

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Re: Fedora 20 broadcast address

2013-11-20 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 16:21 -0600, Kevin Martin wrote:
> On 11/20/2013 03:21 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> > Some time ago I asked a question about the broadcast address on Fedora
> > 20. On my desktop (installed from one of Alpha TC's) the interface is
> > brought up correctly, except that the broadcast address does not get set
> > correctly:
> > Ifconfig reports:
> > 
> >> p5p1: flags=4163  mtu 1500
> >> inet 192.168.159.186  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 0.0.0.0
> >> inet6 2001:981:688d:f2:1e6f:65ff:fed5:7742  prefixlen 128
> >> scopeid 0x0
> >> inet6 fe80::1e6f:65ff:fed5:7742  prefixlen 64  scopeid
> >> 0x20
> >> ether 1c:6f:65:d5:77:42  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> >> RX packets 568712  bytes 540500284 (515.4 MiB)
> >> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> >> TX packets 359977  bytes 282238000 (269.1 MiB)
> >> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> > 
> > The broadcast address is not set when I use DHCP, but is also missing
> > when I use static address allocation. When I try a
> > ifdown p5p1; ifup05p1
> > the broadcast address is setup correctly.
> > 
> > Today I installed my laptop with Fedora 20 Beta. I see the same there:
> > The broadcast address is not set. I originally suspected a faulty nic
> > river. But on my laptop is occurs on both the wlan and ethernet
> > interfaces.
> > 
> > Does anybody else see the same thing? How can I debug this? With
> > NetworkManager I am quite clueless on how to tackle this.
> > 
> > Kind regards, Louis
> > 
> > 
> Hmm, interesting.  I, too, see this happening on a fully updated rawhide 
> machine using NetworkManager:
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux ktmtoshiba 3.13.0-0.rc0.git7.1.fc21.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 19 02:18:43 
> UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> $ ifconfig eth0
> eth0: flags=4163  mtu 1500
> inet 192.168.238.116  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 0.0.0.0
> inet6 fe80::ca0a:a9ff:feb1:46c2  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
> ether c8:0a:a9:b1:46:c2  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> RX packets 912190  bytes 1118290284 (1.0 GiB)
> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> TX packets 257389  bytes 23661386 (22.5 MiB)
> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 1  collisions 0
> 
> It would appear to be in the interaction between dhclient and NetworkManager 
> (which actually starts the nic and configures it,
> dhclient or NetworkManager?) as my dhclient leases file also shows  a 
> broadcast address but, as you can see, none appears on my nic.
>  Seems like a bz should be raised for this.
Ok, I will raise a BZ then
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Re: Fedora 20 broadcast address

2013-11-20 Thread Kevin Martin
On 11/20/2013 03:21 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> Some time ago I asked a question about the broadcast address on Fedora
> 20. On my desktop (installed from one of Alpha TC's) the interface is
> brought up correctly, except that the broadcast address does not get set
> correctly:
> Ifconfig reports:
> 
>> p5p1: flags=4163  mtu 1500
>> inet 192.168.159.186  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 0.0.0.0
>> inet6 2001:981:688d:f2:1e6f:65ff:fed5:7742  prefixlen 128
>> scopeid 0x0
>> inet6 fe80::1e6f:65ff:fed5:7742  prefixlen 64  scopeid
>> 0x20
>> ether 1c:6f:65:d5:77:42  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
>> RX packets 568712  bytes 540500284 (515.4 MiB)
>> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
>> TX packets 359977  bytes 282238000 (269.1 MiB)
>> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> 
> The broadcast address is not set when I use DHCP, but is also missing
> when I use static address allocation. When I try a
> ifdown p5p1; ifup05p1
> the broadcast address is setup correctly.
> 
> Today I installed my laptop with Fedora 20 Beta. I see the same there:
> The broadcast address is not set. I originally suspected a faulty nic
> river. But on my laptop is occurs on both the wlan and ethernet
> interfaces.
> 
> Does anybody else see the same thing? How can I debug this? With
> NetworkManager I am quite clueless on how to tackle this.
> 
> Kind regards, Louis
> 
> 
Hmm, interesting.  I, too, see this happening on a fully updated rawhide 
machine using NetworkManager:

