lock screen phantom typing

2016-08-02 Thread Chuck Anderson
More Gnome problems:

For the second time, I came back to my F24 Gnome workstation at the
lock screen this morning, and I was unable to type my password to
unlock the screen because some phantom keyboard input was continuously
entering characters into the password field.  If I typed backspace, it
deleted the characters, but more characters continued to appear.

Anyone else seeing this problem?
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Re: window manager/focus problems

2016-07-26 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 09:47:15AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Chuck Anderson <c...@wpi.edu> wrote:
> > I just upgraded to Fedora 24 and the Gnome window manager sometimes
> > gets stuck such that I can't move windows anymore.  Focus also seems
> > to get stuck in virt-manager/virt-viewer.  Anyone else having this
> > problem?
> 
> Maybe. The problem I've had is when I'm in Activities view, where
> application windows are zoomed out and tiled so I can see all of them
> -  I'm using the command key to do this, which I think is the
> "windows" key on some keyboards, I guess sometimes it's called the
> magic key.
> 
> Anyway, when I hit that, it usually works but sometimes I can't get
> out of that by clicking with the mouse. Escape key works, but that was
> the only key that worked. Nothing else on the keyboard or mouse click
> did anything.

I'm not experiencing that particular problem.  I just tried hitting
the "windows" key to open the Activities view and was able to exit
using either the "windows" key, a mouse click on a window, a mouse
click on the Activities menu in the upper left, moving the mouse into
the Activities "hot corner", or using the Escape key.
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window manager/focus problems

2016-07-21 Thread Chuck Anderson
I just upgraded to Fedora 24 and the Gnome window manager sometimes
gets stuck such that I can't move windows anymore.  Focus also seems
to get stuck in virt-manager/virt-viewer.  Anyone else having this
problem?
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Re: Did luks get broken in f24?

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 01:41:22PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> I updated my kernel this morning and my disk password doesn't seem
> to work when booting with that kernel (multiple tries), but did work
> with the previous kernel. Is this perhaps glibc fallout with dracut?

FWIW, on F25 (rawhide, not branched) I updated/rebooted
kernel/glibc/etc. this morning and my laptop with LUKS still works.  I
didn't have to jump through hoops with dracut, but I did have to
install glibc-langpack-en in order for gnome-terminal to work.
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Re: Weird effect of mount command in F23

2015-10-20 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 07:12:36PM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 20.10.2015 17:41, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> >I suspect you suffer from software that wants to help you and "Do the
> >right thing."
> >
> 
> Exactly. When mounting HD's, *one* mount command is enough for
> achieving this, but for removable optical media (like CD's), I need
> at least 2 commands, if the media is not loaded. That's what I don't
> understand.

Accessing the device node is apparently causing the tray to close.  Why
do you not close the tray first with the button on the drive before
trying the mount?

> >If you try to mount a device with no media, mount might simply fail (no
> >media present).  Instead, at least for optical drives, it presumes the
> >desired media might be available in the tray and requests the device to
> >load media, then tries again to mount a file system from this device.
> 
> This is exactly my question: why mount is able to load the media,
> but doesn't include it correctly into the filesystem?

It seems like it doesn't wait long enough for the tray to close before
giving up.

You can try closing the tray first with this command:

eject -t

From man eject:

   -t, --trayclose
  With this option the drive is given a CD-ROM tray close command.
  Not all devices support this command.


and then do the mount, perhaps with a "sleep" in there:

eject -t
sleep 5
mount ...
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Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition

2014-10-13 Thread Chuck Anderson
Windows 8 does not shutdown when you tell it to shutdown.  Instead it
partially hibernates.  To be sure that Windows 8 really shuts down,
either turn off the Fast Startup (aka hybrid boot, aka hybrid
shutdown) option in Windows 8 (not in the BIOS/UEFI), or do a
Restart in Windows 8 but then choose to boot Fedora before Windows
starts.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:53:30AM -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
 Hi,
 I don't find a fast restart button in the BIOS. Windows 8.1 I have to run 
 in UEFI Mode. For F21 I have to switch to Legacy Mode. There is in UEFI Mode 
 a button Secure Boot Mode which is on standard. Anyway I did several 
 Boots of Windows, switched to Legacy F21 and back to Windows etc. In one of 
 my trials I could access in F21 Beta TC3 the Windows disk, but currently 
 there is this Error Message again. Possibly there is an influence of the 
 UEFI mode sometimes, in this case I would think it's a BIOS problem and not 
 F21. 
 But I didn't have a problem like that previously in F21 Alpha and Beta TC2. 
 Kind Regards
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- 
 Von: Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com
 An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases 
 test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Verschickt: Mo, 13 Okt 2014 2:21 pm
 Betreff: Re: F21 Beta TC3 refused to mount NTFS partition
 
 
  Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /run/media/joerg/Acer: Command-line `mount -t
  ntfs -o
  uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177
  /dev/sda4 /run/media/joerg/Acer' exited with non-zero exit status 14:
  Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
  Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt
  The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
  Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
  read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
 
  Is this a ok for F21 Beta TC3? Is the partition check in TC3 more detailed
  now and my Windows (currently shut down) really is in an unsafe state?
 
 Most likely your Windows is not shut down, because you have not disabled 
 'fast 
 restart' feature, as the error message suggests. Or have you?
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Re: can someone suggest why firefox is so $*^%*#^%* slow?

