Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 30 Candidate RC-1.1 Available Now!

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

 I can do virtual machine testing for Silverblue if that's in the ISO
collection.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:08 PM Adam Williamson 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 00:42 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 30 Candidate RC-1.1 is now
> > available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
> > testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
> >
> > Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
> > https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/30
> >
> > You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
> > locations, and enter results on the Summary page:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.1_Summary
> >
> > The individual test result pages are:
> >
> >
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.1_Installation
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.1_Base
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.1_Server
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.1_Cloud
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.1_Desktop
> >
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.1_Security_Lab
> >
> > All RC priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
> > pass in order to meet the RC Release Criteria [3].
>
> Hey folks! So this really is an RC for 30 Final - all currently-known
> blockers are addressed. Unfortunately, though, the compose got hung up
> by problems with s390 tasks; it should have been finished about 12
> hours ago, but it only just finished now :(
>
> We may well not have time to complete testing on it ahead of Go/No-Go
> now, but if folks can do their best, that'd be great. Thanks a lot!
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Re: Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

+1 - I'm on the mailing lists and I didn't even see the GO
announcement for the beta!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Ben Cotton  wrote:
> With today's Beta release, the release announcement post for Fedora
> Magazine was not ready. As a result, the announcement went out a
> little late and then only due to a drop-everything effort (thanks,
> stickster!). We have a proposal to add a fourth criterion for the
> Go/No-Go decision, beginning with F29 Final:
>
> 4. The release announcement post for Fedora Magazine is substantially complete
>
> As a reminder, these are the existing criteria:
>
> 1. No remaining blocker bugs
> 2. Release candidate compose is available
> 3. Test matrices for [milestone = Alpha, Beta, Final] are fully completed
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Re: Can Fedora move away from blue backgrounds?

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

I can't comment on the health issues, but TBH I usually dump the default
wallpaper for a forest scene of some kind within an hour of installing
Linux ;-)

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018, 16:43 Matthew Miller  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:45:28AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > The evidence is finally in on how blue light destroys the retina.
> > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-28254-8
> > (Nature only publishes peer reviewed material.)
>
> I'm... not really qualified to understand this, so I asked a friend who is,
> and she says:
>
>   "The item that stood out for me was “40–100 mW 445, 488, 515, and 594 nm
>solid-state lasers equipped with Andor® FRAP-PA (fluorescence recovery
> after
>photobleaching and photoactivation) unit in real time”... are you using
> a
>40-100mW focused laser? That doesn’t seem likely. You’re probably fine."
>
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Re: Nvidia and Fedora current state

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

I don't think the `nouveau` kernel module is a viable option on newer
NVidia cards. I have a laptop with a 1050Ti and nouveau flat out
doesn't work - it either black screens or freezes at some random point
after showing the display.

This is cross-distro; I have the same problem with Ubuntu Bionic,
Antergos and Fedora 29 Live beta 1.5. I filed a bug in Bugzilla last
night (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1631934) but this
is most likely upstream.

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 4:51 AM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:28:36 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
>> > Rebooted a few times, and suddenly the symptoms are gone again.
>> > It's like something doesn't initialize correctly when it happens.
>
>> Are you using Wayland or Xorg?
>
> Currently Wayland and Nouveau driver, which are the default.
>
> When it occurs, on the GDM screen the lag is noticable already. It doesn't
> make sense to log in then. The mouse pointer doesn't move cleanly. Logging
> in suffers from delays. And then it becomes worse and worse. One can barely
> move the mouse anymore to use GUI elements. It takes two seconds for windows
> to open. Denial of service. As if something throttles graphics operations
> due to not setting up the hardware properly.
>
> When it doesn't occur, everything is fine already at the GDM screen.
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Re: proposal: drop optical media from release criteria

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

+1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
CDs and DVDs ;-)

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Matthew Miller
>  wrote:
>> Justification: 
>> http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
>
>
> +1 to dropping the optical media criterion
>
>
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Re: Fedora 29 Silverblue Test Day 2018-09-20