$ uname -a
Linux ktmtoshiba 3.13.0-0.rc0.git7.1.fc21.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 19 02:18:43 UTC 
2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ ifconfig eth0
eth0: flags=4163  mtu 1500
inet 192.168.238.116  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 0.0.0.0
inet6 fe80::ca0a:a9ff:feb1:46c2  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
ether c8:0a:a9:b1:46:c2  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 912190  bytes 1118290284 (1.0 GiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 257389  bytes 23661386 (22.5 MiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 1  collisions 0

It would appear to be in the interaction between dhclient and NetworkManager 
(which actually starts the nic and configures it,
dhclient or NetworkManager?) as my dhclient leases file also shows  a broadcast 
address but, as you can see, none appears on my nic.
 Seems like a bz should be raised for this.

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Re: Fedora 20 broadcast address

2013-11-20 Thread Louis Lagendijk
Some time ago I asked a question about the broadcast address on Fedora
20. On my desktop (installed from one of Alpha TC's) the interface is
brought up correctly, except that the broadcast address does not get set
correctly:
Ifconfig reports:

> p5p1: flags=4163  mtu 1500
> inet 192.168.159.186  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 0.0.0.0
> inet6 2001:981:688d:f2:1e6f:65ff:fed5:7742  prefixlen 128
> scopeid 0x0
> inet6 fe80::1e6f:65ff:fed5:7742  prefixlen 64  scopeid
> 0x20
> ether 1c:6f:65:d5:77:42  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> RX packets 568712  bytes 540500284 (515.4 MiB)
> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> TX packets 359977  bytes 282238000 (269.1 MiB)
> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

The broadcast address is not set when I use DHCP, but is also missing
when I use static address allocation. When I try a
ifdown p5p1; ifup05p1
the broadcast address is setup correctly.

Today I installed my laptop with Fedora 20 Beta. I see the same there:
The broadcast address is not set. I originally suspected a faulty nic
river. But on my laptop is occurs on both the wlan and ethernet
interfaces.

Does anybody else see the same thing? How can I debug this? With
NetworkManager I am quite clueless on how to tackle this.

Kind regards, Louis


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F20 Final Blocker Bug Review #2 Minutes

2013-11-20 Thread Petr Schindler

#fedora-blocker-review: f20final-blocker-review-2


Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-11-20/f20-blocker-review.2013-11-20-17.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-11-20/f20-blocker-review.2013-11-20-17.00.txt
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-11-20/f20-blocker-review.2013-11-20-17.00.log.html

Meeting summary
---
* Roll Call  (pschindl, 17:00:42)

* Introduction  (pschindl, 17:03:30)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs.  (pschindl, 17:03:44)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (pschindl, 17:03:47)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(pschindl, 17:03:49)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (pschindl, 17:03:51)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (pschindl,
17:03:53)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (pschindl,
17:03:55)
  * LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(pschindl, 17:03:57)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
(pschindl, 17:03:59)
  * LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
(pschindl, 17:04:01)
  * 9 Proposed Blockers  (pschindl, 17:04:12)
  * 14 Accepted Blockers  (pschindl, 17:04:15)
  * 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions  (pschindl, 17:04:17)
  * 4 Accepted Freeze Exceptions  (pschindl, 17:04:19)

* (1029616) ValueError: ('invalid size specification', '0.00 MB')
  (pschindl, 17:05:45)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1029616
(pschindl, 17:05:47)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (pschindl, 17:05:49)
  * AGREED: 1029616 - AcceptedBlocker - Anaconda crashes when some
languages are choosen for installation (for example French). This
violates the criterion: "The installer must run when launched
normally from the release-blocking images."  (pschindl, 17:13:37)

