Re: Fedora/Gnome3 : Display Problem on my hardware.

2014-12-12 Thread Madhurjya Roy
It's quite similar to that, just more severe! In my case, when I open
the 'activities' menu, there are square and triangular lines spread
all over and almost none of the icons render correctly.

Another thing worth pointing out is that applications are not affected
by it. Most of the applications I ran (Nautilus, GIMP, Gnome Terminal,
Application Settings) rendered correctly.

The problem mainly affects the panel on the top, the calendar view
that opens up from there (like the one in your picture) and the
'activities' menu.

I'm downloading the Fedora live image, once it is done, I'll boot up
and share some screenshots. I guess that'll provide a better idea of
it.

Madhurjya Roy

On 13/12/2014, Frederic Muller  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Does it look like something like this: http://snag.gy/AGPaq.jpg
>
> I've started having the problem on F20 after a xorg update about 3 weeks
> ago and it has stayed. I upgraded (new install though) to F21 to get the
> same result unfortunately.
>
> It's also a Radeon (HD 6770 though) card.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Fred
>
> On 12/12/2014 10:49 PM, Madhurjya Roy wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> My old  PC MoBo recently died and so, I built a  new PC with
>> the following hardware specification :
>>
>> * Processor : AMD A4-6300K 3.7 GHz Dual Core APU with integrated
>> Radeon HD 8370D GPU
>>
>> * MoBo : MSI A58M-E33
>>
>> * RAM : 4 GB Corsair Value RAM 1600 MHz.
>>
>> * HDD : 500 GB WD Caviar @ 7200 rpm
>>
>> * Monitor : 19 inch Samsung SyncMaster at 1400 X 900 pixels @ 60-75 Hz
>> refresh rate
>>
>> So, I went ahead and popped in the Fedora 21 Workstation Disc.
>> Anaconda worked well
>> and installed Fedora 21.
>>
>> But as soon as I restarted my PC and logged in I found the desktop
>> flickering! I moved the mouse pointer and it flickered even more
>> vigorously and when I pulled through the activities hot corner, I
>> could barely see the icons, which appeared like distorted squares.
>>
>> Somehow, I managed to open the terminal. All the text in the terminal
>> were clearly visible, I installed Xfce desktop and to my surprise it
>> worked fine, text and icon everything was clear and perfectly
>> usable. Next, I installed KDE and it worked as well. I really had trouble
>> understanding the wobbly widgety interface, though! So, I assumed the
>> problem is with Gnome 3.
>>
>> I reinstalled the complete Gnome desktop and alas, the problem
>> persisted! I have used Fedora 20 for quite some time on my
>> laptop, so, I booted a live image of Fedora 20, that I had had flashed
>> onto a pen drive and still there was the same problem.
>>
>> Frustrated, I gave up and installed Ubuntu, Unity worked well but
>> when I installed Gnome3, I was back where I was, running a completely
>> graphically distorted UI!
>>
>> I've since changed many distros (without Gnome as DE) and all of them
>> worked fine. Windows 8.1 worked fluidly as well! I am currently using
>> Ubuntu 14.10 (with Unity as DE). I found it quite close to Gnome3.
>>
>> However, I would still like to use Fedora and since, I'm using this as
>> a multimedia PC, so Gnome3 is still my preference.
>>
>> From my observations, it seems to be a Gnome 3 hardware incompatibility
>> issue.
>>
>> I've tried changing refreshing rate, resolution and colour depth and
>> nothing could solve the issue! Even switching to the proprietary AMD
>> drivers didn't work out.
>>
>> Should I file a bug report on BugZilla?
>>
>> If anyone's got some idea, please help!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Madhurjya Roy
>>
>
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Re: Fedora/Gnome3 : Display Problem on my hardware.

2014-12-12 Thread Madhurjya Roy
Thank you for the response!

As a high school student, I'm no expert in the department but
shouldn't it be actually a GNOME3 shell bug, considering the fact that
the same driver worked when used with other DEs?

