Password security issues in GDM

2014-05-06 Thread Rodd Clarkson
I've filed bug number 1092274 (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1092274) about a week ago, and
so far there's been no response.

I have a lab full of fedora desktops and I have disabled the standard login
method so the users have to type their username (so that other usernames
are not exposed).

The problem is that GDM is asking for the username twice.

So what happens is that the user types their username, and the their
password (which is what you would expect next in a normal log in process)
but their password is typed in plain text on the screen for all to see.

This has to be a serious security issue (if not just bloody annoying to the
user). Obviously I'm asking if someone could look at this and address it.


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Re: Gnome desktop not always logging in properly.

2014-03-16 Thread Rodd Clarkson
And the link to the bug is
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1076981


On 17 March 2014 10:22, Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au wrote:

 Hi Guys,

 I've files a bug about gnome desktop logging in with squashed icons and
 being basically unusable.  Applications work, but you can't log out or
 restart and everything is squashed.  I'm seeing this in two environments
 (my laptop, and the schools computer lab).  Is anyone else having issues.


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Gnome desktop not always logging in properly.

2014-03-16 Thread Rodd Clarkson
Hi Guys,

I've files a bug about gnome desktop logging in with squashed icons and
being basically unusable.  Applications work, but you can't log out or
restart and everything is squashed.  I'm seeing this in two environments
(my laptop, and the schools computer lab).  Is anyone else having issues.


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Re: Gnome desktop not always logging in properly.

2014-03-16 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On 17 March 2014 12:21, Michal Jaegermann mic...@harddata.com wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:22:24AM +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
  Applications work, but you can't log out or
  restart and everything is squashed.  I'm seeing this in two environments
  (my laptop, and the schools computer lab).  Is anyone else having issues.

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1063093

 Not even acknowledged.  OTOH I do not see any squashing.  That may be
 another bug.  Maybe something is mixed up about your screens resolution?

Michal


I've got a few bugs that haven't been acknowledged recently (read a lot).

This bug isn't what I'm seeing.  I have however seen this problem in the
lab and have added to it and CCed myself.


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Re: Gnome desktop not always logging in properly.

2014-03-16 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On 17 March 2014 12:49, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:

 On Seg, 2014-03-17 at 10:23 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
  And the link to the bug
  is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1076981
 
 and this one ? , is also about logging :
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1073128


Yeah, this one doesn't seem to be my problem.  Log in always works, it's
just that the vast majority of the icons on the desktop don't appear to
work.


Rodd



 
  On 17 March 2014 10:22, Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au wrote:
  Hi Guys,
 
 
  I've files a bug about gnome desktop logging in with squashed
  icons and being basically unusable.  Applications work, but
  you can't log out or restart and everything is squashed.  I'm
  seeing this in two environments (my laptop, and the schools
  computer lab).  Is anyone else having issues.
 
 
 
 
  Rodd
 
 

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CUPS in F17 doesn't include BrowseRemoteProtocols=CUPS

2012-05-16 Thread Rodd Clarkson
Hi All

CUPS in F17 doesn't include BrowseRemoteProtocols=CUPS

Is this a bug or is this deliberate.

In the past my shared printers (using cups on another server) have
just appeared in Fedora, but I've had to manually add
BrowseRemoteProtocols=CUPS (which was missing) to get the printers to
appear.


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Re: CUPS in F17 doesn't include BrowseRemoteProtocols=CUPS

2012-05-16 Thread Rodd Clarkson
 CUPS in F17 doesn't include BrowseRemoteProtocols=CUPS

Also, the firewalld settings don't seem to allow this to work (I have
to stop the firewalld.service) to let me print.  I've tried using
firewall-config but all it does is stick a firewall icon in the bottom
panel and I can't seem to change anything.


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Installing fedora while running fedora?

2010-12-02 Thread Rodd Clarkson
Using a liveCD I can install fedora on my system while running the LiveCD.

Can you do the same thing just running vanilla Fedora?  This would be a
really useful feature, but I'm not seeing any information on how to do it.


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Re: Interactive white boards and Fedora Xorg setup

2010-11-30 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:01 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
 [faked-up reply, I'm not on the list, ajax pointed it out to me on the
 archives. please make sure you CC me for any replies]
 
  Unlike a mouse, these pointer devices move the mouse pointer to where
  you touch the screen.  For example, if the IWB is to the right of my
  laptop screen and I touch the right edge of the screen then the mouse
  pointer appears on the right side of my laptop screen, and not where
  I've touched the screen.
  
