Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote: Maybe, you need to put /kernel instead of /boot/kernel? Could be, but I don't think so, since I need it when I enter the information manually into grub2 and also, the legacy grub needs /boot/. However, I will try, just to be sure. LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 Hope that helps! I had latarcyrheb-sun-16. That might be it? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/25/2011 12:40 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: snip set root=(hd0,7) linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet etc etc etc etc etc rd.=0 etc etc etc initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64.img ^ ^ delete-| (both of them) I will try it. It seems odd, however. Will grub search through the root partition until if finds the kernel and initramfs, or does it simply assume (correctly) that they are located in the /boot directory? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: As far as I know, everything is relative to /boot. No change from old grub. In the old grub, you had to explicitly state /boot. In the old grub.conf it even states: all kernel and initrd paths are relative to / That means everything is relative to root (/), not /boot! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Tom H wrote: In the old grub, you had to explicitly state /boot. In the old grub.conf it even states: all kernel and initrd paths are relative to / That means everything is relative to root (/), not /boot! Are you referring to root=/ or the grub root? I don't have a clue what the grub root is or what you mean by root=/, hence I cannot interpret the question. If you have a separate /boot partition, the kernel and initrd are relative to it. I never have a separate /boot (or /home) partition, as I have never managed to figure out a reason for it. It is just unnecessary complexity without benefit. I always have 3 versions of fedora installed (current, current-1 and current+1), so each has a root (/) partition that contains everything, the whole kit and 'kabootle'. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Joachim Backes wrote:
On 08/25/2011 04:36 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Joachim Backes wrote:
my grub.cfg (using chainloader) entry for F15 (after installing
grub2
in
F15 and installing then in F15 the grub2 bootloader to /dev/sda7):
menuentry 'Fedora 15' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu
--class os {
set root=(hd0,7)
chainloader +1
}
I never knew chainloader could be used for linux. I have seen it
for
windows and for ploppy disks, but I will give it a try.
Check it! I use this since some Fedora generations to run multiple
fedoras on one hd. No problems!
Sorry to say, but I got nowhere with that. Nothing happened. It is
definitely interesting in it's perfect simplicity and would be
preferred, if it worked, for that reason.
How are you supposed to tell grub2 to look into the /boot directory
for the kernel and initram?
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Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I have installed F16α and with it grub2 to the MBR of /dev/sda. I am experimenting happily with F16, but I am unable to add F15 to the grub2 boot menu. I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu, even though it is in grub.cfg. I figured out that no matter what you put into /etc/grub.d/40_custom, it will never show up in the grub2 menu, even though it does show up in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. Yes, I have made sure to run restorecon on 40_custom after editing and that the permissions remain the same as the other files. The solution: create a file called /boot/grub2/custom.cfg and put your custom menu items in that. This file is automatically read by grub2, thanks to /etc/grub.d/41_custom, which causes custom.cfg to be read. This works! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu {solved}
Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:21:37PM -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu, even though it is in grub.cfg. Interesting. I just tested, on a virtual machine, without an actual O/S, (just made up one) and it showed up on my grub menu. Is it possible you made a typo? Possible? Of course... but I checked it numerous times and it all works when I type it by hand at the grub prompt and it also works when I put it into custom.cfg (copy and paste). I have also written and rewritten it many times, trying all of the various suggestions here in this thread, etc. and variations and it never appears in the grub menu, not even in a defective state. All my entries simply do not show up at all. (Or accidentally deleted that line they say not to delete?) I definitely did NOT delete that line ;-) But no matter. Editing custom.cfg is actually preferable, since you don't need to change those scripts under /etc/grub.d and you don't have to run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. And these entries verily do show up in the menu. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
Scott Robbins wrote: Important note. Although disk number still begins at 0, partitions now begin at 1. So /dev/sda1 is now hd0,1. Thanks for the reminder :-) I was already aware of that, hence I set root to 0,7 (ie., sda7, or grub legacy hd0,6). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Adding Fedora15 to F16alpha grub2 menu
