Re: Password security

[Gregory Woodbury]

This is just the latest symptom that Fedora and RedHat are showing of
a disease I call "beating Microsoft at their own game."

The main symptom is removing choice and forcing admins and users to do
things the way the company wants you to do it. "Things will LOOK this
way!  Things will WORK that way!"
It is as if someone has decided that Fedora / RedHat will be as simple
to install and use as Windows and will look as much like it as
possible.

If I wanted a locked down (and bug-ridden) OS for my computer I would
just go ahead and use Microsoft.
I choose Linux because I want choice, power and flexibility, and the
advantages that open source supplies.

In either case, a computing mono-culture is not advantageous for
anyone except the corporation(s) controlling that mono-culture.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
>
> On 03/02/2015 05:16 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Obviously when installing F22 now, you have that new password security
>> level to make you jump through hoops to set a password during install.
>> I understand the reasoning for "secure" passwords, but there is one
>> catch.
>
>
> What will happen is that a single (or small subset) of passwords will be
> used for root during install (Fedora_Project works fine, you don't have to
> add the 123 at the end).  User ID setup will be done with admin rights and
> no password required.  Then after install is complete, passwd would be used
> to set up a 'regular' password for root and the user.
>
> Meanwhile the system is on the net with a known root password and maybe a
> knowable user ID for N minutes with SSH up and running and open.  What is
> the exposure.
>
> Besides SSH what other attack vector exists until the passwords are reset?
>
>>
>> *I* am the admin at my house hold, and *I* am the admin at my company
>> (scenario speaking), and *I* set how secure I want passwords set at
>> those locations, not *you*.  I will determine how tough I want my
>> systems, I don't need any hand holding, nor help.
>>
>> And in reality, we don't have a lot of kids, grandmas, grandpas,
>> careless operators, typical window users using these systems as normal
>> everyday workstations like window users, so they aren't going to
>> experience the same issues.
>>
>> Linux is not like windows, it doesn't have the same type system, so the
>> same type things won't hurt it.  Most stuff that will get hurt, stolen
>> from, hacked, whatever is online stuff such as banks, credit cards
>> stuff, etc..
>>
>> In other words, give us the tools to help get people in the right
>> direction, but don't try to turn the wrench as well.  That's up to use
>> to get it how tight we want.  Whether it falls apart or not, is on us.
>>
>>
>> Besides that, I changed that crap back to what I wanted in the first
>> place after the install.  So your security was breached off the bat.
>> Please get rid of it and set it back to like before.
>>
>> Thanks and have a good day,
>>
>>
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Andre Robatino
wrote:

> As per the Fedora 15 schedule [1], Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 2
> (RC2) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
> download links and testing instructions.
>
>

> F15 Final Blocker tracker bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=617261
>

"X fails to start" is NOT fixed in the RC2 image (DVD install).
Did someone not arrange to push the dconf fix?

[next: a netinst.iso install.]

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Re: Karma needed for anaconda-15.29-1.fc15

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:16 PM, James Laska  wrote:

> On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 13:33 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> > Greetings testers,
> > http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/updates/anaconda-15.29-1/
>

Downloading now.
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XFCE Nightly compose (2011-04-20) won't boot in VBox guest, and other spin comments

[Gregory Woodbury]

Testing the XFCE nightly compose dated the 20th:
  The live image boots and throws up a splash screen, but goes into a
paroxysm
of doing something @100% CPU and no login options (2 minutes.)

The KDE and LXDE spins don't want to apply updates-testing properly with a
complaint
about gnome-desktop and ibus-libs.i686 (on a 64-bit platform.)

Waiting for mirrors to sync up in the new updates before trying again.

and Rawhide is suffering from X server crashes as noted by several others.

