Re: Fedora Server Update Testing

2015-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Jonathan Calloway
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 Greetings!

 I’m thinking about moving two of my web servers from CentOS to Fedora Server. 
  Do we “do” update testing for Fedora Server in the same way we do it for 
 F19-21, or is that a different list?

Same test method, same test channel. All testing, all the time, right here.  :-D

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Re: Fedora Server Update Testing

2015-03-07 Thread Jonathan Calloway
Perfect!

I’m building the new images now!

JC



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 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Jonathan Calloway
 jonathancallo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings!
 
 I’m thinking about moving two of my web servers from CentOS to Fedora 
 Server.  Do we “do” update testing for Fedora Server in the same way we do 
 it for F19-21, or is that a different list?
 
 Same test method, same test channel. All testing, all the time, right here.  
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2015-03-07 Thread Joerg Lechner
I don't know how to express correctly in computer English. As I used YUM 
previously from Fxx to F21,  for installation of YUM I went 
to the software tool in Gnome, put into the search line yum and then install. 
Afterwards there
was an icon YUM amongst all the other application icons, which are displayed, 
when You hit the Aktivitaeten 
Button (F22 German language version), and then the icon at the bottom there. I 
could use this simple way to display the yum menue in the window and in not
too complicated cases it was not neccessary to go via command line. 
In F22 it is not possible even to find YUM in the Gnome Software Tool, but 
there is Yum (or Yumex, I don't know the difference) as command line tool.


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Available Now!


On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 05:59:37 -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:

 Hi,
 as I know dnf
is also a command line tool, if I don't use a command line tool every day,
 I
always have to use the man pages. In don't find a tool with similar features
like YUM,
 for none experts in F22. The icon called Software in Gnome, has
not sufficient features
 to do all, what was possible with the icon yum.

Can
you tell a bit more about that icon?

What did it do? Yum in package yum is a
command-line tool, and dnf is
very similar. Perhaps you refer to yumex
instead? That's graphical
front-end for Yum.

 Anyway I can use yum and dnf as
command line line tool, as I sometimes did in F21,
 but it's more uncomfortable
work, compared  to F21 and to MS Windows.

If you still know how to use yum,
you can use it to search for package
tools other than gnome-software.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2015-03-07 Thread Gavin Flower

On 08/03/15 08:10, Gavin Flower wrote:

On 08/03/15 07:56, Joerg Lechner wrote:
I don't know how to express correctly in computer English. As I used 
YUM previously from Fxx to F21,  for installation of YUM I went
to the software tool in Gnome, put into the search line yum and 
then install. Afterwards there
was an icon YUM amongst all the other application icons, which are 
displayed, when You hit the Aktivitaeten
Button (F22 German language version), and then the icon at the bottom 
there. I could use this simple way to display the yum menue in the 
window and in not

too complicated cases it was not neccessary to go via command line.
In F22 it is not possible even to find YUM in the Gnome Software 
Tool, but there is Yum (or Yumex, I don't know the difference) as 
command line tool.



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(RC3) Available Now!



On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 05:59:37 -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:


Hi,
as I know dnf
is also a command line tool, if I don't use a command line tool every 
day,

I
always have to use the man pages. In don't find a tool with similar 
features

like YUM,

for none experts in F22. The icon called Software in Gnome, has

not sufficient features

to do all, what was possible with the icon yum.

Can
you tell a bit more about that icon?

What did it do? Yum in package yum is a
command-line tool, and dnf is
very similar. Perhaps you refer to yumex
instead? That's graphical
front-end for Yum.


Anyway I can use yum and dnf as

command line line tool, as I sometimes did in F21,

but it's more uncomfortable

work, compared  to F21 and to MS Windows.

If you still know how to use yum,
you can use it to search for package
tools other than gnome-software.

From the command line as root, can  run yum:
*# yum update
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, refresh-packagekit
No packages marked for update
# *

I assume you know to use *su -* to get into root from a terminal?

For details on how to run yum, type in *man yum*, either from either a 
normal user account, or your from root.