  The pointer device included with the IWB needs to be able to be
  configured to do two things:
 
  1.  Only work as a device for the IWB screen.  The mouse shouldn't be
  able to be moved off the screen, only around it.
  2.  Calibrate the pointer so that you can declare the
  top/bottom/left/right of the screen (as where the image falls on the
  pointer device isn't usually at the extremes of the device.)
 
  Is this possible?
 
 The 1.9 X server that's already in rawhide has an coordinate transformation
 matrix to restrict absolute devices to essentially any rectangle on the
 screen. The matrix is a property on each device and can be modified with the
 xinput commandline tool (no GUI tools yet).
 
 For example, I've got a 1440x900 and a 1920x1200 display. To restrict my
 tablet to the right (larger) screen:
 $ xinput --set-prop Wacom Intuos4 6x9 Coordinate Transformation Matrix
 0.58 0 0.42 0 1 0 0 0 1  
 
 The matrix thus looks like this:
 | 0.58 0 0.42 |
 | 01 0|
 | 00 1|
 
 giving us a scale into 58% of the screen range with an offset of 42%. Your
 numbers will likely vary but that should fix the issue for you.

Peter,

I've finally found a chance to take a look at this (now that I've got
f14 running on my laptop) and I need a little help understanding the
matrix.

In your case you have two screens with the same aspect ratio (16:10), so
I can see you your right hand screen is 0.58 of the total width and 0.42
across from the left hand side of the span.

However, I've got a situation where one of my screens (on my laptop) is
16:9 (1920x1080) and the other is 5:4 (1280x1024) and I'm not sure how
to set up the matrix for this.  Are you able to supply some extra
'clues'?  Can we assume the laptop screen will be on the left hand side
(as this is how it defaults in Fedora, and I should be able to figure
out how to adjust it if it's not)?

Also, where do I get the name for the pointer device?

I'm sorry to ask, but I've done some searching on google and couldn't
come up with the answers.

regards


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
2010/9/28 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com

 W dniu 27 września 2010 23:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
 mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
  2010/9/27 Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au:
  I've been having troubles getting 2.6.34.x kernels on f13 and 2.6.35.x
  kernels on f14 to resume from suspend.
 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897
 
  To try and resolve this I've been trying out other recent distros to see
 if
  they have similar kernels and whether I have the same problem resuming.
 
  Recent ubuntu is still only using 2.6.32 but openSUSE 11.3 has a 2.6.34
  kernel and I can suspend and resume from it using the live CD. How can I
  compare this kernel to ones in f13/f14 to see why it works in one and
 not in
  the other?
 
  You can download source package and check whether there are any
  patches that fixes suspend.

 I grepped the source and I have not found anything obvious.

 I've downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD which uses kernel 2.6.35 and
suspend and resume works fine in Ubuntu too.

What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?

I know it seems strange to some, but suspend and resume are one of the most
important features for me on my laptop.  I can (and have) put up with (a
lot) less than optimal video, no sound and even wireless network issues, but
without a functioning suspend and resume it's quite arduous having to wait
for a system to shutdown and reboot.  Each to their own I guess, but I'd
really like this to work and it appears that it does work on other distros
which makes me wonder what Fedora isn't doing right.


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Michal Jaegermann mic...@harddata.comwrote:


  What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?

 Did you look into /var/log/pm-suspend.log after a failed attempt?
 Some clues could be there.


I've been through this, but in case something was missed:

