Re: Proposal: retire proventesters and bugzappers onboarding processes harder, create new QA onboarding process
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Hey folks! Here's another thing that's been on my todo list for a while. So we still get proventester and bugzapper membership requests regularly, and poor old dr johnson and to a small degree myself laboriously go around telling people 'hi, thanks for joining, but that cake was a lie! please come eat this other delicious cake instead'. It's kinda silly. Every time I see a membership request I am reminded that I kind of pushed dr johnson into taking on that responsibility, he didn't volunteer. I belatedly apologize to brother johnson for that. I can draft up the specific changes later, but does this broad outline sound reasonable to everyone? Sounds reasonable to me +1 Speaking only in regard to the bugzappers, a change like this has been long overdue. People join the bugzappers without mentor-ship or guidance (beyond the wiki info). That is un-fair to the people that join as well as the project itself. Any concerns or alternative proposals? My only concern would be people losing their voting privileges, as long as that doesn't happen I am on board. tk009 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Proposal: retire proventesters and bugzappers onboarding processes harder, create new QA onboarding process
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote: I'm not sure it's wise to increase privileges immediately after the welcome letter (was it meant this way?). The bugzappers have been doing it that way since I joined. It was explained to me when I joined that anything done incorrectly in bugzilla can be easily be corrected. I believe that still holds true today. I would probably give people option to request higher privileges after a short time, a month or so. Before making the change, some existing QA person would have a look at the newcomer's work, to ensure he doesn't do some crucial mistakes. The privileges would be removed if the person is inactive for a long time (e.g. a year or two). This would create administrative overhead that someone or more would have to be responsible for keeping up with. Also you'd need to define who this person or persons are (those assigned the role of sponsors within the QA group?), and of course they would have to be willing to do those tasks. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Housekeeping
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/16/2011 11:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: This is kind of half a memo-to-self, but of course, the more people who help out, the merrier :) So we have various housekeeping tasks that come under the Bugzappers umbrella, and may have been neglected lately: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora15 since we haven't run a Bugzappers meeting for a while we should check up on these and make sure they're happening; it may make sense to pull them into the QA process instead of Bugzappers, or just run a BZ meeting to look after them. If anyone is already working on this, or has a good plan, do speak up! Otherwise I'll look at doing something about it. A bunch of this stuff falls under my PM hat - I don't think a separate housekeeping meeting would be a bad idea, or having it be pulled into the schedule in spots other than just mine. Not that I plan on testing the raptor/busproofing thing anytime soon. But a number of things that I've looked at have wound up being already done or volunteered for by other folks, etc. so it makes the whole ownership / checking up on things rather murky. If you want to pick a time/place, that works. or we can sort of impromptu it at some point. -robyn It looks like housekeeping has not been done or is incomplete for this development cycle. In the past I've worked with poelcat to do the housekeeping, so I am familiar with the procedures. I'd be happy to help again if needed. Robyn, do you need help with the housekeeping stuff, or have you already ready sorted it out? Edward (tk009) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Housekeeping
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 12:22 -0400, TK009 wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/16/2011 11:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: This is kind of half a memo-to-self, but of course, the more people who help out, the merrier :) So we have various housekeeping tasks that come under the Bugzappers umbrella, and may have been neglected lately: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora15 since we haven't run a Bugzappers meeting for a while we should check up on these and make sure they're happening; it may make sense to pull them into the QA process instead of Bugzappers, or just run a BZ meeting to look after them. If anyone is already working on this, or has a good plan, do speak up! Otherwise I'll look at doing something about it. A bunch of this stuff falls under my PM hat - I don't think a separate housekeeping meeting would be a bad idea, or having it be pulled into the schedule in spots other than just mine. Not that I plan on testing the raptor/busproofing thing anytime soon. But a number of things that I've looked at have wound up being already done or volunteered for by other folks, etc. so it makes the whole ownership / checking up on things rather murky. If you want to pick a time/place, that works. or we can sort of impromptu it at some point. -robyn It looks like housekeeping has not been done or is incomplete for this development cycle. In the past I've worked with poelcat to do the housekeeping, so I am familiar with the procedures. I'd be happy to help again if needed. Robyn, do you need help with the housekeeping stuff, or have you already ready sorted it out? I've created the F16 tracker bugs, I don't know what else remains un-done. We didn't get around to the above-discussed meeting yet, but I'd still like to do it if we can find the time... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test two birds with one stone maybe, I can do a call for bugzapper meeting topics (send tomorrow am), and the meeting agenda on monday and we can do it at the meeting if that would work for you? Robyn would that work you? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Is SoapUI not in Fedora Repos ?