I have installed F16α and with it grub2 to the MBR of /dev/sda. I am experimenting happily with F16, but I am unable to add F15 to the grub2 boot menu. I have edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, but my F15 entry never shows up in the menu, even though it is in grub.cfg. When I start the computer and select the (c)ommand line in grub, I am able to enter: set root=(hd0,7) linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 root=/dev/sda7 ro quiet etc etc etc etc etc rd.=0 etc etc etc initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64.img and then type boot, I am able to boot F15 without problem. Entering the same into the grub.cfg file doesn't work. How can I get a F15 menu entry in grub.cfg? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: sshfs not working anymore {solved}
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: sshfs... no longer works. My router, after a couple of months of stable operation, mysteriously decided to assign different IP addresses to my computers. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
sshfs not working anymore
I last used sshfs successfully about 7-10 days ago. Since about 2-3 days, it no longer works. In updates-testing, we have had a new kernel and a new selinux policy, I believe. I have tried booting both computers with an old kernel. I have tried putting both computers into permissive mode Nothing has worked. What has changed? Why doesn't it work anymore? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
kernel-PAE-2.6.38.8-35 update problem
I just updated to the new (testing) kernel. When it was done, a message appeared that grubby was unable to find a suitable template. Thinking nothing of this, I rebooted the system, and instead of the usual graphical grub menu appearing, a black screen with a grub prompt appeared. I was forced to manually enter the root, kernel and initramfs. Fortunately, I know how to do this, but what I noticed was that the initramfs for the new kernel was missing, so I had to boot the previous kernel. The system booted but I got a lot of strange messages first. I presume these were systemd errors. At first it appeared that the system would not boot, due to the severity of the messages that appeared, but then it all progressed anyway. Once booted (old kernel), I examined grub.conf and saw that the entry for the new kernel was not there. I ran yum-complete-transaction, and there was one pending transaction that completed successfully in a split second, but this did not cause initramfs for the new kernel to be created, nor did it cause the missing grub.conf entry for the new kernel to appear. Then, I decided to install grub again, so I ran grub-install /dev/sda and I got three messages about /dev/root not existing and a fourth one (I forgot what it said). Then, I decided to install grub using the grub shell, and I was told that the stage1 and stage 2 were out of sync, or something like that (I cannot recall the exact message, but it failed). So, I downgraded grub and this time I was able to use the grub shell, but still not grub-install (same errors about /dev/root and the other one). Since the initramfs for the new kernel was not there, I uninstalled this kernel and reinstalled it. Again, grubby gave me the strange message about the missing template and grub.conf was not updated, but the initramfs was created. I manually entered the missing information into grub.conf. Then, I upgraded grub again. Now, the new kernel boots fine. What was going on here? Why did the initramfs not get created? Why is grub not updating grub.conf? Why were stage1 and stage 2 of grub not in sync (or whatever it was)? Why can I not install grub using grub- install (but I can using the grub shell)? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: kernel-PAE-2.6.38.8-35 update problem
Bruno Wolff III wrote: You might want to make a comment for the update at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.38.8-35.fc15?_csrf_ token=3671000d8fce8d1a92d1ea034a714356e84da806 I did see some odd behavior similar to yours on one machine, but had recently done some other stuff that might have impacted stuff in /boot in such a way as to cause problems, so I didn't report it. During the yum update it was noted that one of the scripts failed. The strange thing is that the same kernel version, but for x86_64 installed without a hitch. It was only the PAE.i686 one that gave me problems. I should also add that after the first initial bad install of that kernel-PAE, my entire graphical screen froze up and I could not use the keyboard to kill X or even to reisub. I was forced to hit the power switch, but not before I had waited a long time after the install, in case something was still running, but fortunately when the freeze occurred, all of the packages had already installed and had already cleaned, too, but my command line prompt had not yet returned. What kind of note should I make? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: kernel-PAE-2.6.38.8-35 update problem
Bruno Wolff III wrote: What kind of note should I make? A brief summary of what didn't work. If you want to be more elaborate, also file a bugg and then refer to the bug in the note. done -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3