Initial commandline parameters:
Sun Oct 10 15:43:41 EST 2010: Running hooks for suspend.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend:Linux
moose.localdomain 2.6.35.6-39.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct
8 16:23:12 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Module  Size  Used by
rfcomm 67220  4
sco17180  2
bnep   15390  2
l2cap  51240  16 rfcomm,bnep
sunrpc201180  1
cpufreq_ondemand9278  4
acpi_cpufreq7329  1
freq_table  3955  2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
mperf   1481  1 acpi_cpufreq
ip6t_REJECT 4279  2
nf_conntrack_ipv6  18078  7
ip6table_filter 1687  1
ip6_tables 17481  1 ip6table_filter
ipv6  286249  40 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6
uinput  7368  0
snd_hda_codec_atihdmi 2727  1
snd_hda_codec_idt  55579  1
snd_hda_intel  24399  2
snd_hda_codec  86743  3
snd_hda_codec_atihdmi,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep   6392  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_seq53791  0
snd_seq_device  6191  1 snd_seq
snd_pcm80190  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer  19892  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
btusb  15482  2
bluetooth  89276  9 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap,btusb
lib80211_crypt_tkip 7987  0
uvcvideo   55489  0
videodev   41889  1 uvcvideo
wl   1961114  0
iTCO_wdt   11256  0
joydev  9737  0
tg3   110866  0
v4l1_compat12970  2 uvcvideo,videodev
snd63968  12
snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_p
cm,snd_timer
soundcore   6576  1 snd
v4l2_compat_ioctl32 9869  1 videodev
snd_page_alloc  7559  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
dell_laptop 6477  0
iTCO_vendor_support 2610  1 iTCO_wdt
lib802115095  2 lib80211_crypt_tkip,wl
dell_wmi3323  0
i2c_i801   11088  0
rfkill 17622  3 bluetooth,dell_laptop
dcdbas  8524  1 dell_laptop
microcode  18548  0
wmi 8138  1 dell_wmi
sdhci_pci   7569  0
firewire_ohci  21170  0
sdhci  18448  1 sdhci_pci
firewire_core  45817  1 firewire_ohci
mmc_core   64113  1 sdhci
crc_itu_t   1563  1 firewire_core
video  21637  0
output  2253  1 video
radeon635137  2
ttm55006  1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 25743  1 radeon
drm   177972  4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit5205  1 radeon
i2c_core   26900  6
videodev,i2c_i801,radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   3982524 4350483547476  0  70004 116480
-/+ buffers/cache: 2485643733960
Swap:  8389624  08389624
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56dhclient suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit suspend suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler suspend
suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99hd-apm-restore.hook suspend suspend:saving
level 96 for device sda
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend:kernel.acpi_video_flags
= 0
success.
Sun Oct 10 15:43:42 EST 2010: performing suspend
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote:

 On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 21:39 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:

  I've downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD which uses kernel 2.6.35 and
  suspend and resume works fine in Ubuntu too.
 
  What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this problem?

 One more triaging step I'd recommend is to try an upstream kernel of the
 same vintage. If that works, you know that some change Fedora adds is
 breaking it. If it doesn't work, you know that Ubuntu and SUSE both have
 a patch that Fedora doesn't which fixes it.

 (I suspect this may come down to graphics code; Fedora generally carries
 rather newer upstream versions of intel, nouveau and radeon than other
 distros, and these can introduce regressions).


I'm pretty confident that I've tried every f13 kernel that's been through
koji.  If I haven't, I've come close.

I've also tried all the 'released' f14 kernels along with a couple of others
(I'm still to try the two kernel suggestions above, I'm downloading Kyle's
now and will rebuild the kernel if needed).

Early in F13's move to 2.6.34 there was another bug that caused issues with
suspending the system.  This was resolved, which revealed problems with
resuming from a suspend (which seems to have worked properly).

So, it's hard to tell if this bug was in the first 2.6.34 kernel for f13 or
not.



  I know it seems strange to some, but suspend and resume are one of the
  most important features for me on my laptop.  I can (and have) put up
  with (a lot) less than optimal video, no sound and even wireless
  network issues, but without a functioning suspend and resume it's
  quite arduous having to wait for a system to shutdown and reboot.
  Each to their own I guess, but I'd really like this to work and it
  appears that it does work on other distros which makes me wonder what
  Fedora isn't doing right.

 It's not strange, suspend/resume is critical to most laptop users. It's
 just pretty hard to diagnose and fix.


I'm aware of this which is why I'm trying to supply as much information as
possible to the kernel developers to try and rectify this problem I have.
It may be that isn't not actually the kernel, but some other related part of
the software stack, but I wouldn't know where to start looking.