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

Everything in my normal workflow is now working in Silverblue 29
except using my WiFi adapter as a hotspot and playing videos on
Twitter in Firefox.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:43 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
 wrote:
> OK - downloading it now!
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:42 PM, Sumantro Mukherjee
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>>> From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" 
>>> To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 11:53:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Fedora 29 Silverblue Test Day 2018-09-20
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Sumantro Mukherjee
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Hey All,
>>> >
>>> > We have Silverblue Test Day coming up on 2018-09-20!
>>> > Fedora Silverblue[0] is a new variant of Fedora Workstation with 
>>> > rpm-ostree
>>> > at its core to provide fully atomic upgrades.
>>> > Furthermore, Fedora Silverblue is immutable and upgrades as a whole,
>>> > providing easy rollbacks from updates if something goes wrong.
>>> > Fedora Silverblue is great for developers using Fedora with good support
>>> > for container-focused workflows.
>>> >
>>> > Additionally, Fedora Silverblue delivers desktop applications as  
>>> > Flatpaks.
>>> > This provides better isolation / sandboxing of applications, and
>>> > streamlines updating applications — Flatpaks can be safely updated without
>>> > reboot.
>>> >
>>> > Next Thursday, September 20 2018, Team Silverblue and Fedora QA are 
>>> > holding
>>> > a Test Day
>>> > for users to try out and test this new Fedora Workstation variant.
>>> >
>>> > The wiki page[1] for the silverblue has a lot of good information on what
>>> > and how to test.
>>> > After you’ve done some testing, you can log your results in the test day
>>> > web application[2].
>>> >
>>> > If you’re available on or around the day of the event, please do some
>>> > testing and report your results.
>>> >
>>> > [0]https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/
>>> > [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2018-09-20_Silverblue_Testday
>>> > [2]http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/47
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > //sumantro
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>>> Will there be install ISO files that have passed some kind of testing?
>>> I've been installing Silverblue 28 (which works) and rebasing to
>>> Silverblue 29 (which hangs in GDM on one of my machines).
>>>
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>>
>> Hey, we are testing 
>> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/29_Beta-1.3/Silverblue/x86_64/iso/
>>
>> if there are any bugs you manage to find,can you please report them to 
>> Bugzilla?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: Fedora 29 Silverblue Test Day 2018-09-20

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

OK - downloading it now!

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:42 PM, Sumantro Mukherjee
 wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" 
>> To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" 
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 11:53:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fedora 29 Silverblue Test Day 2018-09-20
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Sumantro Mukherjee
>>  wrote:
>> > Hey All,
>> >
>> > We have Silverblue Test Day coming up on 2018-09-20!
>> > Fedora Silverblue[0] is a new variant of Fedora Workstation with rpm-ostree
>> > at its core to provide fully atomic upgrades.
>> > Furthermore, Fedora Silverblue is immutable and upgrades as a whole,
>> > providing easy rollbacks from updates if something goes wrong.
>> > Fedora Silverblue is great for developers using Fedora with good support
>> > for container-focused workflows.
>> >
>> > Additionally, Fedora Silverblue delivers desktop applications as  Flatpaks.
>> > This provides better isolation / sandboxing of applications, and
>> > streamlines updating applications — Flatpaks can be safely updated without
>> > reboot.
>> >
>> > Next Thursday, September 20 2018, Team Silverblue and Fedora QA are holding
>> > a Test Day
>> > for users to try out and test this new Fedora Workstation variant.
>> >
>> > The wiki page[1] for the silverblue has a lot of good information on what
>> > and how to test.
>> > After you’ve done some testing, you can log your results in the test day
>> > web application[2].
>> >
>> > If you’re available on or around the day of the event, please do some
>> > testing and report your results.
>> >
>> > [0]https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/
>> > [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2018-09-20_Silverblue_Testday
>> > [2]http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/47
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > //sumantro
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>> Will there be install ISO files that have passed some kind of testing?
>> I've been installing Silverblue 28 (which works) and rebasing to
>> Silverblue 29 (which hangs in GDM on one of my machines).
>>
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>
> Hey, we are testing 
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/29_Beta-1.3/Silverblue/x86_64/iso/
>
> if there are any bugs you manage to find,can you please report them to 
> Bugzilla?
>
>
> Thanks
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Re: Fedora 29 Silverblue Test Day 2018-09-20