And if indeed, it's a driver problem, then the problem should lie
within AMD's main codebase. That'd explain the fact that even the
proprietary drivers couldn't resolve the issue.

I'm also wondering if the problem is in anyway associated with some
AMD CPUs in general! One of my friends, also noticed some occasional
minor distortions on his Debian (GNOME) system running an AMD Athlon
x64 4600+ processor with an old nVidia nForce integrated GPU.

Cheers,
Madhurjya Roy

On 12/12/2014, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-12-12 at 12:10 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 09:19:22PM +0530, Madhurjya Roy wrote:
>> > Hey guys,
>> >
>>
>> I understand that Gnome-3 simply doesn't work well without 3D
>> video acceleration. i've not personally experienced that, so I don't
>> know if your symptoms are what actually occurs without 3D accel.
>>
>> Now, I know your AMD processor includes a Radeon video unit, so you
>> SHOULD be getting 3d accel.
>>
>> however, if you didn't install AMD/ATI's proprietary driver for it,
>> you're probably depending on the open source driver instead, and I
>> suppose it simply may not work very well with that particular chip.
>>
>> As I said, I have no direct experience, so I may be all wet here.
>
> Shell will run fine without 3D acceleration, it'll just be a bit slow
> and use some CPU time. It wouldn't do *this*, though.
>
> It's probably more a case of a bug in the radeon driver for the
> hardware in question which GNOME's rendering happens to hit, while the
> other desktops don't. I'd file the bug either against xorg-x11-drv-ati
> in RH Bugzilla or Product xorg, Component Driver/Radeon in
> bugs.freedesktop.org , including the stuff described in
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems .
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Fedora/Gnome3 : Display Problem on my hardware.

2014-12-12 Thread Madhurjya Roy
Hey guys,

My old  PC MoBo recently died and so, I built a  new PC with
the following hardware specification :

* Processor : AMD A4-6300K 3.7 GHz Dual Core APU with integrated
Radeon HD 8370D GPU

* MoBo : MSI A58M-E33

* RAM : 4 GB Corsair Value RAM 1600 MHz.

* HDD : 500 GB WD Caviar @ 7200 rpm

* Monitor : 19 inch Samsung SyncMaster at 1400 X 900 pixels @ 60-75 Hz
refresh rate

So, I went ahead and popped in the Fedora 21 Workstation Disc.
Anaconda worked well
and installed Fedora 21.

But as soon as I restarted my PC and logged in I found the desktop
flickering! I moved the mouse pointer and it flickered even more
vigorously and when I pulled through the activities hot corner, I
could barely see the icons, which appeared like distorted squares.

Somehow, I managed to open the terminal. All the text in the terminal
were clearly visible, I installed Xfce desktop and to my surprise it
worked fine, text and icon everything was clear and perfectly
usable. Next, I installed KDE and it worked as well. I really had trouble
understanding the wobbly widgety interface, though! So, I assumed the
problem is with Gnome 3.

I reinstalled the complete Gnome desktop and alas, the problem
persisted! I have used Fedora 20 for quite some time on my
laptop, so, I booted a live image of Fedora 20, that I had had flashed
onto a pen drive and still there was the same problem.

Frustrated, I gave up and installed Ubuntu, Unity worked well but
when I installed Gnome3, I was back where I was, running a completely
graphically distorted UI!

I've since changed many distros (without Gnome as DE) and all of them
worked fine. Windows 8.1 worked fluidly as well! I am currently using
Ubuntu 14.10 (with Unity as DE). I found it quite close to Gnome3.

However, I would still like to use Fedora and since, I'm using this as
a multimedia PC, so Gnome3 is still my preference.

From my observations, it seems to be a Gnome 3 hardware incompatibility issue.

I've tried changing refreshing rate, resolution and colour depth and
nothing could solve the issue! Even switching to the proprietary AMD
drivers didn't work out.

Should I file a bug report on BugZilla?

If anyone's got some idea, please help!

Thanks,
Madhurjya Roy
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