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Kyle McMartin k...@mcmartin.ca wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 01:09:18PM +0200, Micha? Piotrowski wrote:
  It might be a patch added by one of Fedora kernel developers. CC'ing
  fedora-kernel
 

 Honestly, there's nothing particularly relevant in F-14's kernel. Can
 you please try:
 http://kyle.fedorapeople.org/kernel/2.6.36-0.36.rc7.git3.fc15/x86_64/

 Which is a nodebug rawhide kernel, which is even closer to upstream than
 the F-14 2.6.35 is, and let us know if that's any more helpful?

 (I could swear someone was doing pre-built vanilla kernels, we should
 bring that back if not.)

 I've tried this kernel (sans perf) and I can suspend and resume again.
This is in f14.

Should I try this in f13?

Will this help isolate what's wrong with the 2.6.34 and 2.6.35 kernels for
my system?

I should ask, are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547?


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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Richard Ryniker ryni...@alum.mit.eduwrote:

 are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547?

 I have a Dell Studio XPS 1645 that runs F13: it suspends and resumes just
 fine.  Not your machine exactly, therefore this information may be more
 tantalizing than useful.


 Yeah, I think those 2 each units might be important.


Arghhh, that should have been a 1647 (not 1547 as I wrote).
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Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Michal Jaegermann mic...@harddata.comwrote:

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:39:46AM +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Michal Jaegermann mic...@harddata.com
 wrote:
   What difference in the Fedora kernels could be causing this
 problem?
 
  Did you look into /var/log/pm-suspend.log after a failed attempt?
  Some clues could be there.
 
 
  I've been through this, but in case something was missed:
 
  /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend
 suspend:kernel.acpi_video_flags = 0
  success.
  Sun Oct 10 15:43:42 EST 2010: performing suspend
 

 There _is_ something missing here.  After that last line I would
 expect to see a bunch of log entries from an attempt to resume.
 A resume part was either not really running at all or failed early
 enough before anything had a chance to write in a log.  This seems
 to be an information although I am not sure what to do with it.  Do
 you see the same if you try to hibernate/thaw?  I would also compare
 with pm-suspend.log from when you are running a rawhide kernel which
 you say does these things for you


I get exactly the same issue with hibernate/thaw too.

I've compared the log files and with the exception of a couple of modules
being absent (lib80211_crypt_tkip, wl[1], lib80211) and a couple of modules
being present (fuse, shpchp, intel_ips) there isn't a lot of difference
except that the log file above is 'missing' something.  The missing bit is
the bit where it resumes properly ;-]


Rodd

[1] I know that wl is a proprietary driver, but I can assure you that I have
tested extensively with it not loaded (and not even loaded at boot up).  I'm
aware that this module taints the kernel, but I've got it installed on the
kernel that works and it's not causing problems.  I'm happy to supply proof
of this bug without wl installed.

It should read like this:

Wed Oct 13 11:15:21 EST 2010: Awake.
Wed Oct 13 11:15:21 EST 2010: Running hooks for resume
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/99hd-apm-restore.hook resume suspend:restoring
level 96 for device sda

/dev/sda:
 setting Advanced Power Management level to 0x60 (96)
 APM_level= 96
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit resume suspend:method return
sender=:1.43 - dest=:1.90 reply_serial=2
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56dhclient resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd resume suspend:Stopping atd: [  OK  ]
Starting atd: [  OK  ] [  OK  ]
success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub resume suspend:not applicable.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave resume suspend:success.
/usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging resume suspend:success.
Wed Oct 13 11:15:21 EST 2010: Finished.
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Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-23 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au wrote:



 I've already tried this kernel and doesn't fix things for me.

 I'm now having (what I suspect are) the same suspend issues in both f13 and
 f14.

 It's being tracked here:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897

 I've made a couple of suggestions based on research using google for bugs
 that look similar to mine, and I'm awaiting some feedback from the kernel
 guys.


I've been trying kernels from other distros and while ubuntu is still using
2.6.32, opensuse 11.3 is using 2.6.34 and this kernel works for me with
regard to suspend and resume.

How can I compare this kernel with the kernels in fedora13 to see what's
different?  Or is this to big a job?


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Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-08 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Jan Wildeboer jwild...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 09/07/2010 02:45 PM, drago01 wrote:

  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=193772
 
  This one addresses some suspend issues so it is worth testing.

