Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-01 Thread Gerry Tool


  
  
On 09/01/2010 09:12 PM, Rodd Clarkson wrote:

  
  On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Adam
Williamson <awill...@redhat.com>
wrote:

  
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 11:00 +1000, Rodd
  Clarkson wrote:
  > Hi all,
  >
  > Why was kernel-2.6.34.x pushed to updates in f13 when
  three people had
  > reported suspend issues with the kernel and no
  attempt was made to
  > address these issues.
  >
  > see:  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615560
  >
  > I
  > Rodd
  

  
  Because there are always suspend issues, kernel team doesn't
  consider
  suspend problems a blocker for release.


  Sure, my problem lies not it that fact that there are suspend
  issues, but in that no attempt was even made to address the
  suspend issues.
  
  My system suspends and resumes fine on f13 with the 2.6.33
  kernels, so it isn't unreasonable to expect this functionality
  to continue on a stable release.
  
  It is however, perfectly reasonable to expect that having
  tried a kernel at the request of a fedora developer on
  fedora-test-list and then having filed a bug against said
  kernel reporting problems, that someone might actually have a
  few minutes required to actually ask a few more questions and
  try and address the problem.
  
  Otherwise, why did they ask for feedback if it was just to be
  ignored?
  
  
  Rodd

  

Updating to this kernel stops my F13
  system from booting.  I have had to revert to the former kernel. 
  I have tried it each day it is offered as an update with the same
  result all three times.
  
  If I can provide any particular useful information, let me know.
  
  Gerry Tool
  

  

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Re: Fedora 14 alpha installation scrambles disk ids

2010-08-31 Thread Gerry Tool


  
  
On 08/31/2010 04:03 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:

  On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:52 -0500, Gerry Tool wrote:

  
I have been trying to install F14 alpha.  When I do, the hard drives
are not identified as they have been in the past.  I have two hard
drives, one with 233GB and one with 149GB.  l have a number of
partitions on each drive with operating systems on them.  The 233GB
has always been identified as hd0 in the past.  F14 alpha insists it
is hd1 with the 149GB being hd0.  The dev ids are also messed up.  the
233GB has always been sda.  Now, F14 evidently starts the sd numbers
with one of the USB devices.  I have a multi-card reader hard-wired
inside the box, and it is apparently labelling its channels as sda -
sdd.  I have two external USB drives, which until I unplugged them
were being identified as sde, sdf, moving the first (formerly second)
harddrive up to sdg and the old sda to sdh.

If I let the installation proceed, it seems to succeed, but I can not
find a way to get the F14 alpha system to boot using my long-standing
boot loader setup controlled by my current F13 partition.  I have
tried

title Fedora 14 alpha 
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
chainloader +1

using a variety of (hdx,y) attempts, and have also tried several
variations of the grub.conf file in the new F14 alpha configuration.

  
  
Dunno if this will help, but during install when it gets to the grub
selection part, make sure it is the same hdd order as your bios has it
listed and you can change it there too.  

Mike




Thanks cornel and Mike for your answers. 
  I finally succeeded in an install that boots by making sure the
  install partition was really the one I wanted, and then making
  sure the drives were in the correct bios order.  I hope I will
  remember that in the future.
  
  Gerry
  

  

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Fedora 14 alpha installation scrambles disk ids

2010-08-30 Thread Gerry Tool
I have been trying to install F14 alpha.  When I do, the hard drives are not
identified as they have been in the past.  I have two hard drives, one with
233GB and one with 149GB.  l have a number of partitions on each drive with
operating systems on them.  The 233GB has always been identified as hd0 in
the past.  F14 alpha insists it is hd1 with the 149GB being hd0.  The dev
ids are also messed up.  the 233GB has always been sda.  Now, F14 evidently
starts the sd numbers with one of the USB devices.  I have a multi-card
reader hard-wired inside the box, and it is apparently labelling its
channels as sda - sdd.  I have two external USB drives, which until I
unplugged them were being identified as sde, sdf, moving the first (formerly
second) harddrive up to sdg and the old sda to sdh.

If I let the installation proceed, it seems to succeed, but I can not find a
way to get the F14 alpha system to boot using my long-standing boot loader
setup controlled by my current F13 partition.  I have tried

title Fedora 14 alpha
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
chainloader +1

using a variety of (hdx,y) attempts, and have also tried several variations
of the grub.conf file in the new F14 alpha configuration.

How can I tame this mess?

Thanks,

Gerry Tool
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