* (1032620) Doesn't remember POP password  (pschindl, 17:13:56)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1032620
(pschindl, 17:13:59)
  * Proposed Blocker, evolution, NEW  (pschindl, 17:14:01)
  * AGREED: #1032620 would be accepted as a blocker so long as it can be
reproduced from a fresh install by someone else. roshi will attempt
to reproduce and mark as accepted if so  (adamw, 17:23:07)

* (1013280) Slideshow in Anaconda 20.21 is only in Enlish language while
  in other distros like Ubuntu the language of the slideshow in the
  installer is according to the selected language for installation
  (pschindl, 17:23:34)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1013280
(pschindl, 17:23:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, fedora-logos, MODIFIED  (pschindl, 17:23:39)
  * AGREED: 1013280 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException -
Translation in ad banners doesn't break any criteria. But it's worth
to have possibility of having translated banners. The size of images
have to be checked after this patch is pushed.  (pschindl, 17:31:51)

* (960381) gnome-shell eats a lot of mem  (pschindl, 17:32:12)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960381
(pschindl, 17:32:15)
  * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW  (pschindl, 17:32:17)
  * This bug needs more info to have good decision. We will discuss it
next time  (pschindl, 17:41:48)

* (1031530) Switching between messages in message-tray doesn't work
  (pschindl, 17:42:34)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031530
(pschindl, 17:42:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW  (pschindl, 17:42:39)
  * AGREED: 1031530 - RejectedBlocker - Even though the notification
area doesn't work properly basic funtionality is working well. There
is no need to block release.  (pschindl, 17:50:57)

* (1031848) xkb-converted layouts do not include multiple mappings where
  they are commonly expected  (pschindl, 17:51:07)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031848
(pschindl, 17:51:10)
  * Proposed Blocker, kbd, NEW  (pschindl, 17:51:12)
  * AGREED: 1031848 - AcceptedBlocker - Impossibility of changing layout
in console makes console unusable for some layouts (for example
russian).  (pschindl, 18:02:01)

* (1026860) Instantiated service is not run, it stays in inactive state
  (and systemd debug log does not state why)  (pschindl, 18:02:21)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026860
(pschindl, 18:02:23)
  * Proposed Blocker, lvm2, NEW  (pschindl, 18:02:25)
  * There are still some information missing. We will try to get more
information and return to this bug next meeting  (pschindl,
18:13:24)

* (1026283) Na

yum groupinstall on Rawhide

2013-11-20 Thread Andre Robatino
For a few weeks now, installing a DE by the usual method "yum install
@gnome-desktop" no longer works. For some DEs, I can make it work by using
"groupinstall" without the @ sign. For others, it says that the DE does not
exist. Is the old syntax expected to work again eventually, and if not, what
has it been replaced by?

P.S. Everything continues to work normally in F20.

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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:49:14 -0600
Chris Adams  wrote:

> Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski  said:
> > I think that for a sake of everyone who can see a swastika on this
> > wallpaper, just change it to something else.
> 
> I disagree.  There will _always_ be somebody that can find fault
> with anything (especially something as subjective as artwork); you
> can't just throw away somebody's work because somebody sees
> something they don't like.
> 
> I just see a slanted "H", which I presume to be the intent.

Agree, it's Pandora's Box, and no that's not sexist.

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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski  said:
> I think that for a sake of everyone who can see a swastika on this
> wallpaper, just change it to something else.

I disagree.  There will _always_ be somebody that can find fault with
anything (especially something as subjective as artwork); you can't just
throw away somebody's work because somebody sees something they don't
like.