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Sumantro Mukherjee
 wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> We have Silverblue Test Day coming up on 2018-09-20!
> Fedora Silverblue[0] is a new variant of Fedora Workstation with rpm-ostree 
> at its core to provide fully atomic upgrades.
> Furthermore, Fedora Silverblue is immutable and upgrades as a whole, 
> providing easy rollbacks from updates if something goes wrong.
> Fedora Silverblue is great for developers using Fedora with good support for 
> container-focused workflows.
>
> Additionally, Fedora Silverblue delivers desktop applications as  Flatpaks.
> This provides better isolation / sandboxing of applications, and streamlines 
> updating applications — Flatpaks can be safely updated without reboot.
>
> Next Thursday, September 20 2018, Team Silverblue and Fedora QA are holding a 
> Test Day
> for users to try out and test this new Fedora Workstation variant.
>
> The wiki page[1] for the silverblue has a lot of good information on what and 
> how to test.
> After you’ve done some testing, you can log your results in the test day web 
> application[2].
>
> If you’re available on or around the day of the event, please do some testing 
> and report your results.
>
> [0]https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/
> [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2018-09-20_Silverblue_Testday
> [2]http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/47
>
> Thanks
> //sumantro
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Will there be install ISO files that have passed some kind of testing?
I've been installing Silverblue 28 (which works) and rebasing to
Silverblue 29 (which hangs in GDM on one of my machines).

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Re: Nvidia and Fedora current state

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

I have no interest in running Fedora on that machine. I have a working
system with Arch and unless that changes I don't see any reason to
troubleshoot other distros.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:10:02 -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>
>> I have an HP Omen with Core i7 integrated Intel graphics and an NVidia
>> 1050Ti. With recent versions of the kernel (Ubuntu 18.04 and Arch) it
>> is unusable if the standard Linux "nouveau" driver gets loaded -
>> screen freezes, sometimes black screens. I've had to blacklist it
>> (modprobe.blacklist=nouveau on the kernel parameters line) to get it
>> to come up with the Intel GPU. Then I install the proprietary drivers.
>> I haven't tried Fedora.
>
> What I've learned so far:
>
> F29 Updates-Testing is strictly required, since without the test
> updates from today (or yesterday), an installation made with the Live
> Workstation image suffers badly. One of the test updates fixes that.
> And still with Nouveau driver, not the proprietary one.
>
> Dunno yet what may work with F28 down to F26. Perhaps a fresh installation,
> because Fedora's steady flood of updates makes things worse often.
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Re: Nvidia and Fedora current state

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

I have an HP Omen with Core i7 integrated Intel graphics and an NVidia
1050Ti. With recent versions of the kernel (Ubuntu 18.04 and Arch) it
is unusable if the standard Linux "nouveau" driver gets loaded -
screen freezes, sometimes black screens. I've had to blacklist it
(modprobe.blacklist=nouveau on the kernel parameters line) to get it
to come up with the Intel GPU. Then I install the proprietary drivers.
I haven't tried Fedora.

You can probably do a web search to find out when "nouveau" lost its
ability to deal with NVidia cards; I just got the machine last
December and it was broken back then.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:18 AM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> What's the current state of Fedora with regard to Nvidia graphics hardware?
> Should it just work?
>
> On a machine with GeForce GTX 1060, Fedora 28 suffers badly from freezes and
> slowdowns during boot, unbearable slow mouse movement on the GDM login
> screen, then more freezes before GNOME Shell appears but isn't really
> usable because everything is slow as a snail. Switching the login settings
> from Wayland to Xorg at least results in a usable GNOME Shell. Installing
> the Nvidia driver packages from rpmfusion hasn't made a difference.
>
> The current Fedora 29 Live Workstation image starts, but faces mysterious
> freezes before the desktop appears. Installation to harddisk has worked, but
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> isn't pretty. It takes too long to start a terminal, or suddenly the shell
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Re: Slow display manager on Fedora 29 Workstation - am I the only one who's seeing this?