2014-09-27 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 07:36:19PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 10:44 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i am at my wit's end with firefox on my fedora rawhide system -- to
  say it's nad-grindingly slow would be charitable. just now, i tried
  clicking on another tab ... some 30 seconds later, i am still waiting
  for the tab to change, oh, wait, there it is.
  
watching any sort of youtube video is excruciating ... while audio
  is typically, i will frequently get *maybe* one frame change a second,
  i kid you not. i frequently get javascripts that are not responding,
  and i'm asked whether i want to wait for them.
  
is there *something* i can do to debug this? what firefox
  configuration settings should i be looking at? i'm willing to try
  anything because, at this point, firefox is utterly unusable. even
  something as simple as scrolling in a window is painfully slow.
  
oh, and i'm on a quad core i7, so i'm pretty sure horsepower isn't
  the problem.
 
 FWIW, I've been seeing some odd 'laggy' behaviour in F21 on my desktop
 lately, which does mostly seem to be in Firefox. I do have sixteen
 zillion tabs open, but I do that a lot and it's not happened before, and
 RAM isn't exhausted (I have 16GB, using about 8GB). I don't have Flash
 installed. Not had time to look into it in more detail yet, but it does
 seem like something squiffy is going on.
 
 The symptoms are basically that things like switching tabs, highlighting
 text, copy/pasting, or input appearing after I start to type lag by 1-3
 seconds, and sometimes presses/characters that occur within the lag time
 are lost.

I'm having problems with FF on Fedora 19 that just started recently,
maybe related, maybe not.  In my case, the entire desktop is
freezing--even the mouse cursor won't move for 5-10 seconds.  It
always seems to happen when opening a new blank tab in FF.
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Re: new f19/f20 images

2014-04-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:23:15PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
  Greetings.
 
  We have new f19/f20 images with openssl updated, and they appear to be
  default/live already.
 
  Were we waiting for some testing runs on them before announcing?
  (Which we should have done before making them live, imho)
 
  Or did that already happen?
 
  Did we want to do a full test cycle on them?
  Or just openssl related actions?
 
 Huh?
 
 Since when do we do something like this? Sounds like an over reaction to me.
 Installing (security) updates is the first thing you should do after
 installing anyway and besides who decided this and when?
 What are the criteria for doing updated images?

Live images can't be updated...
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Re: new f19/f20 images

2014-04-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 02:52:41PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:23:15PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
   Greetings.
  
   We have new f19/f20 images with openssl updated, and they appear to be
   default/live already.
  
   Were we waiting for some testing runs on them before announcing?
   (Which we should have done before making them live, imho)
  
   Or did that already happen?
  
   Did we want to do a full test cycle on them?
   Or just openssl related actions?
 
  Huh?
 
  Since when do we do something like this? Sounds like an over reaction to 
  me.
  Installing (security) updates is the first thing you should do after
  installing anyway and besides who decided this and when?
  What are the criteria for doing updated images?
 
  Live images can't be updated...
 
 1) They can
 2) Live images are not supposed be used for production ..

1) Sure if you have a persistent live image on a USB I suppose.  But
with CD/DVD media, you cannot update and then reboot as is necessary
to fix the issue.  You can manually restart all processes/services
that were linked against the old openssl I suppose, but you would have
to go through this dance after every single boot to remove this
vulnerability.

2) Live images could be used to rescue/repair a production
environment, or could be used as a client to access a production
environment.  For example one could be using curl which is linked
against the bad openssl.  We shouldn't leave our users exposed if they
decide to use a live image, especially since I don't think it is
documented anywhere that these images are unsuitable for use in a
production environment.

Additionally, I believe we should somehow clearly mark all the new
images so that we can easily tell if they are the updated ones or not.
Maybe call them Fedora releases 19.1 and 20.1.
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Re: new f19/f20 images

2014-04-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 03:11:38PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 02:52:41PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
   On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:23:15PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
   On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
Greetings.
   
We have new f19/f20 images with openssl updated, and they appear to be
default/live already.
   
Were we waiting for some testing runs on them before announcing?
(Which we should have done before making them live, imho)
   
Or did that already happen?
   
Did we want to do a full test cycle on them?
Or just openssl related actions?
  
   Huh?
  
   Since when do we do something like this? Sounds like an over reaction 
   to me.
   Installing (security) updates is the first thing you should do after
   installing anyway and besides who decided this and when?
   What are the criteria for doing updated images?
  
   Live images can't be updated...
 
  1) They can
  2) Live images are not supposed be used for production ..
 
  1) Sure if you have a persistent live image on a USB I suppose.  But
  with CD/DVD media, you cannot update and then reboot as is necessary
  to fix the issue.  You can manually restart all processes/services
  that were linked against the old openssl I suppose, but you would have
  to go through this dance after every single boot to remove this
  vulnerability.
 
 Which service do we install and run by default that uses OpenSSL and
 is configured to use SSL on the live media?
 - Answer is none.
 
  2) Live images could be used to rescue/repair a production
  environment,
 
 See above.
 
  or could be used as a client to access a production
  environment.  For example one could be using curl which is linked
  against the bad openssl.
 
 curl is a client.

Clients ARE affected:

http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/55119/does-the-heartbleed-vulnerability-affect-clients-as-severely

Does anaconda or yum use OpenSSL?  Because then yum updates and
liveinst are potentially affected.

Does libvirt/virt-manager/virt-viewer use OpenSSL?  Because I could
certainly see a sysadmin using a Live image to run
virt-manager/virt-viewer to connect over the network via SSL to a
hypervisor.

Do VNC/RDP clients use OpenSSL?  rdesktop is linked against an OpenSSL
library.  It may be possible to exploit it.

  We shouldn't leave our users exposed if they
  decide to use a live image, especially since I don't think it is
  documented anywhere that these images are unsuitable for use in a
  production environment.
 