I just see a slanted "H", which I presume to be the intent.
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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Jason Farrell
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:

> 2013/11/20 Scott Robbins 
>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:37:20AM -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>> > I don't perceive any swastikas in the  current Heisenbug background,
>> > and I can fantasize from an ink plot better then the average bear.
>> >
>>
>> I'm Jewish, for what it's worth.  I don't _think_ I would have noticed it
>> had it not been mentioned, but after reading the list and finally having a
>> look for myself, I saw where people might see a swastika in it.
>>
>> Now that it's been mentioned, I find that I can't help but notice, though
>> I
>> think that even had I noticed on my own, I would have figured it's just me
>> and let it go.
>>
>>
>>
> I think that for a sake of everyone who can see a swastika on this
> wallpaper, just change it to something else.
>
>
I think that for the sake of the 99.% who don't see a thing except a
right-angled wallpaper pattern, just keep it.
(This is probably one of the saddest Fedora threads I've run into in a
while)

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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2013/11/20 Scott Robbins 

> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:37:20AM -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> > I don't perceive any swastikas in the  current Heisenbug background,
> > and I can fantasize from an ink plot better then the average bear.
> >
>
> I'm Jewish, for what it's worth.  I don't _think_ I would have noticed it
> had it not been mentioned, but after reading the list and finally having a
> look for myself, I saw where people might see a swastika in it.
>
> Now that it's been mentioned, I find that I can't help but notice, though I
> think that even had I noticed on my own, I would have figured it's just me
> and let it go.
>
>
>
I think that for a sake of everyone who can see a swastika on this
wallpaper, just change it to something else.


Best regards,
Michal

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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Richard Vickery
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:

>
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> > I see a closeup of 200 count Egyptian cotton weave.  I could in no why,
> no matter how hard I tried or squinted, see anything close to a swastika.
>
> I thought about asking the OP for a tracing to make it easier for me to
> find. But after 4-5 minutes of looking at it, I definitely see a pizza…
> with the face of Jesus on it. And not the Jesus who puts food on the table,
> I mean the Jewish one.
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 23:00 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >>
> >> While I do not want to overrule any decisions made, I would like to note
> >> that asking for self-selected opinions (in a not-the-most-diverse
> community)
> >> on whether an item is potentially offensive to a minority is a somewhat
> >> problematic methodology.  (That we have done in the past for Beefy
> Miracle,
> >> so... I may be a hypocrite.)
> >
> > well, so far as I can tell, at least two of the people who've so far
> > said they can't possibly make out a swastika are jewish, so…
>
> I'm a gay, gays were among the many victims of the Nazis. Do I somehow
> have better visual acuity to locate swastikas? Fine, I'll use my 21st
> century gay powers to put this issue to rest. You've now got two Jews and a
> homo saying they don't see this thing.
>
> Nevertheless, I think we really do need at least a 2nd and 3rd person,
> anyone, even Mr. Super White Straight non-Jew Male, see this thing also.
> It's either there or it isn't, and it's not like Nazism is exactly an
> ideology that works subliminally and subtly either. The context matters,
> and I see neither the context present nor its symbol.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn 
> wrote:
> >
> > Probably related to this:
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/concern_troll
>
> I think we shouldn't accuse people of trolling unless they're clearly
> trolling. (i.e. don't resort to play ground name calling unless you've run
> out of logical arguments, and you can be funny rather than be a dick when
> resorting to it)
>
>
> Chris Murphy
> --
>
I think I should retract my statement about removing it because of a
"swastika" looking graphic. I made the comment in references in order to be
 kind to people. I strongly agree that it the resemblance to a Nazi symbol
lacks any recognition, yet completely understand the reference. I'm sorry
that I piped up.
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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 08:37:20AM -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> I don't perceive any swastikas in the  current Heisenbug background,
> and I can fantasize from an ink plot better then the average bear.
> 

I'm Jewish, for what it's worth.  I don't _think_ I would have noticed it
had it not been mentioned, but after reading the list and finally having a
look for myself, I saw where people might see a swastika in it.
  