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Re: Virtualbox upgrade fedora 14 to 15 RC 2 -- video driver ABI error

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Joshua Andrews wrote:

> The upgrade seemed to go okay but on restarting xorg rejects the vboxvideo
> module so I can't even start complaining about GNOME 3 yet!
>
> The error is something like module is ABI (9) server is ABI (10).
>
> I rebuilt the module a couple of times but it's always the same error.
>
> I don't know enough about that to even try fixing it myself.
>

Goto virtualbox.org and get the 4.0.5 pre-release for FC15

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Re: FC15 most recent selinux denies shutdown/restart (nightly 2011-04-12)

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Daniel J Walsh  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 04/13/2011 03:30 PM, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > Test installs and updates in VBox guests are denied permission to
> > shutdown or restart
> > by the latest SELinux policy.
> >
> > setenforce permissive allows shutdown and restart to occur.
> >
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> What policy version?
>

3.9.14-16 already in bugzilla

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FC15 most recent selinux denies shutdown/restart (nightly 2011-04-12)

[Gregory Woodbury]

Test installs and updates in VBox guests are denied permission to shutdown
or restart
by the latest SELinux policy.

setenforce permissive allows shutdown and restart to occur.

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Re: BETA.RC2 LXDE Live spin install report: yumex won't run

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Gregory Woodbury wrote:

> Test installs of the various BETA.RC2 live spins into VBox guests.
>
> Desktop: OK
> KDE:  OK
> LXDE:OK, but yumex won't run
> XFCE:InProgress
>
> the yumex run failure is BZ#695144
>

XFCE:   OK

All the beta.rc2 images have now been tested by me.  Only one small nit in
the LXDE and a boot problem
in the netinst install due to a mirror sync problem.

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BETA.RC2 LXDE Live spin install report: yumex won't run

[Gregory Woodbury]

Test installs of the various BETA.RC2 live spins into VBox guests.

Desktop: OK
KDE:  OK
LXDE:OK, but yumex won't run
XFCE:InProgress

the yumex run failure is BZ#695144

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Re: FC15 Beta.RC1 install test report (not covered in wiki lists)

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:40 PM, James Laska  wrote:

> On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 14:14 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > Installing from the Beta.RC1 dvd iso into a VBox VM:>
>


>  coming next: netinst install
>
> This will cover several of the tests listed in the install matrix ...
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test#Boot_Iso
>

  updated.

  Everything works as expected.
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FC15 Beta.RC1 install test report (not covered in wiki lists)

[Gregory Woodbury]

Installing from the Beta.RC1 dvd iso into a VBox VM:
XFCE selection leads to missing dependencies (non-fatal)

 Installed system will not boot,
tried enforcing=0 and selinux=0, errir in tmpfs usage.

coming next: netinst install

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F15 BETA.TC1 experiences

[Gregory Woodbury]

Downloaded BETA.TC1 x86_64 DVD.iso and did an install on a VBox guest.

No glitches encountered during the install.

One nit: NetworkManager isn't activated during the install so firstboot
isn't
  network connected for the NTP setup dialogue.

Looks good to me.

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Re: Today's GNOME pathologies

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Jonathan Corbet  wrote:

> So I just updated my Rawhide system.  Items noticed in the first few
> minutes:
>
>  - Blinking cursors are on everything and cannot be turned off.  I *hate*
>   blinking cursors.  They make me Grumpy.
>
>  - Lots of icons are missing.  The "system settings" dialog is now mostly
>   text.
>
>  - Setting the background no longer works; it is pure black.
>
> Obviously something has gone a little funky somewhere; or is it only me?
>

Not only you.

My ongoing rawhide guest shows these symptoms.
A new rawhide guest (f15 -< rawhide via yum) does not.
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Nightly builds in abeyance?