 There are unsuitable by their very nature of being live images.

Why are we shipping unsuitable software then?
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Re: Gnome 3.10: Network UI missing from new system status area

2013-10-04 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 01:54:17PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 07:54 +0200, moshe nahmias wrote:
  I think that it must be possible to make the icon visible as an
  option. I use a cellular modem on my laptop and the easiest way to
  connect with it to the net is by clicking that icon...
  
  I guess that it's possible to connect from other places, but it won't
  be as easy.
 
 GNOME 3.10 has a combined system tray. Your cellular connection will be
 visible in it. (In other words, don't worry, it will work exactly how
 you expect it to). The change we're discussing applies only to boring
 plain wired ethernet connections.

Use Case #1 for having the wired connection icon show at all times is
to know when your network connection isn't working locally, as opposed
to some remote problem.  If you are connected to your LAN, the icon
would show connected, but if your WAN/Internet connection is down,
google.com will fail to connect.  This is the first question any tech
support person would ask the end user--does your computer show that it
is connected (do you have a link light on the NIC)?  We should be
making this determination easier, not harder.

Use Case #2 is for switching between different wired network
configuration profiles and turning multiple NICs on or off.

Why are we adding more and more functionality to NetworkManager, just
to take it away from the user interface?

I guess we'll need yet another GNOME Shell extension to fix this too.
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Re: Gnome 3.10: Network UI missing from new system status area

2013-10-04 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:17:03PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 01:54:17PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 07:54 +0200, moshe nahmias wrote:
   I think that it must be possible to make the icon visible as an
   option. I use a cellular modem on my laptop and the easiest way to
   connect with it to the net is by clicking that icon...
  
   I guess that it's possible to connect from other places, but it won't
   be as easy.
 
  GNOME 3.10 has a combined system tray. Your cellular connection will be
  visible in it. (In other words, don't worry, it will work exactly how
  you expect it to). The change we're discussing applies only to boring
  plain wired ethernet connections.
 
  Use Case #1 for having the wired connection icon show at all times is
  to know when your network connection isn't working locally, as opposed
  to some remote problem.  If you are connected to your LAN, the icon
  would show connected, but if your WAN/Internet connection is down,
  google.com will fail to connect.  This is the first question any tech
  support person would ask the end user--does your computer show that it
  is connected (do you have a link light on the NIC)?  We should be
  making this determination easier, not harder.
 
  Use Case #2 is for switching between different wired network
  configuration profiles and turning multiple NICs on or off.
 
  Why are we adding more and more functionality to NetworkManager, just
  to take it away from the user interface?
 
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708966 is the upstream bug
 ... if you have anything useful (i.e no flamebait) to add ad it there.

Thanks, done.
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can't login to rawhide nightly live images

2013-08-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
Are the nightly rawhide live images supposed to be login-able?  I
tried XFCE from the 7th and Desktop from the 4th, and cannot login
using root or liveuser on either, so they are unusable (unless someone
can tell me a secret way to break in--systemd.unit=rescue.target and
systemd.unit=emergency.target both require sulogin).

Fedora-20-Nightly-i686-Live-desktop-20130804.15-1.iso
Fedora-20-Nightly-i686-Live-xfce-20130807.10-1.iso
Fedora-20-Nightly-x86_64-Live-xfce-20130807.10-1.iso
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F17 yum/rpm not running groupadd in %pre scripts

2012-08-14 Thread Chuck Anderson
I ran into a comedy of errors today after I did a new F17 installation
yesterday.  Here are a couple:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848148
Error in PREIN scriptlet in rpm package wireshark-1.6.9-1.fc17.x86_64

(and why does yum still let the transaction succeed, creating problems
in the RPMDB, broken dependencies?)

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845671
Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777. when opening screen

(and why does systemd-tmpfiles completely fail to start when there is
a missing group--it should fail gracefully, allowing the other
tmpfiles stuff to run and the service as a whole to run)

Both of these are traceable to missing entries in /etc/group.  In the
former cae, there is an explicit Error in PREIN script during
instalation.  In the latter case, there is only a warning and
installation proceeds:

Running Transaction
  Installing : screen-4.1.0-0.9.20120314git3c2946.fc17.x86_64   1/1 
warning: group screen does not exist - using root
warning: group screen does not exist - using root

So what is going on with %pre not running groupadd properly?  Are there
any known issues in this area?

Thanks.
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Re: F17 yum/rpm not running groupadd in %pre scripts

2012-08-14 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 09:33:36PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Chuck Anderson wrote:
 
  I ran into a comedy of errors today after I did a new F17 installation
  yesterday.  Here are a couple:
  
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848148
  Error in PREIN scriptlet in rpm package wireshark-1.6.9-1.fc17.x86_64
  
  (and why does yum still let the transaction succeed, creating problems
  in the RPMDB, broken dependencies?)

Still need to file a bug on yum for this one.  yum should have failed
the transaction rather than allow a package to be installed with
missing deps.

 I believe your suspicions are correct.
 
 ...
  So what is going on with %pre not running groupadd properly?  Are there
  any known issues in this area?
 
 Maybe try running the scriptlet by hand?
 
 %pre
 /usr/sbin/groupadd -g 84 -r -f screen
 
 and and try to figure out why it fails on your box.

Already found the problem in selinux-policy:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=844167
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 17 Final Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2012-05-23 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 09:14:21AM -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 
  Installation:
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
 
  It looks like this page needs to be updated for RC4. (I remember that
  most RC3 results were supposed to be transferred so I didn't want to
  go change things from RC3 to RC4, but at list the download link should
  get updated.)
 