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Frantisek Zatloukal
 wrote:
> What version of selinux-policy do you have? Make sure it's at least
> selinux-policy-3.14.2-34.fc29.

Well - almost ;-)

$ dnf list installed | grep -i selinux
container-selinux.noarch
2:2.71-2.git5721d74.fc29@fedora
libselinux.x86_64 2.8-3.fc29
   @fedora
libselinux-utils.x86_64   2.8-3.fc29
   @fedora
python3-libselinux.x86_64 2.8-3.fc29
   @fedora
rpm-plugin-selinux.x86_64 4.14.2-1.fc29
   @fedora
selinux-policy.noarch 3.14.2-32.fc29
   @fedora
selinux-policy-targeted.noarch3.14.2-32.fc29
   @fedora

Let me try disabling selinux.
>
> Dne pá 14. 9. 2018 8:03 uživatel Aleksandar Kurtakov 
> napsal:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 8:25 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got a workstation that I'm testing with Fedora 29 Workstation. I
>>> installed it over the network using the "everything boot" network
>>> installer. Relative to other Linux systems, including Silverblue 28,
>>> the system takes a long time to display the GDM greeter, and once I
>>> log in, it takes a long time to come up with a desktop.
>>>
>>> This machine has an AMD "Bonaire" GPU and I've had plenty of kernel
>>> and Wayland / X issues with it over the years, so my first guess is
>>> that this is kernel / GPU related and not something everyone is
>>> seeing. But before I go collecting log files I'm curious if other
>>> people are seeing this.
>>
>>
>> I experience this kind of slowness too (Intel).
>>
>>>
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Re: Slow display manager on Fedora 29 Workstation - am I the only one who's seeing this?

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:53 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Frantisek Zatloukal
>  wrote:
>> What version of selinux-policy do you have? Make sure it's at least
>> selinux-policy-3.14.2-34.fc29.
>
> Well - almost ;-)
>
> $ dnf list installed | grep -i selinux
> container-selinux.noarch
> 2:2.71-2.git5721d74.fc29@fedora
> libselinux.x86_64 2.8-3.fc29
>@fedora
> libselinux-utils.x86_64   2.8-3.fc29
>@fedora
> python3-libselinux.x86_64 2.8-3.fc29
>@fedora
> rpm-plugin-selinux.x86_64 4.14.2-1.fc29
>@fedora
> selinux-policy.noarch 3.14.2-32.fc29
>@fedora
> selinux-policy-targeted.noarch3.14.2-32.fc29
>@fedora
>
> Let me try disabling selinux.

Disabling selinux fixed it. I assume this is already in bugzilla.
Thanks everyone!
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Slow display manager on Fedora 29 Workstation - am I the only one who's seeing this?

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

I've got a workstation that I'm testing with Fedora 29 Workstation. I
installed it over the network using the "everything boot" network
installer. Relative to other Linux systems, including Silverblue 28,
the system takes a long time to display the GDM greeter, and once I
log in, it takes a long time to come up with a desktop.

This machine has an AMD "Bonaire" GPU and I've had plenty of kernel
and Wayland / X issues with it over the years, so my first guess is
that this is kernel / GPU related and not something everyone is
seeing. But before I go collecting log files I'm curious if other
people are seeing this.

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Re: Virtualization Test Day 2018-09-11 *Tomorrow*

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

Is Silverblue included? They have their own test day coming but
virtualization is as big of a use case for me as containers.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, 12:51 Sumantro Mukherjee  wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> We are going to test all forms of virtualization possible in Fedora. The
> test day[0] will focus on
> testing Fedora or your favorite distro inside a bare metal of Fedora
> running Boxes, KVM, VirtualBox and whatever have you.
> The general features of installing the OS and working with it are outlined
> in the test cases. If you have some free time, please
> test and share your results on the test results page[1]
>
> As always, the people will be monitoring the event on
> #fedora-test-day@freenode, feel free to ask questions and file bugs!
>
> [0]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2018-09-11_Virtualization
> [1]http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/46
>
> Thanks
> //sumantrom
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Re: 2018-09-04 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

Is there a link for the Silverblue test day? Google isn't showing it.