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Saurabh Sharma luckysharm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Saurabh Sharma luckysharm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello People, I have to work on a project that makes use of webservices and hence i needed SoapUI, but YUM fails to search for any package named 'soupui'. Is it not bundled in Fedora repos. I have fedora and rpmfusion configured. Or is there any alternative that can be used. Please help. -- Thanks Saurabh The soapUI is available as an open source software and is very good software for testing of web-services, but still i don't see why its bit there in fedora. Can some one point me out to a place where i can get to know the guidelines for adding/requesting the package to the fedora repos. Thanks Saurabh Sharma -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines That will get you started. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Request for Fedora QA Group
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:17 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 15:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 15:41:27 -0400, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 16:35 -0300, iarly selbir wrote: AFAIK, this group isn't used by the real QA members, instead we have both triagers, fedorabugs and proventesters for testers purposes. That's correct. Iarly lists the actively managed Fedora QA FAS groups. Any other groups are ignored / not used. Is there some reason to keep that group? I can't think of one right now, other than the possibility that at some point we may have a need for process/access the is restricted to a subset of QA members. But as it stands now, there aren't any secret QA process or tools that require special group membership. Perhaps it would make sense to change the group to be invite only, and update the group description to note this is not an actively managed group? Thanks, James -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test +1 as someone how has applied for that group in the past only to find out no riding lessons, no pony. tk009 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Questions about Fusion Linux
I got an email this morning from the Fusion Linux group. In it, the group lead suggested this to one of his users - Fusion 14 betais based on Fedora 14 which isn't released yet so there could be number of bugs that haven't been fixed yet. I suggest you report the bug via fedora bugtracker and just say that you are using Fedora 14. Do we now support Fusion Linux as well? Is it correct for them to use bugzilla? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Fedora Bugzappers Meeting 2010-10-12 @ 1500 UTC (today)
# Fedora Triage Team Meeting # Date: 2010-10-12 # Time: 15:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net There is nothing on the meeting agenda page [1], however, we have not had a meeting in a few weeks so we will be holding one today. If you have a topic or anything specific you would like to address please do attend the meeting and we can discuss. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to attend. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers:meeting-agenda-list Edward (irc: tk009) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Boot time graphics
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 10:20 -0400, TK009 wrote: Until recently I would see it only rarely being a freedom hater and using the bad nvidia drivers. A. Useless rant / flame. The problem has -nothing- to do with Fedora. B. You can enable it (nvidia binary drivers) by adding vga=xxx to your kernel command line. C. ... If nVidia will -choose- to add KMS support to their binary drivers, vga=xxx will no longer be required. - Gilboa -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test I think you are lost. Yes I knew that and don't care enough to enable it. Just pointing out why I don't see it and therefore never paid it much attention. It was neither a flame or a rant. Calling you asshat would be a flame or a rant. See the difference? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Introduction
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Andy Lawrence dr.die...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Long time lurker, Fedora user since Core 1 or 2, can't remember for sure! Proud to say I have no Windows PCs on my property, nor will I allow any! My entire Family uses Fedora including my 6 and 8 year old, and have been for years. Most of my experience is as a 'power user'. I can custom install, build kernels, provide BTs with gdb, setup httpd/NFS/samba etc. My C programming is limited but I'm quite good with gambas (ex VB Software Engineer). I don't have any experience as a package maintainer, but I'd love to learn. By day I'm a Controls Engineer for Duke Energy in Indiana. My hobbies include my family, diesel engines, Fedora, computers etc. Please feel free to contact me via any method below. Thanks Andy Email/GTalk: dr.die...@gmail.com Fedora Project Username: drdiesel WA9SDJ: Usually Parked on K9IAQ (146.685Mhz) -- projecthuh.com All of my bits are free, are yours? Fedoraproject.org -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test Hello Andy, welcome to the group =). Give me about an hour (it is dinner time) and I will sponsor your membership and send you some getting started reading. You can find a number of other team members on irc in #fedora-bugzappers. Stop in and say hi if you get a chance. Thank you for helping out Edward Kirk (tk009) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Not Authorized (can't mount USB flash drive as normal user)
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Steven I Usdansky usdans...@rocketmail.com wrote: LXDE spin alpha RC4 x86_64. Boot into runlevel 3 as normal user Run startx to start an LXDE session Plug in USB flash drive - file manager appears Click on flash drive's entry to mount Error dialog appears with msg: Not Authorized How to fix? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test In the file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf Section !-- Only allow users at the local console to manipulate devices -- policy at_console=true I expect to see this for UBS function. allow send_destination=org.freedesktop.Hal send_interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage/ allow send_destination=org.freedesktop.Hal send_interface=org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.Removable/ I an not sure if one or the other or both are needed. It is just what I see on my gnome box atm. That is the first place I look when I see that message. I hope this helps. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New BugZapper Introduction
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Chris Brereton cbreret...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. My name is Chris Brereton. I am 18 years old and live in Phoenix, AZ. I've used Fedora on and off over the years so I have some knowledge of it and its capabilities. I have some Linux experience as well (Ubuntu). I'm good at debugging using various tools. Also, I would like to have some help getting started with triaging if possible. My contact information can be found below. Thanks and I hope to be able to contribute somehow. IRC: Zom3ie email: cbreret...@gmail.com AIM: jmarket15 Skype: john.market -- -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test Hello Chris, welcome. I'll be sending you some information directly to help you get started. For direct help, irc and/or here on the mailing list will give you the best mileage. Look for an email from me with more info. TK009 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: New BugZapper Introduction
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:52:07 -0400 Terry Bonito tbonit...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, Im Terry and im interested in working to help improve Fedora Linux. Im 21 and i've been using Fedora for over 5 years. I use Fedora for everything. I mostly use it for media related thing such as listening to music, watching movies, etc. I would like to see improvements in media related programs, functionality, compatibilty with devices for streaming/downloading music, better webcam support etc. Mainly I want to give back to the community and help keep Fedora bug free or as close to bug free as possible. You may email me at this address any time. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 Hello Terry, welcome =). I am sending you some information directly to help you get started. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or would like some help. There is a bugzapper meeting today (50 minutes from now), if you would like and are able to attend we can welcome you there and you can meet some of the other team members. Thanks for helping out Edward Kirk (irc: tk009) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