 I don't know why people are seeing outdated links. I updated all four
 redirect links, including this one (see the history on
 https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Test_Results:Current_Installation_Testredirect=no
 ) just before the announcement, it currently points to the RC4 page, and
 the download link on that is correct as well. The same was true the
 earlier time when someone said the link was wrong.
 
 P.S. Sorry for replying out of thread, but this message doesn't appear
 on Gmane.

I often see a cached copy of the test result pages, and need to do a
Ctrl-R to reload them before the new version shows up.  Is there a way
we can set a No-Cache header or something on them?
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Re: abrt backtrace failures

2012-05-23 Thread Chuck Anderson
This is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750616

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:06:20AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 During F17 RC testing, twice now [1][2] I've been unable to submit
 bugs using abrt because the backtrace was considered unusable by
 abrt.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-11-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:03:12PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 01:09 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
  As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Final Release Candidate 3
  (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
  download links (including delta ISOs) and testing instructions.
  Serverbeach1 is still available as a mirror (but with approximately a 1
  hour lag behind dl), so if you are getting a slow download, try
  replacing dl with serverbeach1 in the download URL.
  
  Installation:
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
  
  Base:
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test
  
  Desktop:
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
  
  Security Lab:
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test
  
  Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
  [2], Base [3], Desktop [4], and Security Lab [5] should pass in order to
  meet the Final Release Criteria [6]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
  irc.freenode.net [7], or on the test list [8].
 
 As mentioned before, we don't really need to re-do the whole set of
 tests, but it'd be good to get a few done just to make sure the RC3
 image hasn't gone horribly wrong somehow. The only things that should
 have changed are KDE and Xfce bug fixes. To check the KDE issue, install
 F15 from the KDE live spin then try upgrading with the F16 RC3 DVD; it
 should work.

Whether by luck-of-the-draw or not, efidisk.img appears correct
(i.e. non-zeroed content) in this release!
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Re: Pre RC4 install testing

2011-11-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 04:08:19PM -0600, Tim Flink wrote:
 I keep saying this but this will hopfully be the last test boot.iso for
 Fedora 16.
 
 http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/iso/2001_preRc4.x64.boot.iso
 http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/iso/2001_preRc4.x64.boot.iso.sha256
 
 The only thing in these isos that has an update at the moment is dracut:
  - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dracut-013-18.fc16
 
 The new kernel build that I used (3.1.0-7.fc16) doesn't have an update
 yet but should have one soon.
 
 The bugs that can be tested with this iso are:
  - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748516
* This iso has the new kernel build on it, should boot on EFI
  machines that were affected.
  - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750228
* I have no EFI machines to test with, let me know if the test iso
  has issues with the efidisk.img
  - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750603
* Kickstart File Path Ks Cfg [1]
 
 If you have the time, please give the image a whirl so that we can
 catch any issues (if there are any) before RC4 get spun up.

All looks good.  EFI USB w/efidisk.img, Legacy BIOS dd ISO to USB, new
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Re: RC status update - please pull livecd-tools-16.8 into buildroot

2011-10-31 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 03:56:37PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 El Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:26:45 -0700
 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com escribió:
  On Sun, 2011-10-30 at 10:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
   On Sun, 2011-10-30 at 11:58 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:11:07AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:53:10PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  Hey folks, just to let you know - I've requested an RC2 build:
  
  https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4967#comment:6
 
 Will this build be done with livecd-tools-16.8 so the livecd
 images pick up the fix for efi boot rd.* kernel args?  RC1
 didn't have it.

I see in the koji task that 16.6 was still in the buildroot
(root.log) despite 16.8 being in stable.  Can you please be sure
to pull 16.8 into the buildroot for future RC's?  Thanks.
   
   There won't necessarily *be* any future RCs, but I'll talk to dennis
   about it.
  
  We're going to a silent re-spin (so don't tell anyone!) of the RC2
  lives, using livecd-tools-16.8. It's a single pretty well-tested
  change so should be fine. Only impact is on the kernel parameters
  used when booting live via EFI. Should be up in 3hrs or so, will
  simply silently replace the existing RC2 live images.
 
 and its done. new images in place. please test.

Thanks for the re-spin!  Tested Live Desktop x86_64 both EFI and
non-EFI, works fine and fixes the kernel args.
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Re: RC status update

2011-10-30 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:53:10PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 Hey folks, just to let you know - I've requested an RC2 build:
 
 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4967#comment:6

Will this build be done with livecd-tools-16.8 so the livecd images
pick up the fix for efi boot rd.* kernel args?  RC1 didn't have it.

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Re: RC status update - please pull livecd-tools-16.8 into buildroot

2011-10-30 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:11:07AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:53:10PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  Hey folks, just to let you know - I've requested an RC2 build:
  
  https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4967#comment:6
 
 Will this build be done with livecd-tools-16.8 so the livecd images
 pick up the fix for efi boot rd.* kernel args?  RC1 didn't have it.

I see in the koji task that 16.6 was still in the buildroot (root.log)
despite 16.8 being in stable.  Can you please be sure to pull 16.8
into the buildroot for future RC's?  Thanks.

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Re: workspace background overlay

2011-10-15 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 06:46:57PM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote:
 I'm using the Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV515 and when using multiple  
 workspaces I am getting workspace 2 under workspace 1 in the overview 
 view.

 Switching between workspaces seems ok so apparently it's only happening  
 on workspace 1 view. Sometimes it's all workspaces stacked up, sometimes  
 only 1 over 2. and then I also get bits of application windows at the  
 top of the screen not disappearing. Look at the screenshot for more  
 details (you can see pidgin in the background, which is from workspace 
 2).