I run yum from the command line, as I get better diagnostics and have 
more control.  One can also modify its config file */etc/yum.conf*, or 
individual repo's in the directory */etc/yum.repos.d*



Cheers,
Gavin

aarghhh!  ignore the asterisks, if any show up.  I tried to format 
things to highlight them, but I noticed when I looked at my posting on 
the list that asterisks had been inserted.  It might be the case that 
you don't see any asterisks! and that it is just my software...


Reread Joerg's posting, then noticed he obviously knew about running yum 
from the command line - oh well!  However, I would still recommend him, 
and others, to use the command line as it provides far better control 
and superior diagnostics (especially when things go wrong)!




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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2015-03-07 Thread Gavin Flower

On 08/03/15 07:56, Joerg Lechner wrote:

I don't know how to express correctly in computer English. As I used YUM 
previously from Fxx to F21,  for installation of YUM I went
to the software tool in Gnome, put into the search line yum and then install. 
Afterwards there
was an icon YUM amongst all the other application icons, which are displayed, when You 
hit the Aktivitaeten
Button (F22 German language version), and then the icon at the bottom there. I 
could use this simple way to display the yum menue in the window and in not
too complicated cases it was not neccessary to go via command line.
In F22 it is not possible even to find YUM in the Gnome Software Tool, but 
there is Yum (or Yumex, I don't know the difference) as command line tool.


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Betreff: Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) 
Available Now!


On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 05:59:37 -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:


Hi,
as I know dnf

is also a command line tool, if I don't use a command line tool every day,

I

always have to use the man pages. In don't find a tool with similar features
like YUM,

for none experts in F22. The icon called Software in Gnome, has

not sufficient features

to do all, what was possible with the icon yum.

Can
you tell a bit more about that icon?

What did it do? Yum in package yum is a
command-line tool, and dnf is
very similar. Perhaps you refer to yumex
instead? That's graphical
front-end for Yum.


Anyway I can use yum and dnf as

command line line tool, as I sometimes did in F21,

but it's more uncomfortable

work, compared  to F21 and to MS Windows.

If you still know how to use yum,
you can use it to search for package
tools other than gnome-software.

From the command line as root, can  run yum:
*# yum update
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, refresh-packagekit
No packages marked for update
# *

I assume you know to use *su -* to get into root from a terminal?

For details on how to run yum, type in *man yum*, either from either a 
normal user account, or your from root.


I run yum from the command line, as I get better diagnostics and have 
more control.  One can also modify its config file */etc/yum.conf*, or 
individual repo's in the directory */etc/yum.repos.d*



Cheers,
Gavin

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Re: Anybody gets VirtualBox-4.3.24 from virtualbox.org running in F22 with the current kernel-4.0.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc22.x86_64?

2015-03-07 Thread Joachim Backes

On 03/07/2015 12:40 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:

Joachim Backes joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de writes:


as you can see in the subject, I'm running *F22/TC8 alpha* as host and
*not F21* (in F21, the VM runs well), and I had no problems with the
kernel of the F22/TC8 DVD.


Running VirtualBox on a host with a 4.0 kernel is expected to have problems,
see https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13835#comment:26 .






Hi Andre,

following your advice 
(https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13835#comment:26) and installing 
Vbox-4.3.25-98815 will solve my VB problems in F22. Thank you very much.


Kind regards

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Re: Problem with installing Fedora 22

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/07/15 12:46, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 20:57 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
 I am unable to install Fedora 22 on my PC and my laptop but it will 
 installing on a virtual machine. What am I doing wrong. I have 
 downloaded the iso three times and burn a dvd and loaded my usb 
 drive and neither one will work.
 It's entirely impossible for anyone to say if you post no details 
 about what's going wrong, I'm afraid. Could you elaborate a bit?
It may be helpful to give him guidance on how to elaborate?  Such as...

I did the following

1.  Downloaded the Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22_Alpha-3.iso
2.  I burned the image to a DVD.
3.  I attempted to boot the DVD and there was no splash screen or anything I 
only see a blank display.