Now that it's been mentioned, I find that I can't help but notice, though I
think that even had I noticed on my own, I would have figured it's just me
and let it go.

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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Murphy

On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> I see a closeup of 200 count Egyptian cotton weave.  I could in no why, no 
> matter how hard I tried or squinted, see anything close to a swastika.

I thought about asking the OP for a tracing to make it easier for me to find. 
But after 4-5 minutes of looking at it, I definitely see a pizza… with the face 
of Jesus on it. And not the Jesus who puts food on the table, I mean the Jewish 
one.


On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Adam Williamson  wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 23:00 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> 
>> While I do not want to overrule any decisions made, I would like to note
>> that asking for self-selected opinions (in a not-the-most-diverse community)
>> on whether an item is potentially offensive to a minority is a somewhat
>> problematic methodology.  (That we have done in the past for Beefy Miracle,
>> so... I may be a hypocrite.)
> 
> well, so far as I can tell, at least two of the people who've so far
> said they can't possibly make out a swastika are jewish, so…

I'm a gay, gays were among the many victims of the Nazis. Do I somehow have 
better visual acuity to locate swastikas? Fine, I'll use my 21st century gay 
powers to put this issue to rest. You've now got two Jews and a homo saying 
they don't see this thing.

Nevertheless, I think we really do need at least a 2nd and 3rd person, anyone, 
even Mr. Super White Straight non-Jew Male, see this thing also. It's either 
there or it isn't, and it's not like Nazism is exactly an ideology that works 
subliminally and subtly either. The context matters, and I see neither the 
context present nor its symbol.


On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn  
wrote:
> 
> Probably related to this:
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/concern_troll

I think we shouldn't accuse people of trolling unless they're clearly trolling. 
(i.e. don't resort to play ground name calling unless you've run out of logical 
arguments, and you can be funny rather than be a dick when resorting to it)


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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

I don't perceive any swastikas in the  current Heisenbug background,
and I can fantasize from an ink plot better then the average bear.

I would like to see something less boring, perhaps a rotation of high
res pictures of celestial objects and NASA photos.  Hopefully the
quality will be sufficient to prevent artifacts from appearing on
large screens.

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F-20 Branched report: 20131120 changes

2013-11-20 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 20 09:15:03 UTC 2013

Broken deps for armhfp
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Re: Fedora 20 Swastika

2013-11-20 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn

On 20.11.2013 00:35, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 15:31 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:




On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Adam Williamson 
wrote:
 On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 11:25 -0800, James Patterson wrote:
 > Hello,
 >
 > I noticed the new Fedora 20 wallpaper looks like a swastika.
 It would be
 > great if it didn't for the final release, it would upset a
 few people.
 >
 > I filed a bug here under wallpapers, but moved it to distro
 since it's a
 > policy decision:
 >  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1030643


 FWIW, it doesn't look remotely like one to me or anyone else
 currently
 discussing it in #fedora-devel.
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If anything looks even remotely like anything that brings up the
horrors of Nazi Germany, including a swastika, it REALLY should be
removed, lest we become fodder for some really nasty kickback from
Jewish people. This  decision to include such might encourage people
like Bill Gates - who is also a political scientist, aside from
abusing the public with his Microsoft stuff - fuel to kill our
organisation - and perhaps Linux as a whole - via the courts.


There really isn't any need for alarmism. We're talking about
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F20-alpha-wallpaper-wide.png .
No-one is getting sued into oblivion by Bill Gates or anyone else. Why
do so many people seem to want to default to OMG PANIC! mode these days?



Probably related to this:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/concern_troll

Regards,
  Dennis
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Re: Blockerbugs 0.4 Released and Deployed

2013-11-20 Thread Kamil Paral
> After a bit more of a delay than we were anticipating, blockerbugs
> 0.4 has been released and deployed to production!
> 
> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/

Love this:
http://i.imgur.com/543iFsm.png
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