Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 17 Alpha RC1 is not released. Definitely, absolutely not.
Someone was having a silly day :-). So to prevent any future egregious actions on the part of our criminal users who are passionate about taking content that they were not told they could take may I suggest DRM? I hear it is the wave of the future in preventing users from doing things like taking content that you didn't say they could have. *ducks behind a firewall for the incoming barrage* -- John Watzke On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: Some of you who are just too darn nosy for your own business may have noticed a directory called 17-Alpha.RC1/ here: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/ Now, if you're some kind of trouble-making, commie, tin foil hatted conspiracist, you might even think that this might be Fedora 17 Alpha RC1. This is both laughably naive and treasonous! Purge such thoughts from your mind immediately. Now. I'm warning you. My friends at Google will let me know if you haven't. Any images you may find if you were to take the extremely inadvisable, and indeed criminally indictable, step of entering the above directory are certainly not some kind of Alpha RC1 images which turn out to contain a serious bug[1] that was discovered part-way through the compose process, but are otherwise mostly installable and testable. No. They're full of lead, mercury, plutonium and other highly toxic substances. Don't touch them - you'll die in agony right after we arrest you. Really. It's for your own good. In a move that is *entirely* coincidental to all of the above, it just so happens that the release engineering team will soon be composing some builds that will be named Fedora 17 Alpha RC2. For entirely legitimate reasons which are certainly not at all to do with anything mentioned above, but which I can't tell you about for reasons of security. Ahem. These images will likely show up in a directory called http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Alpha.RC2/ when they're done, but if you know what's good for you, you won't go sticking your grubby little fingers in it until we tell you to. [1] http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790639 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17 Alpha 'TC1' note
F16 had some rushed moments where bugs were getting fixed in the last moments before the next cut. I certainly couldn't see any harm in a TC getting a couple of extra weeks of testing. I know I generally don't grab rawhide and I wait until a TC before testing. Having more eyes earlier could only be a good thing. Why not toss up the matrix? I'm downloading now. -- John Watzke On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: Hey, folks. You may have noticed (especially if you're Andre :) that an 'Alpha TC1' labelled release just showed up: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Alpha.TC1/Fedora/ Dennis built it this way, but according to the schedule we agreed for F17, it's really intended only for RATS testing, which twu will perform and report on later. Of course, there's nothing to stop people downloading and testing these images in other ways, please go ahead if you feel like it! But we won't be putting up a matrix for it. The 'real' TC1 is scheduled for Feb 7th. If anyone feels it would be worthwhile just going ahead and treating this as a full TC and sticking up a matrix, hey, go ahead and suggest it. I'm kind of in two minds what to do with it now. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F17 Alpha 'TC1' note
Actually neither image seems bootable right now (at least not through a VM) so the matrix might be overkill :-). -- John Watzke On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:02 AM, John Watzke watz...@gmail.com wrote: F16 had some rushed moments where bugs were getting fixed in the last moments before the next cut. I certainly couldn't see any harm in a TC getting a couple of extra weeks of testing. I know I generally don't grab rawhide and I wait until a TC before testing. Having more eyes earlier could only be a good thing. Why not toss up the matrix? I'm downloading now. -- John Watzke On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: Hey, folks. You may have noticed (especially if you're Andre :) that an 'Alpha TC1' labelled release just showed up: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Alpha.TC1/Fedora/ Dennis built it this way, but according to the schedule we agreed for F17, it's really intended only for RATS testing, which twu will perform and report on later. Of course, there's nothing to stop people downloading and testing these images in other ways, please go ahead if you feel like it! But we won't be putting up a matrix for it. The 'real' TC1 is scheduled for Feb 7th. If anyone feels it would be worthwhile just going ahead and treating this as a full TC and sticking up a matrix, hey, go ahead and suggest it. I'm kind of in two minds what to do with it now. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
F16 Repo Keys
