Re: errors in dnf update

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "RM" == Robert Moskowitz  writes:

RM> Where would I put a 36K output file?

Honestly I figured you would look at the output yourself to see if
anything stands out.  Though you redirected stdout and not stderr,
and so the output you pasted showed the only error output by that
command anyway, and it's not indicative of any problem.  So that was my
one idea exhausted.

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Re: errors in dnf update

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "RM" == Robert Moskowitz  writes:

RM> New f29-beta for armfhp.  Just ran dnf update and caught this go
RM> across the screen...

RM> /sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache
RM> warning: %postun(anaconda-widgets-29.24.1-1.fc29.armv7hl) scriptlet failed,
RM> exit status 1

Bizarre; anaconda just has:

%postun widgets -p /sbin/ldconfig

Technically that should have been removed in F28, but that's not really
the problem.  Do you get anything useful when running ldconfig -v as
root?  It's possible that something in /etc/ld.so.conf.d is malformed.
It's possible that anaconda-widgets is unrelated except for being the
first thing you noticed that's run ldconfig.  Very little actually needs
to run it these days.

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Re: F28: problems to upgrade texlive-base from updates-testing

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "JLT" == Jason L Tibbitts  writes:

JLT> So I guess R-core needs to change to not provide that
JLT> directory.

Checking git, that was done on Tuesday and was pushed to testing along
with the texlive-base update.  So I guess it's just the directory
replacement issue remaining.

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Re: Problem with F26 fedora repo?

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "EG" == Ed Greshko  writes:

EG> Cannot download
EG> 'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-26=x86_64':
EG> Cannot download repomd.xml: Cannot download repodata/repomd.xml: All
EG> mirrors were tried.  Cleaning up.  Error: Failed to synchronize
EG> cache for repo 'fedora'

I guess the obvious next question is whether you can access that URL.

That hostname has ten IP4 addresses and five IP6 addresses and sadly DNF
doesn't tell you which actually addresses it's trying to contact.  It
really needs to have some way to give complete information about exactly
which host it is contacting and what the conversation looks like.  It's
not possible to tell if it's hitting one bad host and giving up, or if
there's some networking problem on the client end, or if the sun
imploded.  Guess I'll go search for upstream DNF bugs.

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Re: Umask in Fedora 26 ?

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "PG" == Peter Gueckel  writes:

PG> For some reason, my setting in .bash_profile is no longer being
PG> honoured in Fedora 26! Why?

Is this from an application running from:

* A desktop session?  (Which one? And what display manager?)
* A terminal window opened from within a desktop session?  (Which terminal 
program?)
* A text console login?
* An ssh session?

I know there has been work ongoing to get the user's shell out of the
desktop login path, which would mean that setting something in
.bash_profile or .zprofile or whatever isn't going to make any
difference to programs which spawn from a desktop session.  It also
means that .bash_profile/.zprofile won't ever be read if your terminal
program doesn't start the shells as login shells.

I would assume there would be some other way to set a per-user umask
setting (here I need either 007 or 077 depending) but I have no idea
what it would be.

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Re: Rawhide-20170125.n.0: My son, my son, what have you done?!

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "GG" == GERHARD GOETZHABER  

GG> (Why not having at least continued operating THAT edition on 4.8?)

Because the 4.8 series is end of life.  And you can still boot the old
kernels if you want.  In fact, even on rawhide you should be able to
grab some pretty old kernel packages and boot them.

http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1701.1/00356.html

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Re: DRPMs

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "KF" == Kevin Fenzi  writes:

KF> Right. They are not at all, no matter how much I might like it from
KF> the server side. ;)

You and me both.

If only we could get them broken up into subdirectories like the
packages are.  But then you have to fix two different createrepo
codebases.

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Re: DRPMs

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "RW" == Russel Winder  writes:

RW> From what I can see DRPMs for Rawhide have not been picked up by the
RW> mirrors for quite a long time now.

I don't believe drpms are generated for rawhide.  I'm not sure they ever
have been.

RW> Does this mean that the DRPM system is being abandoned?

Do you not see drpms being generated for all of the release branches?
(I certainly do.)  If so, how could you come to the conclusion that
drpms are being abandoned?

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Re: VTs on F22 unusable!

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 MM == Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org writes:

MM Personally, I'd have made it vt2, to keep the ingrained assumption
MM working (and, figure that most people who realize they can switch
MM between these with the function keys rather than the GUI will be
MM able to handle skipping that one), but, eh.

I can't help but laugh at the fact that after all of the angst when we
changed it from F6 so many years ago, now it's getting changed back.
(It's been so long; it might have been F7 but I can't remember now.)

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Re: What does one do about a package maintainer with an attitude problem?