Rob Healey wrote: I am trying to play some of my mp3 files, and rhythmbox and Amarok searches for the codec... Both of them say that they can't find anything... I have fedora-rawhide, rpmfusion-free-rawhide, and rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide enabled in yum... Can anyone tell me which file that I need to get and install so that I can play these files of mine? For Amarok, you need to install xine-lib-extras-freeworld from rpmfusion- free. For Rhythmbox (I don't use it), I believe you need all of the gstreamer- plugins from rpmfusion. I have never been a fan of Totem. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3
Christopher Svanefalk wrote: I would recommend you consider converting your MP3s to Ogg Unless you have different information than that I have read, this is not a good idea. Both mp3 and ogg are lossy formats, so you are beginning with a degraded file and applying yet another algorithm to it to degrade it even further. If you have access to the original CDs, on the other hand, then you can re-rip to ogg, of course. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
caribou
Caribou crashed after this morning's update. ABRT says: main.py:55__init__:Exception:AT-SPI 1 or 2 needs to be enabled. . My questions are: Where do I choose either 1 or 2 and what are they? I realize that I will not likely use caribou, as it is for gnome, but I still want to know what 1 and 2 are and how to enable them. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Gnome3: I did it!
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I will definitely be looking around quite a lot more. Already, I can say that Activities are much better thought out and implemented than the confusing and generally somewhat useless KDE variant. I just discovered that KDE Activity Search Launch is a lot like the Gnome3 implementation. Wow! I never really knew how that worked before! It's a nice alternative to the menu. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Gnome3: how to do it?
Adam Williamson wrote: What 'cruft' are you talking about? I just want pure gnome3, no old cruft. How do I get it? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Gnome3: I did it!
Wow! That is really nice!!! I will definitely be looking around quite a lot more. Already, I can say that Activities are much better thought out and implemented than the confusing and generally somewhat useless KDE variant. I am confused by the user account, since I logged in as me, but it says the account is administrator. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Fedora 15 - yum update on March 19th
Kjartan Maraas wrote: I fixed it here by reverting to the previous version of rsyslog. Thanks. So did I. This thread has broken up into 3 or 4 separate thread, so I commented there. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts
Adam Williamson wrote: A possible solution would be to have both updates and updates-testing repos for all fedoras, even the not yet released branched fedora. Erm. We already do exactly this I must have missed that. I just checked, and sure enough, fedora-updates does indeed exist for f15. When my system automatically metamorphosed from rawhide into f15, updates-testing was automatically enabled, while fedora-updates remained disabled. At that time (roughly at f15 alpha test candidate 1), I did try to enable the updates repo manually, but yum balked, claiming that there was no such repo. I had presumed that only updates-testing would be provided for f15 until the final release of f15. Thanks for the heads up! -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts
Adam Williamson wrote: updates is inactive for Branched releases, but that's because there's no need for it; as there's no frozen 'master' tree, packages simply go straight from updates-testing in the main 'release' repo (which I tend to refer to as dist-f15, although technically that's just a koji tag). So for final releases there's three repos: 'release' updates updates-testing 'release' is frozen and never changes; updates go to updates-testing first and updates when they're stable. For Branched releases there are only two active repos: 'release' updates-testing updates go into updates-testing first and then straight to 'release' when they're approved. There's no need for a third place. Thanks, I understand implicitly. However, what got me into trouble was the update that automatically changed my rawhide installation into f15 alpha and enabled updates-testing while doing so. Updates-testing should not have been enabled across the board and by default. Users should have had to make that choice explicitly. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts
Adam Williamson wrote: anyone running a pre-release should be running the candidate update packages and providing feedback on them. Well, I did. But I had a heart attack before I was able to do so. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: optimizing systemd, was: f15 no longer starts
Adam Williamson wrote: again, you know, pre-release. you really shouldn't be particularly surprised if it vomits on your shoes at any given point. :) :-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Gnome3: how to do it?