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 14:32 Adam Williamson 
wrote:

> 
> #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora QA Meeting
> 
>
>
> Meeting started by adamw at 15:02:00 UTC. The full logs are available at
>
> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-09-04/fedora-qa.2018-09-04-15.02.log.html
> .
>
>
>
> Meeting summary
> ---
> * Roll call  (adamw, 15:02:08)
>
> * Previous meeting follow up  (adamw, 15:09:23)
>   * "adamw to send out mail about F29 Change review" - welp, I forgot
> this was an action item, but I did it anyway! -
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/L2W2QAPASC4CVS75KP4KJ6VH2H3PKKGB/
> (adamw, 15:10:06)
>
> * Fedora 29 general status  (adamw, 15:12:14)
>   * Fedora 29 is frozen for Beta as of 2018-08-27  (adamw, 15:15:13)
>   * Fedora 29 Beta Go/No-Go is currently scheduled for 2018-09-13,
> meaning we have nine days to beat it into shape  (adamw, 15:18:33)
>   * there are critical known bugs with dbus and grub2 currently,
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623781 and
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1624532 : note these did
> not reach F29 'stable' so are not technically blockers  (adamw,
> 15:20:03)
>   * we have so far escalated one blocker to FESCo,
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1974  (adamw, 15:20:42)
>
> * Fedora 29 Change status  (adamw, 15:26:24)
>   *
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DbusBrokerAsTheDefaultDbusImplementation
> is definitely not 'code complete' - the update that attempted part
> of its implementation is the one that caused
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623781 (failed boots
> for everyone)  (adamw, 15:35:16)
>   * there are also known bugs related to
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnuTLS-TLS1.3 , at least
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1623471  (adamw,
> 15:53:21)
>
> * Test Day update  (adamw, 15:54:01)
>   * today (2018-09-04) is i18n Test Day, we then have Virtualization
> (2018-09-11), Silverblue (2018-09-20), Java (2018-09-26), Cloud
> (2018-10-01)  (adamw, 15:54:49)
>   * GNOME Test Day is waiting on the maintainer returning from vacation,
> DNF Test Day is waiting on DNF 3.4 release  (adamw, 15:55:15)
>
> * Open floor  (adamw, 15:55:40)
>
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Re: F21 emergency.target when root pw isn't set

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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 And then the most likely user who will fall into this
 trap is the Fedora Workstation user, who also has media that can't
 boot in rescue mode (i.e. anaconda rescue mode).

 Still, short term I think it's better if the user is required to set a
 root password. I think we have more users who end up getting dropped
 to emergency shell with a reference to rdsosreport than users exposing
 themselves to vulnerability by having a root password set (vs not
 set).

Where is the documentation for a *Workstation end user* on what to do
if they get unceremoniously dumped into that emergency shell? I'm not
talking geeky command prompt stuff or filing bugzilla reports here,
but explicit steps to get back into a productive use case with no data
loss, assuming your hardware isn't broken or some rogue process hasn't
nuked a filesystem?
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Re: F21 x86_64 getting SELinux alert on logrotate read of /var/cache/dnf

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
 I really need to get better at searching bugzilla...

The SELinux troubleshooter report bug button did that for me. ;-)

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Re: netinst not part of release?

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I don't think the netinst CD image has ever had a torrent download.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
 On 12/17/14 11:13, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 09:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 I just noticed that the Fedora-Server-netinst.iso appears not to be
 part of F21 release.  I could not find it listed here
 http://torrents.fedoraproject.org/.  I sometimes find that iso
 helpful as one can choose the Base Environment, Add-ons, as well as
 add language support.

 Was this ever meant to be in the final release?  If so, why was it
 eliminated?
 It is part of the release. It's on the downloads page and all the
 mirrors. I guess there isn't a torrent because it's too small to be
 worthwhile, either that or it's just an oversight.

 Ah, yes  It is on https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/   I didn't 
 think to look there, in spite of the name, because it has more options than 
 the Server-DVD.  It seems to be more inclusive than just server.

 FWIW, even though it is small, I think it would be nice to include it on the 
 torrent page since if you're going to download various images you probably 
 would want to use the same method to make your life easier.

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