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 JK == Jonathan Kamens j...@kamens.us writes:

JK How does one find out someone's sponsor?

Look them up in the account system.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/packager and
filter it or go through the list.

JK I looked at the Wiki page for the CWG, and it doesn't have any
JK enforcement powers.

Why are you concerned with enforcement powers?  What is anyone going to
do to a volunteer in any case?  Go to their house and threaten them with
violence unless they maintain their packages in the way you want them
maintained?

The only thing anyone can really do, besides communicate, is to remove
the packager's privileges.  Are you willing to maintain those packages
yourself?  (And if so, have you signed up to comaintain them?)  Is
having them removed from the distribution a better outcome than the
status quo?

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Re: Bind updates?

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 mc == mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com writes:

mc Any chance of builds of patched versions of bind for =F16 to fix
mc the CVE quoted in https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00801 ?

There were a bunch of builds yesterday.  Check koji.

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Re: Selinux in development releases

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 JF == John Florian john.flor...@dart.biz writes:

JF I do wish there was some master switch to temporarily enable logging
JF for them.

You mean, besides the existing disable dontaudit rules switch?  Just
run semoduile -DB.  It's pretty much mandatory to do that first when
debugging selinux problems.

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Re: Selinux in development releases

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 MM == Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org writes:

MM Of course. However, it might be better if someone who has better
MM understanding of exactly what that does and how to use it (e.g.,
MM Jason) would do it, including adding a little bit of surrounding
MM text.

I'm just aping one of Dan's old blog entries:
http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/11673.html

I'm something of an idiot when it comes to selinux; I used to know just
enough to get a reasonable bug report out, but now I've even forgotten
most of that.  I do know, however, that turning off dontaudit rules can
save your sanity, because _way_ too much stuff fails silently.  Which is
a horrible bug in itself but it seems to be by design.

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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] GIMP vs. poppler licensing, was: So you want to test an unstable GIMP...

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 NP == Nils Philippsen n...@redhat.com writes:

NP Legal question: is it better to put this in its own subpackage to be
NP able to specify this individual license, or would GIMP better have
NP GPLv3+ and LGPLv3+ and (GPLv2 or GPLv3) as its license?

This is covered by
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:LicensingGuidelines#Multiple_Licensing_Scenarios

Basically, you are encouraged to separate differently licensed pieces of
code into subpackages with different licensing.  However, it is
sufficient to simply indicate all of the licenses in the License: tag
and include an explanation of which files in the binary package are
under which license.  (Various methods for doing this are given in the
URL above.)

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Re: Fedora 15 updates-testing report

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

[Regarding the tsclient package]

 RS == Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:

RS Apparently this package has been marked dead.

But it doesn't look like anyone ever requested that it be blocked from
the distribution.  It's also not been orphaned.

The full process is at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life

It looks like the package was marked dead back in September but the
process stopped there.  Unfortunately the person who made the commit to
remove the files and add the dead.package file isn't listed as one of
the maintainers of the package in pkgdb and is not a provenpackager so
I'm a bit confused.  That person's account is also marked inactive.

I've CC'd the current tsclient maintainers in the hope that someone will
know what should be done with this package.  I'm happy to finish out the
retirement procedure if someone tells me that the package really should
go away.

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Re: Please explain: Your credentials have expired

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 AW == Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com writes:

AW Yes, I've never seen the notification before. I think they may have
AW 'fixed' the notification with a recent update, with the consequences
AW noted here :)

Well, on Feb 14 the version went from 0.16 to 2.91.6.  I guess there's a
nonzero possibility of differing behavior there.

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Re: rawhide report: 20110122 changes

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 RWMJ == Richard W M Jones rjo...@redhat.com writes:

RWMJ I thought that was all I had to do, but apparently there's
RWMJ something else needed to drop it entirely.

Did you delete all of the files and add a dead.package file?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life

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Re: Asterisk RPMs for F14?

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 SH == Steven Haigh net...@crc.id.au writes:

SH Looking at the repos, it seems 1.6.2.12-0.1.rc1 is the available
SH version. 

Seems to me the latest available version in the repository is 1.8.0.

SH How would we go about updating the available asterisk version?

In a stable release?  I'd assume that the maintainer would need to
balance any benefits against the disruption such an update could cause.
I'm assuming you can provide some benefits besides the version number
is higher.  And of course, it would be far more helpful if you would
provide that list of benefits in a ticket filed against the package
instead of on a mailing list.

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Re: !! NVIDIA WORKS !!!

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

 SR == Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com writes:

SR I've never quite understood this logic.  If it's working, there is a
SR change in Fedora, and it doesn't work, this is NVidia's job to fix?

Yes, precisely.

Their code is not open; we can't fix it.  Who else's job could it
possibly be but their when they are the only ones with the code?

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