 Bingo! Suspend/resume now works again. (Still have to do a service
 NetworkManager restart after resume some times, minor to me)

 I've already tried this kernel and doesn't fix things for me.

I'm now having (what I suspect are) the same suspend issues in both f13 and
f14.

It's being tracked here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628897

I've made a couple of suggestions based on research using google for bugs
that look similar to mine, and I'm awaiting some feedback from the kernel
guys.


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Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-02 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:55 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com
pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au wrote:

  My system suspends and resumes fine on f13 with the 2.6.33 kernels, so it
  isn't unreasonable to expect this functionality to continue on a stable
  release.

 On the other hand the 2.6.34 kernel has made my F-13 laptop 100% more
 usable than the entire release. I've been having massive issues and
 I've been actually meaning to reinstall F-12 but haven't actually had
 the time to do so. It got pushed from updates-testing to updates very
 quickly because a lot of people tested it before it even hit
 updates-testing and hence got the karma required to go through to
 updates very quickly.

 Ah, and here I guess lies the problem.  The email from the fedora engineers
(some weeks ago) quite clearly stated not to give this kernel karma points
so that it didn't get pushed until they were sure it wouldn't cause issues,
so I haven't been giving it negative karma as a result.

I'm really not happy with this entire process.  I've also received an email
saying that my 99 votes have been removed because someone at fedora decided
to change the rules regarding my bug and voting and that my votes don't
count any more.  What a way to run an election.

Anyhow, what a waste of time all around.  I spend a couple of painful hours
booting and rebooting my system to try and isolate this bug and the
developers couldn't take two minutes to mention that they needed to post the
kernel and that they would address my bug some time soon.

R.
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Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-02 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.dewrote:


 Although I think, this is the wrong way, putting
 exclude=kernel-*
 in your /etc/yum.conf will exclude the kernel from updating.


Thanks Matthias,

I don't like excluding kernels either, but I don't need to be adding
--exclude=kernel\* to each run of yum update until this is resolved, and
since there's an open bug for this, I'll know when it's resolved because I'm
following the bug.  At this time I can allow the new kernels again.
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Re: Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2010-08-20 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Rodd Clarkson r...@clarkson.id.au wrote:

 Out put from recent yum upgrade

 snip

Oh, and after doing the above yum update --skip-broken

 $ sudo yum update
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Adding en_AU to language list
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package evince.x86_64 0:2.31.90-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package evince-libs.x86_64 0:2.31.90-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package evince-nautilus.x86_64 0:2.31.90-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package gimp.x86_64 2:2.6.10-4.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package gimp-help-browser.x86_64 2:2.6.10-4.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package gimp-libs.x86_64 2:2.6.10-4.fc14 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libpoppler.so.6()(64bit) for package:
1:openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.3.0-4.3.fc14.x86_64
--- Package poppler.x86_64 0:0.14.2-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package poppler-glib.x86_64 0:0.14.2-1.fc14 set to be updated
--- Package poppler-utils.x86_64 0:0.14.2-1.fc14 set to be updated
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: 1:openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.3.0-4.3.fc14.x86_64
(@updates-testing)
   Requires: libpoppler.so.6()(64bit)
   Removing: poppler-0.14.1-1.fc14.x86_64
(@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201008070243.x86_64/14-Alpha)
   libpoppler.so.6()(64bit)
   Updated By: poppler-0.14.2-1.fc14.x86_64 (updates-testing)
   Not found
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
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Can't read last ~5% of a remote file

2010-08-18 Thread Rodd Clarkson
I'm getting the same symptoms as a bug that was closed during f11 (and f12)
in f13.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516165

Any chance that this bug has re-emerged?


R.
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Re: Musicians' Guide Draft Now Posted

2010-08-03 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Christopher Antila crant...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am pleased to let you know that the first official draft of the
 Musicians' Guide is now available under the Draft Documentation
 category on the Fedora Documentation website,
 http://docs.fedoraproject.org

 I'm not seeing this yet.  I've looked under Draft Documentation but I'm not
seeing Musicians Guide as an option.  Am I looking in the wrong place, do
I need some special permissions, or is it just not there?


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Re: Interactive white boards and Fedora Xorg setup

2010-07-06 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:01 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
 [faked-up reply, I'm not on the list, ajax pointed it out to me on the
 archives. please make sure you CC me for any replies]

Thanks for the reply, and it's nice to know that ajax noticed this (as
it appears ajax has much to do with Xorg on fedora (and I'm guessing
elsewhere)).