 Am I the only one getting this (seems the artifacts I had in F15 are  
 gone though)?

No, I was seeing it as well on Intel graphics, although I'm not seeing
it at the moment...
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Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-25 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 05:21:56PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 19:11 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
  Matthias Clasen writes:
   On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 14:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 09:12 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 Beware the gigantic gnome 3.1.92 update.  Something in this
 transaction broke the ability for me to log in at all via GDM.  You
 type your password, and hit enter, nothing happens.  Click Sign In
 button, nothing happens.

You are likely hitting a race in the a11y key event handling at session
end (the session being the login screen here). I've been seeing that
myself with .92. We're working on it.
   
   This should be fixed in at-spi2-atk-2.1.92-2.fc16. 
  
  
  I now have at-spi2-atk-2.1.92-2 (from Koji), but no joy--sorry to say.
  
 
 I need some information on what is hanging where, then. On my system, -2
 100% fixed a very reproducible hang after hitting Enter in the password
 entry. 
 
 You may be seeing something else that I cannot reproduce.

How can we help track this down?  Is the problem happening before or
after gnome-session is launched?  Would it help to trace
/etc/gdm/Xsession?

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Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-22 Thread Chuck Anderson
Beware the gigantic gnome 3.1.92 update.  Something in this
transaction broke the ability for me to log in at all via GDM.  You
type your password, and hit enter, nothing happens.  Click Sign In
button, nothing happens.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:15:47PM +, upda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 The following Fedora 16 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 
 
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/glib2-2.29.92-1.fc16,gnome-color-manager-3.1.92-2.fc16,gnome-packagekit-3.1.92-2.fc16,gnome-power-manager-3.1.92-1.fc16,glib-networking-2.29.92-1.fc16,gtk3-3.1.92-1.fc16,libsoup-2.35.92-1.fc16,dconf-0.9.1-1.fc16,gtk-doc-1.18-1.fc16,polkit-gnome-0.103-1.fc16,gnome-desktop3-3.1.92-1.fc16,json-glib-0.14.0-1.fc16,atk-2.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-themes-standard-3.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-menus-3.1.92-1.fc16,libwnck3-3.1.92-1.fc16,libgnome-keyring-3.1.92-1.fc16,libgdata-0.10.1-1.fc16,yelp-xsl-3.1.6-1.fc16,p11-kit-0.6-1.fc16,at-spi2-atk-2.1.92-1.fc16,at-spi2-core-2.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-keyring-3.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-online-accounts-3.1.91-1.fc16,gnome-screensaver-3.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-utils-3.1.92-1.fc16,gucharmap-3.1.92-1.fc16,pyatspi-2.1.91-1.fc16,sushi-0.1.92-2.fc16,aisleriot-3.1.92-1.fc16,file-roller-3.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-settings-daemon-3.1.92-1.fc16,nautilus-3.1.92-1.fc16,gdm-3.1.92-1.fc16,GConf2-3.1.92-1.fc16,seahorse-3.1.92-1.fc16,eog-3.1.92-1.fc16,clutt
 
er-1.8.0-1.fc16,clutter-gtk-1.0.2-4.fc16,cogl-1.8.0-1.fc16,libchamplain-0.12.0-1.fc16,yelp-3.1.4-1.fc16,gnome-session-3.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-documents-0.1.92-2.fc16,vinagre-3.1.92-1.fc16,vino-3.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-panel-3.1.92-1.fc16,orca-3.1.92-1.fc16,clutter-gst-1.3.14-2.fc16,libmx-1.3.1-2.fc16,gnome-games-3.1.92-1.fc16,gnome-applets-3.1.92-1.fc16,rygel-0.12.2-1.fc16,gnome-contacts-0.1.5.2-1.fc16,mutter-3.1.92-1.fc16,cheese-3.1.92-1.fc16,gobject-introspection-1.30.0-1.fc16,control-center-3.1.92-1.fc16,totem-3.1.92-1.fc16,simple-scan-3.1.91-1.fc16,rhythmbox-2.90.1-16.git20110829.fc16,gjs-1.29.18-1.fc16,gnome-user-docs-3.1.1-1.fc16,gnome-shell-3.1.92-1.fc16,caribou-0.3.92-1.fc16
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Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-22 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 09:39:20AM -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
 On 09/22/2011 09:12 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
  Beware the gigantic gnome 3.1.92 update.  Something in this
  transaction broke the ability for me to log in at all via GDM.  You
  type your password, and hit enter, nothing happens.  Click Sign In
  button, nothing happens.

 BZ?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740625

 Working great here with radeon graphics (RV630).
 
 What happens if you revert GDM?

I tried reverting a couple things (one at a time) but so far no luck:

gdm
gnome-session
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Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-22 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 02:05:20PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 09:12 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
  Beware the gigantic gnome 3.1.92 update.  Something in this
  transaction broke the ability for me to log in at all via GDM.  You
  type your password, and hit enter, nothing happens.  Click Sign In
  button, nothing happens.
 
 You are likely hitting a race in the a11y key event handling at session
 end (the session being the login screen here). I've been seeing that
 myself with .92. We're working on it.

Latest update to my bug report:

Choosing Not listed? and then typing my username/password works.