I've installed RC1 and tried to do an update just to get the latest packages. The update is failing because the key isn't correct. Have they changed? I wasn't aware that they had. warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 069c8460: NOKEY Retrieving key from file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386 The GPG keys listed for the Fedora 16 - i386 repository are already installed but they are not correct for this package. Check that the correct key URLs are configured for this repository. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Post-TC1 strategizin'
Honestly I rather having the extra TC build to weed out any potential blocker that could arise during fixing and spinning of the known blockers. I've seen that happen in the past and an extra spin can help make sure RC is better at the start. -- John Watzke On Aug 3, 2011 8:12 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@cox.net wrote: On 08/03/2011 08:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I thought it'd be a good idea to take a step back and plan a strategy for post-Alpha TC1. We're in trouble for Alpha; we're a long way behind schedule, and we have a lot of blocker bugs remaining. TC1 is in pretty bad shape. By policy, we can't call a build an RC until all known blockers are fixed in it. I'm thinking we may be a way out from that. So, we have the choice of waiting for all blockers to be resolved before we do the next compose, which might take a while, or doing a TC2 with the most critical fixes in. What approach do people think we should take? Would a TC2 have any value or should we just clean up all the blockers we know about before we do another build, and make it RC1? I'm thinking we're likely to slip the Alpha at least a week either way, unfortunately. I vote for cleaning up as many of the blockers as you can in a week to match the expected week slip. Prioritize them first? I suspect this is vacation time for many, so a longer slip might be in the offing. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour
Next bug is no debuginfo packages for key bits like glibc means no automatic bug report from abrt was possible. Guys, no debug packages means no good reports, which is the whole point of a beta, right? Are you saying that ABRT didn't download debuginfo packages? For a while now (not just F15) debuginfo isn't installed at install time. It just automatically gets downloaded when ABRT tries to generate the backtrace and it caches them in /var rather than installing them as full RPMs on the system. If ABRT didn't actually download the debugs that's actually a bug and you probably should report it. Launch firefox and display the About popup. Notice anything missing? Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and kill off xulrunner-bin. Or perhaps xkill? Is this a window manager (mutter?) bug? Not that I specifically agree with it but popup windows like the about window are dismissed with the Esc key rather than a close button. Gnome-shell has some minimalistic design decisions in it which will take some getting used to like the lack of a minimize button and the alt button press for a shutdown. That last one seems fine for desktops which I run 24x7 but not necessarily laptops which I tend to shutdown and pack away. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Network-Manager-pptp 1:0.8.997 missing in F-15
Should I just pull from git git://git.gnome.org/network-manager-pptp for now until it hits the repo? I would just wait until they resolve the issue and push it to updates-testing. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Boot time F15
Mar 24 19:43:21 scrappy kernel: [ 187.433316] systemd[1]: home-download.mount mounting timed out. Stopping. Mar 24 19:43:21 scrappy kernel: [ 188.180086] systemd[1]: Unit home-download.mount entered failed state. Are you automounting a NFS or SMB share on boot? Maybe the automount is taking forever and finally timing out? -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Boot time F15
Like maybe it's trying to mount my nfs mount before the network and/or services to do it have started yet? (just to try, I'll make sure it's not sleeping and fully awake when booting and make sure that isn't it). Yes, that's what I'm thinking. If you turn off the automount of your NFS share, does this all go away? I think it's pretty typical that NFS will hang things up if there isn't a network available... and perhaps we're running into an issue where there isn't a network because it isn't getting started until NetworkManager comes up later. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: desktop window...
The http://www.gnome3.org/ site has overview information as well as links to the design wiki and documentation. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F15: How to bring GDM to show the user pictures on the GDM login screen
I believe it's the same or similar in gnome-shell. If you click on the user menu in the upper right (the same thing you use to logout) there is an account settings menu item that lets you set information for the account. One of those things is the picture that you would like to be displayed. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Speech Recognition Software Being Tested For Fedora 15?