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Trying to install Fedora 22 Alpha

2015-03-07 Thread Lawrence E Graves
I am having trouble installing Fedora 22 Alpha on my PC and laptop. I 
used the method enbodied in this email to get an iso. It will go to the 
screen that says you so many seconds and the installation will begin, 
screen go blank and then nothing.

[root@Jehovah ~]# cd /home/lawrence68/Downloads
[root@Jehovah Downloads]# ls
~  Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22_Alpha-3.iso
[root@Jehovah Downloads]# livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --efi 
Fedora-22-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdg1
/home/lawrence68/Downloads/Fedora-22-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso is not a 
file or block device


SYNTAX

livecd-iso-to-disk [--help] [--noverify] [--format] [--msdos] 
[--reset-mbr]

   [--efi] [--skipcopy] [--force] [--xo] [--xo-no-home]
   [--timeout time] [--totaltimeout time]
   [--extra-kernel-args args] [--multi] 
[--livedir dir]
   [--compress] [--skipcompress] [--swap-size-mb 
size]

   [--overlay-size-mb size] [--home-size-mb size]
   [--delete-home] [--crypted-home] 
[--unencrypted-home]
   [--updates updates.img] [--ks kickstart] 
[--label label]

   source target device

(Enter livecd-iso-to-disk --help on the command line for more 
information.)

[root@Jehovah Downloads]#
[root@Jehovah Downloads]# livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --efi 
Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22_Alpha-3.iso /dev/sdg1

Verifying image...
/home/lawrence68/Downloads/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22_Alpha-3.iso: 
0f17c8390a584a2b3ac9346df77fe983
Fragment sums: 6369b95bcc911b3125fa939a53a5d1e8b82429fa918b272346fa3e4c315d
Fragment count: 20
Supported ISO: no
Press [Esc] to abort check.
Checking: 100.0%

The media check is complete, the result is: PASS.

It is OK to use this media.
WARNING: THIS WILL DESTROY ANY DATA ON /dev/sdg!!!
Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort

/dev/sdg: 2 bytes were erased at offset 0x01fe (dos): 55 aa
/dev/sdg: calling ioctl to re-read partition table: Success
Waiting for devices to settle...
mkfs.fat 3.0.27 (2014-11-12)
Copying live image to target device.
squashfs.img
  1,451,425,792 100%  267.47MB/s0:00:05 (xfr#1, to-chk=0/1)
osmin.img
 12,288 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfr#1, to-chk=0/1)
Setting up /EFI/BOOT
Updating boot config file
Installing boot loader
Target device is now set up with a Live image!
[root@Jehovah Downloads]# eject /dev/sdg1
[root@Jehovah Downloads]#

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Re: [Test-Announce] 2015-03-09 @ ** 15:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2015-03-07 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

On 03/06/2015 11:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2015-03-09
# Time: ** 15:00 UTC ** NOTE TIME CHANGE
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net

Greetings testers!

It's QA meeting time again! Daylight savings kicks in in North America
(at least, my bit of it) this weekend, so I'm scheduling this meeting
for 15:00 UTC. If your clocks go back this weekend, the meeting should
be at the same local time as it was before. If your clocks don't go
back, it will be one hour earlier.

We signed off on Fedora 22 Alpha on Friday, so let's check we've done
all the rest of the necessary work around Alpha and do a bit of
planning ahead for Beta. We can also check in on upcoming Test Day
events.

If you have any other topic ideas, please reply to this mail and we'll
add them in the meeting! Thanks folks.

== Proposed Agenda Topics ==

1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 22 Alpha final check-in
3. Fedora 22 Beta planning
4. Test Day check-in
5. Open floor

Wine 1.7.38 reportedly fixes the ability to install Windows apps
on 64 bit systems.  The inability to load windows apps into
wine is a profound defect.  Fedora should ship with a wine
that has useful functionality.

Also, considering the problems Nouveau has with the GTX970,
it would be useful if Fedora 22 were able to work with the
Nvidia driver.