So at least there is a workaround :-)
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gnome network applet not showing multiple wireless networks

2011-09-20 Thread Chuck Anderson
I've noticed in Fedora 16 the Gnome network applet sometimes doesn't
show the other available wireless networks once you are associated to
one.  I've also noticed that the wireless on/off switch sometimes
doesn't appear.  Have other people seen this?
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Re: security update process failure

2011-09-06 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 08:57:01AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
   libcap provides posix capabilities support - fair question would be
 how to get a list of applications which use libcap stuff it provides.
 
   rpm -q -l libcap
 
  shows these are provided:
 
 /lib64/libcap.so.2
 /lib64/libcap.so.2.17
 /lib64/security/pam_cap.so
 /usr/sbin/capsh
 /usr/sbin/getcap
 /usr/sbin/getpcaps
 /usr/sbin/setcap
 
  One could troll all binaries on the system asking which ones employ
 libcap.so.2 using ldd - and perhaps egrep for calls to getcap and the
 like ...
 
  I suspect someone has or has written a tool to catalog these things -
 
  anyone?

repoquery --whatrequires libcap

To verify this update, I just ran the setcap and getcap commands and
checked their results.
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Re: security update process failure

2011-09-05 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 08:48:07AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 09/05/2011 08:44 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
  So, I guess what I'm asking is, is it ok to give +1 to any/all
  packages if they work at all/we don't notice any regressions, or do we
  have to actually test what they are supposed to fix? Thanks. 
 
 It is ok to +1 if you don't notice any regressions.  It would be very
 helpful to explicitly mention what you tested however.

Thanks. I just did a fedora-easy-karma run through most of the F14
critical-path updates and many non-critical ones as well.
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Re: security update process failure

2011-09-04 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 05:34:43PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 23:01 +0200, Karsten Hopp wrote:
  Hi !
  
  
  I'd call it a failure when a security update for a critical path package 
  gets stuck in 
  -updates-testing for 6 weeks. I'm talking about the F14 libcap update, 
  where only one 
  proventester cared to test the updated package and commented on it.
  Sure, it is only a minor security issue, but shouldn't security updates 
  have priority in 
  testing over any pet packages you have ?
  Security updates certainly take preference for me as I'm trying to get them 
  submitted as 
  early as possible. But when a package sits in -testing for such a long time 
  I need to ask 
  myself why I should bother with doing timely security updates at all.
 
 The problem is really that not enough people test old releases. Barely
 any proventesters are on F14. If you look it's hardly just your update
 that's waiting on karma, there are quite a few waiting for F14.
 
 I've had 'do f14 karma' on my todo list for about a week and a half, but
 f16 keeps eating the time.
 
 I've mentioned this several times and floated a few ideas to fix it (as
 have others), but they haven't really gone anywhere. I haven't seen any
 indication that FESCo (which defined the update requirements - it's not
 a QA thing) considers it a big problem.

I need guidance.  I've installed the F14 libcap from updates-testing.
I have no idea if it works or how to test it--it doesn't appear to
break anything as far as normal operation of my system.  Is that
good enough to give +1 karma to the package?  If not, it would be
helpful for the maintainer would put instructions in the update text
saying how to test the update.

So, I guess what I'm asking is, is it ok to give +1 to any/all
packages if they work at all/we don't notice any regressions, or do we
have to actually test what they are supposed to fix?

Thanks.
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Re: no recent F16 pushes

2011-09-04 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:57:12PM +, Andre Robatino wrote:
 Tom Horsley horsley1953 at gmail.com writes:
 
  I also note that I still have to use --skip-broken
  due to a load of stuff involving gnome control
  panel and evolution-data-server and wot-not. Seems
  like those problems have been there forever as well.
 
 kiilerix on #fedora-qa pointed out that you can work around some of the broken
 dependencies by disabling the updates-testing repo. By doing this I was able 
 to
 install some updates from the fedora repo, then doing a regular update managed
 to pull in a few more from updates-testing. So now for me yum check-update
 just lists
 
 empathy.x86_64  3.1.90.1-1.fc16  
 updates-testing
 evolution.x86_643.1.90-1.fc16
 updates-testing
 evolution-NetworkManager.x86_64 3.1.90-1.fc16
 updates-testing
 evolution-data-server.x86_643.1.90-1.fc16
 updates-testing
 evolution-help.noarch   3.1.90-1.fc16
 updates-testing
 gnome-keyring.x86_643.1.90-1.fc16
 updates-testing
 gnome-keyring-pam.x86_643.1.90-1.fc16
 updates-testing
 gnome-shell.x86_64  3.1.90.1-1.fc16  
 updates-testing
 seahorse.x86_64 3.1.90-1.fc16
 updates-testing

I just grabbed the few missing packages directly from koji:

folks-0.6.1-2.fc16.x86_64.rpm
gnome-panel-3.1.5-5.fc16.x86_64.rpm
gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-5.fc16.x86_64.rpm
nautilus-sendto-3.0.0-11.fc16.x86_64.rpm

and did:

yum update folks-0.6.1-2.fc16.x86_64.rpm gnome-panel-3.1.5-5.fc16.x86_64.rpm 
gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-5.fc16.x86_64.rpm 
nautilus-sendto-3.0.0-11.fc16.x86_64.rpm \*

These last few packages will hopfully appear on mirrors soon.
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Re: lldpad consuming up to 65% of cpu

2011-09-02 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 02:10:49PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 11:06 -0600, Peter Gueckel wrote:
  Adam Williamson wrote:
  
   so if you have anaconda installed, you can 
  probably
   just remove it, remove fcoe-utils and 
  lldpad, and be happy.
  
  I installed from alive CD, so I think that is 
  why anaconda is installed, and hence, with 
  it, as you said, all of the other stuff.
  