Fedora offers cmusphinx and pocketsphinx. I was asking whether they are being tested for Fedora 15 because I want to learn about the packages and software capabilities and perhaps make use of them for my own purposes -- I'm deaf and have an interest in the software, but no expertise with it whatsoever. I got a big jolt yesterday when one of my own customers demonstrated Dragon Naturally Speaking software to me. Now, I'm interested in voice-to-text processing for sure! Not really related to Fedora itself... but if you really like Dragon, it apparently works through Wine. There are apparently some issues with it under Wine but you could certainly give that a try. I don't think any of the Linux speech packages are anywhere close to what Dragon can do. However, that's a good opportunity to help your favourite package out. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Speech Recognition Software Being Tested For Fedora 15?
I'm not sure I understand your question Bob. I don't think we have a special Test Day for that but anything that is meant to run is certainly something you can feel free to test. Aside from Test Days and new update testing, I generally run through a mock development setup where I test all the various tools that I use on a daily basis so I know it will work at GA time. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Speech Recognition Software Being Tested For Fedora 15?
More basic question, is there any speech recognition software for Linux? There's several somewhat experimental packages in the general Linux community. I don't really use any but I assume there are few in Fedora repos you can test out. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Fedora 15 updates-testing report
I read them every day as well. Of course, I don't particularly like the super-massive x11 update that just got pushed. But I can see it thanks to these emails. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: gdm-2.91.93-1.fc15.x86_64
Take a look at the Bodhi page for this package: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/accountsservice-0.6.5-1.fc15,gdm-2.91.93-1.fc15?_csrf_token=579900300f9483a30ed72f7bdec5bc57f9d9d3e5 GDM was accidentally released without the accountsservice package update. If you've already gotten GDM, you can either try to downgrade or use the link on the Bodhi package page to manually download accountsservice and update it which will fix the problem. Chris fixed the problem and attached accountsservice to the push but it won't be until late tonight, perhaps twelve hours from now, that the package will make its way out to all of the mirrors. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Running abrt-cli in live isos for graphics test days?
However when I run abrt-cli -r xxx where xxx are the first few characters of the uuid it wants to download 94 debug files - is there any way I can get a shorter way to a crash report from abrt-cli? I'm not sure what you mean by a shorter way. If you don't have the debug files installed, the backtrace won't contain any useful information. It will basically show each thread and call stack as No symbols found. You can manually run 'debuginfo-install crashing application name' and it will install the debuginfos but it's likely to be the same 94 debuginfo files. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!
How about a keyboard and colour schemes? On the long run these are _much_ more important. Yes, send in bug reports if you are having problems with them. What you are testing is TC and not even Alpha so you should expect a lot of broken things. Total System Quality doesn't come straight from the developers themselves. It gets tested and sent back to the developers to fix. The testing part is what we're trying to do here. You should expect to download an image that once installed will probably break in at least 14 different ways. That ensures on release day an end user will download an image that is of high quality. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678418 Argh, just missed giving you the current bug number. This is the issue I reported earlier in this thread. It will probably be marked as a dup of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677842. Please fill in some of your experiences and hardware info in the bug to help debug the problem. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!
Do you have a ATI graphics card by any chance? I'm wondering if we are seeing a trend happening here with ATI graphics cards... Btw Install abrt-cli package and switch to terminal and file a bug. ( abrt-cli -l to list crashes and abrt-cli -r @$number to report it ) Thanks for the tip on abtr-cli. I figured there was some sort of cli to report this but I didn't have a chance to look it up last night as I was getting pretty sleepy. Yes, this is an ATI card and it worked just fine in both the gnome3 test day and TC1. I'll unleash the bugs tonight when I get home. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!