[Gregory Woodbury]

The nightly composes havent been updated since the 15th.

http://alt.fedoraproject.org:/pub/alt/nightly-composes

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Re: [Test-Announce] Preupgrade Test Day Tomorrow(Mar 17)

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Gregory Woodbury wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM, He Rui  wrote:Let me
> point to Bugzilla #684054.
>
> The F-14 preupgrade isn't patched yet, where can we find a fixed one?
>
> Nevermind. I read the Wiki and found the koji pointer.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Preupgrade Test Day Tomorrow(Mar 17)

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM, He Rui  wrote:

> Greetings everyone,
>
> Preupgrade test day is coming up tomorrow! It's available at:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Current
>
> As you've noticed that install.img is included in initrd.img From F-15
> builds, the procedure of  preupgrade need be changed accordingly.
> Therefore, packages with patches to make it working are prepared for
> testing on this test day. So testers, if you used to upgrade your system
> by preupgrade or are interested in it, feel free to join this test day
> tomorrow. Remember to post your results on wiki and discuss your
> problems in #fedora-test-day(freenode).
>

Let me point to Bugzilla #684054.

The F-14 preupgrade isn't patched yet, where can we find a fixed one?

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Re: Errors in GNOME installer for 2011-03-15 builds

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:15 PM, David Lehman  wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 15:18 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > This is rather awkard as the format checkbox is below the mount point
> box.
>
> You shouldn't get the warning until you click on 'OK', so I don't
> understand how this is awkward. Can you elaborate?
>

My awkardness, it is after ok.


>
> > Are we going to recommend a seperate /home?  Should the default layout
> make
> > a /home?
>
> We do default to creating a separate /home when doing automatic
> partitioning.
>

Not currently.





 If you don't want to lose /home do not put it on the same device
> as /. /home is for user data, while / is for system data. Keep it

separate for simplicity of management.


In most cases I do have home seperate.  But when doing many installs for
testing in
virtual boxes I've not seen /home be seperate in the current cycle.

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Re: Errors in GNOME installer for 2011-03-15 builds

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Tim Flink  wrote:

> On 03/16/2011 11:36 AM, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > No traceback or messages that I can see, just a notification that i can't
> > put
> > a partition on root.
>
> Just to re-iterate (and slightly rephrase) what James said: I believe
> that the change to anaconda was to disallow assigning '/' to a partition
> that was not being formatted during the installation process. If the
> partition was previously formatted, you wouldn't be able to mount it as
> '/' unless you reformat it as part of the install.
>
> Are you using custom or auto partitioning?
>
> Are you using pre-existing partitions/logical volumes? If so, does
> deleting and re-creating those partitions work (assuming you can do so)?
>

Yes, it is wanting the partition formatted before letting it be assigned to
root.

This is rather awkard as the format checkbox is below the mount point box.
Are we going to recommend a seperate /home?  Should the default layout make
a /home?

This is, IIRC the second go around on forcing the root to be formatted.
What if /home is
in the root and you don't want to lose it!   Last time we got a notification
that the partition
ought to be formatted, unless there are home directories or something you
want to keep.

FC13 has this notification, 15 lost it and now wants to force formatting.

Two steps back and 1/2 step forward.

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Re: Errors in GNOME installer for 2011-03-15 builds

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM, James Laska  wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 12:10 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > 1) The boot.iso netinstall fails with an anaconda error about unique uuid
> > for disks.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684742
>
> > 2) The nightly compose for 3/15 won't allow a partition to be assigned to
> > root.
>
> Do you get a traceback or other failure?  I seem to recall a recent
> [proposed] installer fix that wouldn't let you assign '/' to an
> unformatted partition.  Not sure if that's related.
>

No traceback or messages that I can see, just a notification that i can't
put
a partition on root.
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Re: F15 alpha problem.

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 11:51 -0400, James Laska wrote:
> > > A side question, does this mean that gnome3 requires hardware
> accelerated graphics?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> No. =)
>
> It's kind of a definition issue. GNOME *Shell* requires acceleration.
> But technically GNOME 3 does not; the fallback interface is still
> considered to be 'GNOME 3'. So you do need acceleration to get the Shell
> interface that's the 'big new thing' in GNOME 3, but still, if you don't
> have acceleration and you get the fallback interface instead, what
> you're running is still GNOME 3. Just GNOME 3's fallback interface.
>

In any case, VBox with 3d accelleration enables and 128MB for video memory
is not sufficient for GShell.  (VBox 4.0.4)

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Errors in GNOME installer for 2011-03-15 builds

[Gregory Woodbury]

1) The boot.iso netinstall fails with an anaconda error about unique uuid
for disks.