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Re: Problem with installing Fedora 22

2015-03-07 Thread Joerg Lechner
I have had a similar problem the first time.
Download iso RC3 Workstation x86_64,
downloadtime about 25 miniutes (yesterday,
short time after the annoncement). liveUsbCreator,
in the first time the media check was wrong, second
production on flash media (usbcreator), then I
could boot and install to external harddrive. 


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I am unable to install Fedora 22 on my PC and my laptop but it will 
installing
on a virtual machine. What am I doing wrong. I have 
downloaded the iso three
times and burn a dvd and loaded my usb drive 
and neither one will work.

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Re: Anybody gets VirtualBox-4.3.24 from virtualbox.org running in F22 with the current kernel-4.0.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc22.x86_64?

2015-03-07 Thread Bodhi Zazen
For what it is worth ...

Fedora 22 , XFCE spin, runs fine in KVM (virt-manager) using a Fedora 21 host

In my experience, Virtualbox has tended to lag, thus I converted to KVM. If 
Virtualbox is not working, consider using KVM for testing.

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test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 7:27:13 AM
Subject: Re: Anybody gets VirtualBox-4.3.24 from virtualbox.org running in  
F22 with the current kernel-4.0.0-0.rc2.git0.1.fc22.x86_64?

On 03/07/2015 12:40 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
 Joachim Backes joachim.backes at rhrk.uni-kl.de writes:

 as you can see in the subject, I'm running *F22/TC8 alpha* as host and
 *not F21* (in F21, the VM runs well), and I had no problems with the
 kernel of the F22/TC8 DVD.

 Running VirtualBox on a host with a 4.0 kernel is expected to have problems,
 see https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13835#comment:26 .





Hi Andre,

following your advice 
(https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13835#comment:26) and installing 
Vbox-4.3.25-98815 will solve my VB problems in F22. Thank you very much.

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2015-03-07 Thread Joerg Lechner
Hi,
as I know dnf is also a command line tool, if I don't use a command line tool 
every day,
I always have to use the man pages. In don't find a tool with similar features 
like YUM,
for none experts in F22. The icon called Software in Gnome, has not 
sufficient features
to do all, what was possible with the icon yum.
Anyway I can use yum and dnf as command line line tool, as I sometimes did in 
F21,
but it's more uncomfortable work, compared  to F21 and to MS Windows.
Kind Regards



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Betreff: Re: Fwd: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) 
Available Now!


On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 15:57 -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:
 Hi,
 sorry yum is
installed, but I don't find an Icon in the Gnome list 
 (activities - show
activities
  I use the German language Version: Aktivitaeten - Anwendungen

 anzeigen).
 Kind Regards

Er...yum is a command line app. It doesn't have a
menu entry. Note the 
'default' console package manager in F22 is dnf now,
though many folks 
are still using yum.
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Re: [Test-Announce] 2015-03-09 @ ** 15:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2015-03-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 00:10:31 -0800,
 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com wrote:

On 03/06/2015 11:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Wine 1.7.38 reportedly fixes the ability to install Windows apps
on 64 bit systems.  The inability to load windows apps into
wine is a profound defect.  Fedora should ship with a wine
that has useful functionality.


There is a work around listed in 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1192725#c7 
that might help you.

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RC3 KDE Questions....

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
Not sure if this is the best place, or if the KDE list would be better, but.

Installed the F22 KDE version and I've encountered at least 2 issues

1.  Right click on the application launcher on the taskbar and select Edit 
Applications and nothing happens.

2.  From the application launcher, go to Applications -- Settings and select 
Language and you get an indication that something is startingbut nothing 
happens.

I found these trying to select an input method, I use ibus in F21.  Found ibus 
not to be installed by default and I think that was done in the past.

Known issues?

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Fedora Server Update Testing

2015-03-07 Thread Jonathan Calloway
Greetings!

I’m thinking about moving two of my web servers from CentOS to Fedora Server.  
Do we “do” update testing for Fedora Server in the same way we do it for 
F19-21, or is that a different list?

Thanks!

Jonathan Calloway
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