Quick question: When installing from the i386 DVD, I noticed that the installed skipped the first part of anaconda where the blue/red screen comes up and offers to check the install media. The installer just skipped to the graphical install. Is this a bug or something new? I've got a problem TC2 and mutter constantly crashing on login so I'm check the media manually on my F14 box but the on-install media check was nice. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: fc15 TC1 isos
To login as root graphically hasn't been a feature for at least a couple releases, if not longer. That's not a bug. What do you mean it asked for a network connection and you canceled? As in it kept asking and never connected or you just canceled upon the initial connection? My install was a DVD install so it really shouldn't have asked me for a connection since I wasn't pulling from any repo other than the DVD. I initially tried to connect through Wifi but I have a hidden WPA2 network which apparently it doesn't connect to. Since I didn't need the network connection, I just closed the network connection window and continued through the install. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: fc15 TC1 isos
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:15 AM, John Watzke watz...@gmail.com wrote: To login as root graphically hasn't been a feature for at least a couple releases, if not longer. That's not a bug. What do you mean it asked for a network connection and you canceled? As in it kept asking and never connected or you just canceled upon the initial connection? Also, I wasn't saying that root login is a bug as I expect that is not allowed. The issue was that firstboot didn't run. My particular workaround was just to switch to a console, login as root, and create a user. -- John Watzje -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: fc15 TC1 isos
I installed TC1 x86_64 DVD last night. I only hit a few minor issues. It prompted me for a network connection which I just cancelled and FirstBoot doesn't run to setup your initial account. You can't login graphically as root after the install so you just have to flip to another console and create the user manually on the command line. Other than those two minor things, it has been working quite well so far. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC1 Available Now!
Should we expect to still be hooked up to the rawhide repo for TC1 or should we manually change over to updates-testing? -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Strange bug in F14: gnome-settings-daemon, Firefox ramp up to high CPU usage
I installed audacious and flipped through about a dozen internet radio stations and I couldn't replicate the problem you describe. I generally listen to radio over Pandora (using the flash player) and I haven't had any issues with pulse freaking out. I certainly haven't see this issue just randomly on my system either. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F12 critical path testing
Thanks Thomas. This will work great. Now we just need to figure out how to drive this initiative. Perhaps a wiki page to at least identify the packages and if we've worked with the maintainers yet to get an agreement to try to provide some sort of testing information. From there we'll need some place to store some of this information. Test information for a specific bug can easily be stored in the bug itself since its value decreases somewhat after the bug has been fixed and the release has been done. General test scripts would need to be stored somewhere else. Perhaps on this same wiki page where general test scripts could show what needs to be done and for packages such as Perl/GCC/Glibc small code scriptlets could be provided to allow testers to run them and get some general regression coverage. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F12 critical path testing
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:26 AM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 10:58 -0500, John Watzke wrote: Thanks Thomas. This will work great. Now we just need to figure out how to drive this initiative. I think you just did! Best way to start, is by discussing and following up. Okay, let me look over the test case and test plan templates and see what can be put together. I do like your suggestion of starting with the heavy hitters such as firefox/kernel/glibc. That will get us started and we can work our way down to the more obscure test cases. Sometime this week, I'll put up a wiki page with a general list of known critpath packages. This will give us a working set to start on. I'm thinking we can use that list to let folks sign up to track down the maintainer and work through the processing of defining a test case for the package and perhaps updating the status of preparing the tests. Nothing too fancy... just something to keep some status on. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F12 critical path testing
Having automated tests or even test plans would be useful for any package. But critical path packages are perhaps more worth doing this for. Maybe QA can slowly work through the list working with the package owners to try to develop reasonable tests. Yes, it would be great if critical path packages had some sort of test information, test script or test data. It would be incredibly hard for me to test most of the F12 critical path packages otherwise. While I can run F12 under a VM, I don't actively use it so being able to target the problem area and test it would make things easier. F13 packages are somewhat easier since that's my main working machine although there are critical path packages that do come up that I have no idea how to test. Having some sort of information on how to test a package would definitely get more eyes on a critpath package. I'm relatively new to proventesters. I know I can see unapproved critpath packages on Bodhi but is there a master list of all critpath packages in Fedora? That would help us in tracking down who to work with in hopefully getting this important test information. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Anybody has problems too with totem in F14?