I have mostly a pretty clean kde4 f15 system. Naturally, I am intrigued by Gnome3. I know that I could groupinstall gnome, but I don't want any of that old gnome2 cruft. How can I get just gnome3? How can I add a gnome entry into kdm, so that I can select (without changing my kde default, of course: I'm seeing the sights at a foreign port, not jumping ship)? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f15 no longer starts
Genes MailLists wrote: I'm curious - how does a bad rsyslog package prevent the system from booting ? Should it ?? That feels too brittle to me ... I mean its only logging after all Ask the experts, not me. vt1 hung endlessly, with a black screen once the daemons had finally all timed out, and on vt2+, it was impossible to log in. After typing the password, the system would hang, and then a 60 second timeout would be noted, and hence, no login was possible. I was forced to alt-SysRq-re to kill the remaining daemons, I presume, and then I noticed on vt1 that graphical login was taking place, but on a ro system, hence config files could not be written to, hence each in turn generating an error. It was a total disaster and took nearly 30 minutes on an Intel Core 2 Duo processor. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F15 Alpha will not start after my last yum update
cornel panceac wrote: can you please tell us the bug number? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=689163 Sorry about my description. My initial impressions, when I had made the report, were incomplete. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Fedora 15 - yum update on March 19th
cornel panceac wrote: it started by first not rebooting (in a decent timeframe). i disabled akmods, md monitor and abrtd, which all failed, and i'll see what changes after the very long reboot occurs. How to fix it? I didn't wait 7 minutes and not getting X is not desirable for me. I switched back to F14 for the time being. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F15 Alpha will not start after my last yum update
Dennis Appelon Nielsen wrote: Hi All I just updated my Fedora 15 Alpha, after that It will no longer start the gnome-shell, the last thing I see is a error regarding the NetworkManager. Any ideas or suggestions to what I can do to get around this problem, I even tried to reinstall the system, but stupid as I can be I added the Test repo doing installation, and then it would not start again. Any help would be appreciated Be patient, it might take 30 minutes for your system to boot! All your partitions will likely be mounted as ro, so you will likely get all kinds of errors about the system not being able to read all of the configuration files. Click them away, open konsole and run for all of your mounted partitions: sudo mount -o remount,defaults / sudo mount -o remount,defaults /home etc. Then, sudo yum downgrade ryslog Reboot and all should be ok. Just don't upgrade to ryslog-5.7.9-1. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: f15 no longer starts
Vaclav Misek wrote: it was the rsyslog package. Thanks a million! yum downgrade rsyslog cured it. I am back using F15 again. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F15 Alpha will not start after my last yum update
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: sudo yum downgrade ryslog That's supposed to have an extra 's', like this: sudo yum downgrade rsyslog -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F15 Alpha will not start after my last yum update
Also, so that you can see that something is happening during those up to 30 minutes, type ESC once to switch plymouth graphical boot to show the boot output. Things will be very slow, but mine did eventually get to a graphical system (I also had to hit alt-SysRq-r or even alt-SysRq-re, I think, to jog things in order to get X to run). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F15 Alpha will not start after my last yum update
Ian Pilcher wrote: Has this problem been bugzilla'ed, BTW? Yes, I did a couple of hours ago. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Please explain: Your credentials have expired
I just updated my f15 system to yesterday's updates (08.iii.2011), those including kernel-2.6.38-0.rc8.git0.1.fc15 c. I rebooted the machine, as I wanted to run the new kernel. When kdm logged me in, I saw 2 keys with a red 'x' in the system tray. Hovering over it shows Your credentials have expired and when I clicked it, an empty window appeared, and after a long, long delay, it filled in with the following information: Couldn't acquire kerberos ticket: 'Cannot resolve network address for KDC in realm EXAMPLE.COM' What is this and why is it appearing? I don't know what kerberos is and I don't think I have used it in 12 years of linuxing. What do I do about it to fix it? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Please explain: Your credentials have expired
Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: krb5-auth-dialog I ran sudo rpm -e krb5-auth-dialog and it sure ran for a long time, apparently doing a whole lot of stuff, but there were no dependency complaints and when it finished, the systray icon was gone. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: rawhide boot problem....