  I will uninstall as per your advice. Thanks 
 
 Looks like there's a couple of bugs for this too:
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701943
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701999

And:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720080
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btrfs-progs signed with F-15 GPG key [was F-16 Branched report: 20110831 changes]

2011-09-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 04:23:32PM +, Branched Report wrote:
 btrfs-progs-0.19-16.fc15
 
 * Fri Aug 05 2011 Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com 0.19-16
 - fix a typo
 
 * Fri Aug 05 2011 Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com 0.19-15
 - actually build btrfs-zero-log
 
 * Thu Aug 04 2011 Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com 0.19-14
 - bring btrfs-progs uptodate with upstream

Somehow this got built as a F-15 package but ended up in the F-16
Branched repo, signed by the F-15 GPG key which makes yum not happy
since it can't find the F-15 key.  Is there some reason why F-16
packages aren't being built for this package, and instead you are only
building F-15 and F-17 packages?  I think F-16 is inheriting the F-15
build and breaking the F-16 repo.


Downloading Packages:
warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 069c8460: 
NOKEY
Retrieving key from file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64


The GPG keys listed for the Fedora 16 - x86_64 repository are already 
installed but they are not correct for this package.
Check that the correct key URLs are configured for this repository.


Name: btrfs-progs
Version : 0.19
Release : 16.fc15
Architecture: x86_64
Install Date: (not installed)
Group   : System Environment/Base
Size: 1655725
License : GPLv2
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Fri 05 Aug 2011 10:14:55 AM EDT, Key ID 
b4ebf579069c8460
Source RPM  : btrfs-progs-0.19-16.fc15.src.rpm
Build Date  : Fri 05 Aug 2011 02:12:59 PM EDT
Build Host  : x86-05.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Relocations : (not relocatable)
Packager: Fedora Project
Vendor  : Fedora Project
URL : http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
Summary : Userspace programs for btrfs
Description :
The btrfs-progs package provides all the userpsace programs needed to create,
check, modify and correct any inconsistencies in the btrfs filesystem.

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which repos should be enabled in F16 Alpha?

2011-08-21 Thread Chuck Anderson
It seems the Fedora repo and the Updates Testing repo, but not the
Updates repo, are enabled for F16 Alpha.  What is strange is that I
enabled Updates (and disabled Updates-Testing) and got a bunch of
different updates from what is in Updates-Testing (which currently has
broken deps).

/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=1
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=1
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0
/etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates-testing.repo:enabled=0

I had to do this to get any Updates-Testing to install at all on
x86_64:

yum --skip-broken update \*.x86_64

The remaining updates that won't install are:

Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
1:control-center-3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
1:control-center-filesystem-3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
empathy-3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
evolution-3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
evolution-NetworkManager-3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
evolution-data-server-3.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
1:folks-0.6.0-2.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
gnome-contacts-0.1.2-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
gnome-keyring-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
gnome-keyring-pam-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
gnome-panel-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
libsocialweb-0.25.19-1.fc16.x86_64 from fedora
libsocialweb-keys-0.25.19-1.fc16.noarch from fedora
1:nautilus-sendto-3.0.0-7.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing
p11-kit-0.3-2.fc16.x86_64 from fedora
Error: Protected multilib versions: gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != 
gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-09 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 10:05:54AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
  As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3
  (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
  download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
  images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
  for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
  as that for install images, except with the trailing /Fedora/ replaced
  by /Live/.
 
 The only difference between RC2 and RC3 is that RC3 includes the
 libreport update which fixes
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692433 - reporting anaconda
 failures. Given the tight time before go/no-go tomorrow, I suggest we
 combine RC2 and RC3 test results: for RC3, please focus on testing
 things that haven't yet been filled in in the RC2 matrices, so between
 RC2 and RC3 we have all Alpha tests covered. And, of course, re-do the
 tests which hit 692433 in RC2 - most importantly,
 QA:Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_bugzilla . Thanks everyone!

I don't see how it can be a go if Live doesn't work without
enforcing=0:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863

I'm surprised RC3 was rushed so quickly with no resoution to this.  I
expect an RC4 will be necessary.
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Re: Heads up: impending IPv6 Test Day

2011-06-02 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 04:40:10PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 Is there an easy way I can set up IPv6 and a handful of machines on my
 LAN for testing, without requiring any IPv6 internet connection or an
 IPv6 assigned prefix?

Yes, every system automatically chooses a link-local address.

 The Linux machines on my LAN appear to have acquired IPv6 addresses, eg:
 
 $ ip addr show eth0
 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state 
 UNKNOWN qlen 1000
 link/ether 00:e0:81:74:02:28 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
 inet 192.168.0.128/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
 inet6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe74:228/64 scope link 
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

fe80:: are link local.  The hint is scope link.

 but pinging them gives me strange errors:
 
 $ ping6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe74:228/64
 unknown host
 $ ping6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe74:228
 connect: Invalid argument
 $ ping6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe74
 connect: Invalid argument

For using link local addresses, you need to specify the outgoing
network interface, because the addresses are global to the host, not
local to any one interface.  Otherwise, it would have no way of
knowing which interface to send the packets out of.  

Also, don't put the /nn, because that is the prefix length (equivalent
to the IPv4 subnetwork mask).

There are two ways typically to specify outgoing interface for link
local:

ping6 -I eth0 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe74:228

or:

ping6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe74:228%eth0

Some apps work with one vs. the other.