I am positive that glib2 didn't fix this. I had just sat down to do my testing for the radeon graphics test day and when I got to the second test where you had to use totem, I couldn't get anywhere because totem kept crashing. I was going to file a bug and I checked bodhi to see if anyone else had complained about the totem issue. I happened to notice the new totem that was available (and bundled with gtk2 and brasero) but not pushed. I manually grabbed those packages from Koji and installed them. Totem immediately worked and I was able to continue my testing for the graphics test day. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] 2010-10-01 - F14-Blocker meeting recap
I believe it meets the installer failing criteria with the current F14-Beta release. Sadly due to my timezone I am never awake for the meetings to bring it up. You don't have to be present to suggest a bug. If you edit the bug and set F14Blocker in the Blocks field, it will be discussed at the next blocker meeting. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Anybody has problems too with totem in F14?
On Bodhi, you can get the update to totem and brasero that also includes gtk2-22.0. After installing these packages, totem doesn't crash. I was trying to do my video test day testing and that's when I noticed the totem crash. Updating (or in the case of gtk2 it seems a downgrade) fixes the problems. The change hasn't been pushed to updates-testing yet so you'll have to download it manually from Koji: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gtk2-2.22.0-1.fc14,totem-2.32.0-1.fc14,brasero-2.32.0-1.fc14?_csrf_token=16ec74e79dd02df7724ca8a8408b61a34bc10b7d -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Anybody has problems too with totem in F14?
Actually I misspoke it's gtk2 that was changed not glib2. So I wonder if this is glib2 related at all since these packages fix the problem. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: 1000 Bug reports
That's actually pretty cool. Did Orion happen to have a script that parsed a bugzilla csv or xml file to generate these stats? Would he mind sharing it? -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F14 Beta RC3 install from DVD is a world of hurt.
Didn't I also see messages about people with USB mice not being able to click on buttons and having to use the keyboard? Maybe USB is generally busted? I doubt it is as broken as that. There are plenty of USB mice being used. I was one of the people reporting the problem with RC2 and mouse clicks not being registered. I'm using a trackpoint which isn't USB. It also was strangely inconsistent where it would break on the i686 DVD and not on the x86_64 DVD no matter how many times I tried the disks. I unfortunately don't have a DVD drive where I can try this right now but I did have a strange problem last week with an external DVD drive at work. I had strange issues like Steven is reporting (it was a Centos DVD not Fedora). It would boot the DVD and then say no install media was present. The machine (a Dell Precision 5500) had multiple sets of USB ports. I moved the connection around to another set of USB ports and it worked. I think one of the connectors must have been busted in some fashion that caused it to barely work. Steven, does it help if you try different connectors? -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F14 Beta RC2 comments
Having found a mostly reliable workaround for the FlushCache problem, the installer for RC2 is now booting without recognizing mouse clicks. ABout 2/3 of the time it will move the mouse pointer but won't accept any button presses. Strangely enough, the netinst iso install works just fine with the mouse I'm using but when I booted the DVD iso, I found the same issue you've found where the mouse moves but I can't click. If I right click a button it actually highlights the button. I had to use tab and enter through the whole install. I haven't messed with this bug yet because I'm working on reporting another issue where the system fails to boot after install. I've got a T500 so I'm using the little red trackpoint for my mouse. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F14 Beta RC2 comments
Having found a mostly reliable workaround for the FlushCache problem, the installer for RC2 is now booting without recognizing mouse clicks. ABout 2/3 of the time it will move the mouse pointer but won't accept any button presses. BTW, do you already have a bug open about the mouse click issue? I'll add to it and if not I'll go open one. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F14 Beta RC2 comments
If you boot an F14 live image do you see the same issue? I'll have to try a live image... but I did netinst first and the mouse clicks worked just fine. I would have noticed if the mouse clicks didn't because hitting tabs and space drives me nuts. Feels like the old non-graphical installer again :-). -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Graphical login impossible after update to 1:gdm-2.31.90-5.fc14.i686 in F14
Anybody sees this too? Yes, I'm getting it as well. I pulled this from koji to test it out since it was supposed to fix a bug in the user switch applet and I got a gdm that constantly restarts. I logged it as an issue on bodhi since I didn't know if I was missing something since I pulled directly from koji instead of waiting for it to be pushed. Looks like it wasn't something that I did though. Hopefully a -6 will be put up soon. Until then, I'll revert back to -4 as well. -- John Watzke -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