When I boot, the transition from plymouth to KDM occurs immediately. There is no waiting. It is when I power off, that I see the could not write bytes: broken pipe lines. There must be at least a dozen, while the power off process appears to hang for a few seconds, before plymouth again kicks in to show the graphical animation during power off. Despite these messages, I am unable to detect any deficiencies. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F14 Beta - No transparent windows
john wendel wrote: I just used preupgrade to convert F13 KDE box to F14 beta. I'm using the RADEON video driver with an older ATI video card. Under F13, I had nice, transparent Konsole windows, but F14 the Konsole configuration says that transparency is not supported. Any clues will be appreciated. I had a problem with compositing. Take a look in systemsettings/desktop effects/advanced and put a check mark beside Disable functionality checks. In f13, this was off and it worked, and in f14, it has to be on to work (at least on my intel graphic system). Maybe for your computer, too. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Beta RC3 Available Now!
Michael Schwendt wrote: When booting this installation, I arrive at gdm's greeter without any firstboot procedure. No user account is available except root. Firstboot package is installed, but not added to any runlevel. What has gone wrong? I had this a coupla weeks ago. No sweat, just log in as root, open konsole or go to the command line and run firstboot and set everything up, then reboot, or perhaps just log out and in as the desired user. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What do consumers wishing to use systemd in F14 need to do?
Micha? Piotrowski wrote: I mean systemd and all boot scripts. Wonderful! This is definitely nice for consumers who have already made the transition to the future and do not care to regress. As for rawhide, it is definitely experimental, but to use it as a day-to-day system is not always practical. I have tried, once, and within a few short weeks I no longer had access to a graphical desktop, but I persevered with the updates, hoping that I would one day arrive at a working system. A month or so later I was no longer able to use yum, hence it was a dead system that could not be helped back onto its feet. Rawhide only seems usable from the time the alpha releases come out and for a short time after the full-fledged release, but the period in between can be very unstable, in my limited experience. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What do consumers wishing to use systemd in F14 need to do?
Matthew Miller wrote: What are you wanting to get out of having your system using systemd at this point? I had no problems with systemd and have already converted my scripts to using systemd. I don't want to regress all my work and have to do it all over and then repeat it all again in 6 months for F15. All was working smoothly for me without problems. I might give rawhide a try. I have never managed to successfully install it, despite about 10 years of trying. Not once did it ever boot or could I even get anaconda to install it without giving me an error at the critical moment or actually writing the files to the partition. Perhaps it will finally work now? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon
Tom Horsley wrote: You left out removing the fanatical devotion to releasing every six months :-). I've really never understood that one. Why is virtually everything subordinate to getting a release out at an artificial deadline? Why not just release when there appears to be enough things working to justify a new release? Excellent point. F13 may be a great release for developers, but for consumers it is a real dud. It doesn't offer anything new or different, just the promise or allure of some background stability issues resolved, perhaps. F14 without systemd will be about the same. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What do consumers wishing to use systemd in F14 need to do?
Matthew Miller wrote: You shouldn't need to install it from scratch, given where you're at. Just yum update from your F14 test system. You're sure this isn't going to f--k my perfectly running system (yes, I do have f13 installed on a different partition, but I would not be happy with that and would want at least f14, if rawhide screws up). So... I install the fedora-release-rawhide package from rawhide and then yum update, and I guess I would manually have to reinstall systemd-sysvinit, too, right? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon
Matthew Miller wrote: What was F14 with systemd going to offer that's new or different for consumers? I guess I can't truly answer that, except for the fact that it was promising and seeming to deliver faster booting. I turn off my computer when I go out and at night, since I have to pay for my electricity, so this is not just a big convenience thing, but also a financial one that I see reflected in my monthly electrical bill. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: What do consumers wishing to use systemd in F14 need to do?