2) The nightly compose for 3/15 won't allow a partition to be assigned to
root.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha RC1 Available Now!

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Andre Robatino
wrote:

> Fedora 15 Alpha RC1 is now available [1].  Please refer to the following
> pages for download links and testing instructions.
>
> Installation:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
>
> Desktop:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
>
> Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for installation [2] and desktop
> [3] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria [4]. Help is
> available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [5], or on the test list [6].
>
> [1]
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html
> [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
> [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
> [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Alpha_Release_Criteria
> [5] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
> [6] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
>

Downloaded both x86_64 images and tested netinstall on VBox (discovered it
was looking for a
missing .treeinfo in the repository).  went fine. more testing later.
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FC15 TC2 Install failure

[Gregory Woodbury]

TC2 DVD desktop image boots and starts the install.

The install fails with hugin missing a dependency on pano and won't continue

Netinst reports that the local mirror doesn't contain an install image and
halts

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Re: fc15 TC1 isos

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, James Laska  wrote:

>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test+AF8-Results:Current+AF8-Installation+AF8-Test
>
> That page doesn't exist.
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nightly-compose install attempt 20110205

[Gregory Woodbury]

Downloaded the fresh nightly desktop compose for 2011.02.05 (x86_64) to
install to a virtual machine.

gdm-greeter goes into an infinite loop of fail/restart never allowing a
login

going in via runlevel 3 and doing a startx brings up a useable desktop

attempting "install to hard drive" results in a "not a live image" error.

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Rawhide install report: anaconda doesn't think it's a live image

[Gregory Woodbury]

The install to disk link on the nightly compose image (1/26/2011) don't
work.

I suspect that the use of udisk is confusing anaconda into thinking it's not
on a
live image and it throws up an error box.

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plymouthd error in rawhide

[Gregory Woodbury]

in rawhide in a x8664 virtual machine plymouthd spits a bug out on the
console
about halfway through the progress bars:

plymouthd: cannot  log startup: address already in use


Also the latest kernel in rawhide crashes on startup.

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Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Gregory Woodbury wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Christoph Frieben <
> christoph.frie...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2011/1/19 Gregory Woodbury:
>> > 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing
>> /usr/bin/hal-lock
>>
>> Run 'yum install /usr/bin/hal-lock'. You will be prompted to install
>> the corresponding package, and liveinst then allows to install the
>> system successfully. ~C
>>
>
> That does indeed let the system install successfully.
>
> 1) Firstboot does not get run properly after reeboot
> 2) gdm still goes into paralasis of fail/restart so one can't log in
> graphically
> 3) login on a text console works and using mode3 and startx brings up a
> useable desktop
>

Additionally, plymouthd throws an error durring bootup: cannot log bootup,
address already in use.

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Re: rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Christoph Frieben <
christoph.frie...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 2011/1/19 Gregory Woodbury:
> > 3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing
> /usr/bin/hal-lock
>
> Run 'yum install /usr/bin/hal-lock'. You will be prompted to install
> the corresponding package, and liveinst then allows to install the
> system successfully. ~C
>

That does indeed let the system install successfully.

1) Firstboot does not get run properly after reeboot
2) gdm still goes into paralasis of fail/restart so one can't log in
graphically
3) login on a text console works and using mode3 and startx brings up a
useable desktop

4) NFS is not part of the default system (personal nitpick)
5) vim is not on the default system (personal preference)

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rawhide install attempts fail - missing /usr/bin/hal-lock

[Gregory Woodbury]

Trying to install from the nightly compose desktop spin:
1) direct booting fails as gdm goes into a paroxysm of fail/restart and just
flashes the screen.
2) booting into mode 3 and doing a startx brings up a useable desktop
3) /usr/bin/liveinst fails with an error report of missing /usr/bin/hal-lock

giving up for the night.

