2016-01-29 20:44 GMT+02:00 Adam Williamson <adamw...@fedoraproject.org>:

> On Fri, 2016-01-29 at 08:46 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
>
> > I'm not completely happy about the wording of:
> > " This criterion does apply to live environments. However, a stricter
> > standard of judgement may be applied to conditional violations in
> > live environments, as clean shutdown and log out functionality is
> > relatively less important on a live boot than an installed system. "
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_Beta_Criteria_Post
> > install#Shutdown.2C_reboot.2C_logout
> >
> > For example logout is necessary if you want to switch languages (and
> > our l10n test days rely on that). Reboot and shutdown is necessary
> > for automating stuff. I'd use the same measure as in post-install
> > here.
>
> Hmm, IIRC this was one case that *really happened*, and I was trying to
> catch the flavor of our IRC discussion at the time - my memory is that
> we were willing to accept such bugs as blockers, but we'd maybe be more
> likely to waive them for only affecting a small amount of users or
> being workaroundable or something like that. I can go back and check
> the logs again, though. What do other folks think?
>

 The Gnome logout hang/delay bug in Fedora 23 prevented changing the
language in live images for me: I asked Adam about proposing it for a
blogger. I never proposed it as a blocker as the issue got accepted under
more straightforward criteria soon after.

I would rather have an explicit criteria for language change for beta if
there is need to have working mechanism to change language before final
release.

-- 
Kari Koskinen
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