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet That should get the migration process to systemd started and as with all wiki pages dont hesitate to add/enhance if needed. Thanks. Duly noted. I was migrated and will now likely have to regress for 6 months. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon
Vaclav Misek wrote: I had only minor problems with systemd and I'd like to keep it. I had no problems that come to mind and I'd like to keep it. Please explain explicitly how consumers can continue to use it, rather than regressing: grub kernel parameters, other required settings to maintain systemd, compatibility packages to install, etc. I use systemctl in some scripts to start/stop services and do not want to revert to service, chkconfig, etc. How do I keep my scripts without regressing them? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Unwise decision. Yes, disappointing decision, to be sure. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-gfeature=related You have a sense of humour :-)) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
I think there is a new systemd problem
When I run: sudo status rpcbind.service or sudo status acpid.service I always get an error message: status: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused I have: initscripts-9.20-1.fc14.x86_64 sysvinit-tools-2.87-5.dsf.fc14.x86_64 systemd-9-3.fc14.x86_64 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: I think there is a new systemd problem
Delete that message!!! I forgot the command, systemctl ;-) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
trying to update to initscripts-9.20-1.fc14
yum says: sysvinit-tools = 2.87-5 is needed by initscripts-9.20-1.fc14.x86_64 Where do I find sysvinit-tools. Checked koji and there is no such package as sysvinit-tools. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: trying to update to initscripts-9.20-1.fc14
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: yum says: sysvinit-tools = 2.87-5 is needed by initscripts-9.20-1.fc14.x86_64 Where do I find sysvinit-tools. Checked koji and there is no such package as sysvinit-tools. Never mind, I found it. It's listed under sysvinit and a search on koji, not even an RPMS search, finds it. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
systemd-9-3.fc14 slows boot to crawl
system start-up is very, very slow with systemd-9-3.fc14. Plymouth runs and seems to pulse more slowly than with previous versions of systemd, then hangs for about 30 seconds before the final majestic pulse, then the login screen appears. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: systemd-9-3.fc14 slows boot to crawl
The problem appears to be: (1) acpid.service and (2) tcsd.service. 1. System log for acpid.service shows: Sep 3 21:39:14 localhost acpid: Deprecated /proc/acpi/event was not found. Trying netlink and the input layer... Sep 3 21:39:14 localhost acpid: starting up with netlink and the input layer Sep 3 21:39:14 localhost acpid: skipping conf file /etc/acpi/events/.. Sep 3 21:39:14 localhost acpid: skipping incomplete file /etc/acpi/events/videoconf Sep 3 21:39:14 localhost acpid: skipping conf file /etc/acpi/events/. Sep 3 21:39:14 localhost acpid: 1 rule loaded Sep 3 21:39:14 localhost acpid: waiting for events: event logging is off Sep 3 21:40:14 localhost init[1]: acpid.service operation timed out. Terminating. Sep 3 21:40:14 localhost acpid: exiting Sep 3 21:40:14 localhost init[1]: Unit acpid.service entered failed state. This is the one that produced the long hang. I don't know what to do about this! I suspect acpid should always be running, non? 2. System log for tcsd.service shows: Sep 3 21:43:05 localhost TCSD TDDL[2610]: TrouSerS ERROR: Could not find a device to open! Sep 3 21:43:05 localhost init[1]: tcsd.service: control process exited, code=exited status=137 Sep 3 21:43:05 localhost init[1]: Unit tcsd.service entered failed state. I don't think I need trousers, but it was pulled in as a dependency when I installed ecryptfs-utils. I don't know why tcsd.service is getting started. How can I stop it? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
gnash-8.8
I tried the new gnash on both firefox and konqueror, but it did not work. It is supposed to display all youtube videos, but all I got was a black box and a message stating that an error occurred and I should try later (with konqueror, the black box appeared, but no message). I made sure to update boost before trying (should I have restarted the computer?). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
