Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:31 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > There are some high-profile types of applications that I considered > including in the list above, but didn’t in the end: > > * word editor (e.g. libreoffice-writer) > > * spreadsheet editor (e.g. libreoffice-calc) > > * video player (e.g. totem) > > * help viewer (e.g. yelp) > Sorry for the late reply -- it's been a busy month. I'd just like to add that I'm +1 for to the proposal, with the exception of excluding the help viewer (e.g. yelp). I think testing to make sure the help browser works is vital. -Jared ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > We have a proposal to add a fourth criterion for the > Go/No-Go decision, beginning with F29 Final: > > 4. The release announcement post for Fedora Magazine is substantially > complete > I'm torn on this one... I think the release announcement should be done before the release (with time to properly review it, etc.). That being said, I'm afraid that all this proposal will do is shift the last-minute scramble to the Go/No-Go meeting itself. I'd rather look for a solution that fundamentally makes the situation better, rather than just shifting the timing. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to come up with a better proposal :-( -Jared ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Blocking criteria proposal for F30+: Printing
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:40 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I'd like to propose that we add the following criteria to Beta for Fedora > 30+: > * Printing must work on at least one printer available to Fedora QA. > > and this to Final for Fedora 30+: > * Printing must work on at least one printer using each of the > following drivers: > I'm in agreement here -- they seem like very reasonable criteria. As for the printer drivers, I think that the Postscript ought to be in the list, and perhaps something along the lines of HP LaserJet 4, as there are lots and lots and lots of printers that try to stay compatible with that. I'd also love to see "Print to PDF" added to that list, as I find myself using that more and more as time goes on. -Jared ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Criteria proposal: applying 'post-install' criteria to live and appliance images
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Does this general approach sound good? If so, I'll post some drafts > later in the week. Thanks! > Sounds great to me. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: rawhide report: 20151119 changes
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Fedora Rawhide Report < rawh...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > [nodejs-mime-types] > nodejs-mime-types-2.1.7-1.fc24.noarch requires npm(mime-db) < > 0:1.20 > I've fixed this in Rawhide. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > - Under F21, suspend seems to work fine, but there is no response to the >power button (or any other input). One has to hold the power button >until the firmware gets fed up and powers things down hard. > I had the same problem with mine (X1 Carbon second generation) until I updated the UEFI firmware on it. Since updating that, I haven't had any problems with suspend or resume. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: test request: kernel 3.17 for F21
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks! It'd be great if people could test this kernel: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-3.17.0-301.fc21 > I've been running the kernel all day on my primary laptop, and it seems rock solid. I haven't seen any weird Intel wireless crashes (I was getting two or three a day with the 3.16 kernel), and it's nice to see that the multi-stream transport stuff (DisplayPort 1.1) is working with the Intel driver. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Grub an kernel update
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, miguel wrote: > I have a small problem. When you boot the pc, which selects the kernel > is not the last, that is, the newest, but selects a lower each time you > install a kernel update. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F21_bugs#Default_boot_menu_.28grub.29_entry_is_not_updated_with_new_kernels -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Proposed generic release criterion: service manipulation
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Shutting down, logging out and rebooting must work using standard > console commands and the mechanisms offered (if any) by all > release-blocking desktops. > I think this is reasonable and well put. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: kernel-3.15 series fail to load gnome desktop
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel < clydekunkel7...@verizon.net> wrote: > With all of the kernels in the rawhide 3.15 series so far the gnome > desktop fails to load. > I'm wondering if this is hardware-specific, as I'm running an up to date rawhide system with the 3.15 kernel on my laptop, and it's running just fine. (The laptop has Intel graphics, for what it's worth.) -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: 32 bit Fedora 19: WINE"yes NFS:no 8 cores:no
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > On a 3770 with 4 cores and hyperthreading, startup failed > with insufficient memory to initialize the 8 threads. Once again, you're so concise it's cryptic. Please try to be more descriptive as you report problems. What is a 3770? What part of the "startup" failed? How much memory is in your system? What program was trying to initialize "the 8 threads"? It's hard to help diagnose the problems if you don't give us more information about what's not working. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Major criteria re-write / re-design proposal
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM, moshe nahmias wrote: > I like better the grey background with normal text, it makes the lines > easier to find and breaks the monotonous white background. > On the other hand it's a matter of taste more then anything. I have to agree here -- I like the gray background better than the other ideas presented so far. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Major criteria re-write / re-design proposal
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I don't think I've completely nailed the *design*, though, so it's > important to remember these two things are separable, to a degree. I think the layout and the content are much better, so thank you. Sure, the design isn't perfect -- but as you say, that can be fixed later -- the important thing to me is that the criteria are much more approachable and linkable, which helps us all. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Blocker process: tracker bug / whiteboard naming proposal