Another tidbit: for IPv6 literals like above, some applications
require you to put them in square brackets.  For example, web browsers
need this syntax:

http://[fe80::2e0:81ff:fe74:228%eth0]/

Support for %iface or [] syntax may not be universal, unfortunately.
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Re: RFE nm-connection-editor put back into nm-applet

2011-04-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 10:02:47AM -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
 With the new NetworkManager, to edit connections, I need to launch
 nm-connection-editor.  It would be nice to have that as an option in the
 nm-applet (like it used to be)
 -- 
 Brian Millett - [ Delenn (re: Japanese stone garden), The Gathering]
 On my world, there are books, thousands of pages, about the power of one
  mind to change the Universe. But none say it as clearly as this.

Right, I noticed on the F15 Live Beta TC1 that I cannot easily connect
to WPA2-Enterprise networks.  Clicking on the network in the network
icon doesn't do anything at all--no attempt to connect, no connection
editor dialog pops up, nothing.  Also, clicking Network Settings
doesn't have any way to edit the WPA2-Enterprise connection either.
The Options... button stays greyed out.

I had to go to overview mode to launch nm-connection-editor manually
just to be able to connect to the wireless network.

I think if a network requires more credentials to connect, the Gnome
Shell applet should pop up the connection editor, and/or the
Options... button on the network control panel should be active and
also launch nm-connection-editor.
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Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 09:44:03PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
 It is also useful to know how to rescue a failed X session after
 booting and in the middle of a graphical problem once logged in.
 
 On the old (current!) days you could switch also to a non-graphical VT
 and enter telinit 3 to go into runlevel 3 during a normal session or
 if X broke, and then reenable runlevel 5 by telinit 5. Is there going
 to remain an equivalent after f15 release - i.e. will switching to say
 VT 3 using the standard shortcut still be possible - and then I guess
 login as root and do systemctl stop prefdm.service and then systemctl
 start prefdm.service to reenable the graphical screen?

This is all documented here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd

systemctl isolate multi-user.target

(or)

systemctl isolate runlevel3.target 
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:32:07AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 2011/2/16 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
  That is a, ahem, policy decision.
 
 What? 8-| What's next? Shutdown option?

sarcasm
Excellent idea.  Who needs to shutdown when you can just 
suspend/hibernate?
/sarcasm

Actually though, I highly recommend reading the GNOME 3 Design 
documents before accusing the GNOME team of not doing their homework.

http://gnome3.org/
http://gnome3.org/faq.html
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/FAQ
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 03:45:30PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
 On 02/16/2011 02:26 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:32:07AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
  2011/2/16 Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com:
  That is a, ahem, policy decision.
  What? 8-| What's next? Shutdown option?
  sarcasm
  Excellent idea.  Who needs to shutdown when you can just
  suspend/hibernate?
  /sarcasm
 
  Actually though, I highly recommend reading the GNOME 3 Design
  documents before accusing the GNOME team of not doing their homework.
 
  http://gnome3.org/
  http://gnome3.org/faq.html
  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/FAQ
  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design
 
 I think it would be more meaningful to provide links to their actual 
 usability study/research then a links to their design/mockups and FAQ 
 for novice end users.

How about this:

http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/shell/design/GNOME_Shell-20090705.pdf

http://cgwalters.livejournal.com/25818.html

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Re: Gnome busted today?

2011-02-03 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 06:01:31PM -0500, Andy Lawrence wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Andy Lawrence dr.die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Updated to today's rawhide, just 10 minutes ago.  GDM comes up (without an
  option to boot into XFCE which worked yesterday), enter my pass the screen
  just goes black, nothing after.
 
  Mouse works/moves, VT switch works.  Don't see anything interesting in the
  logs, any help or suggestions on what to log or how to help ID?
 
  Thanks
  Andy
 
 
 Downgrading to:
 
 gdm-2.91.4-6.fc15.x86_64
 gdm-plugin-fingerprint-2.91.4-6.fc15.x86_64
 
 Restored proper operation.  I will BZ it.

Working here fine with 2.91.6-1.fc15.x86_65.  I am running with koji 
updates enabled, though.
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Re: NetworkManager connection priority - a question

2011-01-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 02:18:19PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  In principle this is about f14 (and all versions prior!) where I have
  tested this - but I suspect that these issues are also relevant to
  f15/rawhide unless changes have been made to the NM and/or
  wpa+supplicant code between f14 release and now - which I expect has
  not happened.  Hence this is likely to be relevant to f15 and to
  rawhide I expect?
 
 Maybe, maybe not. If you aren't testing it, how would you know? If you
 want to bring up a long-standing issue with NM's functionality, which
 affects users of current versions as well as (possibly) future ones, the
 appropriate place would seem to be the Users list. Since the Users list
 is also more populous than this one, you may also get more response.

Or the upstream NetworkManager list:

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list  
   
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Re: Specifying an IPv6 suffix

2010-11-04 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:22:03AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 I want to control the IPv6 suffix for my interfaces and let the prefix 
 be set with RA.
 
 Currently I can either have the RA prefix with the MAC address for the 
 suffix, or I can specify a complete IPv6 address (and gateway) and 
 ignore RA.
 
 The first approach causes problems with DNS if I change the interface.
 
 The second approach causes problems if I change the network prefix.
 
 Or I could implement DHCPv6, but would still have to change its content 
 if I change the MAC address.  And I don't want to ge the DHCPv6 approach 
 anyway.
 
 The way I want would be better :) but I don't see that it is supported.  
 My current systems are Centos 5.5 and FC12, so I am stuck, probably with 
 the world as it is, but at least with FC14, it would be nice

The best place to bring this up would be with the NetworkManager 
folks:

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list

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Re: SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline

2010-09-03 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote:
 it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour
 even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to
 enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and
 firefox worked ok.

Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to 
connect to the network?
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