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Re: tty errors Booting Nightly Compose: desktop-x86_64-20101120.20.iso

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:26:53 -0500,
>  Kyle McMartin  wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 08:08:19AM -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote:
> > > desktop-x86_64-20101120.20.iso
> > >
> > > (2) Acer Aspire One:
> > > Boot & Basic Video:
> > > Boots with progress bar  gdm has black background, No desktop
> background.
> > > abrt:kernel oops
> > >  warning: at drivers/char/tty_io.c:1325 tty_open+0x298/0x495()
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630464
>
> I have been seeing black backgrounds for gdm and missing desktop
> backgrounds.
> It seems to be somewhat random and with the other issues I have been having
> its hard to get time to properly report everything. I think this issues may
> correlate with the windows leaving a trail bug I reported. But with stuff
> not happening consistently it's hard to tell for sure.
>

Same symptomology noted here.  Kernel oops reported.
Additionally, some component of nautilus is not running by default, the
right click desktop
menu does not appear by default; running nautilus into the background from a
terminal
window "cures" the problem.

This is from a parallel installation of rawhide fully updated to 2010-11-27.

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Re: F14 Flag Day Breaks Pan Newsreader

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
wrote:

>
> Pan on Ubuntu 10.10 is downloading the very same posting that
> Fedora can't get with no difficulty.
>
> Something in the "bowels" of Fedora 14 is causing two different programs
> to corrupt data.  I wonder what else is being corrupted in F14.
>
> It is unique o your machine apparently.  I'm using pan to get multi-part
binary postings
everyday with absolutely no trouble.

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Re: Fresh install, no network

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 23:36 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > Does the driver happen to be the e1000e intel driver?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I have an instability problem with that one.
>
> That's odd because F13 has never given me any trouble. What kind of
> instability and is there a fix?
>
It is basically what you are describing, the boot sequence shows it
"bouncing" the connection attempts.

I filed BZ 635312 two weeks ago.  Add your comments to that bug.
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Re: Fresh install, no network

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> I just did a fresh install of F14-RC1 (i.e. the gold version, x86_64)
> with default options and have no network. My F13 system on the same h/w
> and net had no problems. This is a bog-standard wired Ethernet using
> DHCP to a Belkin hub. The net itself is fine as other machines can
> connect, but F14 is dead. The "Edit Connections" dialogue is completely
> normal, IPv4, DHCP for everything etc.
>
> Attempting to run nm-applet gives a mysterious message about "Could not
> get the session bus". It then dumps core.
>
> This is about as uncomplicated a setup as it's possible to imagine, and
> yet it doesn't work out of the box. I hate to carp about free software,
> but how can this not have been caught in testing? (Yes I know, but we
> don't all have the time and resources to test the new stuff before
> release)


Does the driver happen to be the e1000e intel driver?

I have an instability problem with that one.
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Having looked at the real pungi, what do y'all use to make kickstart files?

[Gregory Woodbury]

Hving given up on Revisor, I looked at pungi.py and stuff and see that it
really wants a kickstart file?

Are these the kickstart files in the spins-ks package (whatever its real
name is)?

Is there currently a tool to make kickstart files?

Thanks for any guidance.

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Revisor - I give up :-(

[Gregory Woodbury]

I've beaten my head against revisor for two days now, actually patching
python code
and examinig debug output.  I'm retired from programming on disability for a
good
reason, my head hurts (bad) and I'm depressed and confused.

the problem I'm having is from anaconda changes that the packaged revisor
versions
haven't tracked.  14.x anaconda is putting stuff in different places from
fc13 and I
can no longer quite fathom the details (frustration anyone?)

I've added commentary to an existing revisor bug in bugzilla, but that looks
like
it's being ignored.  I'd nominate it for a blocker,but I know that revisor
isn't important
enough to warrent such drama.

Someone let me know when revisor is useful again.