  Unlike a mouse, these pointer devices move the mouse pointer to where
  you touch the screen.  For example, if the IWB is to the right of my
  laptop screen and I touch the right edge of the screen then the mouse
  pointer appears on the right side of my laptop screen, and not where
  I've touched the screen.
  
  The pointer device included with the IWB needs to be able to be
  configured to do two things:
 
  1.  Only work as a device for the IWB screen.  The mouse shouldn't be
  able to be moved off the screen, only around it.
  2.  Calibrate the pointer so that you can declare the
  top/bottom/left/right of the screen (as where the image falls on the
  pointer device isn't usually at the extremes of the device.)
 
  Is this possible?
 
 The 1.9 X server that's already in rawhide has an coordinate transformation
 matrix to restrict absolute devices to essentially any rectangle on the
 screen. The matrix is a property on each device and can be modified with the
 xinput commandline tool (no GUI tools yet).
 
 For example, I've got a 1440x900 and a 1920x1200 display. To restrict my
 tablet to the right (larger) screen:
 $ xinput --set-prop Wacom Intuos4 6x9 Coordinate Transformation Matrix
 0.58 0 0.42 0 1 0 0 0 1  
 
 The matrix thus looks like this:
 | 0.58 0 0.42 |
 | 01 0|
 | 00 1|
 
 giving us a scale into 58% of the screen range with an offset of 42%. Your
 numbers will likely vary but that should fix the issue for you.

This looks like a great start, but I'm guessing it only works in 1.9 at
this stage. Will this also work in 1.8?

Obviously a nice GUI tool for this where you can specify the pointer and
the region visually would be the finishing touches (as this will vary
for me from IWB to IWB and I'm a Relief Teacher that sees a lot of
different IWBs.)   Presumably this would be easy enough to implement in
the Monitor Preferences (System  Preferences  Monitor) by including
options to limit pointer devices to a particular display.

The other bit of the problem is defining the mouse region for the
pointer device.  Unlike your wacom device (and similar devices) where
the top left point of the device is quite easier to assume as the top
left corner of the display, IWBs aren't so simple.

IWBs have the image projected onto the screen which is also the pointer
device, but it's very unlikely that the top left corner of the projected
image is also at the same place as the top left corner of the screen.
Since the mouse pointer moves to where you place you finger on the
screen, it's important that this maps precisely so you can click buttons
and drag items without a level of hit and miss (and incorrectly buttons
pressed).  I've even seen IWBs where the image isn't even square on the
IWB, and I guess this needs to be addressed too.

Any suggestions for this?


Rodd



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Interactive white boards and Fedora Xorg setup

2010-07-03 Thread Rodd Clarkson
Hi,

I regularly use (a variety of) interactive white boards and the single
biggest frustration is getting the pointer device working so it's
actually useable.

Let me give you an example.

I plug and IWB into my laptop and Fedora configures is as an extension
to my desktop.  This is great because I can drag what I want to appear
on the IWB and not have to reveal my entire desktop.

The pointer device in the IWB works and I can use it as a mouse, but
it's rendered unusable because the mouse acts across the entire desktop
(both my laptop screen and the IWB).

Unlike a mouse, these pointer devices move the mouse pointer to where
you touch the screen.  For example, if the IWB is to the right of my
laptop screen and I touch the right edge of the screen then the mouse
pointer appears on the right side of my laptop screen, and not where
I've touched the screen.

The pointer device included with the IWB needs to be able to be
configured to do two things:

1.  Only work as a device for the IWB screen.  The mouse shouldn't be
able to be moved off the screen, only around it.
2.  Calibrate the pointer so that you can declare the
top/bottom/left/right of the screen (as where the image falls on the
pointer device isn't usually at the extremes of the device.)

Is this possible?

Does this make sense?

Is this something that's included in f13 (if it is I can't find it) or
could it be included as a part of f14.  As far as I'm concerned this is
a huge feature as I'm constantly finding IWB pointer devices are useless
unless I mirror (and mirroring reveals my desktop and usually squashes
the icons as the laptop screen has to be sized down and then I have to
move the icons back).


Rodd




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