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! We're running a FUDCon NA workshop session today to try and > actually knock out some QA 'low-hanging fruit', and the one we tried to > deal with this morning is the blocker tracker bug names. We had some > grand ideas for making this even better in the glorious future, which > involve more good stuff in the blocker webapp, but we intentionally > restricted ourselves to the scope of changes we could propose and > implement quickly, for concrete improvements in the Fedora 19 cycle. Not to sound to critical, but can I propose we use "freeze exception" rather than "freeze break"? I think the word "exception" helps people understand that we're taking something in that we normally wouldn't -- which is much more aligned with the message we're trying to send than "nice to have" ever was. And making an exception doesn't break the freeze (except for that one package), so I think exception fits better. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: new criterion proposal: core kickstart commands
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Do I see two volunteers to help fix kickstart bugs? :) If it came down to crunch time, and a kickstart bug was keeping us from being able to do a release, you bet I'd volunteer to help fix the kickstart bug. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: new criterion proposal: core kickstart commands
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > I'm not fully decided either way, maybe a bit in favor; I hope some people > will comment here as well. Just keep in mind we want to keep the core command > set small. I agree -- %include and %ksappend should be part of the core command set that's required to work for Final. -- Jared Smith -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: EC2 AMI Test Case Review Request
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Tim Flink wrote: > I see what you mean but I'm a little hesitant to add those kind of > details to the test case. It might be better to have a separate wiki > page for "getting started with EC2" instructions. I'll look around to > see if there is already a page like that. It's the only section of the Cloud Guide that has actually been fully fleshed out, but it does exist! See section 2.1 of http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/Cloud_Guide/index.html Props to Garrett Holmstrom (I hope I spelled his name correctly) for writing those instructions for the Cloud Guide. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Fedora 17 TC / RATS scheduling
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > So, for Fedora 16 we experimented with replacing the 'RATS' test points > for Beta and Final with early drops of TC1, and I think that turned out > pretty well. Yeah, all things considered, I thought this was a resounding success. > So the modified schedule would be: > > Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1 2012-01-19 > Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2 2012-01-26 > Test Alpha 'Test Compose' 2012-01-31 > Fedora 17 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting 2012-02-22 > > Test Beta 'Test Compose' 2012-03-06 > Fedora 17 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting 2012-03-28 > > Test 'Final' Test Compose (TC) 2012-04-09 > Fedora 17 Final Go/No-Go Meeting 2012-05-01 > > Assuming we kept the TC drops always scheduled for Tuesdays. There'd > then be 22 days between first TC drop and Go/No-Go, for each phase. > > How does that sound? Anyone want to propose modifications / > alternatives? Thanks! I don't see anything wrong with your proposed schedule. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Release criteria proposal: downgrade some kickstart delivery methods from Beta to Final
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Ping on this one: any further thoughts? Didn't get much response the > first time out. +1 from me. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: I/O Bound Procs Clobbering Responsiveness
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > This a subjective comment, but it seems that I/O bound procs > such as disk copy are seriously impacting GUI response more > than before. I noticed the same thing yesterday while trying to create a live usb key using livecd-iso-to-disk, only it only seemed to be impacting certain GUIs. While creating the key, firefox was completely unresponsive. Gnome terminal seemed to work just fine. Accessing the GNOME dash (either by pressing the meta key or moving the mouse to the hot corner) was unresponsive, but I could press CTRL-ALT-down to get to the second virtual desktop. In my quick tests in the airport this morning, the issue appears to be related to USB I/O (at least on my machine), as I can't reproduce the problem copying data from one SATA disk to another (using a SATA disk in the CD-ROM bay). I'll try to do some more testing once I get back home. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F16: Box hangs sometimes if initiating the reboot by the gnome3 menu
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Sometimes, if I try to reboot my box by the gnome-shell (user button top > right->poweroff->restart), the box hangs, and the reboot seems to fail. In > all these cases, I have to press the power button or the reset button. I saw this last night on my Fedora 15 box, but haven't been able to reproduce it on Fedora 16 yet. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Post-TC1 strategizin'
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Why did this happen? What went wrong? The strategy should be based on > that. James and Adam have already begun to outline some of the reasons on the F16 QA Retrospective page on the wiki. Everyone is welcome to add their input to that page. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_QA_Retrospective#Could_have_been_better -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F15 BETA.TC1 experiences
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > It looks as if, from this one test install, as if adding the user to > admin users automatically adds them to wheel, and that in /etc/sudoers, > wheel is already able to execute all commands (whereas in the past, that > line was commented out.) Was that just an oddity, or is it by design? >From what (little?) I understand, it's by design. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