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Re: Revisor bug? the .discinfo file is missing in action

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Gregory Woodbury 
> wrote:
> > I've been playing around with revisor/pungi/etc...
> >
> > Everything works up to the point of starting to write the iso file, when
> > it errors out with a missing .discinfo file.
> >
> > Is there a simple missing step to generate this file?
> > I'm sure that Jesse Keating and others in the rel-eng team are using this
> > program
> > so what's wrong?
>
> I have been running pungi inside mock chroot since f11 days with no
> issues.  I have a build machine doing this running f12 just fine at
> the moment.  Are you using f13?  Are you running pungi in the machine
> directly or inside a mock chroot?  Some while ago I posted the way I
> set my system up to do this - but maybe you are using a different
> technique.  Revisor is different to pungi though and I don't use that
> package!
>
> I guess it will need some detail of how you are actually setting things
> up..
>

I've tried both f13 and F14 (without chroots) running against a local mirror
of
rawhide.  Just did a "yum install revisor" as root and going forward.

For some reason, the .discinfo file is either not being copied or is simply
missing from the repository.

I'd  like to see your setup instructions again.

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Re: Revisor bug? the .discinfo file is missing in action - try two

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Gregory Woodbury wrote:

> I've been playing around with revisor/pungi/etc...
>
> Everything works up to the point of starting to write the iso file, when
> it errors out with a missing .discinfo file.
>
> Is there a simple missing step to generate this file?
> I'm sure that Jesse Keating and others in the rel-eng team are using this
> program
> so what's wrong?
>
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Revisor bug? the .discinfo file is missing in action

[Gregory Woodbury]

I've been playing around with revisor/pungi/etc...

Everything works up to the point of starting to write the iso file, when
it errors out with a missing .discinfo file.

Is there a simple missing step to generate this file?
I'm sure that Jesse Keating and others in the rel-eng team are using this
program
so what's wrong?

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Re: Testing f14 anaconda

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, mike cloaked wrote:

> There is currently version anaconda-14.20-1.fc14 in updates-testing
> but I seem to be the only one who has tested it ( At least according
> to bodhi comments) .  It would be nice if this could be pushed into
> the main f14 repo so that it is included in the F14 builds ahead of
> release.
> 
> Then I used the script from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bcl
> i.e. the file "upd_bootiso" referenced from that web page, and
> executed it with the new anaconda rpm downloaded from a mirror for f14
> updates-testing so that a new boot.iso was written containing the new
> anaconda. This gave a file new-boot.iso in /tmp/ which I renamed back
> to boot.iso to be used as the test install file.
> 



> If anyone else can run a test then presumably with karma +2 the new
> anaconda package would get used in the next compose for rc ahead of
> GA?
>
> Would be nice if someone else could test for an install.
>

Just did an install from an updated TC1.1 image on my x86_64 box, flawless!

Add karma in bohdi.

Thanks for the notes on updating the iso image.

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Re: F14 Release TC1.1 install report

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:12 PM, James Laska  wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 17:26 -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > Perfect install via hd iso image and munging the f13 grub lines.
> >
> > No errors except ones already reported (e1000e instability and
> > pata_it821x bypass)
> >
> > updates-testing applied fine after install.
> >
> > looking good.
> >
> > x86_64 real hardware.
>
> Thanks for the feedback Gregory.  We're still missing a few test results
> against TC1.1.  If you have a moment, can I encourage you to record your
> HD ISO install result on the wiki [1] under General tests.  The test
> case designed to validate your HD ISO install is
> QA/TestCases/InstallSourceHardDrive [2].
>

Done, also Install to PATA device is covered.

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F14 Release TC1.1 install report

[Gregory Woodbury]

Perfect install via hd iso image and munging the f13 grub lines.

No errors except ones already reported (e1000e instability and pata_it821x
bypass)

updates-testing applied fine after install.

looking good.

x86_64 real hardware.
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Re: fake Final TC1?

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:01 AM, James Laska  wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 06:41 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote:
> > On 10/10/10 03:13, Andre Robatino wrote:
> > > There's a build labeled TC1 at
> > >
> > > http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14.TC1/
> > >
> > > I know this probably isn't the real TC1, since that's scheduled for
> October 12,
> > > but what happens when the real one arrives? Will it replace this one in
> the
> > > exact same directory? Will this one remain and the new one be labeled
> TC2?
> > >
> >
> > What I understand from jlaska is that these will be overwritten with new
> > ISOs.
>
> Indeed.  The images created for the scheduled 'acceptance test run' [1]
> were incorrectly named 'TC1'.  These images are available for testing,
> but are *not* intended as the TC1 images which are scheduled to arrive
> later this week.
>

For what it's worth, they install fine. :-)

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Re: Harddisk installation fails

[Gregory Woodbury]

I was getting this failure on a harddisk install until I removed an
extraneous
.iso image in the directory holding the dvd .iso.

It seems that anaconda is a bit simple when it comes to the hd install, and
doesn't know anything about the names of the images, just the .iso
extensions.

Anaconda should have the "Harddsik" repository option in its repo select
menu
but the maintainers have opted not to include it.

It would also be nice to see anaconda being able to pull from a
fully-expanded
hard disk repo in addition to the ISO images, but the maintainers have opted
to not
implement that feature.

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broken f13 update?

[Gregory Woodbury]

[...@wolves ~]$ sudo yum update
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kdepim.x86_64 6:4.4.6-2.fc13 set to be updated
---> Package kdepim-libs.x86_64 6:4.4.6-2.fc13 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.4.6 for package:
6:kdepim-libs-4.4.6-2.fc13.x86_64
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: 6:kdepim-libs-4.4.6-2.fc13.x86_64 (updates-testing)
   Requires: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.4.6
   Installed: 6:kdelibs-4.4.5-1.fc13.x86_64 (@updates)
   kdelibs4(x86-64) = 4.4.5-1.fc13
   Available: 6:kdelibs-4.4.2-4.fc13.x86_64 (fedora)
   kdelibs4(x86-64) = 4.4.2-4.fc13
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
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Re: F14 Beta RC2 comments

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

>
> Try booting all three a few times. It could simply be an intermittent
> bug which you happened to see on one but not the other. I think all the
> relevant packages are the same between DVD and netinst, so it would be
> odd for to happen on one but not the other.
>

It's definitely intermittent.  I finally got an RC2 install done after 7
attempts.
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Re: F14 Beta RC2 comments

[Gregory Woodbury]

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel
wrote:

> On 09/19/2010 10:47 AM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
> >> In RC1 the anaconda has eliminated the screen to select where to put the
> >> boot loader,
>


> There is also an opportunity to specify the location on the grub
>  installation screen as well as the BIOS drive order.
>
> Spotted it in its usual place. May have overlooked it earlier.

Having found a mostly reliable workaround for the FlushCache problem,
the installer for RC2 is now booting without recognizing mouse clicks.
ABout 2/3 of the time it will move the mouse pointer but won't accept any
button presses.

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F14 Beta RC2 comments

[Gregory Woodbury]

The F14 Beta Release Candidate 2 is not ready for primetime

Ar boot, there is no menu or graphics, just a command line saying press
Enter to start boot process. (disc 1)

BZ 634791 is now a blocker for my machine.  Anaconda or something is sending
FlushCache commands and
making the installation fail.

In RC1 the anaconda has eliminated the screen to select where to put the
boot loader,
automatically overwriting the /dev/sda F13 installation with a non-operative
GRUB.
This requires the use of a rescue mode to re-install the F13 loader.

To echo another post here recently, I'm not impressed by the current F14
quality.

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Firstboot fails to run after Beta TC1 CD installation - test case needed?

[Gregory Woodbury]

I did an install from CDs and it ran well all the way to the installation of
grub and rebooting.
Firstboot, howeve, failed to run and make the user entries.

Bugzilla: 632880

SHould there be a test case for fistboot in the test results template?

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